Newbie here with questions

[Guest guest]

Ok, if you husband has Asperger's, are you looking for a cure? Many

Asperger adults don't have not much personality, not really a very social

person but are highly intelligent people. Not the end of the world. Now if

he's very unhappy, angry, then searching to help, by all means. What is it

you want to " correct? "

My husband too is most likely on the spectrum. Didn't have a good school

support back then, just got by. But he's very intelligent, loving, great

career, successful, he's happy. Life isn't perfect but he's doing great in

life.

Anyway..

Tammy

[ ] newbie here with questions

Hi,

My name is and my husband has Asperger's. He hasn't been

diagnosed, but I'm very sure of it. However, he does not believe me

and is not at all interested in going to any doctors to have any blood

tests done. I have been successful in getting him to start taking

supplements. He is taking digestive enzymes, probiotics, broad based

amino acids, individual aminos (tryptophan, tyrosine, taurine,

glutamine), chelated zinc (50mg 2x), chelated calcium/magnesium

(500/250mg 2x), omega 3/6/9, vitamin c (500mg 2x), and B complex

(100mg 2x) and whole food vitamins/minerals.

I am very interested in the heavy metal chelation, but don't

completely understand it. I have to do all this without doctor

supervision. Can anyone give me suggestions or advice on what I'm

already doing and/or on chelation?

I also have 3 daughters (ages 10,7,3). My 7 year old is dyslexic -

again I diagnosed her myself. lol. She is taking enzymes, omega 3,

and probiotics too. I'm wanting to try aminos too. Could chelation

benefit her?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Why? A progression of thoughts from someone who has been there with an

equally great guy, my now 18 yo son:

With my son, it was mostly the odd " tics " as he liked to call them that

people noticed. Underneath it all though, there was also the OCD -

especially when it came to his schedule. Also, the sudden, random fits

of temper - which were never pointed at people, but he still didn't like

when finally recognized because of the uncontrollability of them. (We

didn't like them long before he ever recognized them) Also, he had a

serious communication block in the way when he was upset. In lucid

moments, when he wasn't too upset to talk, he described it as knowing

what he wanted to say, having all the words, but he couldn't get the

words to his mouth. None of these things would seem all that unusual in

our society today, so why bother messing with it?

Everyone thinks of him (and thought of him before we started biomed) as

well adjusted, quiet, loving, happy and just a great guy. But, we and

he had also gotten used to his issues; they made him who he was. When

we discovered the yeast connection, and then slowly started adding other

things, like zinc, antivirals, he didn't even really notice the

changes. Then, he stopped being as diligent, as 17yos will, and started

to slide back. As he slid back to the old behaviors, for the first time

in his life he NOTICED them!!! :-) He didn't like them when he realized

they weren't part of every day life. To be honest, we didn't notice

many of them, or attribute them to his ASD until we got to this board

and started making connections and then started treating and saw issues

we thought were odd personality quirks go away. He has made more

friends, has been more comfortable in public situations, and has been

doing great. I guess with him, as time wears on it isn't even so much

that there were undesirable quirks that we wanted gone, as I just knew

when I started learning more here, that it meant he had health issues

that could be addressed and should be. I don't know what the mercury

would mean for him when he reaches 50, and I don't want to find out. He

was happy and adjusted, in spite of it, but what health issues might

show up later for my little genius that everyone loves?

Anyway, in treating him, he has become even more lovable, likable,

intelligent and loving. All his friends and family have noticed great

improvement and more of his happy-go-lucky self coming out. So, not a

bad thing, and better for him in the long run. We also no longer have

to worry about the yearly ills of his sore throats that were previously

untreatable due to antibiotic allergies - now we just watch for signs

he's getting yeasty again and don't get that far. We haven't started

chelation yet. At his age I need to get him used to the idea of taking

supps and maybe even deal with some of the viral issues, which we are

addressing. I was hoping to get him to the point that he saw the point

of it all, at which I think we have finally arrived. I know that he

will be more helpful with the chelation if he understands it is more

progress. Whereas before, he didn't understand that anything was for a

benefit, since he didn't notice that anything was odd. The first time

he threw a major fit when he was regressing because he wasn't taking his

supplements he broke something of his that he really liked, and he

noticed! For the first time, he was able to speak clearly during upset

and let me know that it wasn't so much what he broke, but the out of

control feeling that bothered him. He has seen more since he finally

made the connection of understanding and feeling his own reactions. I

think we are finally ready for chelation, and I wouldn't want to deny

him that just because we loved him the way he was. I think he deserves

better health and control.

That's my take. I will admit that at times I feel bad for making him

better (but I quickly get over it). He was offered a music scholarship

at the college of his choice. Part of his musical genius I believe

comes from his condition and the OCD. But, I still think the health

trade off is well worth it. He still has the knowledge, just the OCD

drive has wained, and he will be on the same footing as most of the

other kids. He'll need to practice for practice's sake, not because he

is obsessed. Probably more healthful in the long run too.

P.

Tamara Kuhn wrote:

>

> Ok, if you husband has Asperger's, are you looking for a cure? Many

> Asperger adults don't have not much personality, not really a very social

> person but are highly intelligent people. Not the end of the world. Now if

> he's very unhappy, angry, then searching to help, by all means. What is it

> you want to " correct? "

>

> My husband too is most likely on the spectrum. Didn't have a good school

> support back then, just got by. But he's very intelligent, loving, great

> career, successful, he's happy. Life isn't perfect but he's doing great in

> life.

>

> Anyway..

>

> Tammy

>

> [ ] newbie here with questions

>

> Hi,

> My name is and my husband has Asperger's. He hasn't been

> diagnosed, but I'm very sure of it. However, he does not believe me

> and is not at all interested in going to any doctors to have any blood

> tests done. I have been successful in getting him to start taking

> supplements. He is taking digestive enzymes, probiotics, broad based

> amino acids, individual aminos (tryptophan, tyrosine, taurine,

> glutamine), chelated zinc (50mg 2x), chelated calcium/magnesium

> (500/250mg 2x), omega 3/6/9, vitamin c (500mg 2x), and B complex

> (100mg 2x) and whole food vitamins/minerals.

>

> I am very interested in the heavy metal chelation, but don't

> completely understand it. I have to do all this without doctor

> supervision. Can anyone give me suggestions or advice on what I'm

> already doing and/or on chelation?

>

> I also have 3 daughters (ages 10,7,3). My 7 year old is dyslexic -

> again I diagnosed her myself. lol. She is taking enzymes, omega 3,

> and probiotics too. I'm wanting to try aminos too. Could chelation

> benefit her?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey, I take offense to the 'not much personality' comment!

I'm not Aspergers, but I know quite a few moms/dads in this and other

do have an Aspergers diagnosis. I know 3 little boys

with Aspergers who have oodles of personality. I think you are

fueling an old and outdated stereotype.

As far as approaching a person with treatment options, it might be

best to address the physical symptoms (yeast, GI issues,

concentration, depression, anxiety) rather than treating Asperger's,

so to speak. If and when he feels better, he might become more open

to interventions and perhaps chelation.

He is an adult. You can research chelation in the Files section or

archives. Does your husband have dental amalgams? They will need to

be removed and replaced with composites before he chelates.

Pam

>

> Ok, if you husband has Asperger's, are you looking for a cure? Many

> Asperger adults don't have not much personality, not really a very

social

> person but are highly intelligent people. Not the end of the

world. Now if

> he's very unhappy, angry, then searching to help, by all means.

What is it

> you want to " correct? "

>

>

>

> My husband too is most likely on the spectrum. Didn't have a good

school

> support back then, just got by. But he's very intelligent, loving,

great

> career, successful, he's happy. Life isn't perfect but he's doing

great in

> life.

>

>

>

> Anyway..

>

>

>

> Tammy

>

>

>

>

>

> [ ] newbie here with questions

>

>

>

> Hi,

> My name is and my husband has Asperger's. He hasn't been

> diagnosed, but I'm very sure of it. However, he does not believe me

> and is not at all interested in going to any doctors to have any

blood

> tests done. I have been successful in getting him to start taking

> supplements. He is taking digestive enzymes, probiotics, broad based

> amino acids, individual aminos (tryptophan, tyrosine, taurine,

> glutamine), chelated zinc (50mg 2x), chelated calcium/magnesium

> (500/250mg 2x), omega 3/6/9, vitamin c (500mg 2x), and B complex

> (100mg 2x) and whole food vitamins/minerals.

>

> I am very interested in the heavy metal chelation, but don't

> completely understand it. I have to do all this without doctor

> supervision. Can anyone give me suggestions or advice on what I'm

> already doing and/or on chelation?

>

> I also have 3 daughters (ages 10,7,3). My 7 year old is dyslexic -

> again I diagnosed her myself. lol. She is taking enzymes, omega 3,

> and probiotics too. I'm wanting to try aminos too. Could chelation

> benefit her?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Chelation can benefit dyslexia. Dyslexia Andy has said in his book is

from mercury poisoning. I would also have a developmental optometrist

check her out. She may have eye muscle coordination issue or some

other mercury related problem with vision like my son. This does not

mean she needs glasses. Sometimes mercury causes problems with the way

the brain interprets what the eye sees. This improves or goes away

with chelation but still needs to be looked into so they don't' fail

school.

As for adults, you husband may not see what he has the same way you

do. He may be content with himself, in which case..there's nothing you

can do but work on yourself and your kids. Which is what I have to do

in my house. We are both Hg toxic, but he wants nothing to do with

treatment or improving his health. (which makes me angry, but I can't

force him). You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

As for the chelation..we do it without a doctor too. Just read the

files section of this board. It will teach you what you need to know.

>

>

>

>

> [ ] newbie here with questions

>

>

>

> Hi,

> My name is and my husband has Asperger's. He hasn't been

> diagnosed, but I'm very sure of it. However, he does not believe me

> and is not at all interested in going to any doctors to have any blood

> tests done. I have been successful in getting him to start taking

> supplements. He is taking digestive enzymes, probiotics, broad based

> amino acids, individual aminos (tryptophan, tyrosine, taurine,

> glutamine), chelated zinc (50mg 2x), chelated calcium/magnesium

> (500/250mg 2x), omega 3/6/9, vitamin c (500mg 2x), and B complex

> (100mg 2x) and whole food vitamins/minerals.

>

> I am very interested in the heavy metal chelation, but don't

> completely understand it. I have to do all this without doctor

> supervision. Can anyone give me suggestions or advice on what I'm

> already doing and/or on chelation?

>

> I also have 3 daughters (ages 10,7,3). My 7 year old is dyslexic -

> again I diagnosed her myself. lol. She is taking enzymes, omega 3,

> and probiotics too. I'm wanting to try aminos too. Could chelation

> benefit her?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>Posted by: " angela_lockwood " lockwood1993@... angela_lockwood

>Date: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:47 am ((PDT))

>Hi,

>My name is and my husband has Asperger's. He hasn't been

>diagnosed, but I'm very sure of it. However, he does not believe me

>and is not at all interested in going to any doctors to have any blood

>tests done.

. There are no blood tests that would do any good to look for Asperger's,

or mercury poisoning for that matter, unless you have had a recent exposure. A

hair test from DDI (Doctor's Data) might be able to tell you something.

>I have been successful in getting him to start taking

>supplements. He is taking digestive enzymes, probiotics, broad based

>amino acids, individual aminos (tryptophan, tyrosine, taurine,

>glutamine), chelated zinc (50mg 2x), chelated calcium/magnesium

>(500/250mg 2x), omega 3/6/9, vitamin c (500mg 2x), and B complex

>(100mg 2x) and whole food vitamins/minerals.

>I am very interested in the heavy metal chelation, but don't

>completely understand it. I have to do all this without doctor

>supervision. Can anyone give me suggestions or advice on what I'm

>already doing and/or on chelation?

First, you need to diagnose the problem. Look into the hair test, and then come

back to us with results.

>I also have 3 daughters (ages 10,7,3). My 7 year old is dyslexic -

>again I diagnosed her myself. lol. She is taking enzymes, omega 3,

>and probiotics too. I'm wanting to try aminos too. Could chelation

>benefit her?

Well, you might consider doing hair tests for them too. Perhaps including

yourself would be a good idea - make it a whole family project. Check out

directlabs.com, look for the " Hair Elements Test " (_not_ the " toxic elements

test " ) and let them know you are coming from this list as they will give you a

discount.

>Thanks,

>

Dave.

[Guest guest]

[ ] newbie here with questions

>

>

>

> Hi,

> My name is and my husband has Asperger's. He hasn't been

> diagnosed, but I'm very sure of it. However, he does not believe me

> and is not at all interested in going to any doctors to have any

blood

> tests done. I have been successful in getting him to start taking

> supplements. He is taking digestive enzymes, probiotics, broad based

> amino acids, individual aminos (tryptophan, tyrosine, taurine,

> glutamine), chelated zinc (50mg 2x), chelated calcium/magnesium

> (500/250mg 2x), omega 3/6/9, vitamin c (500mg 2x), and B complex

> (100mg 2x) and whole food vitamins/minerals.

>

> I am very interested in the heavy metal chelation, but don't

> completely understand it. I have to do all this without doctor

> supervision. Can anyone give me suggestions or advice on what I'm

> already doing and/or on chelation?

>

> I also have 3 daughters (ages 10,7,3). My 7 year old is dyslexic -

> again I diagnosed her myself. lol. She is taking enzymes, omega 3,

> and probiotics too. I'm wanting to try aminos too. Could chelation

> benefit her?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just a little note on the Aspie personality........my step son is an Aspie and I

understand how people can get the impression that there is a lack of

personality. However, he is one of the funniest, goofiest, interesting people I

know. He just can't show that side of himself until he feels really comfortable,

and sometimes that never happens. There is definetly many layers of anyone on

the spectrum.

As for your husband, does he feel unwell, or is there a reason why you are

interested in biomedical for him now?

<Ladyshrink111@...> wrote:

[ ] newbie here with questions

>

>

>

> Hi,

> My name is and my husband has Asperger's. He hasn't been

> diagnosed, but I'm very sure of it. However, he does not believe me

> and is not at all interested in going to any doctors to have any

blood

> tests done. I have been successful in getting him to start taking

> supplements. He is taking digestive enzymes, probiotics, broad based

> amino acids, individual aminos (tryptophan, tyrosine, taurine,

> glutamine), chelated zinc (50mg 2x), chelated calcium/magnesium

> (500/250mg 2x), omega 3/6/9, vitamin c (500mg 2x), and B complex

> (100mg 2x) and whole food vitamins/minerals.

>

> I am very interested in the heavy metal chelation, but don't

> completely understand it. I have to do all this without doctor

> supervision. Can anyone give me suggestions or advice on what I'm

> already doing and/or on chelation?

>

> I also have 3 daughters (ages 10,7,3). My 7 year old is dyslexic -

> again I diagnosed her myself. lol. She is taking enzymes, omega 3,

> and probiotics too. I'm wanting to try aminos too. Could chelation

> benefit her?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for everyone's advice. By the way, my husband does have a great

personality! That is simply not true... that people with AS don't have much

personality. I am very concerned about his health. I'm also concerned about

how this is affecting our marriage and his relationship with our daughters. I

would much rather fix the problem than go to counseling to fix the symptoms.

Pam,

you said to address the physical symptoms (yeast, GI issues, concentration,

depression, anxiety). I think and hope that I'm doing most of that with the

supplements that we are doing already. But, what about yeast? How do I know if

he has that and how do we treat it?

,

The story about your son was very encouraging. Could you tell me what all he

was taking? You said he didn't even notice the changes. Did you notice the

changes?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

> I am very interested in the heavy metal chelation, but don't

> completely understand it. I have to do all this without doctor

> supervision. Can anyone give me suggestions or advice on what I'm

> already doing and/or on chelation?

I am an AS adult and I have four kids, all of whom fell somewhere on

spectrum, from very severe to relatively mild. All of my kids have

been chelated, and I have chelated myself for about 1-1/2 years. I

use ALA, and did not use a doctor. My kids are almost done with most

of the supplements, and no longer qualify on spectrum, altho two of

them are still delayed in language. The other two are now NT.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> Ok, if you husband has Asperger's, are you looking for a cure? Many

> Asperger adults don't have not much personality, not really a very

social

> person but are highly intelligent people.

Okay, as an AS adult, I think I might be qualified to give my opinion

here. Your opinion may differ.

On the internet, this is the most common " negative " email I receive.

People write [usually nicely] and ask if I have any personality,

because none shows in my messages. This is actually a compliment to

me, because when I first started posting messages on message boards, I

tried to be " friendly " , and most replies I received were flames. So I

decided to write very blandly, without emotion or personality, like I

was reporting the prices of commodities futures, and apparently it is

working. But the benefit is, no flames.

Away from the computer, I am a trial attorney, so you can decide for

yourself whether you believe I would have a personality LOL

I am, however, not really a social person. And, considering that I am

an attorney, my intelligence is questionable in certain circles.

Okay, in most circles.

I decided to pursue biomedical for myself, as well as my kids [i have

four kids who were formerly on spectrum]. It has been VERY helpful in

many respects. My kids are recovered. I am possibly " too old " for

full recovery, having well-surpassed the magic age of

anti-discrimination legislation, but many of my issues have been

drastically reduced or even eliminated.

I have not had an easy life in the past, but the quality of my life

now is much better.

My oldest son is almost 14. He would have been dx AS if I had wanted

him dx. He was introverted and a loner when younger. Now he has lots

of friends, enjoys being with his friends, and otherwise has a great

life. He is social, intelligent, and definitely has a personality.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hello

On 15/03/2008, Tamara Kuhn <tkuhn1@...> wrote:

> Ok, if you husband has Asperger's, are you looking for a cure? Many

> Asperger adults don't have not much personality, not really a very social

> person but are highly intelligent people.

i am highly offended by that remark. You should see the people at the

local adult pub groups. None of them are boring as you imply.

--

is (offended)

[Guest guest]

Hello

On 15/03/2008, <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote:

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: noaholiviaian

>

>

>

> Hey, I take offense to the 'not much personality' comment!

>

>

> ====>I think this was an unfortunate choice of words, but I know what she

means. At 3, our little pdd-nos/Asperger was pretty dead pan, emotionally

speaking. And her dad, our sil, Mr. Almost Asperger does not get subtle jokes or

plays on words, neither did her Kindergarten teacher, btw, lots of them out

there.

There is more to personaility than getting jokes. My family love my

non sarcastic sense of humour.

>

> This deadpan was one of a long list of things we assumed were part of her

individual personality, it definitely wasn't.

Nope its an aspie thing.

--

is

[Guest guest]

Hello

On 16/03/2008, <lockwood1993@...> wrote:

> Thank you for everyone's advice. By the way, my husband does have a great

personality! That is simply not true... that people with AS don't have much

personality. I am very concerned about his health. I'm also concerned about

how this is affecting our marriage and his relationship with our daughters. I

would much rather fix the problem than go to counseling to fix the symptoms.

>

> Pam,

> you said to address the physical symptoms (yeast, GI issues, concentration,

depression, anxiety). I think and hope that I'm doing most of that with the

supplements that we are doing already. But, what about yeast? How do I know if

he has that and how do we treat it?

*im an aspie and i found that 5htp taken at night helped me sleep and

eased moderate depression. Does he forget to eat? If so then zinc

supplements can help. i found that omega oils, b6 and magnesium were

needed as well to help with my tempers.

>

> ,

> The story about your son was very encouraging. Could you tell me what all he

was taking? You said he didn't even notice the changes. Did you notice the

changes?

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

--

is

[Guest guest]

Yeast? Well, you could have him start taking Candex. I recommend

starting slowly, because I was knocked on my REAR when I took 1 pill

per day. I felt awful.

http://www.pureessencelabs.com/candex.php

Grapefruit seed extract helps. I used the pills.

http://www.nutribiotic.com/

Probiotics, if you don't use them, are a great overall health tool.

I think you said you altered your diet? Reducing sugar is good; more

than processed sugar is necessary for some with stubborn yeast (fruit

sugars, potatoes, too).

Here is a list of the more common symptoms of yeast overgrowth in men

(scroll down a bit):

http://gentlebirth.org/archives/yeast.html

Take care,

Pam

>

> Thank you for everyone's advice. By the way, my husband does have

a great personality! That is simply not true... that people with AS

don't have much personality. I am very concerned about his health.

I'm also concerned about how this is affecting our marriage and his

relationship with our daughters. I would much rather fix the

problem than go to counseling to fix the symptoms.

>

> Pam,

> you said to address the physical symptoms (yeast, GI issues,

concentration, depression, anxiety). I think and hope that I'm doing

most of that with the supplements that we are doing already. But,

what about yeast? How do I know if he has that and how do we treat

it?

>

> ,

> The story about your son was very encouraging. Could you tell me

what all he was taking? You said he didn't even notice the changes.

Did you notice the changes?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My 2 1/2 year old has been diagnosed with Sensory Processing Disorder.

We have undergone OT to help with her touch issues and constant

jumping. enzymes, diet, etc were never mentioned to me. I read a book

called Raising a Sensory Smart Child and discovered the nutrition

aspect of this. She could not take dairy as a newborn (through my

breastmilk) and already has allergies to strawberries. I am concerned

that milk and pasta that she eats constantly is causing her

hyperactivity and aggressiveness. She is so aggressive that my

pregnant sister is scared to bring her newborn around my daughter. No

form of punishment has worked for her.

I do not know what kind of enzymes to try and the dosage. If anyone

could help me with this, I would greatly appreciate any advice that

you could give.

I considered scheduling appt with a nutritionist to find out about the

enzymes and just stumbled across this discussion group today. What a

blessing this is going to be to me.

Thanks for any advice. Appreciate it.

Tara in GA.

[Guest guest]

Hi Collen,

It's considered part of the fat intake. So are the supplements that are " oils " .

Coconut Oil is a powerful antifungal, so start with a small amount and work up.

jackie

>

> I'm almost done going through the files and i'd like to know if the coconut

oil that I'm supposed to take is included in the amount of fat that's allowed

daily or is it in addition to the fat intake

>

> Thanks

> Colleen

>