Help with hair test results

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Hi, can you please help me with the DDI hair test results of my son?

this is his first hair test.

Small history: we started chelation when he was 3,5 yo with TD –

DMPS with nice cognitive results and good pulls of all the metals

except mercury for which we saw only very small pulls (urine and

fecal metals) but the tests were random, every 3 / 4 months or more

and it took us some tests to understand that my son was excreting

mainly through his feces, so I don't have an exact picture of the

excretions, if matters…. After 22 months with TD – DMPS, on last

january we decided to stop for big yeast problems and a bad rash on

his arms. During this period of break we implemented his supplements

for chelation following Andy's instructions, we changed his yeast

protocol with one more effective, we made the following hair test

and the porphyrins test in France. The French test suggests a

remarkable mercury toxic effect, so we already know that my son is

mercury toxic and even if his autism is milder after almost 2 years

in chelation he still has autism, also after we collected the hair

samples for this test since mid – april we made 5 rounds of

chelation with ALA only, 5mg every 3 hours/4 hours by night, 3 days

ON / 11 days OFF and we already saw good gains and only some minor

side effects, so I know this is our way to go.

Regarding the hair test, I understand it's suspicious for meeting

the counting rule n.° 1, I'm studying Andy's books at the moment,

but English is not my mother – language and I'd like to hear your

wise opinions especially about:

thyroid? (seems a little low to me but I don't know how to proceed

in curing it). I see lead is in the green, but do you think it's

wise to add from time to time to the ALA rounds also low doses of

DMSA just in case of hidden lead in the bones? In your experience do

you think this is a rather good profile or you think my son has

still a very long way to go with chelation? Other thoughts? Thanks a

lot for your time!

HAIR

MALE

AGE: 5 years old

POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

TOXIC ELEMENTS RESULT REFERENCE PERCENTILE

Aluminum 5,7 < 8.0 green

Antimony 0, 048 < 0.066 green

Arsenic 0.069 < 0.080 green

Beryllium < 0.01 < 0.020 (nothing)

Bismuth 0.003 < 2.0 green

Cadmium 0.059 < 0.15 green

Lead 0.75 < 1.0 green

Mercury 0.73 < 0.40 yellow

Platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 (nothing)

Thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 (nothing)

Thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 (nothing)

Uranium 0.032 < 0.060 green

Nickel 0.30 < 0.40 green

Silver 0.07 < 0.20 green

Tin 0,16 < 0.30 green

Titanium 0,56 < 1.0 green

Total low yellow

ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

RESULT REFERENCE PERCENTILE

Calcium 761 125 – 370 yellow, right side

Magnesium 400 12-30 red off chart, right side

Sodium 17 12-90 green left side

Potassium 31 12 – 40 white

Copper 11 8-16 white

Zinc 220 100-190 yellow, right side

Manganese 0.17 0.20-0.55 yellow left side

Chromium 0.46 0.26-0.50 green, right side

Vanadium 0.035 0.030-0.10 green, left side

Molybdenum 0.056 0.050-0.13 green, left side

Boron 0.85 0.60-4.0 green, left side

Iodine 0.15 0.25-1.3 yellow, left side

Lithium <0.004 0.007- 0.023 red, left side, off chart

Phosphorus 192 160-250 green, left side

Selenium 1.0 0.95-1.7 green, left side

Strontium 0.94 0.16-1.0 green, right side

Sulfur 48800 45500 - 53000 green, right side

Barium 0.33 0.16-0.80 white

Cobalt 0.013 0.013- 0.035 green, left side

Iron 13 8.0-19 green, right side

Germanium 0.034 0.045- 0.065 yellow left side

Rubidium 0.050 0.016-0.18 white

Zirconium 0.030 0.040-1.0 yellow, left side

Gold 0.07 0.0-0.10 green right side

ELEMENTS RATIOS RANGE

Ca/Mg 1.9 4- 30

Ca/P 3.96 0,8 - 8

Na/K 0.548 0.5- 10

Zn/Cu 20 4- 20

Zn/Cd >999 > 800

Lab: Doctors Data

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Are you looking at the " scatter pattern " in the files? REALLY important for

understanding hair tests.

Barb

[ ] help with hair test results

Hi everyone,

I originally started reading messages on this board because of my

mother, who is mercury toxic; being worried for her, I recently

ordered hair tests for my two kids to check their status. Neither of

them are autistic but both have food sensitivities (gluten, casein,

corn for my son; gluten for my daughter).

My son's results (he's 4) are fairly normal (in the yellow for arsenic

only) but my daughter's results (she just turned 2) are in the yellow

for a number of toxic elements (aluminum, antimony, arsenic, lead,

mercury, silver, and tin) and almost in the red for a number of

essential elements. I have posted the pdf of her results in the files

section under hair test results (Suvajdzic, Kaya).

While I realize that her results are not catastrophic and most likely

do not point to mercury toxicity, I am worried that some of her levels

are as high as they are. My two kids have pretty much the same diet,

same daily schedule, etc, so I'm wondering why my daughter's results

are so much higher than my son's. The only difference is that my

daughter is still nursing, so I'm worried that the toxicity is coming

from me (I didn't test myself, since from what I understand

breastfeeding skews results). My mom is mercury toxic, and I do have 5

amalgams.

All of the people on this board are so knowledgeable; I have learned

so much from just reading your posts. Is there anyone who can point me

in the right direction with this? Should I try chelation with her? Try

supplements alone and test again in three months? Wean her

immediately? Is there some way to find out if the toxicity really is

coming from me? I'd appreciate any info you could give me.

Thanks,

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From: carriesuvajdzic

Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 5:20 AM

Subject: [ ] help with hair test results

Hi everyone,

I originally started reading messages on this board because of my

mother, who is mercury toxic; being worried for her, I recently

ordered hair tests for my two kids to check their status. Neither of

them are autistic but both have food sensitivities (gluten, casein,

corn for my son; gluten for my daughter).

My son's results (he's 4) are fairly normal (in the yellow for arsenic

only) but my daughter's results (she just turned 2) are in the yellow

for a number of toxic elements (aluminum, antimony, arsenic, lead,

mercury, silver, and tin) and almost in the red for a number of

essential elements. I have posted the pdf of her results in the files

section under hair test results (Suvajdzic, Kaya).

*Has your daughter had recent vaccines? That would explain mercury and

aluminum. Carseats, strollers, etc are full of arsenic and antimony. Check

www.danasview.net/metals for sources of exposure and reduce/remove.

While I realize that her results are not catastrophic and most likely

do not point to mercury toxicity,

*You have to apply the counting rules to look for mercury toxicity.

I am worried that some of her levels

are as high as they are. My two kids have pretty much the same diet,

same daily schedule, etc, so I'm wondering why my daughter's results

are so much higher than my son's. The only difference is that my

daughter is still nursing, so I'm worried that the toxicity is coming

from me (I didn't test myself, since from what I understand

breastfeeding skews results).

*Some on this list have sent breastmilk to DDI for testing.

My mom is mercury toxic, and I do have 5

amalgams.

All of the people on this board are so knowledgeable; I have learned

so much from just reading your posts. Is there anyone who can point me

in the right direction with this? Should I try chelation with her? Try

supplements alone and test again in three months? Wean her

immediately? Is there some way to find out if the toxicity really is

coming from me? I'd appreciate any info you could give me.

Thanks,

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Comments below....

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>My two kids have pretty much the same diet,

> same daily schedule, etc, so I'm wondering why my daughter's results

> are so much higher than my son's. The only difference is that my

> daughter is still nursing, so I'm worried that the toxicity is

coming

> from me (I didn't test myself, since from what I understand

> breastfeeding skews results). My mom is mercury toxic, and I do

have 5

> amalgams.

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....I wanted to comment on the breastfeeding. I did two hair tests

for my migraine girl...I had baby hair saved, she was 2yo at time of

tests...her baby hair results were waaayyy high, her 2yo results

looked more " normal. " She nursed to very close to 4yo...I did alot

of info slams...I found the " scary " info...I found no balancing info -

no one is looking for the " positives. " It is all negative

investigating - which does not provide a big enough picture...For me,

bits and pieces of info, like learning about fluoride issues & then

learning that the more fluoride in environment, the less in

breastmilk - helped me " keep faith " in body smarts...which I totally

believe in....I have a filling, and a history of other myriad toxic

exposures, and I did worry quite a bit...but at this end of it, I

continue to believe nursing was the " best " answer...and, my opinion

is that if the alternative is commercial formulas/milk, then nursing

is the better option....I did take add'l supps with her needs in

mind, while nursing...that was sooo nice...getting supps in place

with her is Hard...lol..

Additionally, my two migraine kids (4yo & 16yo, and the youngest of

the whole bunch) were the " longest " nursers. They are the two, who

while I was pregnant/nursing, I can confirm acute and chronic toxic

exposures. (for example, cleanup of a broken fluor. light) They are

the only two, who would not have, at any point, been put on

the " autism spectrum. " imho....The other three, certainly could have,

and could be put on the spectrum - more high functioning some years

than others, but definitely would qualify...again, imho.

Sooo, I still lean towards nursing - Whenever there is an ability & a

desire to do so.

fwiw

wishing you the best answers

elizabeth

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There are five counting rules. If she's meets ANY of them it's likely she's

mercury toxic.

S S

Re: help with hair test results

Posted by: " carriesuvajdzic " carriesuvajdzic@... carriesuvajdzic

Sat Mar 8, 2008 11:15 pm (PST)

Many thanks to all who replied. I am looking for scattered results and

it seems to me that that is what I am seeing, but nothing for my

daughter is in the red zone and from what I understand that's where

you look. Her mercury is .6, though, when " normal " range is less than

..4, so she's already 50% higher than acceptable and of course no

amount of mercury is good. That is one reason why I am considering

chelation, besides just the large number of various toxic substances

she's showing in the yellow for.

She has not had any vaccinations since she was 1 yr old (a year ago)

so I wouldn't think that those old ones would show up as recent

exposure on the hair test, unless I'm mistaken.

Interesting idea to send breast milk in for testing...I will call DDI

and see how I could work that out. I'm overseas so I don't know how

quickly I could get it there without it going bad. I am not totally

against weaning her--she is plenty old enough now that she doesn't

really NEED to nurse, but I hate the idea of forcefully weaning when

she isn't ready, especially since I'm not 100% sure that the toxins

are coming from me.

Aggghhh so much to think about!

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