Guest guest Posted October 13, 2000 Report Share Posted October 13, 2000 Thank you. What is Chi Gong? I've done Tai Chi and that was very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2000 Report Share Posted October 13, 2000 sooo NOT OT...Chi Gong has the potential to be the cure to human disease. Ok tai chi si simlar what chi gong is is a collection of special breathing excercises, movements that channel the internal energy 'chi' in a healthy way. Having this vital life energy in balance is the key to feeling great again. The problem is that it requires a lot of mental changing of how you think, do things, meditation and of course your body must be balance with nutrition as well. through chi gong techn for energy healing have come about. Also in martial arts it has been used for techniques called iron shirt or iron vest. This is where the practitioner can actually direct their chi to their chest, e tc... and actually deflect a spear, sword, etc.. This allows a pratinioner to also break bricks with very little muscle power. Said chi can even be used to throw an assailant with again very little movement. This is NOT just fantasy it has been proven that chi exists> Although it can not be totally explained by current modern science. A good book to read on the basics of chi gong (presented for westerners) is " Chi gong -the ancient chinese way to health by paul dong and aristide esser isbn # 1-56924-856-7. There are many others but, this gives a basic. There are also chi gong video tapes out there. Hope that helps. _Adriel > From: <kelly94114@...> > Reply- egroups > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:52:42 -0700 (PDT) > egroups > Subject: Re: [ ] OT Chi Gong > > Thank you. What is Chi Gong? I've done Tai Chi and that was very good. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2000 Report Share Posted October 14, 2000 --- AdrielAzure <adrielazure@...> wrote: > sooo NOT OT...Chi Gong has the potential to be the > cure to human disease. Ok tai chi is simlar Qui Gong is also partially based on Buddhist meditation techniques. Buddhism is not deistic, and one may safely meditate without giving up allegiance to the family religion. A good non-religious introduction to meditation can be found in Jon Kabat-Zinn's _Full Catastrophe Living_, available in most major bookstores and through Amazon.com. The author runs a stress reduction clinic in New England, and the methods he describes have proven success in combating stress, pain, and depression. w/ metta -- , North Jersey Highlands __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 It sounds as though with the diet and Chi Gong you've got answers to cure us all, none of those helped me. Has anyone told the AMA they are soon to be unemployed? I have limited experience in both areas, been eating for nearly 50 years, my husband and son have been studying martial arts for decades, both black belts, studied several different styles, and my son has owned and operated his own schools. IMHO, Ilene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 eeer buddhism is not deity priented but it does not allow for other religions. inf act it teaches that you must move beyond deistic thinking for true enlightenment. As far as the qui gong well yes it can be done and not ahve any religious factors but, for this stuff to true take hold it does require to change your think about life in general. So yeah none deistic thinking would be part of it. Btw qui gong actually comes from pre bddhsit teachings like daoism it was enhanced via influences of buddah from india. _Adriel > From: robert harris <raharris@...> > Reply- egroups > Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 06:51:51 -0700 (PDT) > egroups > Subject: Re: [ ] OT Chi Gong > > --- AdrielAzure <adrielazure@...> wrote: >> sooo NOT OT...Chi Gong has the potential to be the >> cure to human disease. Ok tai chi is simlar > > Qui Gong is also partially based on Buddhist > meditation techniques. Buddhism is not deistic, and > one may safely meditate without giving up allegiance > to the family religion. A good non-religious > introduction to meditation can be found in Jon > Kabat-Zinn's _Full Catastrophe Living_, available in > most major bookstores and through Amazon.com. The > author runs a stress reduction clinic in New England, > and the methods he describes have proven success in > combating stress, pain, and depression. > w/ metta -- , North Jersey Highlands > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 This thread is becoming unraveled. Please speak freely promoting your ideas but DO NOT knock down a different approach. Thank you everyone Moderator belts don;t really mean anything in true martial arts studies. true journies have been about self enlightenment belts came about for westerners who had to feel they accomplished something 'tangiable " in the martial arts world a belt is fairly arbitrary. The issues with what you just mentioned is mental state and the attitudwe thats ems to eprmiate this e-mail si why those things don't work skepticism is not a good partner to this road. That's not only my opinion those are the teachings. _Adriel > From: CHLOE1212@... > Reply- egroups > Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 06:10:36 EDT > egroups > Subject: Re: [ ] OT Chi Gong > > It sounds as though with the diet and Chi Gong you've got answers to cure us > all, none of those helped me. Has anyone told the AMA they are soon to be > unemployed? > > I have limited experience in both areas, been eating for nearly 50 years, my > husband and son have been studying martial arts for decades, both black > belts, studied several different styles, and my son has owned and operated > his own schools. > > IMHO, > Ilene > > > > Please visit our new web page at: > http://www.wpunj.edu/icip/pa > > This past year had moderated a chat on arthritis at > www.about.com on Thursday evenings and hopes to start up doing so again soon- > we will keep you posted! Meanwhile, if anyone would like to start a weekly > chat on egroups, please contact or . Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2000 Report Share Posted October 15, 2000 I may not be well versed in chi gong, but I will say that Acupuncture and meditation have definitely helped me...I have been pretty much in remission for the past five years. And I think the current flare and energetic wipeout I am experiencing has more to do with Inner balance and mindset than with a physical factor...but then again, if you look at all these practices, they will all agree that the outer world reflects the inner world. So the key to healing DOES take place within the heart and mind.... If we know that, what are we doing to actively heal our Selves, rather than just take a pill to try and mask the problem. If holding on to resentment and anger and stuffed emotions are the triggers, what can we do to become more balanced within...? I still have yet to listen to my acupuncturist and chiropractor, friends, etc...and start Yoga. Hell, I still have many changes to make in my diet and lifestyle...but even though I am in pain, and feeling awful, I still nurture Self, and know that is where my healing starts! just a thought- -Li AdrielAzure wrote: > eeer buddhism is not deity priented but it does not allow for other > religions. inf act it teaches that you must move beyond deistic thinking for > true enlightenment. As far as the qui gong well yes it can be done and not > ahve any religious factors but, for this stuff to true take hold it does > require to change your think about life in general. So yeah none deistic > thinking would be part of it. Btw qui gong actually comes from pre bddhsit > teachings like daoism it was enhanced via influences of buddah from india. > _Adriel > > > From: robert harris <raharris@...> > > Reply- egroups > > Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 06:51:51 -0700 (PDT) > > egroups > > Subject: Re: [ ] OT Chi Gong > > > > --- AdrielAzure <adrielazure@...> wrote: > >> sooo NOT OT...Chi Gong has the potential to be the > >> cure to human disease. Ok tai chi is simlar > > > > Qui Gong is also partially based on Buddhist > > meditation techniques. Buddhism is not deistic, and > > one may safely meditate without giving up allegiance > > to the family religion. A good non-religious > > introduction to meditation can be found in Jon > > Kabat-Zinn's _Full Catastrophe Living_, available in > > most major bookstores and through Amazon.com. The > > author runs a stress reduction clinic in New England, > > and the methods he describes have proven success in > > combating stress, pain, and depression. > > w/ metta -- , North Jersey Highlands > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2000 Report Share Posted October 16, 2000 HI glad to hear it's helping actually acupunctures based on chi gong. Yoga in finternal energy. think of chi as battery since we are sick it's not an energizer lol So by doing tai chi, yoga, chi gong, energy healing and acupuncture this battery is in the process of being repaired. Now the body mind and spirit are truly interconneced and unfortuantely western medicine is only just barely cathching on to this. Well so of course mental state and attitude is going to affect things. PS psoriasis among other diseases are caused by mental and emotional states. A little food for thought when these things don't work it may justt be that WE fail the treeatment as opposed to the treatment failing US> As human beings we find each much easier to blame something or someone else rather than accepting our own fault in the situation. Of course we did not ask to be sick but, we may just have done it to ourselves. I truly beleive our health is in our hands. NOw of course nutrition helps this as well. _Adriel > From: Marsh <wrdwitch@...> > Reply- egroups > Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:48:39 -0700 > egroups > Subject: Re: [ ] OT Chi Gong > > I may not be well versed in chi gong, but I will say that Acupuncture and > meditation have definitely helped me...I have been pretty much in remission > for the past five years. And I think the current flare and energetic wipeout I > am experiencing has more to do with Inner balance and > mindset than with a physical factor...but then again, if you look at all these > practices, they will all agree that the outer world reflects the inner world. > So the key to healing DOES take place within the heart and mind.... If we know > that, what are we doing to actively heal our Selves, rather than just take a > pill to try and mask the problem. If holding on to resentment and anger and > stuffed emotions are the triggers, what can we do > to become more balanced within...? > I still have yet to listen to my acupuncturist and chiropractor, friends, > etc...and start Yoga. Hell, I still have many changes to make in my diet and > lifestyle...but even though I am in pain, and feeling awful, I still nurture > Self, and know that is where my healing starts! > just a thought- > -Li > > AdrielAzure wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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