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My PA is primarily in my hands. When I am in a flare my hands feel hot as if

they are radiating heat. It is a strange sensation. R.E.

[ ] Temperature and Pain

Has anyone else noticed feeling hot (even in really cold situations) whenever

pain is accelerated? For example it could be freezing but due to being in pain

you feel like you are in a mild sauna? thanks for any info.

hugs,

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Ronnie,

Inflamed joints *do* radiate more heat than surrounding tissues. The

first time a rheumatologist felt me knee to see if it felt warm to

him (it did) surprised me, because up until then I had thought

the " warm " sensation was purely psychological. I wouldn't be

surprised if you could measure the temperature difference with a

thermometer.

-- Ron

> My PA is primarily in my hands. When I am in a flare my hands feel

hot as if they are radiating heat. It is a strange sensation. R.E.

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My problems started in my feet and the very first symptom, which I didn't

know was a symptom at the time, was an inability to tolerate any heat on my

feet. I couldn't wear socks and heat blowing from the car heater is

excruiating. I thought I was going crazy. I have worn open toed shoes

without socks for the past 3 winters (and we have cold winters here in

Eastern Washington) because I can't stand the heat. It also exacerbates the

pain, especially at night. We keep our house about 64 degrees all winter

(my poor husband, Saint , nearly freezes) and I sleep with my feet

outside the covers.

So, for what it is worth, you are not alone or going crazy.

Cheri

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> Has anyone else noticed feeling hot (even in really cold situations)

whenever pain is accelerated? For example it could be freezing but due to

being in pain you feel like you are in a mild sauna? thanks for any info.

> hugs,

> ali

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Ronnie wrote:

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> My PA is primarily in my hands. When I am in a flare my hands feel hot as if

they are >radiating heat. It is a strange sensation. R.E.

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>>ali wrote:

>>Has anyone else noticed feeling hot (even in really cold situations) whenever

pain

>>is accelerated?

My PA is also primarily in my hands. I don't notice any kind of a

difference tempwise when the pain (tenderness, aching) is more than

usual.

--Louise

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Hi,

I'm tired of all the symptoms. Can someone make them go away?

;)

-Meghan

> > My PA is primarily in my hands. When I am in a flare my hands

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> hot as if they are radiating heat. It is a strange sensation. R.E.

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I wonder if I could map it withan IR spectrum camera? I have one available.

R.E.

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Ronnie,

Inflamed joints *do* radiate more heat than surrounding tissues. The

first time a rheumatologist felt me knee to see if it felt warm to

him (it did) surprised me, because up until then I had thought

the " warm " sensation was purely psychological. I wouldn't be

surprised if you could measure the temperature difference with a

thermometer.

-- Ron

> My PA is primarily in my hands. When I am in a flare my hands feel

hot as if they are radiating heat. It is a strange sensation. R.E.

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In a message dated 4/26/02 8:07:33 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

alicat1976@... writes:

<< Has anyone else noticed feeling hot (even in really cold situations)

whenever pain is accelerated? >>

Ali - I get tremendously hot and sweat like mad when I'm in pain. I guess it

raises your blood pressure or something.

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If the gradient can be set down to maybe .1 degree increments it might be

effective to map the heat. I'm not sure what you might gain by having that

map as you already know where it hurts and I suspect the redness and

swelling will closely correlate with the additional heat in affected areas.

But that is not the reason I post this time.

What this discussion has made me think of is; " Why does the effected spot

get hot? You have to burn calories to make heat right? So what is

happening to the metabolism of that spot to burn the extra calories? Right

back to defect in fat metabolism. [medium chain fatty acids, aracidonic

acid, prostaglandin G2 and leukotreins, thromboxane] Orin

In a message dated 4/28/02 12:24:38 PM Central Daylight Time,

ronevans@... writes:

> wonder if I could map it withan IR spectrum camera? I have one available.

> R.E.

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> Ronnie,

>

> Inflamed joints *do* radiate more heat than surrounding tissues. The

> first time a rheumatologist felt me knee to see if it felt warm to

> him (it did) surprised me, because up until then I had thought

> the " warm " sensation was purely psychological. I wouldn't be

> surprised if you could measure the temperature difference with a

> thermometer.

>

> -- Ron

>

>

>

> > My PA is primarily in my hands. When I am in a flare my hands feel

> hot as if they are radiating heat. It is a strange sensation. R.E

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Maybe, just possibly, that is why it is called inflammation?

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> Ronnie,

>

> Inflamed joints *do* radiate more heat than surrounding tissues. The

> first time a rheumatologist felt me knee to see if it felt warm to

> him (it did) surprised me, because up until then I had thought

> the " warm " sensation was purely psychological. I wouldn't be

> surprised if you could measure the temperature difference with a

> thermometer.

>

> -- Ron

>

>

>

> > My PA is primarily in my hands. When I am in a flare my hands feel

> hot as if they are radiating heat. It is a strange sensation. R.E

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Orin,

It's my understanding (and this may be incorrect), based off the autoimmune

nature of the disorder, that the heat and redness are caused by the bodies white

blood cells, essentally, having a cartilige destroying party in the affected

joint. The heat and reddness are caused by the same factors that cause this

reaction when you have an infection. From the way it was explained to me, the

body is confusing the protien code of cartlilige with the protien code of a

virus (or some other matter that initates an immune responce). The heat, I was

told was caused by the destruction of those protien codes, as is the

inflamation. This destruction uses energy, and heat is released as a by-product.

Well, that's my possibly incorrect .02

Additionally, I have a question. I've been wanting to keep the x-rays down to a

mild roar ( I plan on haning children w/i the next few years, and the radiation

makes me jumpy about that) but now, I'm looking at every bump and callus on my

hands, this strange horrible pain I get in my hips as though I'm having symptoms

in places other than my neck. I've seen, in a skeletal radiology book (for the

sake of your sanity, don't go down this road. Books like this are rather

unsettling) and seen symptomatic hip structures. If anyone has affected hips,

please tell me how it started, and what it felt like. Due to where the ovaries

are, I don't want to get this area x-rayed until I've had 2 children. I'll just

deal with the pain, but having a bit to work with as far as what it could be

would ease my mind. I don't know of other things that could cause this splitting

pain (it feels like the joint between my hip socket and my leg bone and being

driven apart by a wedge every time I put pressure on it, and there is the

occasional nerve pain)

Thanks!

Angie

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> Ronnie,

>

> Inflamed joints *do* radiate more heat than surrounding tissues. The

> first time a rheumatologist felt me knee to see if it felt warm to

> him (it did) surprised me, because up until then I had thought

> the " warm " sensation was purely psychological. I wouldn't be

> surprised if you could measure the temperature difference with a

> thermometer.

>

> -- Ron

>

>

>

> > My PA is primarily in my hands. When I am in a flare my hands feel

> hot as if they are radiating heat. It is a strange sensation. R.E

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