Re: Delayed Puberty

[Guest guest]

Hi Bigcolli,

>

> Well, here's my story. I'm a 19 year old male living in Toronto,

> Canada. My recent blood tests show that I am SEVERELY deficient in

> testosterone. I forget the unit of measurement now, but my total

> testosterone was at a level of about 2.4 with the range being

> from 6- 20 approximately, if that can give you an idea. As a

> kid, I was very

> active and seemed to do fine until I hit about age 13. I started to

> gain weight for no reason, and I couldn't keep up with the other

> kids in my tennis group. It just felt like I didnt have the physical

> strength and endurance to keep up, let alone enjoy playing the game

> anymore. My height growth throughout life was pretty steady, and I

> was usually taller than most of the kids in my class. Still, I never

> felt like I was developing into a man properly. I wasn't very

> aggressive like the other kids that I used to hang around, and my

> loss of interest in sports was another major thing that bothered me.

> Anyway, from around 15-16, things started to go from bad to worse. I

> would feel weird sensations inside me, like hot flashes, and

> irritability. Infact, I had gynecomastia which developed slowly over

> time starting from early puberty. When I went for a checkup on my

> hormone levels at 16, the endo told me I was in the " low normal "

> range, and that she couldnt do anything for me because I appeared to

> be normal, plus I was too young. So, as the years went by, things

> continuely went downhill. Then at around 16-17, I started to develop

> things like anxiety and depression. I was put on a number of

> anti- depressants, but still didn't feel relieved. Now, at

> age 19, my main

> worries are:

>

> Will my delayed puberty correct itself with the administration of

> testosterone? (craniofacial structure, muscle mass, fat loss)

Yes in time, but, if your problem is related to the Pituitary,

Testosterone may not be necessary.

> Will I ever feel energetic, mentally well, and like my real self

> again?

Yes absolutely, provided you dose correctly and follow a reasonably good

lifestyle.

> I am going in for a CT scan on November 28th, to rule out the

> presence of a pituitary tumour or any other type of brain

> abnormalities. I will keep my fingers crossed for now and hope for

> the best.

That's the key. If your testicles are the problem, you will need

Testosterone. However, if your problem is related to the Pituitary, then

a p[recursive hormone such as HCG, HGH, or another could be the key. It

really depends on ther source of your initial problem.

> If anyone has similar stories or advice, it would be cool to hear

> from you. Thanks

I have a couple of stories on my website related to delayed puberty.

Mine is one. I'm now fifty one and am active, happy and have a body I am

happy with. I came from the other end of the scale, I was always very

skinny.

I hope this helps,

Nick

Nick O'Hara

Publisher/Editor:

The Androids Testosterone Deficiency Center

Web: www.androids.org.uk

Associate Editor:

The Testicular Cancer Resource Center

Web: tcrc.acor.org

+44 (0)208 230 6869

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi There,

I would say, take those crappy years and put them behind you. It is

great that you have found the root of your problems. I believe that

you will be able to solve most, possibly all, with testoterone

therapy. You should definitely get a blood test done to see if you

have Kleinfelter syndrome. You should also definitely make sure and

get your LH and FSH checked. If they are low, then your Hypothalamus

is the problem, not your leydig cells in your nuts, and HCG will

probably do the trick for you and make you a man.

If your LH and FSH are high, and they don't find a tumour, then

Testosterone replacement therapy is the way to go. I recommend

weekly shots 120MG per week plus Arimidex about a half pill a day.

It sounds like you definitely have an issue with Estrogen, which

accounts for the weight gain and gynecomastia (This is caused by

having to high of estradiol for the amount of testosterone you

have), so you will definitely need an anti estrogen to add to your

treatment. Arimidex is the most effective one available.

But to answer your question (note, I am not a doctor and these are

my opinions):

Will my delayed puberty correct itself with the administration of

testosterone? (craniofacial structure, muscle mass, fat loss) YES to

the Muscle mass and fat loss, You will become a normal looking guy,

and if you work out, you can become a muscular guy with a hairy

chest!, I have no idea about the craniofacial structure part,

hopefully others on this message board do. But remember to fix your

estrogen problem at the same time as fixing your testosterone

problem (with Arimidex or a similar drug).

Will I ever feel energetic, mentally well, and like my real self

again? YES!!!! You will feel like a MAN and a HUMAN and GOOD with

proper treatment. The biggest ideal is that they can get your body

doing what it is supposed to be doing, either by fixing whatever

caused the problem in the first place, or by using HCG or a similar

drug. If that doesn't happen, then TRT is the answer and you will

feel happy, horny, and good again, and you will become a man. Just

make sure you find yourself a doctor who is not too conservative

about dosing. Testosterone is your friend, and you need a good,

healthy amount of it.

Good luck and congratulations on figuring out what the problem was!

Armyguy

> Well, here's my story. I'm a 19 year old male living in Toronto,

> Canada. My recent blood tests show that I am SEVERELY deficient in

> testosterone. I forget the unit of measurement now, but my total

> testosterone was at a level of about 2.4 with the range being from

6-

> 20 approximately, if that can give you an idea. As a kid, I was

very

> active and seemed to do fine until I hit about age 13. I started

to

> gain weight for no reason, and I couldn't keep up with the other

> kids in my tennis group. It just felt like I didnt have the

physical

> strength and endurance to keep up, let alone enjoy playing the

game

> anymore. My height growth throughout life was pretty steady, and I

> was usually taller than most of the kids in my class. Still, I

never

> felt like I was developing into a man properly. I wasn't very

> aggressive like the other kids that I used to hang around, and my

> loss of interest in sports was another major thing that bothered

me.

> Anyway, from around 15-16, things started to go from bad to worse.

I

> would feel weird sensations inside me, like hot flashes, and

> irritability. Infact, I had gynecomastia which developed slowly

over

> time starting from early puberty. When I went for a checkup on my

> hormone levels at 16, the endo told me I was in the " low normal "

> range, and that she couldnt do anything for me because I appeared

to

> be normal, plus I was too young. So, as the years went by, things

> continuely went downhill. Then at around 16-17, I started to

develop

> things like anxiety and depression. I was put on a number of anti-

> depressants, but still didn't feel relieved. Now, at age 19, my

main

> worries are:

>

> Will my delayed puberty correct itself with the administration of

> testosterone? (craniofacial structure, muscle mass, fat loss)

>

> Will I ever feel energetic, mentally well, and like my real self

> again?

>

> I am going in for a CT scan on November 28th, to rule out the

> presence of a pituitary tumour or any other type of brain

> abnormalities. I will keep my fingers crossed for now and hope for

> the best.

>

> If anyone has similar stories or advice, it would be cool to hear

> from you. Thanks

[Guest guest]

I have pretty much the exact same story. I was an active kid till

about the age of 12. I was in little league for 7 years and on a

basketball team for 3. I did great in school, and then at about age

12 everything just went down hill in a hurry. My grades plummeted.

My weight sky rocketed, I grew breasts. All sorts of not fun stuff.

Now that I'm T, at the ribe old age of 20, I've lost about 60 pounds

and have about 70 more to go, I feel better mentally, my grades are

back where they belong, I'm growin fur. The whole nine. I don't

know about your specific situation, but I know in mine, T was the

key. hehe, that rhymed. Sorry. I'm sure that TRT would improve

your quality of life, but don't go into it with huge expectations.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst, expect the average.

[Guest guest]

Wow, great posts you guys! I can't tell you how much I appreciate

hearing your feedback/responses. From reading the amount of posts

I've read on this group, I can't wait till my doc, which he

hopefully will, prescribes me T. It really does seem like the

hormone of life. I just hope that the bones in my hands, feet, face,

and overall mature once I start the replacement, and that overall I

look and feel more masculine. I can just picture how greatly my

quality of life would improve, its almost like a dream. I'd

appreciate any more comments/stories you guys have to share.

Peace for now!

> I have pretty much the exact same story. I was an active kid till

> about the age of 12. I was in little league for 7 years and on a

> basketball team for 3. I did great in school, and then at about

age

> 12 everything just went down hill in a hurry. My grades

plummeted.

> My weight sky rocketed, I grew breasts. All sorts of not fun

stuff.

> Now that I'm T, at the ribe old age of 20, I've lost about 60

pounds

> and have about 70 more to go, I feel better mentally, my grades

are

> back where they belong, I'm growin fur. The whole nine. I don't

> know about your specific situation, but I know in mine, T was the

> key. hehe, that rhymed. Sorry. I'm sure that TRT would improve

> your quality of life, but don't go into it with huge

expectations.

> Hope for the best, prepare for the worst, expect the average.

[Guest guest]

Personally, I know didilly squat about HGH, Human Growth Hormone.

However, with your needing bone development it sounds like this

might be important for you. You will need to do some serious

research into it. It sounds like your symptoms are a little bit

severe, which can be a good thing, because it means that you are

definitely going to get treatment. You should see an EXPERT in

fixing this type of problem. Someone who knows allot about HGH,

testosterone and estradiol. This is your life we are talking about

here and you shouldn't put it in the hands of a Doctor who isn't a

foremost expert in the field. My opinion.

> > I have pretty much the exact same story. I was an active kid

till

> > about the age of 12. I was in little league for 7 years and on

a

> > basketball team for 3. I did great in school, and then at about

> age

> > 12 everything just went down hill in a hurry. My grades

> plummeted.

> > My weight sky rocketed, I grew breasts. All sorts of not fun

> stuff.

> > Now that I'm T, at the ribe old age of 20, I've lost about 60

> pounds

> > and have about 70 more to go, I feel better mentally, my grades

> are

> > back where they belong, I'm growin fur. The whole nine. I

don't

> > know about your specific situation, but I know in mine, T was

the

> > key. hehe, that rhymed. Sorry. I'm sure that TRT would

improve

> > your quality of life, but don't go into it with huge

> expectations.

> > Hope for the best, prepare for the worst, expect the average.

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

I highly suggest you get a kareotype(sp) to check for Klinefelter Syndrome or

47xxy. You sound very much like my husband did when he was a child. He got

diagnosed when he was 20 years old. Yes he got more muscle mass and was

better off afte the diagnosis. He has other considerations with family etc that

I

will not get into here but he had other obsticles to overcome. The

testosterone replacement therapy will help you, I am sure. The newer drugs that

they

have out now are much better than when he was diagnosed over 22 years ago. I

suggest possibly starting on shots and then move into the gels if not on the

gels from the beginning. Testim seems to be the drug of choice for many on this

list. It has been the best one for my husband. You can go nowhere but up

from here. Good luck to you and let us know how you are getting along.

H.

Montana

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Subj: Delayed puberty

Date: 11/22/2003 11:48:27 PM Mountain Standard Time

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Well, here's my story. I'm a 19 year old male living in Toronto,

Canada. My recent blood tests show that I am SEVERELY deficient in

testosterone. I forget the unit of measurement now, but my total

testosterone was at a level of about 2.4 with the range being from 6-

20 approximately, if that can give you an idea. As a kid, I was very

active and seemed to do fine until I hit about age 13. I started to

gain weight for no reason, and I couldn't keep up with the other

kids in my tennis group. It just felt like I didnt have the physical

strength and endurance to keep up, let alone enjoy playing the game

anymore. My height growth throughout life was pretty steady, and I

was usually taller than most of the kids in my class. Still, I never

felt like I was developing into a man properly. I wasn't very

aggressive like the other kids that I used to hang around, and my

loss of interest in sports was another major thing that bothered me.

Anyway, from around 15-16, things started to go from bad to worse. I

would feel weird sensations inside me, like hot flashes, and

irritability. Infact, I had gynecomastia which developed slowly over

time starting from early puberty. When I went for a checkup on my

hormone levels at 16, the endo told me I was in the " low normal "

range, and that she couldnt do anything for me because I appeared to

be normal, plus I was too young. So, as the years went by, things

continuely went downhill. Then at around 16-17, I started to develop

things like anxiety and depression. I was put on a number of anti-

depressants, but still didn't feel relieved. Now, at age 19, my main

worries are:

Will my delayed puberty correct itself with the administration of

testosterone? (craniofacial structure, muscle mass, fat loss)

Will I ever feel energetic, mentally well, and like my real self

again?

I am going in for a CT scan on November 28th, to rule out the

presence of a pituitary tumour or any other type of brain

abnormalities. I will keep my fingers crossed for now and hope for

the best.

If anyone has similar stories or advice, it would be cool to hear

from you. Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi,

One thing testosterone does is keeps you from getting osteoperosis.

.

[Guest guest]

Hi here is a link to some articles read them they may help

understaning HGH.

Phil

http://www.renewyouth.com/hormonesnaging.shtml

- In , " bigcolli " <untmp3@h...> wrote:

> Well, here's my story. I'm a 19 year old male living in Toronto,

> Canada. My recent blood tests show that I am SEVERELY deficient in

> testosterone. I forget the unit of measurement now, but my total

> testosterone was at a level of about 2.4 with the range being from

6-

> 20 approximately, if that can give you an idea. As a kid, I was

very

> active and seemed to do fine until I hit about age 13. I started

to

> gain weight for no reason, and I couldn't keep up with the other

> kids in my tennis group. It just felt like I didnt have the

physical

> strength and endurance to keep up, let alone enjoy playing the

game

> anymore. My height growth throughout life was pretty steady, and I

> was usually taller than most of the kids in my class. Still, I

never

> felt like I was developing into a man properly. I wasn't very

> aggressive like the other kids that I used to hang around, and my

> loss of interest in sports was another major thing that bothered

me.

> Anyway, from around 15-16, things started to go from bad to worse.

I

> would feel weird sensations inside me, like hot flashes, and

> irritability. Infact, I had gynecomastia which developed slowly

over

> time starting from early puberty. When I went for a checkup on my

> hormone levels at 16, the endo told me I was in the " low normal "

> range, and that she couldnt do anything for me because I appeared

to

> be normal, plus I was too young. So, as the years went by, things

> continuely went downhill. Then at around 16-17, I started to

develop

> things like anxiety and depression. I was put on a number of anti-

> depressants, but still didn't feel relieved. Now, at age 19, my

main

> worries are:

>

> Will my delayed puberty correct itself with the administration of

> testosterone? (craniofacial structure, muscle mass, fat loss)

>

> Will I ever feel energetic, mentally well, and like my real self

> again?

>

> I am going in for a CT scan on November 28th, to rule out the

> presence of a pituitary tumour or any other type of brain

> abnormalities. I will keep my fingers crossed for now and hope for

> the best.

>

> If anyone has similar stories or advice, it would be cool to hear

> from you. Thanks

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your advice and support . I have infact had a

kerotyping test done in the past 2 months, in which my doctor never

said anything to me, which I assume means that there is no problem.

He did suspect though that there might be a problem with my

pituitary or possibly my testicles. He examined my testicles and

pubic area, and told me that they appeared to have grown normally.

Also, from my new understanding, I did experience puberty at the

right age, as when I was 13 was the first time I had an ejaculation.

Although, there might have been the possibility that my puberty came

to a hault or even may have been slowed when I got into my mid

teenage years, which is what I feel too. My CT scan is scheduled for

this Saturday, and I should recieve a full diagnosis from my endo

hopefully in the next 2 weeks.

Thanks again

> Hi,

>

> One thing testosterone does is keeps you from getting osteoperosis.

>

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

One of my sons (typical) had a bone scan done because he wasn't growing. This

was around age 13 (he's 21 now). Helped me feel better. It showed his bone age

was 5 yrs difference, younger. So, say he was 13, the bone was at 8 yrs. So we

figured he'd go thru puberty later. He did start growing more a year or so

later, thru high school and all. Just never " shot up " like my other 2 sons did

at that age, where they'd grow an inch or two over time (or months). Just a

slower process, he's fine! I will say he doesn't have to shave every day...not

sure how often he does shave actually, but I bet he goes longer than a week....

I could be wrong on that.

But I was concerned when the doctor said there was 5 yrs difference, and doctor

said not to worry, that we would worry if it was the reverse, scan had said bone

was 5 yrs older!

I know it probably bothered him at times, other guys getting the facial hair,

all that, but I'd just remind him about his bone age, and told him he'd be

happier about that as he got older! He agreed.

>

> I have a weird question but didn't really know where else to go with this...my

13 1/2 yr old son (with aspergers & sensory integration issues)hasn't started

puberty. His pediatrician is becoming worried and wants us to have a wrist bone

scan to find out his Chronological age versus his real age (whatever that

means!?) We don't have insurance so we've decided to wait and see what happens

in six months or so.

[Guest guest]

,

I wouldn't worry too much yet as others have said. If he were 15 or so then I would but he just mught be a late blumer. My son is 13, almost 14 and although he has somewhat started puberty, it has been slow. He is very immature as well for 13 on most things. He has the social/emotional maturity of about 10 or 11. Maybe this has something to do with the delay in the onset of puberty. Not sure. I would do some research if you're real worried, but really everyone has their own timeline. ne

From: <kristenwallen@...>Subject: ( ) Delayed Puberty Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 1:46 PM

I have a weird question but didn't really know where else to go with this...my 13 1/2 yr old son (with aspergers & sensory integration issues)hasn't started puberty. His pediatrician is becoming worried and wants us to have a wrist bone scan to find out his Chronological age versus his real age (whatever that means!?) We don't have insurance so we've decided to wait and see what happens in six months or so.Is this something anyone else is dealing with? My son is very immature, I'd guess three years behind immaturity wise but now to have this bomb dropped is scaring me. His pediatrician, who we've been seeing since his birth asked me if he was "playing with himself" yet and when I told her No, not to my knowledge, she was flabbergasted. That worried me so I asked my husband when he started "you know what-ing" and the man who I thought I could NEVER embarres got red in the face and said "I don't remember!" Of course I'm running

through my head "what if I did something to surpress his puberty" like we've been using melatonin off and on since age 9, what if I messes up his pituatary gland or something.This is just one more thing to add to my list of How Do I Fix This?Thank for letting me vent, W

[Guest guest]

Hi ,Your sons ped is wanting to take an x-ray of his left hand to check the growth platesfor his rate of growth. The Chronological age means the rate his bones are growing verses his actual age. I would not worry too much for some boys do not get their growth spurt until around 14 -16. Let nature take its course. I have two adult sons in their 20's and sometimes they are still emotionally immature! My AS daughter is 12 and 5'7" tall. Girls mature faster than boys. She is in 7th grade and the boys come up to her elbows.She is young for a 7th grader and only 1 or 2 boys in the school are her height!Hope this helps. Try not

to worry! Hugs,Elinor From: <kristenwallen@...> Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 12:46:30 PMSubject: ( ) Delayed Puberty

I have a weird question but didn't really know where else to go with this...my 13 1/2 yr old son (with aspergers & sensory integration issues)hasn't started puberty. His pediatrician is becoming worried and wants us to have a wrist bone scan to find out his Chronological age versus his real age (whatever that means!?) We don't have insurance so we've decided to wait and see what happens in six months or so.

Is this something anyone else is dealing with? My son is very immature, I'd guess three years behind immaturity wise but now to have this bomb dropped is scaring me. His pediatrician, who we've been seeing since his birth asked me if he was "playing with himself" yet and when I told her No, not to my knowledge, she was flabbergasted. That worried me so I asked my husband when he started "you know what-ing" and the man who I thought I could NEVER embarres got red in the face and said "I don't remember!"

Of course I'm running through my head "what if I did something to surpress his puberty" like we've been using melatonin off and on since age 9, what if I messes up his pituatary gland or something.

This is just one more thing to add to my list of How Do I Fix This?

Thank for letting me vent,

W

[Guest guest]

, My son is 15 and only started puberty last winter. He needed to get a

series of testosterone shots (only three shots) to give him a jump start to get

his puberty going (which worked). Also his pituitory gland is non-funtioning and

he has to take growth hormone shots as well every night. We live in

Pennsylvannia and we were able to get him medical assistance through the

" Loophole Program " . Its based on the childs disability not the families income.

You might want to look into this for insurance. A couple times a year they will

take a bone age x-ray of his hand to see the size of his growth plates. The

larger the growth plate span/space the more time he has to still grow. For years

the one doctor we were seeing was saying that my son just needed to eat more and

then he would grow. After 3.5 years we finally went to the Children's Hospital

of Philadelphia and they found out his pituitary gland was non-functioning and

he has been on the growth hormone shots for 2 years now. He just finally reached

his 5' mark. He will need to take the GH shot for the next 3-4 years until he

reaches his full height. Also when Austin started the GH shots, the doctors

wanted to wait a while until they started the testosterone shots because a child

will usually stop growing when they are done going through puberty. If your son

hasn't even started puberty then he's still not done growing. Your pituarty

gland is the master gland that controls all of your other glands. All of the

other glands are functioning normal. Also as for the Melatonin, my son has also

been on it for years and it wasn't because of that or anything else that I did.

Your son also might not even have the same problems that my son have and he's

just slow at starting the puberty process. My son's Growth doctor also said that

when he start going through puberty he will start to grow faster.

>

> Hi ,

> Your sons ped is wanting to take an x-ray of his left hand to check the growth

> plates

> for his rate of growth. The Chronological age means the rate his bones are

> growing verses his actual age. I would not worry too much for some boys do

not

> get their

> growth spurt until around 14 -16. Let nature take its course.

> I have two adult sons in their 20's and sometimes they are still emotionally

> immature!

> My AS daughter is 12 and 5'7 " tall. Girls mature faster than boys.

> She is in 7th grade and the boys come up to her elbows.

> She is young for a 7th grader and only 1 or 2 boys in the school are her

height!

> Hope this helps. Try not to worry!

> Hugs,

> Elinor

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: <kristenwallen@...>

>

> Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 12:46:30 PM

> Subject: ( ) Delayed Puberty

>

>

> I have a weird question but didn't really know where else to go with this...my

> 13 1/2 yr old son (with aspergers & sensory integration issues)hasn't started

> puberty. His pediatrician is becoming worried and wants us to have a wrist

bone

> scan to find out his Chronological age versus his real age (whatever that

> means!?) We don't have insurance so we've decided to wait and see what happens

> in six months or so.

>

> Is this something anyone else is dealing with? My son is very immature, I'd

> guess three years behind immaturity wise but now to have this bomb dropped is

> scaring me. His pediatrician, who we've been seeing since his birth asked me

if

> he was " playing with himself " yet and when I told her No, not to my knowledge,

> she was flabbergasted. That worried me so I asked my husband when he started

> " you know what-ing " and the man who I thought I could NEVER embarres got red

in

> the face and said " I don't remember! "

>

>

> Of course I'm running through my head " what if I did something to surpress his

> puberty " like we've been using melatonin off and on since age 9, what if I

> messes up his pituatary gland or something.

> This is just one more thing to add to my list of How Do I Fix This?

>

> Thank for letting me vent,

> W

>