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Hi Duncan,

Thanks, I'll do what I can. I have not heard of scottish thistle

root or anything like that, but if I have a list of inulin foods, I

maybe able to go through them and find out what we do have.

I have the selenium, I'll take that too. Would you say the most

important supplements are - selenium, a green food supplement,

undenatured whey, inulin? what about a fish oil supplement, vitamin

C, vitamin E?

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> ,

>

> You're at a definite disadvantage and your road to health will be

> much more difficult without the cash to buy supplements. All the

> highest-antioxidant foods and the very highest natural inulin-

> containing vegetables you can dig should be part of your diet. Dig?

> Yes; I expect many of these will be weeds, actually. I think Scotch

> Thistle root, anything in the lily family, things like that,

probably

> grow in New Zealand; these can be staple foods. You still need

> selenium 300 mcg or so daily.

>

> Duncan

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> Hi Bee,

> I just joined your group and in the last couple of days I got a

lot of answers to a lot of questions. Mostly because it is very well

> organized. And thanks to UK Nick, he did a lot of research on that

> diet, I am going to work with that one.

==>Hi Ron. Wecome to our group.

>

> Now, I will try to keep this short, I have Candida mostly in the

neck and throat.Also my neck has turned a stained red which varies in

intensitie with pain. (my painometer) I have a substantial supply of

Nystatin suspension and Fluconazol pills. I was presribed these by a

> doctor that I can no longer see because he does not take insurance

> and my paying him $200 a week is impossible. I talked with my last

> doctor who recently retired and he said not to take either without

a doctor monitoring liver/kidneys.

==>Nystatin suspension can contain sugar, so check it to make sure it

doesn't. Even nystatin powder can be perscribed and dispensed

incorrectly - it must not be the kind that contains talcum powder

which is only intended for external use. That said, nystatin will

not harm the liver in any way because it does not get past the

digestive tract. However Fluconzol will do damage liver, and the

doctor was right that it shouldn't be taken without monitoring.

However, natural antifungals do not cause any problems, except they

do create die-off symptoms. I recommend you start on the diet first,

plus supplements, which kills off a lot of candida, according to my

candida program, along with coconut oil and Pau D'Arco tea which are

antifungals too. Please read through my main candida article

thoroughly so you understand why you start this way, and when to add

one of the natural antifungals I recommend.

==>Since my website is suspended, you will find my candida article on

the Group's Files (see the left menu).

> He was also steadfast in his belief that my teeth were the cause of

this problem although he would not give it the name of candida. The

doctor that I cant afford gave it that name after a fecal test. Well

here is the dilemne. I had my teeth removed a few weeks ago. All

26.They were loaded mercury fillings and were in poor shape.

>

> I was hoping after having them removed that this would magically

> dissapear. Just another dissapointment. But just the opposite is

> happening, My neck is swelling up more, It is so painful that I

cant move. The only way I could sleep last night was after 2

percocets (left over from teeth removal) which dont do anything for

the pain but did allow me to sleep even if only for a few hours.

Please dont tell me to go to a doctor, I have seen most of the yellow

pages and was at one Tuesday, he took blood and said return in 3

months. SCREW DOCTORS.

>

> I am sure that my teeth had some to do with this, but I also had

some major shoulder surgeries. And I have taken more than my share of

> Kenalog 40 and dosepaks(steroids and prednisone) So I believe that

> also played a significant role. The pain that I have endured in the

> last few days has been identical as to when this started 3 years

ago. It is literally paralyzing. And when I am coughing that stuff

up, that is the expedition from hell!

==>I understand where you are coming from about doctors Ron. We've

all had similar feelings and experiences. I believe your neck and

throat was mainly caused by having your mercury fillings removed

which released the mercury mostly into your throat and neck. There

are very precise procedures dentists must follow when they remove

them.

>

> My bottom line question is this, what can I do short term to

> alleviate this pain. Vodka and grapefruit dont work either.

==>You are better of getting a pure white willow bark at the health

store - it won't do damage to your body but it will help with pain.

Also oil of oregano is just as powerful a pain killer as morphine,

but because it is antifungal you can't use much of it right now.

However, you can sniff the bottle.

< Also, should I just take the Nystatin and Fluconazol?

==>No, I suggest you stop taking them, and start on my diet and take

all of the supplements like I recommended above. Later you can take

the nystatin but not the Fluconazol.

> At this point, its not like I have anything to lose just because I

am not paying some educated idiot to monitor my blood and maybe give

me the results in a few months. Also, due to my teeth being removed,

I have lost 20 pounds since May 24th, I am kind of limited on what I

can eat, but a lot of eggs, soups pasta and fish. I dont see why that

would cause this sudden onset of pain, or is it possible that it is

the " die-off " from having my teeth yanked? Regaurdless, I would

appreciate your comments for short term relief.

==>You should not eat pasta my friend - re-check your whole diet

against my lists - see the handy lists in our Group's files (left

menu) in the Candida Diet Folder.

>

> PS sorry so long, but this has been one hell of a ride and is

awfully hard to condense.

==>No worries Ron. I highly recommend Bee's Raw Egg Drink, but as my

article states always start coconut oil and butter at low amounts

(they are both antifungal) and only gradually increase them every 4-5

days so your die-off symptoms aren't so severe - even nausea is a die-

off symptom. See the Group's file (left menu) for the Recipe Folder -

I think it is in with drinks.

==>Also do everything you can to detoxify - there's some information

in my main candida article " How to Successfully Overcome Candida " and

I wrote another one on how to detoxify effectively but I will have to

email you that article later. Did you know that good saturated fats

chelate out mercury and other heavy metals? I suggest you slather

the outside of your throat with butter and apply wet heat to it as

much as you can. Do not put a heating pad directly on, but you can

use a hot hand towel and put the heating pad over it.

==>Also start on vitamin C; get ascorbic acid crystals and baking

soda and mix them 50/50 - start with 4,000 mgs and take 1,000 mg

every hour until you reach bowel tolerance (loose stools), and then

back off a little on the amount. If you do not reach bowel tolerance

increase the dose 500 mg until you get loose stools. Keep increasing

the amount that causes bowel tolerance every 3 days to a higher

amount up to whatever your body can handle, which I suspect will be

around 20,000 mg per day or more. Do not ever stop taking large

amounts of vitamin C suddenly - gradually decrease it the same way

you increased it.

==>Also start on vitamin B complex and buy niacin (B3) separately.

You need to take 50 mg vit. B complex twice a day and also start with

50 mg niacin twice a day - ensure you do not buy the non-flushing

kind nor niacinamide because they won't help like " true " Niacin

(B3). Keep taking the same B complex every day, but increase the

niacin every 3-4 days by 50 mg - therefore on day 4 take 50 mg niacin

3 times a day; on day 8 take 100 mg twice a day and so on. You will

get a niacin flush which causes itching, tingling, redness and

flushing, particularly around the head, ears, face and neck. That's

a good thing and it is important for detoxifying and for oxygenating

the blood.

==>The other supplements are very important too so get started on

them as soon as you can. The whole program works together to give

your body what it needs to heal itself. At the same time do not push

your body too much. Except for the vitamin C and niacin treatments

above take the recommended doses of everything else.

I hope that gets you off to a good start Ron.

The best to you, Bee

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Hi Bee,

Thanks for the informative answer. I was reading your website for a couple

days prior to disconnection. Hopefully this can all be worked out shortly. I

have made a list of the things that I need per your recommendations, but I

can't find anything about the pau d arc tea. Is this a recipe or a

supplement that is available? Oh and you were right, the Nystatin suspension

is only a meager 50 % sucrose. Imagine that little detail.

Thanks, Ron

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> Hi Bee,

> I just joined your group and in the last couple of days I got a

lot of answers to a lot of questions. Mostly because it is very well

> organized. And thanks to UK Nick, he did a lot of research on that

> diet, I am going to work with that one.

==>Hi Ron. Wecome to our group.

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> Hi Bee,

>

> Thanks for the informative answer. I was reading your website for a

couple days prior to disconnection. Hopefully this can all be worked

out shortly. I have made a list of the things that I need per your

recommendations, but I can't find anything about the pau d arc tea.

Is this a recipe or a supplement that is available? Oh and you were

right, the Nystatin suspension is only a meager 50 % sucrose. Imagine

that little detail.

==>Pau D'Arco is a tea. You can purchase tea bags in most health

food stores which give the directions on the package. Or you can

find the raw Pau D'Arco bark that is made into a tea - the

instructions are in my main candida article. For more info on Pau

D'Arco see the groups files (left menu) and look for the Candida

Antifungal Folder. Pau D'Arco is also known as taheebo or L'Pacho.

Imagine putting 50% sucrose into a candida treatment? Did you know

that when antibiotics were first made into pills they were coated

with nystatin because they " knew " antibiotics caused candida

overgrowth?

Bee

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> i take up to 2 tablespoons of coconut oil at the time. about 1 hour

> later i always have enourmus stomach hurt and headdache for about 3

> hours. i´have not thought i get some die off only by coconut oil or i

> am false? the only thing i take at the moment among coconut oil is

> pea´d arco tea.

==>Yes, you can get die-off from that amount of coconut oil. Start

with 1 teaspoon 2-3 times a day and only gradually increase it by 1 tsp

every day to minimize die-off reactions. It is also better to have it

with meals that contain protein. Try Bee's Raw Egg Drink, which is in

the " C) Recipe " Folder in our Files - find it under Drinks.

Pau D'Arco tea is considered a mild antifungal but you might have to

start with less per day and only gradually increase it too. " More is

not better. " Allow time for your body to adjust to each increase,

otherwise you overwhelm it and you will have more symptoms.

Since the main focus should be towards building up the immune system,

even antifungals aren't that important, except coconut oil and butter

because they provide so many other health benefits in addition to being

antifungal.

The best to you, Bee

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Hi Dave, I felt compelled to reply to you. I took about three

tablespoons of coconut oil yesterday (just started the diet) and had

one of the worst nights of my life (am also daking Pau'arco tablets).

I (sorry to be specific) vomited the whole night! I could not

imagine my stomach to hold so much food. Was really an eye opener (or

shall I say stomach opener). From what I have been reading it looks

like it could be die-off or I over did it but I think coconut must be

so powerful that it should be approached with caution. Bee does say

start slowly. It feels great to have a falt belly though!

best wishes

Perihan

> i take up to 2 tablespoons of coconut oil at the time. about 1 hour

> later i always have enourmus stomach hurt and headdache for about 3

> hours. i´have not thought i get some die off only by coconut oil or i

> am false? the only thing i take at the moment among coconut oil is

> pea´d arco tea.

>

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> Hi Dave, I felt compelled to reply to you. I took about three

> tablespoons of coconut oil yesterday (just started the diet) and had

> one of the worst nights of my life (am also daking Pau'arco

tablets). I (sorry to be specific) vomited the whole night! I could

not imagine my stomach to hold so much food. Was really an eye

opener (or shall I say stomach opener). From what I have been

reading it looks like it could be die-off or I over did it but I

think coconut must be so powerful that it should be approached with

caution. Bee does say start slowly. It feels great to have a flat

belly though!

>

==>Hi Perihan. Wow, you had a really rough time with die-off. Yes,

it is so important to start with low doses and only gradually

increase them. Vomiting is one of the ways the body gets rid of

toxins.

Luv, Bee

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> hi:

>

> i've been very strict with the diet for a little less than a week and

> i can't tell if what i'm experiencing is die off or not. i don't feel

> like i have the flu or anything; however, i have horrible bloating and

> gas...my clothes barely fit. i'm fatiguing easier than usual. is

> this die off? and will it end soon? these are the reasons i went on

> the diet in the first place!

Hi there. What is your name please? Bloating, fatigue, gas, etc. are

also die-off symptoms. Candida produces carbon dioxide when it is

being killed off, which is gas. There are numerous symptoms caused by

candida, which occurs both when it is overgrowing and when it is being

killed off. To understand healing symptoms see this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

Here's a good article about fatigue and candida:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat10.php

The best to you, Bee

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Sorry, I forgot to answer your question about " how long such symptoms

last. " Since such symptoms are caused by the body working hard at

healing itself, how long they last is dependent upon a number of

factors:

1) How closely you follow the diet and take all of the supplements.

2) How long you've been unhealthy.

3) How much damage was done to your body by poor nutrition, candida,

and other illnesses, etc.

4) What your parents' " nutritional status " was upon your conception.

5) Your mother's diet and toxic levels while you were in the womb.

6) The levels of other types of toxins in your body.

There may be other factors as well. Healing naturally isn't pleasant

but it is necessary for the body to get through it in order to detoxify

and to re-build. Also, during natural healing the body will " retrace "

all previous illnesses, diseases, injuries, medical and dental

treatments, etc. according to Hering's Law of Cure:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_1_2.php

Getting well isn't a steady uphill climb toward health, where you feel

better and better everyday. It has its ups and downs, but as time goes

on your good days will increase and your bad days will decrease, and

eventually, if you follow this program, long enough, you won't have any

symptoms like me!

It took a long time for your body to get into this poor condition, and

it take 1 month of natural healing for every year you've been

unhealthy, which for most people nowadays is since they were conceived.

You have to decide for yourself whether you want to heal your body

naturally or not. It is very tough to do, but well worth it. You'll

also learn how to maintain your health life-long.

You are lucky, since you've discovered you have candida and can do

something about it, while other people are waking up one day with

cancer and have no hope.

For more information about the Natural Healing Process see these

wonderful articles:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_2.php

The best in health,

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Hello Cordell,

I've started on a candida diet around the 1st of june. I admit i've fell off the

wagon here & there but i've been feeling probaly just like you. Some days I feel

like I'm on death's bed. I've been getting pains I've never had before muscle

spasms, muscle twitches, muscle aches,headaches, jaw aches,mood swings, etc. I

think you get my point. I started on the candida diet when suddenly i seemed to

have acid reflux after a year of being on antibotics alot.

It's been very hard especially since I have a 5yr old & 18 month old baby. I

feel really bad for them because its hard for me to be the mother I want to be

to them right now.

I'm right there with you on how your feeling. I guess it takes time & how bad

& how long you've had candida to start to feel good again & get past all the die

off symptoms.

Apri Rain

>

> Hello group,

>

> Well, I faithfully started the " Candida diet " that Bee so graciously shared

with us about two days ago. So far, it seems to be doing something good for me.

I'll give a little history as to the reason I started this regimen.

>

> For about a year now I have suffered from indigestion (bloating, gas, stomach

cramps and the like) that just seemed to get worse and worse and worse. Every

day I live in focus on it because it's just so aggravating and debilitating. My

stomach gets what I believe to be " herniated " almost all the time, even when not

eating, and causes my heart to sometimes race, my blood pressure to go whacky

when I stand up, and gives me trouble breathing.

>

> I learned one technique to keep the hiatal hernia down, which was to gently

massage from my sternum down to my belly button while flexing my ab muscles.

Although this gives temporary relief, the problem always seemed to reoccur.

There is often cramping all through my stomach, and I randomly get constipated.

>

> So anyway, after trying many different " cleanses " , raw food diet, and even

fasting to no avail, I luckily stumbled across Bee's page on Candida. I had

heard about Candida before, when reading about parasites, but never quite knew

just how serious it could be, and that it might just be the cause of all my

digestive issues.

>

> So I'm on day 3 of the Candida cleanse. But I have to say, there are moments

where I feel really sick, and extremely fatigued... like death basically. I'm

hoping, and believe, that this is die-off. Does anyone else get this feeling? Do

things really get worse before they get better? There are other moments of

course where I feel like I have lots of energy and focus. But I'm getting all

kinds of weird feelings ie. mood swings, tingling, weird pains in different

parts of my body, weird feelings in my head and eyes and the list goes on.

>

> From what I've read this is most likely what is called die-off. But I guess I

just need some validation and some encouragement to continue on with this diet.

It definately isn't easy...

>

> Thanks for taking the time to read this lengthy message.

>

> Regards,

>

> Cordell r

>

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> Hello group,

>

> Well, I faithfully started the " Candida diet " that Bee so graciously shared

with us about two days ago. So far, it seems to be doing something good for me.

I'll give a little history as to the reason I started this regimen.

+++Hi Cordell. Welcome to our group. Congratulations on starting my candida

diet!

>

> For about a year now I have suffered from indigestion (bloating, gas, stomach

cramps and the like) that just seemed to get worse and worse and worse. Every

day I live in focus on it because it's just so aggravating and debilitating. My

stomach gets what I believe to be " herniated " almost all the time, even when not

eating, and causes my heart to sometimes race, my blood pressure to go whacky

when I stand up, and gives me trouble breathing.

>

> I learned one technique to keep the hiatal hernia down, which was to gently

massage from my sternum down to my belly button while flexing my ab muscles.

Although this gives temporary relief, the problem always seemed to reoccur.

There is often cramping all through my stomach, and I randomly get constipated.

+++That's great you are able to adjust your hiatal hernia yourself. I also had

it, along with severe acid reflux, stomach ulcers, cramps, gas, bloating, etc.

until I cured my candida over 20 years ago.

>

> So anyway, after trying many different " cleanses " , raw food diet, and even

fasting to no avail, I luckily stumbled across Bee's page on Candida. I had

heard about Candida before, when reading about parasites, but never quite knew

just how serious it could be, and that it might just be the cause of all my

digestive issues.

+++That's good you found my website!

>

> So I'm on day 3 of the Candida cleanse. But I have to say, there are moments

where I feel really sick, and extremely fatigued... like death basically. I'm

hoping, and believe, that this is die-off. Does anyone else get this feeling? Do

things really get worse before they get better?

+++Your symptoms are typical die-off/detoxifying symptoms, and yes they can get

worse before they get better. Many symptoms will also come and go during the

healing process, in addition to your body " retracing " all previous symptoms,

illnesses, diseases, organ malfunctions, injuries, etc. - see these two articles

to understand more about the healing processes:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

There are other moments of course where I feel like I have lots of energy and

focus. But I'm getting all kinds of weird feelings ie. mood swings, tingling,

weird pains in different parts of my body, weird feelings in my head and eyes

and the list goes on.

+++Those are all typical symptoms. Many people experience emotional ups and

downs too, which is explained in that 2nd article above.

>

> From what I've read this is most likely what is called die-off. But I guess I

just need some validation and some encouragement to continue on with this diet.

It definately isn't easy...

+++You can be assured that your body will heal itself the way Nature intended IF

you continue on this program long enough. Please ensure you are taking all of

the supplements too, since the diet and supplements work together.

+++Be sure to follow the steps recommended in Curing Candida, How to Get

Started: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

+++For encouragement and inspiration see these wonderful Success Stories by

members of this group: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

The best in health, Bee

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