Guest guest Posted December 22, 2000 Report Share Posted December 22, 2000 I just finished my first can of Jarrow Th1 Probiotic. I had been pretty well, not herx'ing anymore, but as I took it I got worse again. It's hard often to isolate what is causing what, but I wonder if that could mean my Th1 is improving, and I am actually fighting again? I feel like I did when I was first sick, the flu-like stuff (like the earlier stages per Cheney's stages of CFIDS). Unlike herx'ing, it's often not right after an antibiotic. Cindi " " <clemjk@...> 12/22/00 11:56 AM Please respond to egroups cc: Subject: Good Probiotic Does anyone know of a good probiotic that does not have S. Thermophils in it? I am on an antibiotic protocol and am starting to have some candida problems. I had to stop using a good probiotic by Kal that kept the candida in check because it has S Thermophilus in it. I found out that you are not supposed to take anything with this particular strain of bacteria due to an upregulation effect that it has on the Th2 side of your immune system. I have ordered Jarrow's new Th1 probiotic and will let everyone know how it works when I try it. But I would like to know of other good probiotics in case it does not work well. This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2000 Report Share Posted December 23, 2000 Hi et al, My nutritionist put me on Culturelle (www.culturelle.com) and HMF Forte (www.smartbasics.com) because they are microorganisms which are native to the human g.i. tract. They were very helpful, but the one which was the most helpful was one which I found on an autism protocol site (I can't find the address right now, but it was by a Dr. and is worth finding). Primal Defense is the name of the probiotic and it is a different kind called homeostatic soil organisms. This really helped my food allergies and digestive problems. You can find out a lot about it by typing the name into your favorite search engine. None of the above contains S Thermophilis. Bonnie B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2000 Report Share Posted December 26, 2000 Hi Bonnie, Thanks for the info on the probiotics. I wanted to ask what dosages you have used with the primal defense. Did you start out slowly and work your way up. How many do you take daily now? thanks > Hi et al, > > My nutritionist put me on Culturelle (www.culturelle.com) and HMF Forte > (www.smartbasics.com) because they are microorganisms which are native > to the human g.i. tract. They were very helpful, but the one which was > the most helpful was one which I found on an autism protocol site (I > can't find the address right now, but it was by a Dr. and is worth > finding). Primal Defense is the name of the probiotic and it is a > different kind called homeostatic soil organisms. This really helped my > food allergies and digestive problems. You can find out a lot about it > by typing the name into your favorite search engine. > > None of the above contains S Thermophilis. > > Bonnie B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 , I'm also taking a probiotic, Probiotic 14, from NEEDS that contains S. Thermophilis. Could you please give me a reference regarding your claim about this bacteria upregulating Th2. My wife, who has FMS, is also taking this product. Thanks. Bill Good Probiotic | Does anyone know of a good probiotic that does not have S. | Thermophils in it? I am on an antibiotic protocol and am starting to | have some candida problems. I had to stop using a good probiotic by | Kal that kept the candida in check because it has S Thermophilus in | it. I found out that you are not supposed to take anything with this | particular strain of bacteria due to an upregulation effect that it | has on the Th2 side of your immune system. I have ordered Jarrow's | new Th1 probiotic and will let everyone know how it works when I try | it. But I would like to know of other good probiotics in case it | does not work well. | | | | This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Hi Bill, I initially came across this in on of Keep Hope Alive's news letters. Go to http://www.execpc.com/~keephope/phn.html and click on report # 19. Jarrow's TH1 probiotic is working well for me. I also take there Jarrow Dophilus in powder form as well. I like these probiotics because they are well balanced and do not contain any organisms that would stimulate th2. I believe I recently read that 80% of our immunity comes from the gut( can't quote the source right now). So its important to establish and maintain the right flora--ones that will keep the immune system in balance. There are other more potent probiotics like Primal Defense or Natures Biotics. These contain soil based organisms that are transient and don't normally live in the colon. For now I like the results I have gotten with the jarrow formulas. You can purchase both of these probiotics cheaply at www.webvitamins.com . I believe they even carry the Primal Defense. I have no financial interest in any of these products or webvtamins. > , > > I'm also taking a probiotic, Probiotic 14, from NEEDS that contains S. > Thermophilis. Could you please give me a reference regarding your claim > about this bacteria upregulating Th2. My wife, who has FMS, is also taking > this product. > > Thanks. Bill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 , athan, There are so many of the Jarrows probiotics , what exactly are the name and strength you are taking. Id like to try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Hi, I am currently taking JARRO-DOPHILUS + FOS in the 2.5 oz powder. Its more economical than the Jarro-dophilus + FOS capsules. I am also taking the Jarrow TH1 Probiotic. It comes in powder form as well. I'm on antibiotics but these have really helped control yeast overgrowth. Several weeks ago I ordered some Primal Defense but on trying it I became slightly dizzy and nauseated. This has happened twice with the P. Defense but never with even large doses of the other probiotics. It is supposed to be a very strong transient probiotic. I will try it again maybe next week. It is possible I have a parasite problem as well. Anyone know what is most prescribed for parasites (both prescription and non-presription? Thanks > , athan, There are so many of the Jarrows probiotics , what > exactly are the name and strength you are taking. Id like to try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 > > Bee, > > Can you recomend a good probiotic? Every probiotic I've looked at > either contains wheat, milk products, or maltodextrin. > ++Hi Vern. I live in Canada so I buy Trophic brand Non-Dairy Acidophilus, but it also contains maltodextrin - I don't think it could be very much, since the label states it is free-of yeast, wheat, soy, gluten, sugar, dairy, and artificial colours or preservatives. I suggest you post another message with your Country in the Subject Line to get other members to help you out. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'm looking for a probiotic that does not contain wheat, maltodextrin, milk, FOS, or Inulin. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm in the U.S. I've looked through close to 25 brands and they all have it. Maybe they have to have one for the bacteria to survive. Is cabbage reluvalac just as good as any probiotic? Vern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Hi Vern, What about this? http://www.giprohealth.com/scdophilusnext.aspx " A Certified Dairy Free LACTOBACILLUS ACIDOPHILUS Dairy-free and Gluten-free Vegetarian Plant Cellulose Base Free of Maltodextrin, Inulin and FOS " > > I'm looking for a probiotic that does not contain wheat, maltodextrin, > milk, FOS, or Inulin. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm in the U.S. > > I've looked through close to 25 brands and they all have it. Maybe they > have to have one for the bacteria to survive. > > Is cabbage reluvalac just as good as any probiotic? > > Vern > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 I get my probiotics at http://www.customprobiotics.com/. The CP-1 formula " is a proprietary blend of five highly viable strains of live microorganisms, with a total count of 50 billion Lactobacilli and Bifidobacteria per capsule... " The strains are L. acidophilus, L. rhamnosus, L. plantarum, B. lactis, B. bifidum. Other ingredients: Microcrystalline cellulose, gelatin capsules, magnesium stearate, silica. Does NOT contain FOS, wheat, dairy, artificial colors, flavors, preservatives, sugar, soy. Good luck on your search! > > I'm looking for a probiotic that does not contain wheat, maltodextrin, > milk, FOS, or Inulin. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm in the U.S. > > I've looked through close to 25 brands and they all have it. Maybe they > have to have one for the bacteria to survive. > > Is cabbage reluvalac just as good as any probiotic? > > Vern > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 > > I'm looking for a probiotic that does not contain wheat, maltodextrin, > milk, FOS, or Inulin. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm in the U.S. > > I've looked through close to 25 brands and they all have it. Maybe they > have to have one for the bacteria to survive. > > Is cabbage reluvalac just as good as any probiotic? > Hi Vern. Cabbage rejuvelac is better than any processed probiotic! Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 > Hi Vern. Cabbage rejuvelac is better than any processed probiotic! > > Bee Bee, Should I assume that cabbage rejuvelac is the only probiotic necessary and that a processed probiotic is not necessary? Vern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 > > > Hi Vern. Cabbage rejuvelac is better than any processed probiotic! > > > > Bee > > Bee, > > Should I assume that cabbage rejuvelac is the only probiotic necessary > and that a processed probiotic is not necessary? Hi Vern. Yes you can assume that. You only require cabbage rejuvelac and no other probiotic. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Hello Currently I am giving probiotic called Therbiotic complete from Klaire labs and I would like to switch to a different one. I am looking for something that is equally good as the above ( which is 100 billion CFUs for 1/4th of tea spoon). Any suggestions or recommendations are greatly appreciated. Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Almost a year. From: Keeper <robin1208msn (DOT) com <mailto:robin1208% 40msn.com> > Subject: Re: Good Probiotic <mailto:EnzymesandA utism%40gro ups.com> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 10:16 AM what's your complaint with this one that you want to change? linda rn Good Probiotic Hello Currently I am giving probiotic called Therbiotic complete from Klaire labs and I would like to switch to a different one. I am looking for something that is equally good as the above ( which is 100 billion CFUs for 1/4th of tea spoon). Any suggestions or recommendations are greatly appreciated. Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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