Re: Opening pandora's box...enzymes??

[Guest guest]

There are a couple of enzymes that come from fruits- bromelain and

another one, don't have the name with me right now, papain?. They can

cause phenol reactions. I made sure to get ours without these enzymes.

>

> Does anyone have any info or can anyone share personal experience

with

> the following...

>

> ok, my son has had food issues since birth. after starting neocate

> things were better then when going gfcfrfefoftfbfnf things were even

> better BUT at no point did he have formed BM's and they were always

> yellowish/orangish/brownish in color. with the diet change he no

> longer had red cheeks but his moods were not the best.

>

> so, the GI said take enzymes & probiotics. we chose to start with

the

> enzymes about almost a year of being on the strict diet. so far

we've

> tried 4 different types of enzymes and have come to the conclusion

its

> not the enzymes but its our lil guy. we've also started probiotics

> recently, which those questions are in my other posts.

>

> anyway, trying to get to the point...any time the enzymes were used

he

> would get red cheeks and has meltdown personality. now, we have

been

> OFF any enzyme for over 2 weeks and no matter what he eats he has

red

> cheeks.

>

> why is this happening now? with the diet change those red cheeks

> stopped. why does he continue to have red cheeks after eating or

> drinking ANYTHING.

>

> is it possible the enzymes have made him more sensitive than he

was?

> things that didn't bother him before NOW after using enzymes for

only

> bout 6months bother him!!! he is actually worse than when we

started

> using enzymes. i wish i could go back and not use them (in his

case).

> i don't want this statement to deter anyone from using these...my

son

> is very different the whole population lol!

>

> has anyone seen this with their child and how, if at all, was it

> rectified. what i'm i missing???

>

[Guest guest]

> ok, my son has had food issues since birth. after starting neocate

> things were better then when going gfcfrfefoftfbfnf things were even

> better BUT at no point did he have formed BM's and they were always

> yellowish/orangish/brownish in color.

Orange tint to the bm, especially if also rather runny, was caused by

carotene conversion issues for my son. I had to remove all carotene

foods [all orange and green foods, many yellow and red foods] until I

corrected his carotene conversion problem.

> anyway, trying to get to the point...any time the enzymes were used he

> would get red cheeks and has meltdown personality. now, we have been

> OFF any enzyme for over 2 weeks and no matter what he eats he has red

> cheeks.

That is a common sign of phenol issues, altho can mean other issues also

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

> is it possible the enzymes have made him more sensitive than he was?

It is possible that the enzymes have changed his reaction to foods

that the enzymes are not addressing. This did happen with my son and

carotene foods.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana,

Our son too has had orange/yellow/reddish stools that have been foul

and runny. I have tried to research this with no results. THis all

started for us after his 9 month old DTaP shots and an ER visit a

week later from severe diahrea and lots of rectal bleeding.

Thanks for all the info...very helful!

Heidi

> > ok, my son has had food issues since birth. after starting

neocate

> > things were better then when going gfcfrfefoftfbfnf things were

even

> > better BUT at no point did he have formed BM's and they were

always

> > yellowish/orangish/brownish in color.

>

>

> Orange tint to the bm, especially if also rather runny, was caused

by

> carotene conversion issues for my son. I had to remove all carotene

> foods [all orange and green foods, many yellow and red foods] until

I

> corrected his carotene conversion problem.

>

>

> > anyway, trying to get to the point...any time the enzymes were

used he

> > would get red cheeks and has meltdown personality. now, we have

been

> > OFF any enzyme for over 2 weeks and no matter what he eats he has

red

> > cheeks.

>

>

> That is a common sign of phenol issues, altho can mean other issues

also

>

> http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

>

>

> > is it possible the enzymes have made him more sensitive than he

was?

>

>

> It is possible that the enzymes have changed his reaction to foods

> that the enzymes are not addressing. This did happen with my son

and

> carotene foods.

>

> Dana

>