Guest guest Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 That is frustrating as hell. It is ridiculous to imply that just because a child does not have siblings that they are spoiled or that is the reason they have challenges with social interaction. We got some of that same attitude regarding my 3 year old. They implied that if he has difficulties with peers it is surely because he is an only child. Never mind that before starting school we went to 4 or 5 playdates every week. The other side of that - which is something that is really upsetting me right now - is the implication that as the mother of an only child, I am surely too focused on my son and probably imagining problems where none exist. I am starting to get this vibe from one of my son's teachers that I am too concerned about what goes on in school and trying to prepare him for it - basically, " step back and let us do our job " . I was sorely tempted to do just that and let them deal with the consequences, but my husband pointed out that if our son has a bad day at school we will end up dealing with it too when he gets home. It feels like we are being told that on the one hand, your child has problems because you didn't give him a sibling to socialize with, and on the other hand, we are blowing problems out of proportion by being a crazy helicopter mom. Do too little and you are the source of the problem, and do too much, and the problem is in your head! Thanks for letting me vent, Bridget > > has any one had an issue with the school or the dr saying things about thier being an only child i desparatly want more and cant and i find it offensve and hurtful personally andi dont hink that the problems he has at almost 7 yrs old are due to him being an only child we had aour ard yesterday and they said the tests all say he is but b/c he has no sensory issues they think hes not nad he is adhd like they thought last yr and they will 504 him which is more than i thought they would do but the 1st prob he had in pre k the 1st thing the principal said about him was hes an only child like its a bad thing not to have alot of kids though i want like 5 i cant so i am blessed with my ONE son and i cant believe its a strike agianst him like that they basicly said hes a spoiled only child who always gets what he wants and so we are bad parents and thats where all the problems he has socially and behaviorly come from and his educational issues were b/c i homeshcooled him for 1/2 the yr in kindergarden i thought i was going to loose control i cant take it i want to scream the child psychologt that did his testing says what they saw evaling him dosent line up to the hrs of tests me and my dh and his teacher did on his everyday behavior so b/c they saw him like 5 times they know and i hate this guy is in the schools pocket just angery and venting sorry thanks w > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Oh count me in on this one!!!!!!! I never wanted an only child and have had it used as the reason for dd's problems all her life - couple that with the fact we have home schooled from birth and go to church and in the UK you have every reason under the sun for a maladjusted child except AS. I too wanted a raft of kids but it was not to be. We almost lost dd at 7 months due to the hackneyed stereotyped views. She had a cyst that eventually grew so big it crushed her lungs and displaced her internal organs. When it was removed she lost an 1/8th of her body weight and at 7 months they drained a wine bottle full of fluid out of it. I was attending "first time mum" sessions from 6 weeks of age when they were telling me "mother's instinct is always right, always go with your gut" and I was booking an appointment straight afterwards with the doctor and being told I was a "paranoid first time mum" and this continued for the next 6 months. Guess which view proved to be the correct one, but only after a 6 hour emergency operation and a stint in intensive care!!!!! It has taken 4-5 years of fighting to get the medical profession to accept there is AS going on and I am waiting for the final confirmation in writing any day - have already had it verbally from the paediatrician. My family - now it is "official" are finally having to accept that there is something serious going on and it is not just my "whacky parenting". This has been one long ride (dd is 9 and I knew at 18 months something was different and started reading about AS) and with diagnosis it feels as though we are nearing the end of one fight and the start of another journey!! For all you "only child parents" out there, keep fighting and keep going with your gut - massive odds are in your favour that you are right and you will be proved right in the end. I even had to fight for my dd to have glasses when she was 2 as they were adamant I couldn't possibly know she needed them - until they tested her and found astigmatism - and that was a no brainer since I am massively short sighted and all four grandparents have eye issues so it seemed pretty likely dd had a decent chance of needing glasses if she's squinting!! I'm going to go put the kettle on and calm down now!!! a On 26/10/2010 23:58, bridget wrote: That is frustrating as hell. It is ridiculous to imply that just because a child does not have siblings that they are spoiled or that is the reason they have challenges with social interaction. We got some of that same attitude regarding my 3 year old. They implied that if he has difficulties with peers it is surely because he is an only child. Never mind that before starting school we went to 4 or 5 playdates every week. The other side of that - which is something that is really upsetting me right now - is the implication that as the mother of an only child, I am surely too focused on my son and probably imagining problems where none exist. I am starting to get this vibe from one of my son's teachers that I am too concerned about what goes on in school and trying to prepare him for it - basically, "step back and let us do our job". I was sorely tempted to do just that and let them deal with the consequences, but my husband pointed out that if our son has a bad day at school we will end up dealing with it too when he gets home. It feels like we are being told that on the one hand, your child has problems because you didn't give him a sibling to socialize with, and on the other hand, we are blowing problems out of proportion by being a crazy helicopter mom. Do too little and you are the source of the problem, and do too much, and the problem is in your head! Thanks for letting me vent, Bridget > > has any one had an issue with the school or the dr saying things about thier being an only child i desparatly want more and cant and i find it offensve and hurtful personally andi dont hink that the problems he has at almost 7 yrs old are due to him being an only child we had aour ard yesterday and they said the tests all say he is but b/c he has no sensory issues they think hes not nad he is adhd like they thought last yr and they will 504 him which is more than i thought they would do but the 1st prob he had in pre k the 1st thing the principal said about him was hes an only child like its a bad thing not to have alot of kids though i want like 5 i cant so i am blessed with my ONE son and i cant believe its a strike agianst him like that they basicly said hes a spoiled only child who always gets what he wants and so we are bad parents and thats where all the problems he has socially and behaviorly come from and his educational issues were b/c i homeshcooled him for 1/2 the yr in kindergarden i thought i was going to loose control i cant take it i want to scream the child psychologt that did his testing says what they saw evaling him dosent line up to the hrs of tests me and my dh and his teacher did on his everyday behavior so b/c they saw him like 5 times they know and i hate this guy is in the schools pocket just angery and venting sorry thanks w > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 ME TOO! We have four kids now, but Madeline is our oldest and there is a five yr gap in between her and Cayla. I can't count how many doctors told me nothing was wrong...I told them she was a little different and every single time I got waived off. Even a psychologist said she had autistic symptoms, but not autism....how can someone who's in that field NOT see it? Or not even say, you should see a specialist to rule it one way or the other. Mom's do know what's best and Dad's for that matter...they are our children..@@ I better quit, before I get really mad. LOL Mom to my 4 girls Madeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza "You are the TRIP I did not take You are the PEARLS I cannot buy You are the blue Italian LAKE YOU are my piece of foreign SKY" ---Anne ---- Re: ( ) Re: only child disorder Oh count me in on this one!!!!!!! I never wanted an only child and have had it used as the reason for dd's problems all her life - couple that with the fact we have home schooled from birth and go to church and in the UK you have every reason under the sun for a maladjusted child except AS. I too wanted a raft of kids but it was not to be. We almost lost dd at 7 months due to the hackneyed stereotyped views. She had a cyst that eventually grew so big it crushed her lungs and displaced her internal organs. When it was removed she lost an 1/8th of her body weight and at 7 months they drained a wine bottle full of fluid out of it. I was attending "first time mum" sessions from 6 weeks of age when they were telling me "mother's instinct is always right, always go with your gut" and I was booking an appointment straight afterwards with the doctor and being told I was a "paranoid first time mum" and this continued for the next 6 months. Guess which view proved to be the correct one, but only after a 6 hour emergency operation and a stint in intensive care!!!!! It has taken 4-5 years of fighting to get the medical profession to accept there is AS going on and I am waiting for the final confirmation in writing any day - have already had it verbally from the paediatrician. My family - now it is "official" are finally having to accept that there is something serious going on and it is not just my "whacky parenting". This has been one long ride (dd is 9 and I knew at 18 months something was different and started reading about AS) and with diagnosis it feels as though we are nearing the end of one fight and the start of another journey!! For all you "only child parents" out there, keep fighting and keep going with your gut - massive odds are in your favour that you are right and you will be proved right in the end. I even had to fight for my dd to have glasses when she was 2 as they were adamant I couldn't possibly know she needed them - until they tested her and found astigmatism - and that was a no brainer since I am massively short sighted and all four grandparents have eye issues so it seemed pretty likely dd had a decent chance of needing glasses if she's squinting!! I'm going to go put the kettle on and calm down now!!! a On 26/10/2010 23:58, bridget wrote: That is frustrating as hell. It is ridiculous to imply that just because a child does not have siblings that they are spoiled or that is the reason they have challenges with social interaction. We got some of that same attitude regarding my 3 year old. They implied that if he has difficulties with peers it is surely because he is an only child. Never mind that before starting school we went to 4 or 5 playdates every week. The other side of that - which is something that is really upsetting me right now - is the implication that as the mother of an only child, I am surely too focused on my son and probably imagining problems where none exist. I am starting to get this vibe from one of my son's teachers that I am too concerned about what goes on in school and trying to prepare him for it - basically, "step back and let us do our job". I was sorely tempted to do just that and let them deal with the consequences, but my husband pointed out that if our son has a bad day at school we will end up dealing with it too when he gets home. It feels like we are being told that on the one hand, your child has problems because you didn't give him a sibling to socialize with, and on the other hand, we are blowing problems out of proportion by being a crazy helicopter mom. Do too little and you are the source of the problem, and do too much, and the problem is in your head! Thanks for letting me vent, Bridget > > has any one had an issue with the school or the dr saying things about thier being an only child i desparatly want more and cant and i find it offensve and hurtful personally andi dont hink that the problems he has at almost 7 yrs old are due to him being an only child we had aour ard yesterday and they said the tests all say he is but b/c he has no sensory issues they think hes not nad he is adhd like they thought last yr and they will 504 him which is more than i thought they would do but the 1st prob he had in pre k the 1st thing the principal said about him was hes an only child like its a bad thing not to have alot of kids though i want like 5 i cant so i am blessed with my ONE son and i cant believe its a strike agianst him like that they basicly said hes a spoiled only child who always gets what he wants and so we are bad parents and thats where all the problems he has socially and behaviorly come from and his educational issues were b/c i homeshcooled him for 1/2 the yr in kindergarden i thought i was going to loose control i cant take it i want to scream the child psychologt that did his testing says what they saw evaling him dosent line up to the hrs of tests me and my dh and his teacher did on his everyday behavior so b/c they saw him like 5 times they know and i hate this guy is in the schools pocket just angery and venting sorry thanks w > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I would love a poll on that question myself! "how can someone who's in that field NOT see it? " it is a tradgedy that anyone should have to work so hard to get help for their kids as we all do. That is frustrating as hell. It is ridiculous to imply that just because a child does not have siblings that they are spoiled or that is the reason they have challenges with social interaction. We got some of that same attitude regarding my 3 year old. They implied that if he has difficulties with peers it is surely because he is an only child. Never mind that before starting school we went to 4 or 5 playdates every week. The other side of that - which is something that is really upsetting me right now - is the implication that as the mother of an only child, I am surely too focused on my son and probably imagining problems where none exist. I am starting to get this vibe from one of my son's teachers that I am too concerned about what goes on in school and trying to prepare him for it - basically, "step back and let us do our job". I was sorely tempted to do just that and let them deal with the consequences, but my husband pointed out that if our son has a bad day at school we will end up dealing with it too when he gets home. It feels like we are being told that on the one hand, your child has problems because you didn't give him a sibling to socialize with, and on the other hand, we are blowing problems out of proportion by being a crazy helicopter mom. Do too little and you are the source of the problem, and do too much, and the problem is in your head! Thanks for letting me vent,Bridget>> has any one had an issue with the school or the dr saying things about thier being an only child i desparatly want more and cant and i find it offensve and hurtful personally andi dont hink that the problems he has at almost 7 yrs old are due to him being an only child we had aour ard yesterday and they said the tests all say he is but b/c he has no sensory issues they think hes not nad he is adhd like they thought last yr and they will 504 him which is more than i thought they would do but the 1st prob he had in pre k the 1st thing the principal said about him was hes an only child like its a bad thing not to have alot of kids though i want like 5 i cant so i am blessed with my ONE son and i cant believe its a strike agianst him like that they basicly said hes a spoiled only child who always gets what he wants and so we are bad parents and thats where all the problems he has socially and behaviorly come from and his educational issues were b/c i homeshcooled him for 1/2 the yr in kindergarden i thought i was going to loose control i cant take it i want to scream the child psychologt that did his testing says what they saw evaling him dosent line up to the hrs of tests me and my dh and his teacher did on his everyday behavior so b/c they saw him like 5 times they know and i hate this guy is in the schools pocket just angery and venting sorry thanks w> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 You may enjoy reading this article from Time Magazine about the advantages of being an only child: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2002382,00.html > > has any one had an issue with the school or the dr saying things about thier being an only child i desparatly want more and cant and i find it offensve and hurtful personally andi dont hink that the problems he has at almost 7 yrs old are due to him being an only child we had aour ard yesterday and they said the tests all say he is but b/c he has no sensory issues they think hes not nad he is adhd like they thought last yr and they will 504 him which is more than i thought they would do but the 1st prob he had in pre k the 1st thing the principal said about him was hes an only child like its a bad thing not to have alot of kids though i want like 5 i cant so i am blessed with my ONE son and i cant believe its a strike agianst him like that they basicly said hes a spoiled only child who always gets what he wants and so we are bad parents and thats where all the problems he has socially and behaviorly come from and his educational issues were b/c i homeshcooled him for 1/2 the yr in kindergarden i thought i was going to loose control i cant take it i want to scream the child psychologt that did his testing says what they saw evaling him dosent line up to the hrs of tests me and my dh and his teacher did on his everyday behavior so b/c they saw him like 5 times they know and i hate this guy is in the schools pocket just angery and venting sorry thanks w > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 I hate that school staff will grasp at anything they can find to explain a problem that they don't want to deal with. It makes me so angry. With it was, " He's upset because you moved " , " You don't make him do anything. " or " You give in too much. " or " There isn't any structure in your home. " We had a district staff person come into our home to evaluate us and she told us, " Your home is very structured and you're doing a great job. " So the jerks at the school had to back off on that one. They tried to tell me he was emotionally disturbed. Oh yeah, right. That fits in really well with what the doctor said at " 's Hopkins " just a few months before, " He has asperger syndrome but he's well adjusted. " Yes, I will take the advice of a semi-educated, self-important fool over a developmental pediatrician from s Hopkins, sure, whatever. NOT! Miriam > > > > has any one had an issue with the school or the dr saying things about thier being an only child i desparatly want more and cant and i find it offensve and hurtful personally andi dont hink that the problems he has at almost 7 yrs old are due to him being an only child we had aour ard yesterday and they said the tests all say he is but b/c he has no sensory issues they think hes not nad he is adhd like they thought last yr and they will 504 him which is more than i thought they would do but the 1st prob he had in pre k the 1st thing the principal said about him was hes an only child like its a bad thing not to have alot of kids though i want like 5 i cant so i am blessed with my ONE son and i cant believe its a strike agianst him like that they basicly said hes a spoiled only child who always gets what he wants and so we are bad parents and thats where all the problems he has socially and behaviorly come from and his educational issues were b/c i homeshcooled him for 1/2 the yr in kindergarden i thought i was going to loose control i cant take it i want to scream the child psychologt that did his testing says what they saw evaling him dosent line up to the hrs of tests me and my dh and his teacher did on his everyday behavior so b/c they saw him like 5 times they know and i hate this guy is in the schools pocket just angery and venting sorry thanks w > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 "I hate that school staff will grasp at anything they can find to explain a problem that they don't want to deal with."I can't agree more! Apparently (according to the 20 something "professionals" with no children of their own) my son is this way because I spoil him, let him get away with everything, he's too attached to me (we are very close, but I think thats because we are going through this together, and few people understand him like I do!) and so on. And we're actually paying these people for their opinions. D is not an only child, but that's just ridiculous to say that about only children. Blame the parents...its so easy. Ugh. Pam Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: "mimasdprofile" <callis4773@...>Sender: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:52:46 +0000< >Reply Subject: ( ) Re: only child disorder I hate that school staff will grasp at anything they can find to explain a problem that they don't want to deal with. It makes me so angry. With it was, " He's upset because you moved " , " You don't make him do anything. " or " You give in too much. " or " There isn't any structure in your home. " We had a district staff person come into our home to evaluate us and she told us, " Your home is very structured and you're doing a great job. " So the jerks at the school had to back off on that one. They tried to tell me he was emotionally disturbed. Oh yeah, right. That fits in really well with what the doctor said at " 's Hopkins " just a few months before, " He has asperger syndrome but he's well adjusted. " Yes, I will take the advice of a semi-educated, self-important fool over a developmental pediatrician from s Hopkins, sure, whatever. NOT!Miriam> >> > has any one had an issue with the school or the dr saying things about thier being an only child i desparatly want more and cant and i find it offensve and hurtful personally andi dont hink that the problems he has at almost 7 yrs old are due to him being an only child we had aour ard yesterday and they said the tests all say he is but b/c he has no sensory issues they think hes not nad he is adhd like they thought last yr and they will 504 him which is more than i thought they would do but the 1st prob he had in pre k the 1st thing the principal said about him was hes an only child like its a bad thing not to have alot of kids though i want like 5 i cant so i am blessed with my ONE son and i cant believe its a strike agianst him like that they basicly said hes a spoiled only child who always gets what he wants and so we are bad parents and thats where all the problems he has socially and behaviorly come from and his educational issues were b/c i homeshcooled him for 1/2the yr in kindergarden i thought i was going to loose control i cant take it i want to scream the child psychologt that did his testing says what they saw evaling him dosent line up to the hrs of tests me and my dh and his teacher did on his everyday behavior so b/c they saw him like 5 times they know and i hate this guy is in the schools pocket just angery and venting sorry thanks w> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 I get it although I don't have an only child. My youngest is 18 months old and severely speech delayed, he doesn't even babble much and shows repetitive behaviors and has sensory problems. But I keep getting, " oh well he has two older siblings who speak for him " . I also get the whole well you are just a too worried parent because your older two have issues. Any implication that it is something you are doing is insulting and aggravating and I totally get it. > > has any one had an issue with the school or the dr saying things about thier being an only child i desparatly want more and cant and i find it offensve and hurtful personally andi dont hink that the problems he has at almost 7 yrs old are due to him being an only child we had aour ard yesterday and they said the tests all say he is but b/c he has no sensory issues they think hes not nad he is adhd like they thought last yr and they will 504 him which is more than i thought they would do but the 1st prob he had in pre k the 1st thing the principal said about him was hes an only child like its a bad thing not to have alot of kids though i want like 5 i cant so i am blessed with my ONE son and i cant believe its a strike agianst him like that they basicly said hes a spoiled only child who always gets what he wants and so we are bad parents and thats where all the problems he has socially and behaviorly come from and his educational issues were b/c i homeshcooled him for 1/2 the yr in kindergarden i thought i was going to loose control i cant take it i want to scream the child psychologt that did his testing says what they saw evaling him dosent line up to the hrs of tests me and my dh and his teacher did on his everyday behavior so b/c they saw him like 5 times they know and i hate this guy is in the schools pocket just angery and venting sorry thanks w > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Miriam... You gave me a good chuckle on that one... "In the Midst of Difficulty lies Opportunity" Albert Einstein Success is not measured by one's position but by the obstacles one has overcome to obtain that position From: mimasdprofile <callis4773@...> Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 9:52:46 AMSubject: ( ) Re: only child disorder I hate that school staff will grasp at anything they can find to explain a problem that they don't want to deal with. It makes me so angry. With it was, "He's upset because you moved", "You don't make him do anything." or "You give in too much." or "There isn't any structure in your home." We had a district staff person come into our home to evaluate us and she told us, "Your home is very structured and you're doing a great job." So the jerks at the school had to back off on that one. They tried to tell me he was emotionally disturbed. Oh yeah, right. That fits in really well with what the doctor said at "'s Hopkins" just a few months before, "He has asperger syndrome but he's well adjusted." Yes, I will take the advice of a semi-educated, self-important fool over a developmental pediatrician from s Hopkins, sure, whatever. NOT!Miriam> >> > has any one had an issue with the school or the dr saying things about thier being an only child i desparatly want more and cant and i find it offensve and hurtful personally andi dont hink that the problems he has at almost 7 yrs old are due to him being an only child we had aour ard yesterday and they said the tests all say he is but b/c he has no sensory issues they think hes not nad he is adhd like they thought last yr and they will 504 him which is more than i thought they would do but the 1st prob he had in pre k the 1st thing the principal said about him was hes an only child like its a bad thing not to have alot of kids though i want like 5 i cant so i am blessed with my ONE son and i cant believe its a strike agianst him like that they basicly said hes a spoiled only child who always gets what he wants and so we are bad parents and thats where all the problems he has socially and behaviorly come from and his educational issues were b/c i homeshcooled him for 1/2 the yr in kindergarden i thought i was going to loose control i cant take it i want to scream the child psychologt that did his testing says what they saw evaling him dosent line up to the hrs of tests me and my dh and his teacher did on his everyday behavior so b/c they saw him like 5 times they know and i hate this guy is in the schools pocket just angery and venting sorry thanks w> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 What helped changed the tone with the school district was to bring an advocate and then later on bring a lawyer to the 504 and IEP meetings. All of a sudden the meetings started on time, everyone invited to the meeting actually showed up, and staff kept their personal opinions to themselves. All my advocate had to do was to gently remind them of the law and so we were able to get past the gatekeepers and get my son the help he desparately needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Looking back I wish I would not have put any substance in what teachers pr principals have said to us. We have an only child too. The principal told us we were bad parents when our daughter was in kindergarten. We had been seeing a therapist and she said otherwise. That helped alittle but it hurt bad in the early years of school. My daughter at age 9 was dual diagnosised with Syndrome and AS syndrome. We finally had validation. I blamed myself for so much up until she was about 11. Now the therapist and psychiatrist tell me our daughter is lucky to have such a caring Mom. It helps a a little. But I still have sadness that she has to cope with things. I try to focus on how much I love my daughter. It ry to enjoy when she is calm and happy. There is so much to focus on, to think about after high school and setting up a special needs trust. I try to help other Mom's too get help at school. Now that my daughter is in a special needs school I go with other Mom's that feel alone and help them get services. Helping other Mom's has been the most validating for me. I know there pain and I see what I went through. Hang in there. Keep looking for a therapist that can help you at the school. Pam > > has any one had an issue with the school or the dr saying things about thier being an only child i desparatly want more and cant and i find it offensve and hurtful personally andi dont hink that the problems he has at almost 7 yrs old are due to him being an only child we had aour ard yesterday and they said the tests all say he is but b/c he has no sensory issues they think hes not nad he is adhd like they thought last yr and they will 504 him which is more than i thought they would do but the 1st prob he had in pre k the 1st thing the principal said about him was hes an only child like its a bad thing not to have alot of kids though i want like 5 i cant so i am blessed with my ONE son and i cant believe its a strike agianst him like that they basicly said hes a spoiled only child who always gets what he wants and so we are bad parents and thats where all the problems he has socially and behaviorly come from and his educational issues were b/c i homeshcooled him for 1/2 the yr in kindergarden i thought i was going to loose control i cant take it i want to scream the child psychologt that did his testing says what they saw evaling him dosent line up to the hrs of tests me and my dh and his teacher did on his everyday behavior so b/c they saw him like 5 times they know and i hate this guy is in the schools pocket just angery and venting sorry thanks w > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 , Just wondering when you brought a lawyer did the school have one present too? Also, what it terribly expensive? We're seriously considering into one. Running out of energy to fight the fight alone. In 9yrs that my son has been in school, there has only been one year we didn't have to fight. ne > > What helped changed the tone with the school district was to bring an advocate and then later on bring a lawyer to the 504 and IEP meetings. All of a sudden the meetings started on time, everyone invited to the meeting actually showed up, and staff kept their personal opinions to themselves. All my advocate had to do was to gently remind them of the law and so we were able to get past the gatekeepers and get my son the help he desparately needed. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 When I came to the meeting with the advocate, the usual suspects were there at the IEP meetings, but when I came with a lawyer, the school district brought in a lawyer, too, plus there were a lot of new faces at the IEP meeting. The school district was in Northern California and the lawyer they used was based in Southern California and so she had to fly in for each IEP meeting. Both lawyers taped the meetings. My lawyer spoke for me at the meetings and she insisted that I have a few days to review the recommendations while the school district lawyer would always insist that I sign everything before I left. I think the cost was well worth it since my son finally got the help that he was legally entitled to. Plus we actually did not have to go to court. I had a huge paper trail and the lawyers on both sides could see where the school district had year after year not been in compliance. The school district did not want to take on a court case that they would lose. The law firm I used helped me keep costs down by asking me to make some calls or send some emails myself or to make photocopies so they wouldn't have to bill me at their hourly rate. The end result was that the school district picked up the tab for a private school for AS kids. Even so, the cost to the district was cheaper than it would have been for them to provide the same services since they did not have any services in place for AS at that time. If you need an attorney and you have a private school for kids with any kind of disability in your area, try calling that school and ask them if they know of an attorney that can help. You definitely want an attorney that specializes in handling this type of case and one who has been successful in working with the local school district in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Thanks , I will check into what you suggested. I just don't think there is anything in this county. We are military and don't have the option to pack up and move. This has been such a drain on all of us. It is really a shame that parents have to fight like this. I know it sounds like I'm whinning and in a way I am. I just am at such a low point that some days I don't even want to get out of bed to deal with another e-mail or issue. But I do it for my son's sake. I know my husband is getting tired of talking about it too. I can't seem to talk about much else. It is consuming my life. I'm just glad and lucky I have a job that takes my mind off of it and a boss who is very understanding and supportive. I'm also glad for this support group. It does help a lot to talk to others going through the same things. ne From: <tamaoki_s@...>Subject: ( ) Re: only child disorder Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 1:26 PM When I came to the meeting with the advocate, the usual suspects were there at the IEP meetings, but when I came with a lawyer, the school district brought in a lawyer, too, plus there were a lot of new faces at the IEP meeting. The school district was in Northern California and the lawyer they used was based in Southern California and so she had to fly in for each IEP meeting. Both lawyers taped the meetings. My lawyer spoke for me at the meetings and she insisted that I have a few days to review the recommendations while the school district lawyer would always insist that I sign everything before I left. I think the cost was well worth it since my son finally got the help that he was legally entitled to. Plus we actually did not have to go to court. I had a huge paper trail and the lawyers on both sides could see where the school district had year after year not been in compliance. The school district did not want to take on a court case that they would lose. The law firm I used helped me keep costs down by asking me to make some calls or send some emails myself or to make photocopies so they wouldn't have to bill me at their hourly rate. The end result was that the school district picked up the tab for a private school for AS kids. Even so, the cost to the district was cheaper than it would have been for them to provide the same services since they did not have any services in place for AS at that time. If you need an attorney and you have a private school for kids with any kind of disability in your area, try calling that school and ask them if they know of an attorney that can help. You definitely want an attorney that specializes in handling this type of case and one who has been successful in working with the local school district in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Check out the 's Law websites. They have a wealth of information for parents with special needs children. The law states that the schools have to provide services for our kids and if the local schools don't have anything in place now, then they need to create a program. Of course, that's easier said than done. My local school district doesn't have enough money as it is and so they have a history of not doing anything until they are pushed to the limit. Getting an advocate and later an attorney helped me get past the gatekeepers who do what they can to discourage more spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Oh wow, I used to hear that about my boys too. They all had speech delays and did not talk when they should have been talking. I often heard that I talked for my oldest ds by everyone! I eventually realized that they had the cause/effect backwards. I talked for him so much because he couldn't talk. Roxanna "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson ( ) Re: only child disorder I get it although I don't have an only child. My youngest is 18 months old and severely speech delayed, he doesn't even babble much and shows repetitive behaviors and has sensory problems. But I keep getting, "oh well he has two older siblings who speak for him". I also get the whole well you are just a too worried parent because your older two have issues. Any implication that it is something you are doing is insulting and aggravating and I totally get it. > > has any one had an issue with the school or the dr saying things about thier being an only child i desparatly want more and cant and i find it offensve and hurtful personally andi dont hink that the problems he has at almost 7 yrs old are due to him being an only child we had aour ard yesterday and they said the tests all say he is but b/c he has no sensory issues they think hes not nad he is adhd like they thought last yr and they will 504 him which is more than i thought they would do but the 1st prob he had in pre k the 1st thing the principal said about him was hes an only child like its a bad thing not to have alot of kids though i want like 5 i cant so i am blessed with my ONE son and i cant believe its a strike agianst him like that they basicly said hes a spoiled only child who always gets what he wants and so we are bad parents and thats where all the problems he has socially and behaviorly come from and his educational issues were b/c i homeshcooled him for 1/2 the yr in kindergarden i thought i was going to loose control i cant take it i want to scream the child psychologt that did his testing says what they saw evaling him dosent line up to the hrs of tests me and my dh and his teacher did on his everyday behavior so b/c they saw him like 5 times they know and i hate this guy is in the schools pocket just angery and venting sorry thanks w > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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