Re: Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney!

[Guest guest]

You can obviously see a lawyer to get professional advice. But I don't think you can sue someone for enforcing the rules. Most schools serve the people living in their district. If you go to another district, you would have to pay a fee. And not all schools accept out of district students. It would be harder, I think, for a special needs student to transfer because it's going to cost them more money to provide services.

I would not want to circumvent the rules to get my kid into a school. If you move to another district, then you can put him in another school, obviously.

Roxanna

"I

predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson

( ) Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney!

Hello,

Most of you know my son Ashton and me as well as our situation. I wrote a month or so ago about condescending emails from my sons teacher! After careful consideration we have decided to pull our boys from the district and move them to another district....

Boy that sounds soooo easy HOWEVER the principal (I have a better name for her but I will control my tendencies:) has decided to sabotage us in every way! We live in an area where there is only one district, we would like to move our boys to another the problem is it is the law now that we have to physically LIVE in the district, We have gone to 2 different districts and tried to put our kids in (we have family in those districts) WELL she thinks she is queen and has called each district once the records release has gotten to them and told them we do not live in those districts thus making us have to prove we do!!! SERIOUSLY??? she is going to do everything she can to MAKE us go back....I WILL NEVER STEP FOOT THERE EVER AGAIN!!! isnt this technically harrassment??

We are going to move in with my parents in the area of a school and then live in our beach home on the weekends (its a home that has been in the family for years and we dont pay an outrageous rent amount)

I have every intention on hiring an attorney for what she has done with my son and the drive is EVEN LARGER at this point...can anyone guide me in the direction I need to go??

Thank you

PS

my next step would have been homeschool as I would like to see her stop me then!!!!

[Guest guest]

You should ask the dept of education to investigate the school, to make a complaint regarding the school to the dept of education. Also complaint to the federaction of special needs, and hire a special need lawyer.

( ) Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney! Hello, Most of you know my son Ashton and me as well as our situation. I wrote a month or so ago about condescending emails from my sons teacher! After careful consideration we have decided to pull our boys from the district and move them to another district....Boy that sounds soooo easy HOWEVER the principal (I have a better name for her but I will control my tendencies:) has decided to sabotage us in every way! We live in an area where there is only one district, we would like to move our boys to another the problem is it is the law now that we have to physically LIVE in the district, We have gone to 2 different districts and tried to put our kids in (we have family in those districts) WELL she thinks she is queen and has called each district once the records release has gotten to them and told them we do not live in those districts thus making us have to prove we do!!! SERIOUSLY??? she is going to do everything she can to MAKE us go back....I WILL NEVER STEP FOOT THERE EVER AGAIN!!! isnt this technically harrassment?? We are going to move in with my parents in the area of a school and then live in our beach home on the weekends (its a home that has been in the family for years and we dont pay an outrageous rent amount) I have every intention on hiring an attorney for what she has done with my son and the drive is EVEN LARGER at this point...can anyone guide me in the direction I need to go??Thank you PSmy next step would have been homeschool as I would like to see her stop me then!!!!

[Guest guest]

Check out wrightslaw.com

I'm sorry you're going through this.

[Guest guest]

Roxanna,

I agree that I would not want to circumvent to try to get into another district,

but this part of your comment, " It would be harder, I think, for a special needs

student to transfer because it's going to cost them more money to provide

services " is not correct. It is the law, I believe, that a district cannot deny

acceptance of a student based on a disability or an IEP because of money. It's

just not legal.

That being said, there are other ideas for Raina. Homeschooling was one she

mentioned. There are also other private schools.

I do think consulting an attorney to see what they think is a good idea.

The statement above was not meant to frustrate you; just to clarify that portion

of what you said.

Thanks. Leah

Roxanna

> " I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the governmen---

In , Roxanna <MadIdeas@...> wrote:

>

> You can obviously see a lawyer to get professional advice. But I don't think

you can sue someone for enforcing the rules. Most schools serve the people

living in their district. If you go to another district, you would have to pay

a fee. And not all schools accept out of district students. It would be

harder, I think, for a special needs student to transfer because it's going to

cost them more money to provide services.

>

> I would not want to circumvent the rules to get my kid into a school. If you

move to another district, then you can put him in another school, obviously.

>

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[Guest guest]

Did you read the original email? You think it's harrassment for the principal to say you don't live where you're trying to enroll your children in school? It's against the law to lie about where you live to get your kid into a different school. I haven't seen anything illegal here. In my opinion, it would be a huge waste of money to hire attorneys..

From: "tfitzge134@..." <tfitzge134@...> Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 7:48:46 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney!

You should ask the dept of education to investigate the school, to make a complaint regarding the school to the dept of education. Also complaint to the federaction of special needs, and hire a special need lawyer.

( ) Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney! Hello, Most of you know my son Ashton and me as well as our situation. I wrote a month or so ago about condescending emails from my sons teacher! After careful consideration we have decided to pull our boys from the district and move them to another district....Boy that sounds soooo easy HOWEVER the principal (I have a better name

for her but I will control my tendencies:) has decided to sabotage us in every way! We live in an area where there is only one district, we would like to move our boys to another the problem is it is the law now that we have to physically LIVE in the district, We have gone to 2 different districts and tried to put our kids in (we have family in those districts) WELL she thinks she is queen and has called each district once the records release has gotten to them and told them we do not live in those districts thus making us have to prove we do!!! SERIOUSLY??? she is going to do everything she can to MAKE us go back....I WILL NEVER STEP FOOT THERE EVER AGAIN!!! isnt this technically harrassment?? We are going to move in with my parents in the area of a school and then live in our beach home on the weekends (its a home that has been in the family for years and we dont pay an outrageous rent amount) I have every intention on hiring an

attorney for what she has done with my son and the drive is EVEN LARGER at this point...can anyone guide me in the direction I need to go??Thank you PSmy next step would have been homeschool as I would like to see her stop me then!!!!

[Guest guest]

Just for some info - if you wait until February (don't know the exact dates, but it's for 2 weeks) - then you can apply for "School Choice". Get the paperwork from the District you'd like them to go to and they will tell you all the rules.

We did this with a Virtual School.

Good Luck.

Robin

PEOPLE MAY NOT REMEMBER EXACTLY

WHAT YOU DID OR WHAT YOU SAID,

BUT THEY WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER

HOW YOU MADE THEM FEEL

From: MacAllister <smacalli@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney! Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 8:52 AM

Did you read the original email? You think it's harrassment for the principal to say you don't live where you're trying to enroll your children in school? It's against the law to lie about where you live to get your kid into a different school. I haven't seen anything illegal here. In my opinion, it would be a huge waste of money to hire attorneys..

From: "tfitzge134@..." <tfitzge134@...> Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 7:48:46 AMSubject: Re: ( ) Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney!

You should ask the dept of education to investigate the school, to make a complaint regarding the school to the dept of education. Also complaint to the federaction of special needs, and hire a special need lawyer.

( ) Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney! Hello, Most of you know my son Ashton and me as well as our situation. I wrote a month or so ago about condescending emails from my sons teacher! After careful consideration we have decided to pull our boys from the district and move them to another district....Boy that sounds soooo easy HOWEVER the principal (I have a better name

for her but I will control my tendencies:) has decided to sabotage us in every way! We live in an area where there is only one district, we would like to move our boys to another the problem is it is the law now that we have to physically LIVE in the district, We have gone to 2 different districts and tried to put our kids in (we have family in those districts) WELL she thinks she is queen and has called each district once the records release has gotten to them and told them we do not live in those districts thus making us have to prove we do!!! SERIOUSLY??? she is going to do everything she can to MAKE us go back....I WILL NEVER STEP FOOT THERE EVER AGAIN!!! isnt this technically harrassment?? We are going to move in with my parents in the area of a school and then live in our beach home on the weekends (its a home that has been in the family for years and we dont pay an outrageous rent amount) I have every intention on hiring an

attorney for what she has done with my son and the drive is EVEN LARGER at this point...can anyone guide me in the direction I need to go??Thank you PSmy next step would have been homeschool as I would like to see her stop me then!!!!

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure what program you are referring to. Here in my state, you can have school choice if you attend an under-performing school. And in some places, you can't automatically transfer into a school unless they have the space available (if it's outside your own district.) Definitely find out the details.

Roxanna

"I

predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson

Re: ( ) Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney!

You should ask the dept of education to investigate the school, to make a complaint regarding the school to the dept of education. Also complaint to the federaction of special needs, and hire a special need lawyer.

( ) Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney!

Hello,

Most of you know my son Ashton and me as well as our situation. I wrote a month or so ago about condescending emails from my sons teacher! After careful consideration we have decided to pull our boys from the district and move them to another district....

Boy that sounds soooo easy HOWEVER the principal (I have a better name

for her but I will control my tendencies:) has decided to sabotage us in every way! We live in an area where there is only one district, we would like to move our boys to another the problem is it is the law now that we have to physically LIVE in the district, We have gone to 2 different districts and tried to put our kids in (we have family in those districts) WELL she thinks she is queen and has called each district once the records release has gotten to them and told them we do not live in those districts thus making us have to prove we do!!! SERIOUSLY??? she is going to do everything she can to MAKE us go back....I WILL NEVER STEP FOOT THERE EVER AGAIN!!! isnt this technically harrassment??

We are going to move in with my parents in the area of a school and then live in our beach home on the weekends (its a home that has been in the family for years and we dont pay an outrageous rent amount)

I have every intention on hiring an

attorney for what she has done with my son and the drive is EVEN LARGER at this point...can anyone guide me in the direction I need to go??

Thank you

PS

my next step would have been homeschool as I would like to see her stop me then!!!!

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure why you'd think I was frustrated. I am not the one trying to slide past the rules. And I don't agree. If you have schools with a transfer policy, I still think it would be harder to move a sped student. many times, admittance is based on spots available and I doubt there are a lot of open spots for sped kids since they are all individualized and cost money. If you mean your own district, obviously, they have to take all students, regardless of needs. But when you transfer, a lot of times they can pick and choose. We have inter-district open enrollment here and they don't have to take any students. If you want to go to a different school within our district, you have to apply and see if they have room. I can't see them lining up to take a student who will cost them money unless they have places available in an existing program.

Roxanna

"I

predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson

Re: ( ) Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney!

Roxanna,

I agree that I would not want to circumvent to try to get into another district, but this part of your comment, "It would be harder, I think, for a special needs student to transfer because it's going to cost them more money to provide services" is not correct. It is the law, I believe, that a district cannot deny acceptance of a student based on a disability or an IEP because of money. It's just not legal.

That being said, there are other ideas for Raina. Homeschooling was one she mentioned. There are also other private schools.

I do think consulting an attorney to see what they think is a good idea.

The statement above was not meant to frustrate you; just to clarify that portion of what you said.

Thanks. Leah

Roxanna

> "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the governmen

>

> You can obviously see a lawyer to get professional advice. But I don't think you can sue someone for enforcing the rules. Most schools serve the people living in their district. If you go to another district, you would have to pay a fee. And not all schools accept out of district students. It would be harder, I think, for a special needs student to transfer because it's going to cost them more money to provide services.

>

> I would not want to circumvent the rules to get my kid into a school. If you move to another district, then you can put him in another school, obviously.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I feel like I need to clarify, ok We are now IN district as we packed up our 6

boys and moved in with my parents in a tiny 2 bedroom house till we can find

something else, just so we could be in the district and not get into

trouble...The principal is still insisting we live at our beach home when in

fact my husband is just staying there 3 days a week while he works close to that

home.. We had no choice as the old school was denying my son an education, as

even with a 299.0 diagnosis of ASD they felt he did not need to be evaluated and

when in meltdown mode (head down on desk) they would call me to come and get him

and told me they did not have anyone educated on how to deal with him and that

he was basically unteachable...he is first grade and incredibly behind..missed

45 days of kinder last year.....SEE why I so desperately wanted to move

instead of the principla calling me and asking what they could do to get all 5

kids back in her school she resorted to slandering me as well as calling and

making up all out lies about my son to the new district as well as said we were

not living there and in fact had spies drive by (the woman is relentless)

At our district in WA state kids with special needs get the school MORE funding

so in fact in benefits them to take the SPED kids.

I am happy to report that today was ashtons first day of school and when I

walked in the door the principal, SPED teacher, his teacher (a good friend of

mine) and the superintendent...We had a meeting and discussed a plan of action

as he was very disturbed at the old district and how ashton was sooo terribly

neglected! We are testing him tomorrow with the SPED teacher to see where he is

then Friday meeting wtih the school psychologist and start Eval next week! OMG I

got accomplished in one day and then some what our old school could NOT do in a

year and a half!!!!

> >

> > You can obviously see a lawyer to get professional advice. But I don't

think you can sue someone for enforcing the rules. Most schools serve the

people living in their district. If you go to another district, you would have

to pay a fee. And not all schools accept out of district students. It would be

harder, I think, for a special needs student to transfer because it's going to

cost them more money to provide services.

> >

> > I would not want to circumvent the rules to get my kid into a school. If

you move to another district, then you can put him in another school, obviously.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Raina,

I don’t have specific advice for

you, just some support. We took have a horrible district and in my case

the Principal of our problem school has family all through our district, so

like yours she spread the word. I am about to hire an attorney too I

think. Fincances are holding me back though =(

My first thought (and this may be

different in other states) but here in Mass we can do a “choice”

and go out of district but then each other school can limit the amount of out

of district placements they accept and they do not have to transport. I

am guessing you don’t have that option there?

You are lucky to be able to move in with

parents and you are a good mom to not allow them to push you around.

Although I did not read the string on the condescending emails from teacher, I

saw them and shook my head. I have been in crisis with mys on, so I have

been unable to read/reply to much on here. So I apologize for not being

able to read that which went prior to this.

Hang in there momma bear!

Denel

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Raina

Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010

4:58 PM

Subject: ( ) Who to

turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney!

Hello,

Most of you know my son Ashton and me as well as our situation. I wrote a month

or so ago about condescending emails from my sons teacher! After careful

consideration we have decided to pull our boys from the district and move them

to another district....

Boy that sounds soooo easy HOWEVER the principal (I have a better name for her

but I will control my tendencies:) has decided to sabotage us in every way! We

live in an area where there is only one district, we would like to move our

boys to another the problem is it is the law now that we have to physically

LIVE in the district, We have gone to 2 different districts and tried to put

our kids in (we have family in those districts) WELL she thinks she is queen

and has called each district once the records release has gotten to them and

told them we do not live in those districts thus making us have to prove we

do!!! SERIOUSLY??? she is going to do everything she can to MAKE us go

back....I WILL NEVER STEP FOOT THERE EVER AGAIN!!! isnt this technically harrassment??

We are going to move in with my parents in the area of a school and then live

in our beach home on the weekends (its a home that has been in the family for

years and we dont pay an outrageous rent amount)

I have every intention on hiring an attorney for what she has done with my son

and the drive is EVEN LARGER at this point...can anyone guide me in the

direction I need to go??

Thank you

PS

my next step would have been homeschool as I would like to see her stop me

then!!!!

[Guest guest]

Federation of Children with Special Needs

http://fcsn.org/index.php

When I called the Federation couple days

ago asking about attorneys she referred me to the below: Keep in mind this is Mass.

they will tell you to look up things like

http://www.massadvocates.org/about.php

And they also give the Disability Law

Center out too – if you

qualify they take it on ProBono. This is the one in Mass

http://www.dlc-ma.org/

Denel

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of tfitzge134@...

Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010

8:49 AM

Subject: Re: ( )

Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney!

You should ask the dept of education to

investigate the school, to make a complaint regarding the school to the dept of

education. Also complaint to the federaction of special needs, and hire a

special need lawyer.

( ) Who to turn to...being harrassed by school

district...want to hire attorney!

Hello,

Most of you know my son Ashton and me as well as our situation. I

wrote a month or so ago about condescending emails from my sons teacher! After

careful consideration we have decided to pull our boys from the district and

move them to another district....

Boy that sounds soooo easy HOWEVER the principal (I have a better name for her

but I will control my tendencies:) has decided to sabotage us in every way! We

live in an area where there is only one district, we would like to move our

boys to another the problem is it is the law now that we have to physically LIVE

in the district, We have gone to 2 different districts and tried to put our

kids in (we have family in those districts) WELL she thinks she is queen and

has called each district once the records release has gotten to them and told

them we do not live in those districts thus making us have to prove we do!!!

SERIOUSLY??? she is going to do everything she can to MAKE us go back....I WILL

NEVER STEP FOOT THERE EVER AGAIN!!! isnt this technically harrassment??

We are going to move in with my parents in the area of a school and then live

in our beach home on the weekends (its a home that has been in the family for

years and we dont pay an outrageous rent amount)

I have every intention on hiring an attorney for what she has done with my son

and the drive is EVEN LARGER at this point...can anyone guide me in the

direction I need to go??

Thank you

PS

my next step would have been homeschool as I would like to see her stop me

then!!!!

[Guest guest]

This is great news and I hope to hear

continued good things! Hopefully you are on the right track finally.

Denel

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Raina

Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010

1:00 AM

Subject: Re: ( )

Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney!

I feel like I need to clarify, ok We are now IN

district as we packed up our 6 boys and moved in with my parents in a tiny 2

bedroom house till we can find something else, just so we could be in the

district and not get into trouble...The principal is still insisting we live at

our beach home when in fact my husband is just staying there 3 days a week

while he works close to that home.. We had no choice as the old school was

denying my son an education, as even with a 299.0 diagnosis of ASD they felt he

did not need to be evaluated and when in meltdown mode (head down on desk) they

would call me to come and get him and told me they did not have anyone educated

on how to deal with him and that he was basically unteachable...he is first

grade and incredibly behind..missed 45 days of kinder last year.....SEE why I

so desperately wanted to move

instead of the principla calling me and asking what they could do to get all 5

kids back in her school she resorted to slandering me as well as calling and

making up all out lies about my son to the new district as well as said we were

not living there and in fact had spies drive by (the woman is relentless)

At our district in WA state kids with special needs get the school MORE funding

so in fact in benefits them to take the SPED kids.

I am happy to report that today was ashtons first day of school and when I

walked in the door the principal, SPED teacher, his teacher (a good friend of

mine) and the superintendent...We had a meeting and discussed a plan of action

as he was very disturbed at the old district and how ashton was sooo terribly

neglected! We are testing him tomorrow with the SPED teacher to see where he is

then Friday meeting wtih the school psychologist and start Eval next week! OMG

I got accomplished in one day and then some what our old school could NOT do in

a year and a half!!!!

> >

> > You can obviously see a lawyer to get professional advice. But I

don't think you can sue someone for enforcing the rules. Most schools serve the

people living in their district. If you go to another district, you would have

to pay a fee. And not all schools accept out of district students. It would be harder,

I think, for a special needs student to transfer because it's going to cost

them more money to provide services.

> >

> > I would not want to circumvent the rules to get my kid into a school.

If you move to another district, then you can put him in another school,

obviously.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

In all states, they get funding for sped kids. But it does not benefit them to take sped kids at all - this is not a money maker. This is because they only get a percentage of the cost to educate these kids. The gov't is only funding a percentage of the mandates for sped. They would also have to show that they are providing services for the kids they are getting funding for. So this is not something they are making money on, and they are not begging sped kids to move in a district anywhere.

If you moved, then move the kids to the new school and be done with the evil principal. She can complain all she wants but once you have moved to another district, she is going to be out of the picture. I don't know why she would be arguing. you'd think she would be glad to have you all out of her hair.

Roxanna

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson

Re: ( ) Who to turn to...being harrassed by school district...want to hire attorney!

I feel like I need to clarify, ok We are now IN district as we packed up our 6 boys and moved in with my parents in a tiny 2 bedroom house till we can find something else, just so we could be in the district and not get into trouble...The principal is still insisting we live at our beach home when in fact my husband is just staying there 3 days a week while he works close to that home.. We had no choice as the old school was denying my son an education, as even with a 299.0 diagnosis of ASD they felt he did not need to be evaluated and when in meltdown mode (head down on desk) they would call me to come and get him and told me they did not have anyone educated on how to deal with him and that he was basically unteachable...he is first grade and incredibly behind..missed 45 days of kinder last year.....SEE why I so desperately wanted to move

instead of the principla calling me and asking what they could do to get all 5 kids back in her school she resorted to slandering me as well as calling and making up all out lies about my son to the new district as well as said we were not living there and in fact had spies drive by (the woman is relentless)

At our district in WA state kids with special needs get the school MORE funding so in fact in benefits them to take the SPED kids.

I am happy to report that today was ashtons first day of school and when I walked in the door the principal, SPED teacher, his teacher (a good friend of mine) and the superintendent...We had a meeting and discussed a plan of action as he was very disturbed at the old district and how ashton was sooo terribly neglected! We are testing him tomorrow with the SPED teacher to see where he is then Friday meeting wtih the school psychologist and start Eval next week! OMG I got accomplished in one day and then some what our old school could NOT do in a year and a half!!!!

> >

> > You can obviously see a lawyer to get professional advice. But I don't think you can sue someone for enforcing the rules. Most schools serve the people living in their district. If you go to another district, you would have to pay a fee. And not all schools accept out of district students. It would be harder, I think, for a special needs student to transfer because it's going to cost them more money to provide services.

> >

> > I would not want to circumvent the rules to get my kid into a school. If you move to another district, then you can put him in another school, obviously.

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