Re: Need some support right now.

July 12, 2010

So sorry....hugs to you.Is it possible to lower the meds to what it was previously?Is it possible to go and observe? These are the 2 avenues I would pursue.Robyn-- Sent from my Palm PreOn Jul 12, 2010 23:12, mimasdprofile <callis4773@...> wrote:

had another bad day at camp today. He had to be restrained on the floor because he was whacking at other kids. I don't know what is going on. I'm thinking maybe he needs closer supervision to prevent these misunderstandings because I'm sure that's what they are. doesn't usually freak out so this is weird and I'm not there to see what is happening. I can almost always head it off before it turns into a meltdown. has been on his higher dose of lexapro for a couple of days but I'm assuming that might take a while to get to a steady level in his blood.

I've been so sad all day. I've just been lying around and moping. It's just so heartbreaking and it terrifies me now because is 13 and very tall and big and it's so much easier for him to get into BIG trouble now. I worry I won't be able to prevent prison experiences for much longer. I mean that's probably just me catastrophizing but I feel like I need to be ready for anything. Meanwhile my husband is mainly worried about whether or not will take Algebra this year since he didn't do all that well in pre-algebra. I think he should just take pre-al again because a reduction in stress levels can really help.

Someone please respond. I just need some friendly, understanding people around me right now, even if it's on the internet and not in person.

Thanks,

Miriam

July 12, 2010

you are in the very same situation that my husband and i are all i can say is well i dont know what to say all i can think of is a group home in my grandsons future or mental institution and husband seem to care about his education i dont see any use in an education in a mental intitution or jail

From: mimasdprofile <callis4773@...> Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 9:08:08 PMSubject: ( ) Need some support right now.

had another bad day at camp today. He had to be restrained on the floor because he was whacking at other kids. I don't know what is going on. I'm thinking maybe he needs closer supervision to prevent these misunderstandings because I'm sure that's what they are. doesn't usually freak out so this is weird and I'm not there to see what is happening. I can almost always head it off before it turns into a meltdown. has been on his higher dose of lexapro for a couple of days but I'm assuming that might take a while to get to a steady level in his blood.I've been so sad all day. I've just been lying around and moping. It's just so heartbreaking and it terrifies me now because is 13 and very tall and big and it's so much easier for him to get into BIG trouble now. I worry I won't be able to prevent prison experiences for much longer. I mean that's probably just me catastrophizing but I feel like I need to be ready for anything.

Meanwhile my husband is mainly worried about whether or not will take Algebra this year since he didn't do all that well in pre-algebra. I think he should just take pre-al again because a reduction in stress levels can really help.Someone please respond. I just need some friendly, understanding people around me right now, even if it's on the internet and not in person.Thanks,Miriam

July 12, 2010

I hope we don't end up feeling the need for an institution. He is usually so

sweet and has a lot of good in him but he's had a couple of very bad days

recently. UGH.

>

> you are in the very same situation that my husband and i are all i can say is

> well i dont know what to say all i can think of is a group home in my

grandsons

> future or mental institution and husband seem to care about his education i

dont

> see any use in an education in a mental intitution or jail

>

> ________________________________

> From: mimasdprofile <callis4773@...>

>

> Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 9:08:08 PM

> Subject: ( ) Need some support right now.

>

> Â

> had another bad day at camp today. He had to be restrained on the floor

> because he was whacking at other kids. I don't know what is going on. I'm

> thinking maybe he needs closer supervision to prevent these misunderstandings

> because I'm sure that's what they are. doesn't usually freak out so this

is

> weird and I'm not there to see what is happening. I can almost always head it

> off before it turns into a meltdown. has been on his higher dose of

lexapro

> for a couple of days but I'm assuming that might take a while to get to a

steady

> level in his blood.

>

> I've been so sad all day. I've just been lying around and moping. It's just so

> heartbreaking and it terrifies me now because is 13 and very tall and big

> and it's so much easier for him to get into BIG trouble now. I worry I won't

be

> able to prevent prison experiences for much longer. I mean that's probably

just

> me catastrophizing but I feel like I need to be ready for anything. Meanwhile

my

> husband is mainly worried about whether or not will take Algebra this

year

> since he didn't do all that well in pre-algebra. I think he should just take

> pre-al again because a reduction in stress levels can really help.

>

> Someone please respond. I just need some friendly, understanding people around

> me right now, even if it's on the internet and not in person.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Miriam

>

July 13, 2010

I'm so sorry your son is having a hard time at camp. I hope you can work with the counselors to figure out what is going on and get to calm down. I know it is so stressful to worry all the time like this. Don't think about the long term possibilities, it doesn't help right now. Just get through today and keep doing what you are doing to help your son. You are a great mom and I know you and your son will be OK.SuzanneSent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: "mimasdprofile" <callis4773@...>Sender: Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 01:08:08 -0000< >Reply Subject: ( ) Need some support right now. had another bad day at camp today. He had to be restrained on the floor because he was whacking at other kids. I don't know what is going on. I'm thinking maybe he needs closer supervision to prevent these misunderstandings because I'm sure that's what they are. doesn't usually freak out so this is weird and I'm not there to see what is happening. I can almost always head it off before it turns into a meltdown. has been on his higher dose of lexapro for a couple of days but I'm assuming that might take a while to get to a steady level in his blood.I've been so sad all day. I've just been lying around and moping. It's just so heartbreaking and it terrifies me now because is 13 and very tall and big and it's so much easier for him to get into BIG trouble now. I worry I won't be able to prevent prison experiences for much longer. I mean that's probably just me catastrophizing but I feel like I need to be ready for anything. Meanwhile my husband is mainly worried about whether or not will take Algebra this year since he didn't do all that well in pre-algebra. I think he should just take pre-al again because a reduction in stress levels can really help.Someone please respond. I just need some friendly, understanding people around me right now, even if it's on the internet and not in person.Thanks,Miriam

July 13, 2010

Miriam, my dear, you are so NOT alone. You're going through some tough stuff that we've all been through. It can feel so bad, I know this. Don't stay, " feeling bad " too long. It will suck the life out of you.

I think while you definitely need some support to stay strong. I wonder if you are asking the right questions to the camp? Is this camp through the school? Did you give your consent for restraints through an iep? Who is trained to restrain? Do you think the ratio is too high for your son? My dumb guess might be that the counsellor wasn't watching closely enough to see that your son was upset and there was no intervention for the trigger or the unsolved problem and your son got overwhelmed and reacted. Could you stay one day to observe while helping? I would have a discussion with the camp supervisor about what went wrong if you haven't already. I would carefully watch their level of concern to correct what went wrong to avoid a recurrences. Stay strong, my friend. Here are some inspirational quotes I dug up for you:

" God did not give us the spirit of fear. Fear does not come from God. God gives us the spirit of power and love and a sound mind. "

(But, if you're not religious,)

" When you get into a tight place and everything goes against you, till it seems as though you could not hold on a minute longer, never give up then, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn. " Harriet Beecher Stowe

" Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. " ~ F Kennedy

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:08 PM, mimasdprofile <callis4773@...> wrote:

had another bad day at camp today. He had to be restrained on the floor because he was whacking at other kids. I don't know what is going on. I'm thinking maybe he needs closer supervision to prevent these misunderstandings because I'm sure that's what they are. doesn't usually freak out so this is weird and I'm not there to see what is happening. I can almost always head it off before it turns into a meltdown. has been on his higher dose of lexapro for a couple of days but I'm assuming that might take a while to get to a steady level in his blood.

I've been so sad all day. I've just been lying around and moping. It's just so heartbreaking and it terrifies me now because is 13 and very tall and big and it's so much easier for him to get into BIG trouble now. I worry I won't be able to prevent prison experiences for much longer. I mean that's probably just me catastrophizing but I feel like I need to be ready for anything. Meanwhile my husband is mainly worried about whether or not will take Algebra this year since he didn't do all that well in pre-algebra. I think he should just take pre-al again because a reduction in stress levels can really help.

Someone please respond. I just need some friendly, understanding people around me right now, even if it's on the internet and not in person.Thanks,Miriam

July 13, 2010

I hope your son is in a special needs camp. If you have

these type of fears for your son about aggression I would

talk to the child psychiatrist. For agressive behavior

and autism the medication is usally rispedal for the younger

kids and more child psychiatrist are using Abilify for the

older kids.

Lexapro and other anti-depressants can sometimes reduce

outbursts that are fueled by anxiety. However some

kids have an opposite effect. The use of anti-depressants can cause an increase

in aurosal/outbursts etc.

I just don't see a reason for your son to go to prison or

an institution for Asperger. A mood stablizer of some

sort can be trialed to reduce the outbursts. It won't

be possible to head off all difficult situations. And because

of his size people will increasing react to his outbursts.

So sooner or later you will need to consider this option which

is far safer than prison I think.

If there are any outbursts at school (I hope your son has an

IEP) ask for a behaviorist to get involved right away.

You will get the support you need then. The behaviorist and

child psychiatrist will work together.

Your son is not a criminal and should be treated as one. But it

will be up to you to get the medication and services he needs

to be able to cope better.

I wish you the best of luck in this.

Pam

>

> had another bad day at camp today. He had to be restrained on the floor

because he was whacking at other kids. I don't know what is going on. I'm

thinking maybe he needs closer supervision to prevent these misunderstandings

because I'm sure that's what they are. doesn't usually freak out so this

is weird and I'm not there to see what is happening. I can almost always head

it off before it turns into a meltdown. has been on his higher dose of

lexapro for a couple of days but I'm assuming that might take a while to get to

a steady level in his blood.

>

> I've been so sad all day. I've just been lying around and moping. It's just

so heartbreaking and it terrifies me now because is 13 and very tall and

big and it's so much easier for him to get into BIG trouble now. I worry I

won't be able to prevent prison experiences for much longer. I mean that's

probably just me catastrophizing but I feel like I need to be ready for

anything. Meanwhile my husband is mainly worried about whether or not will

take Algebra this year since he didn't do all that well in pre-algebra. I think

he should just take pre-al again because a reduction in stress levels can really

help.

>

> Someone please respond. I just need some friendly, understanding people

around me right now, even if it's on the internet and not in person.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Miriam

>

July 13, 2010

Wow, thanks to everyone. has an IEP. He goes to boys and girls club but

his spot is paid by the school district. A special ed teacher as well as a para

are there. I suggested keeping a closer eye on and to anticipate

situations that might cause him distress. They are very enthusiastic about

doing these things. This is our third year at this camp and sometimes there are

problems and sometimes not, but the staff are ALWAYS working hard to help him so

that eventually he has a lot of success. The special ed teacher is trained in

restraining and I feel that if is a danger to someone then being restrained

by someone who is trained to do it appropriately is the way to go. I've had to

physically keep him from harming other people before. I'm going to consider

that maybe restraint is being used BEFORE is actually doing anything

dangerous because now everyone's afraid he'll get dangerous. Anyway, we talk

face to face whenever I pick up or drop him off. He normally takes a bus

but when is having trouble like this I pick him up early. I've suggested

having some concrete ways of distracting . I left some pokemon cards with

them to give to him to distract him and get him removed from a situation in a

positive way BEFORE explodes. I'm going to suggest they also keep track of

how many times behaves appropriately when he's been given some grief by

another kid. There is one child who doesn't get along with and it isn't

's fault. has been appropriate with him despite this boy hitting him.

The boy always gets in trouble with these situations but maybe needs a lot

longer to cool down after something like that. I will probably suggest some

sort of rewarding thing (extra swim time maybe?) just so will be reinforced

for doing the right things and given plenty of time to cool down after some sort

of annoying interaction that handled well. If more than one thing happens

it takes him a long time to calm down.

This is highly unusual behavior for . We had tried lowering his lexapro

when summer started and he was doing well but had a tough time at camp the

second day so I thought and the doc agreed we should go back to his previous

dose. So 10mg instead of 5mg. is calmer at home and doesn't seem to hang

on to anger at much but he's still pretty volatile. I can't quite figure out

what is different. is expressing a lot of anxiety about bugs. I bought

him a clip on bug repelling thing made by OFF. The whole meltdown yesterday was

because of his fear of bugs. He wanted to sit at a particular table because it

was further from the window and the bugs and the sunlight. I gave some gum

to chew to regulate his sensory system a bit. has a little fan on a string

to wear around his neck so he can keep that on to help him stay cool. I bought

two used books today that I'm going to ask staff to keep in a safe place so

can have them there as distraction. I told if he could have a good day at

camp through thursday then I'll take him to get Mcs Thursday evening.

Anyway, I think he should do better today. I'll keep you all posted and thank

you SO much for being here for me. I really was sad yesterday. I feel much

better today.

Miriam

> >

> > had another bad day at camp today. He had to be restrained on the

floor because he was whacking at other kids. I don't know what is going on.

I'm thinking maybe he needs closer supervision to prevent these

misunderstandings because I'm sure that's what they are. doesn't usually

freak out so this is weird and I'm not there to see what is happening. I can

almost always head it off before it turns into a meltdown. has been on his

higher dose of lexapro for a couple of days but I'm assuming that might take a

while to get to a steady level in his blood.

> >

> > I've been so sad all day. I've just been lying around and moping. It's

just so heartbreaking and it terrifies me now because is 13 and very tall

and big and it's so much easier for him to get into BIG trouble now. I worry I

won't be able to prevent prison experiences for much longer. I mean that's

probably just me catastrophizing but I feel like I need to be ready for

anything. Meanwhile my husband is mainly worried about whether or not will

take Algebra this year since he didn't do all that well in pre-algebra. I think

he should just take pre-al again because a reduction in stress levels can really

help.

> >

> > Someone please respond. I just need some friendly, understanding people

around me right now, even if it's on the internet and not in person.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Miriam

> >

>

July 13, 2010

my son is 12 and is a very sweet kid, when he isnt around peers that is. If peers are around and they make fun of him, he is like a tae poot, waiting to steam over and explode. He has been on 20 mg of Lexapro for gosh, over 4 years now. Wow... He was being treated for ADHD since kindergarten, which was the wrong thing, he should have been treated for the Aspergers and Bipolar, since Bipolar is on his dads side of the family. BUT doctors PEDIATRICIANS, dont get a complete family history, they just want to prescribe medications. Well, I say, if medications dont work after awhile.....then the diagnosis is wrong and another avenue must be approached.I feel bad for your son right now. Some stimuli is getting at him and no one is attempting to try to figure out

what it is. Is someone making fun of him? Is someone making fun of you? Are there noises/lights around that bother him? etcReducing his meds would not be a good thing. It does take awhile for the Lexapro to get in, just like it takes awhile for them to get out. Justa reminder.... Never stop Lexapro, or any antidepressant for that matter. Always slowly take them off for a week. Of they are on 20 mg, taper them down with 10 mg for a week, then they are off.Good luck sweetheart!From: Robyn Iuliano <hamptonroadsaspergers@...>" " <Aspergers Treatment >Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 11:15:55 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Need some support right now.

So sorry....hugs to you.Is it possible to lower the meds to what it was previously?Is it possible to go and observe? These are the 2 avenues I would pursue.Robyn-- Sent from my Palm PreOn Jul 12, 2010 23:12, mimasdprofile <callis4773 (DOT) com> wrote:

had another bad day at camp today. He had to be restrained on the floor because he was whacking at other kids. I don't know what is going on. I'm thinking maybe he needs closer supervision to prevent these misunderstandings because I'm sure that's what they are. doesn't usually freak out so this is weird and I'm not there to see what is happening. I can almost always head it off before it turns into a meltdown. has been on his higher dose of lexapro for a couple of days but I'm assuming that might take a while to get to a steady level in his blood.

I've been so sad all day. I've just been lying around and moping. It's just so heartbreaking and it terrifies me now because is 13 and very tall and big and it's so much easier for him to get into BIG trouble now. I worry I won't be able to prevent prison experiences for much longer. I mean that's probably just me catastrophizing but I feel like I need to be ready for anything. Meanwhile my husband is mainly worried about whether or not will take Algebra this year since he didn't do all that well in pre-algebra. I think he should just take pre-al again because a reduction in stress levels can really help.

Someone please respond. I just need some friendly, understanding people around me right now, even if it's on the internet and not in person.

Thanks,

Miriam

July 13, 2010

Miriam,

This does not sound like the you spoke of before. Something is not clicking....it doesn't sound like him at all!!!!!

Is something setting him off? You said he has an aide...what does she/he notice anything? Could there be triggers? Lexapro? Could that be setting him off?

Something is not right...could they kids be teasing him or picking on him? This can happen even if there is an aide there...

Miriam...something is setting him off...could it be anxiety, fear, homesickness, lack of routine. Something...

We are all here for you ...we are all praying for you and your son!!!

Jan

"In the Midst of Difficulty lies Opportunity" Albert Einstein

Success is not measured by one's position but by the obstacles one has overcome to obtain that position

From: <doyourecycle@...> Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 9:14:40 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Need some support right now.

Miriam, my dear, you are so NOT alone. You're going through some tough stuff that we've all been through. It can feel so bad, I know this. Don't stay, "feeling bad" too long. It will suck the life out of you.

I think while you definitely need some support to stay strong. I wonder if you are asking the right questions to the camp? Is this camp through the school? Did you give your consent for restraints through an iep? Who is trained to restrain? Do you think the ratio is too high for your son? My dumb guess might be that the counsellor wasn't watching closely enough to see that your son was upset and there was no intervention for the trigger or the unsolved problem and your son got overwhelmed and reacted. Could you stay one day to observe while helping? I would have a discussion with the camp supervisor about what went wrong if you haven't already. I would carefully watch their level of concern to correct what went wrong to avoid a recurrences. Stay strong, my friend. Here are some inspirational quotes I dug up for you:

"God did not give us the spirit of fear. Fear does not come from God. God gives us the spirit of power and love and a sound mind."

(But, if you're not religious,)

"When you get into a tight place and everything goes against you, till it seems as though you could not hold on a minute longer, never give up then, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn." Harriet Beecher Stowe

"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men."~ F Kennedy

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:08 PM, mimasdprofile <callis4773 (DOT) com> wrote:

had another bad day at camp today. He had to be restrained on the floor because he was whacking at other kids. I don't know what is going on. I'm thinking maybe he needs closer supervision to prevent these misunderstandings because I'm sure that's what they are. doesn't usually freak out so this is weird and I'm not there to see what is happening. I can almost always head it off before it turns into a meltdown. has been on his higher dose of lexapro for a couple of days but I'm assuming that might take a while to get to a steady level in his blood.I've been so sad all day. I've just been lying around and moping. It's just so heartbreaking and it terrifies me now because is 13 and very tall and big and it's so much easier for him to get into BIG trouble now. I worry I won't be able to prevent prison experiences for much longer. I mean that's probably just me catastrophizing but I feel like I need to be ready for anything.

Meanwhile my husband is mainly worried about whether or not will take Algebra this year since he didn't do all that well in pre-algebra. I think he should just take pre-al again because a reduction in stress levels can really help.Someone please respond. I just need some friendly, understanding people around me right now, even if it's on the internet and not in person.Thanks,Miriam

July 13, 2010

Miriam...can you bring him home? Maybe the camp is not right for him!!! Hugs...jan

"In the Midst of Difficulty lies Opportunity" Albert Einstein

Success is not measured by one's position but by the obstacles one has overcome to obtain that position

From: Baer <amandabaer76@...> Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 2:42:00 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Need some support right now.

my son is 12 and is a very sweet kid, when he isnt around peers that is. If peers are around and they make fun of him, he is like a tae poot, waiting to steam over and explode. He has been on 20 mg of Lexapro for gosh, over 4 years now. Wow... He was being treated for ADHD since kindergarten, which was the wrong thing, he should have been treated for the Aspergers and Bipolar, since Bipolar is on his dads side of the family. BUT doctors PEDIATRICIANS, dont get a complete family history, they just want to prescribe medications. Well, I say, if medications dont work after awhile.....then the diagnosis is wrong and another avenue must be approached.

I feel bad for your son right now. Some stimuli is getting at him and no one is attempting to try to figure out what it is. Is someone making fun of him? Is someone making fun of you? Are there noises/lights around that bother him? etc

Reducing his meds would not be a good thing. It does take awhile for the Lexapro to get in, just like it takes awhile for them to get out. Justa reminder.... Never stop Lexapro, or any antidepressant for that matter. Always slowly take them off for a week. Of they are on 20 mg, taper them down with 10 mg for a week, then they are off.

Good luck sweetheart!

From: Robyn Iuliano <hamptonroadsasperge rs (DOT) com>" " <Aspergers Treatment>Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 11:15:55 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Need some support right now.

So sorry....hugs to you.Is it possible to lower the meds to what it was previously?Is it possible to go and observe? These are the 2 avenues I would pursue.Robyn

-- Sent from my Palm Pre

On Jul 12, 2010 23:12, mimasdprofile <callis4773 (DOT) com> wrote:

had another bad day at camp today. He had to be restrained on the floor because he was whacking at other kids. I don't know what is going on. I'm thinking maybe he needs closer supervision to prevent these misunderstandings because I'm sure that's what they are. doesn't usually freak out so this is weird and I'm not there to see what is happening. I can almost always head it off before it turns into a meltdown. has been on his higher dose of lexapro for a couple of days but I'm assuming that might take a while to get to a steady level in his blood.I've been so sad all day. I've just been lying around and moping. It's just so heartbreaking and it terrifies me now because is 13 and very tall and big and it's so much easier for him to get into BIG trouble now. I worry I won't be able to prevent prison experiences for much longer. I mean that's probably just me catastrophizing but I feel like I need to be ready for anything.

Meanwhile my husband is mainly worried about whether or not will take Algebra this year since he didn't do all that well in pre-algebra. I think he should just take pre-al again because a reduction in stress levels can really help.Someone please respond. I just need some friendly, understanding people around me right now, even if it's on the internet and not in person.Thanks,Miriam

July 13, 2010

Thanks. Yes, we were at 10 mg of Lexapro then went to 5mg and that was okay

until camp started. So we went back up again but that was only a few days ago

so it may take a little while.

I think misunderstood something as teasing but then real teasing came in

after he misunderstood. It can get very jumbled up. I think the people working

with him are trying very hard to figure it out. His para has been with us off

and on for 2 years now. He was there for all of 6th grade then did camp with

last summer and now he's doing camp with again this year. has

gotten quite big and I think his para would just hug him and move him to another

area if something started to get negative and was fine with that. is

a very huggy kid. But this year is huge and can't be hugged and moved at

the same time unless he REALLY wants to move. New methods must be found. I had

to come to terms with this years ago because I'm just not strong enough but I

cope. So NOW it may be time to educate his para in some new things but the guy

is VERY motivated and works extremely hard. He wants to succeed. We

haven't quite figured it out but it is a team effort and everyone really is

working at it.

Miriam

>

> my son is 12 and is a very sweet kid, when he isnt around peers that is. If

> peers are around and they make fun of him, he is like a tae poot, waiting to

> steam over and explode. He has been on 20 mg of Lexapro for gosh, over 4 years

> now. Wow... He was being treated for ADHD since kindergarten, which was the

> wrong thing, he should have been treated for the Aspergers and Bipolar, since

> Bipolar is on his dads side of the family. BUT doctors PEDIATRICIANS, dont get

a

> complete family history, they just want to prescribe medications. Well, I say,

> if medications dont work after awhile.....then the diagnosis is wrong and

> another avenue must be approached.

>

> I feel bad for your son right now. Some stimuli is getting at him and no one

is

> attempting to try to figure out what it is. Is someone making fun of him? Is

> someone making fun of you? Are there noises/lights around that bother him? etc

>

> Reducing his meds would not be a good thing. It does take awhile for the

Lexapro

> to get in, just like it takes awhile for them to get out. Justa reminder....

> Never stop Lexapro, or any antidepressant for that matter. Always slowly take

> them off for a week. Of they are on 20 mg, taper them down with 10 mg for a

> week, then they are off.

>

> Good luck sweetheart!

>

July 13, 2010

Thanks Jan,

To me this seems very much like a social skills issue. will get into some

challenging social skill moment and he needs very VERY close supervision and

coaching. But is used to this from me and from his schools so generally if

someone gives him ideas on how to handle a situation when he's in the middle of

that situation he will use that. Then he'll generalize it to other situations.

Thank you for responding. Every response helps me think about the issues and

even if someone is totally off the mark with a suggestion it gives me one more

clue and one more way of thinking. Inevitably we will find a way to fix things.

is a VERY VERY sweet kid but he can get into huge trouble with interactions

with kids his age just by being confused or misunderstanding someone's

intentions. We've seen this before but not recently until camp. Testosterone

is a factor, the reduction in lexapro is probably a factor so we put that back

up again. Other kids may be teasing him so he needs someone to help him handle

that. Sometimes he gets in trouble defending friends when they're being teased.

His heart is in the right place but social situations are exceedingly confusing

for him and he is confusing to other people. Adults can deal with it. Kids

often can't. Especially middle schoolers.

Miriam

>

> Â

> > had another bad day at camp today. He had to be restrained on the floor

> >because he was whacking at other kids. I don't know what is going on. I'm

> >thinking maybe he needs closer supervision to prevent these misunderstandings

> >because I'm sure that's what they are. doesn't usually freak out so this

is

> >weird and I'm not there to see what is happening. I can almost always head it

> >off before it turns into a meltdown. has been on his higher dose of

lexapro

> >for a couple of days but I'm assuming that might take a while to get to a

steady

> >level in his blood.

> >

> >I've been so sad all day. I've just been lying around and moping. It's just

so

> >heartbreaking and it terrifies me now because is 13 and very tall and

big

> >and it's so much easier for him to get into BIG trouble now. I worry I won't

be

> >able to prevent prison experiences for much longer. I mean that's probably

just

> >me catastrophizing but I feel like I need to be ready for anything. Meanwhile

my

> >husband is mainly worried about whether or not will take Algebra this

year

> >since he didn't do all that well in pre-algebra. I think he should just take

> >pre-al again because a reduction in stress levels can really help.

> >

> >Someone please respond. I just need some friendly, understanding people

around

> >me right now, even if it's on the internet and not in person.

> >

> >Thanks,

> >

> >Miriam

> >

>

July 13, 2010

It's a day camp and he's not staying the full day right now. Tomorrow we'll try

it because there won't be much in the way of interaction with other kids.

>

> Â

> had another bad day at camp today. He had to be restrained on the floor

> because he was whacking at other kids. I don't know what is going on. I'm

> thinking maybe he needs closer supervision to prevent these misunderstandings

> because I'm sure that's what they are. doesn't usually freak out so this

is

> weird and I'm not there to see what is happening. I can almost always head it

> off before it turns into a meltdown. has been on his higher dose of

lexapro

> for a couple of days but I'm assuming that might take a while to get to a

steady

> level in his blood.

>

> I've been so sad all day. I've just been lying around and moping. It's just so

> heartbreaking and it terrifies me now because is 13 and very tall and big

> and it's so much easier for him to get into BIG trouble now. I worry I won't

be

> able to prevent prison experiences for much longer. I mean that's probably

just

> me catastrophizing but I feel like I need to be ready for anything. Meanwhile

my

> husband is mainly worried about whether or not will take Algebra this

year

> since he didn't do all that well in pre-algebra. I think he should just take

> pre-al again because a reduction in stress levels can really help.

>

> Someone please respond. I just need some friendly, understanding people around

> me right now, even if it's on the internet and not in person.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Miriam

>

July 13, 2010

I know a family where the father was taking antidepressants, and his depression

wasn't under control, so the psychiatrist upped the meds. They had a year of

rage episodes. When the family asked the psychiatrist if it could be the meds,

he denied it. When lowered the dose, the rage stopped. Put that family thru

hell. Turned out he had low testosterone etc contributing to depression.

Miranda

>

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