Re: Question about RTI's......

[Guest guest]

Robin is your child on medication for the ADD? might help make life at school

(and anywhere) less stressful for the poor kid. geo

- ( ) Question about RTI's......

Hi,

 

Okay, well, I'm probably asking a question that has been asked before, but until

now, it didn't pertain to me.......so here goes.

One of my kids,,,,not AS, but processing issues and ADD,,,, is still struggling

(4th grade) with spelling, math, everything, really.  He's better than he

was,,,,but it seems that he's always been about 2 years behind where he is. 

Know what I mean?

Well,,,,,,someone suggested requesting an RTI for him.

I've Googled it but would really love some input from people who've used it,

requested it, etc.  The good, the bad and the ugly....ha ha.

What is the best way to request it?  I've always had a good relationship with

the teacher and most of the school, so this doesn't' have to get nasty, but I

also see that it's very easy to get " pushed aside " and

" poo-poo'd " ...............so they don't have to do things. 

 

Anyway, thanks.  Oh....he does NOT have an IEP.  They've always just moved him

to the front and said that they understand him.  Try to explain more, etc. 

But, so far,,,,he's only been in the State Reading program which was only

through 2nd grade.  He's also been given the teacher in each grade that has

more experience with all kinds of issues. 

 

Thanks again.

It really is simple.  Just treat others kindly and with respect.

Robin

[Guest guest]

I hope someone responds to your question about RTI .

I would propose you take concrete steps to get your child an IEP. I would put in

writing that you would like a nueropsych evaluation done (at the schools cost).

These tests are so concrete in finding excecutive function disorders (like

attentional issues, organization, planning). If they won't

then you can have it done. You just don't want to wait until they are in

middle school and their self esteem is shot. It takes so long

to advocate for IEP. If you start now you may have it in place

by 6th grade.

My niece is 16 and has struggled with attentional issues. When she

hit high school she started failing classes. The school sat by and predicted she

would be a drop out. Now she is in school refusal mode and her self esteem is

shot. I have been helping the parents (my in laws) trying to get the school to

pay for the neuropych test it will prove she is not lazy (the schools view).

Once they get to middle school and high school credits need to be earned to move

forward. There is no time to waste in the upper grades.

School have to follow IEPs as you know.

There is no reason to get on the schools bad side. You do everything

by the book step by step with advocacy and be reasonable parents.

It is reasonable that a child in 4th grade with a history of executive function

issues and who is 2 years behind needs

a neuropsych eval to pinpoint strenghts and weaknesses and develop an education

plan that will serve you in middle school.

IEP planning and advocacy can take a few years to iron out.

good luck,

Pam

- In , and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

>  

> Okay, well, I'm probably asking a question that has been asked before, but

until now, it didn't pertain to me.......so here goes.

> One of my kids,,,,not AS, but processing issues and ADD,,,, is still

struggling (4th grade) with spelling, math, everything, really.  He's better

than he was,,,,but it seems that he's always been about 2 years behind where he

is.  Know what I mean?

> Well,,,,,,someone suggested requesting an RTI for him.

> I've Googled it but would really love some input from people who've used it,

requested it, etc.  The good, the bad and the ugly....ha ha.

> What is the best way to request it?  I've always had a good relationship with

the teacher and most of the school, so this doesn't' have to get nasty, but I

also see that it's very easy to get " pushed aside " and

" poo-poo'd " ...............so they don't have to do things. 

>  

> Anyway, thanks.  Oh....he does NOT have an IEP.  They've always just moved him

to the front and said that they understand him.  Try to explain more, etc.  But,

so far,,,,he's only been in the State Reading program which was only through 2nd

grade.  He's also been given the teacher in each grade that has more experience

with all kinds of issues. 

>  

> Thanks again.

>

> It really is simple.  Just treat others kindly and with respect.

> Robin

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Pam.

Yeah, we had the Neuropsych eval done last Jan. It confirmed the processing speed and gave ideas, such as seating arrangements,,,,,,that he's more of a visual learner. Etc, etc.

I think he has good teachers and they understand about repeating, etc. I guess I'm just sad that this is his way.....know what I mean?

I hope and pray for a teacher every year in his future that will understand him and not call him lazy or whatever. Of course, I'll be there to explain and advocate,,,but it's just sad.

I don't see the real need for an IEP.........don't get me wrong, I get the purpose,,,,but if the classroom has been adjusted and the teacher understands....I guess I just have to understand that he's just a slow-processor and will never be a "scholar". Man,,,that sounds bad. I didn't mean it in a cruel way. But,,,,we're all at different levels and will succeeed at different things.

Just crushes me when we study all week with 10 words.......adn he comes home with 4-6 wrong on Friday. Ugh!

Thanks for all of your words.

It really is simple. Just treat others kindly and with respect.

Robin>> Hi,> > Okay, well, I'm probably asking a question that has been asked before, but until now, it didn't pertain to me.......so here goes.> One of my kids,,,,not AS, but processing issues and ADD,,,, is still struggling (4th grade) with spelling, math, everything, really. He's better than he was,,,,but it seems that he's always been about 2 years behind where he is. Know what I mean?> Well,,,,,,someone suggested requesting an RTI for him.> I've Googled it but would really love some input from people who've used it, requested it, etc. The good, the bad and the ugly....ha ha.> What is the best way to request it? I've always had a good relationship with the teacher and most of the school, so this doesn't' have to get nasty, but I also see that it's very easy to get "pushed aside" and "poo-poo'd". ......... .....so they don't have to do things. >

> Anyway, thanks. Oh....he does NOT have an IEP. They've always just moved him to the front and said that they understand him. Try to explain more, etc. But, so far,,,,he's only been in the State Reading program which was only through 2nd grade. He's also been given the teacher in each grade that has more experience with all kinds of issues. > > Thanks again.> > It really is simple. Just treat others kindly and with respect.> Robin>

[Guest guest]

By RTI do you mean, " Response to Intervention? " Schools are required

to have levels of intervention in place to help kids before they fail.

You should ask the principal what is in place at your school and find

out who qualifies for help and how. Also, request a full educational

evaluation in writing. Nothing gets their attention more than that.

Even if you don't feel he qualifies for sped, getting the eval will

provide you with a baseline for later if he does need more help. It

will also give them notice that this kid is struggling. And they will

need to offer him RtI services if he is behind. So it's a good way to

go over what help might be available for him.

If he is two grade levels behind in things, that would be major to my

mind. And he may need extra help, sped help, an IEP, tutoring, etc.

Roxanna

" The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do

nothing. " E. Burke

( ) Question about RTI's......

Hi,

 

Okay, well, I'm probably asking a question that has been asked before,

but until now, it didn't pertain to me.......so here goes.

One of my kids,,,,not AS, but processing issues and ADD,,,, is still

struggling (4th grade) with spelling, math, everything, really.  He's

better than he was,,,,but it seems that he's always been about 2 years

behind where he is.  Know what I mean?

Well,,,,,,someone suggested requesting an RTI for him.

I've Googled it but would really love some input from people who've

used it, requested it, etc.  The good, the bad and the ugly....ha ha.

What is the best way to request it?  I've always had a good

relationship with the teacher and most of the school, so this doesn't'

have to get nasty, but I also see that it's very easy to get " pushed

aside " and " poo-poo'd " ...............so they don't have to do things. 

 

Anyway, thanks.  Oh....he does NOT have an IEP.  They've always just

moved him to the front and said that they understand him.  Try to

explain more, etc.  But, so far,,,,he's only been in the State Reading

program which was only through 2nd grade.  He's also been given the

teacher in each grade that has more experience with all kinds of

issues. 

 

Thanks again.

It really is simple.  Just treat others kindly and with respect.

Robin

[Guest guest]

Great! I am glad you have the neuropsych. Was his processing speed in the

deficit range? Was his working memory in the deficit range too.

Did he have average verbal or reasoning skills or better?

In the special ed programs there are learning programs like

lindinmood bell where the kids learn in a mutimode way spelling or math facts or

decoding (for reading).

I still look at what you are saying and say he needs spec ed teachers that can

help him and keep him motivated.

Kids with LDs often find it hard to stay motivated and in school

as they get older.

I still urge you to try to make a case for special ed and not accept this the

way it is. If he has any deficit level scores in that neuropsyc report you have

a good case.

Pam

> >

> > Hi,

> >  

> > Okay, well, I'm probably asking a question that has been asked before, but

until now, it didn't pertain to me.......so here goes.

> > One of my kids,,,,not AS, but processing issues and ADD,,,, is still

struggling (4th grade) with spelling, math, everything, really.  He's better

than he was,,,,but it seems that he's always been about 2 years behind where he

is.  Know what I mean?

> > Well,,,,,,someone suggested requesting an RTI for him.

> > I've Googled it but would really love some input from people who've used it,

requested it, etc.  The good, the bad and the ugly....ha ha.

> > What is the best way to request it?  I've always had a good relationship

with the teacher and most of the school, so this doesn't' have to get nasty, but

I also see that it's very easy to get " pushed aside " and " poo-poo'd " . .........

......so they don't have to do things. 

> >  

> > Anyway, thanks.  Oh....he does NOT have an IEP.  They've always just moved

him to the front and said that they understand him.  Try to explain more,

etc.  But, so far,,,,he's only been in the State Reading program which was only

through 2nd grade.  He's also been given the teacher in each grade that has

more experience with all kinds of issues. 

> >  

> > Thanks again.

> >

> > It really is simple.  Just treat others kindly and with respect.

> > Robin

> >

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