pca-rx

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And what is PCA - spray..Geir FlatabøOn 11/10/06, Mandy <Mandy_Roemer@...> wrote:

I have 3 new sealed bottle's of PCA-Rx (spray).

Is anybody interested taking them over?

I life in the Netherlands but can send the parcel everywhere. For payment you can use paypal.

Make me an offer if I can make somebody happy.

Mandy

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Does anyone have any experiences, info or feedback on PCA-rx??? its

supposed to be a safe way to chelate kids..

b est wishes 4 a happy new year!!

toni in nj

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Actually, that is correct to a point. " Crossing the blood brain barrier

is a GOOD thing. it means that the

ingredients are able to chlatharate the mercury and other heavy

metals from the brain. "

Crossing the BBB is good AND bad. If the chelator isn't dosed safely,

as it appears that PCA-rx may not be, then when the ALA (only chelator I

saw in the product ) wears off the mercury drops where it is, whether

inside or outside the brain, but definitely not where it started. ALA

has a half-life, and if not dosed on the half life, then you run the

risk of redistribution. That is why the low and slow doses for 3 day

rounds. Even then, stopping the round can cause redistribution. Andy,

being a chemist, can speak to this much more effectively than I can, but

in a nutshell, that is it.

Yes, each child is different. Some do well on only ALA chelation, while

others needs DMSA first to deal with major metals before opening the

pathway to the brain. But, it is up to each parent to get all the info

they can, and then judge for their family and child which is the best,

safest method. My ultimate goal for my family is to use the absolute

safest method possible. Knowing that we have definite signs of mercury

poisoning without having to do any test - it is that obvious, and

knowing that I don't want the BBB opened until we clean up some, we will

start with DMSA. I'm sorely tempted to just try ALA from the start and

even try the 8 hour dosing; it sounds easier if it works for us, but I

know it could make things much more difficult. I honestly don't want to

deal with the repercussions if my child wasn't one who could handle that

and it sets us back not forward. I've yet to hear of anyone who had

problems doing the low dose/frequent dose as compared to the other

options and had to go to higher doses less frequently. So, in my

situation, that is the safest, easiest means to address the issue.

As someone else pointed out, ALA is not expensive, but the PCA-rx is.

Now, if I knew a person wasn't mercury toxic, the PCA-rx looks like an

interesting combination of supplements and beneficial bacteria, which

would help a person. So, what we might be talking about in reality, is a

difference of levels of toxicity and needs.

As far as muscle test, that is a new one on me. It would be

interesting to hear more about what it entails and the actual chemistry

behind muscle testing for metals.

P.

kimmymarin wrote:

>

> Crossing the blood brain barrier is a GOOD thing. it means that the

> ingredients are able to chlatharate the mercury and other heavy

> metals from the brain. most chelators can not get access to the

> brain and therefore can not remove it from the brain. in addition,

> this product forms bonds with heavy metals in THREE locations opposed

> to only one bond formed with traditional chelators. this means that

> it is not very likely to be picked up in one location and deposited

> somewhere else in the body. it will be excreted without further

> harm. i am sure there are children who react poorly to this

> supplement (it is a fermented product) as there will be children who

> react poorly to any number of supplements. overall i have seen very

> positive effects with this product, confirmed by lab tests with my

> patients. if you have a practitioner the does NAET, they can treat

> your child for the supplement before use and lower the risk of

> negative side effects. remember, no two children are alike and every

> childs treatment must be individualized. i have also found through

> muscle testing that not every child should go about the treatments in

> the same order. it may be that one child needs step C before he is

> ready for step A and vice-versa. muscle testing is an invaluable

> tool for your childs recovery and i do recommend parents learn how to

> do it. it really helps with guidance as to where to go next with

> your child.

>

> Marin AP, RD

> Acupuncture Physician and Registered Dietitian

> 12651 West Sunrise Boulevard

> #202

> Sunrise, FL 33323

> Office: 954.835.2345

> Cell: 954.871.3300

> Fax: 954.838.9192

>

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>

> " He who has health has hope, and he who has hope has everything. "

> Carlyle

>

>

> >

> >

> > There has been lots of discussion about PCA-Rx on this list, check

> the archives. Not recommended. Consider oral ALA/DMSA chelation on

> Andy's protocol if you want to help your child.

> > S S

> >

>

>

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> I did start out with four sprays of pca-rx. I called the company after

> the first day. He said I didn't have to put it in the mouth. I did put

> it in another place besides my mouth today.

When the company said that you did not have to put PCA-Rx in the mouth,

where else did they suggest you put it?

Marc

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They said I could put it in my ear, on my skin, and if I still wanted to put it

in my mouth, I could spray once or twice, then rinse. They thought maybe since I

still have one amalgam filling it might be causing the metallic taste.

Amy

Re: PCA-Rx

> I did start out with four sprays of pca-rx. I called the company after

> the first day. He said I didn't have to put it in the mouth. I did put

> it in another place besides my mouth today.

When the company said that you did not have to put PCA-Rx in the mouth,

where else did they suggest you put it?

Marc

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> They said I could put it in my ear, on my skin, and if I still wanted to

> put it in my mouth, I could spray once or twice, then rinse. They thought

> maybe since I still have one amalgam filling it might be causing the

> metallic taste.

Okay, thanks!

Note that I had my fillings out 8 years ago, and I *still* get a metallic

taste when detoxing too fast.

Marc

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marc@... writes:

I'm interested in your reaction to PCA-Rx -- I also had a fairly nasty

reaction to PCA-Rx at first, so much that I stopped taking it rather

quickly. But it sounds like you stuck with it and the bad reaction

went away?

Hi Marc~ Yes, I stuck with it. At first it was so bad I didn't take it for a

few days. When I first got the bottle I was so excited I gave myself at least

four sprays. I think more sprays at night that same night. The next day,

HELL came to visit! lol I ended up calling the company, who called the

manufacturer to see if my symptoms were 'normal'. They hadn't heard of someone

feeling

so badly with it, but a lot of their consumers are autistic children. So I

went down to one spray once a day, then twice, and kept upping it. I never

took more than four sprays at a time though, and only twice a day at the most.

It got to where if I was feeling bad from the lights or computers, it would

actually make me feel better. Maybe that's a placebo effect, I don't know. I

do know I have a long way to go to get better, so I'm buying another bottle of

that and then some Samento (sp.?) because I really want to try that.

Amy

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> Well, before I started and finished (just recently) a bottle of that

> pca-rx, (that made me horrible ill when I first started!) I would react

> within 1-5 minutes being under fluorescent, but lately it's taken a

> longer to get an effect.

I'm interested in your reaction to PCA-Rx -- I also had a fairly nasty

reaction to PCA-Rx at first, so much that I stopped taking it rather

quickly. But it sounds like you stuck with it and the bad reaction

went away?

Marc

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Thanks for inadvertently reminding me that is one more thing I want to try,

the NDF. I should also add that the pca rx did NOT do anything to help with

my wifi problem. I can tolerate the desktop better, but not the wifi. That is

such a huge problem for me still, but I do believe heavy metals are still

part of the problem. I'm guessing it will take 2-3 years if I keep myself on

constant protocol of some sort. At least I'm prepared for it to take that long.

I've been sick since '96 or '97 so what's another year or two!

Amy

marc@... writes:

That's probably a real effect -- if heavy metals are what's causing you

to be ES, then something which binds to and eliminates heavy metals

should make you feel better. I've felt better from the computer after

taking a small dose of NDF, but like the PCA-Rx, you don't want to

try a large dose of NDF unless you've cautiously built up to (probably

over the course of years) that dose.

Marc

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I have an old bottle of this. I think I'll try it again if it possibly will make

me less sensitive. Loni

From: javamdnss@... <javamdnss@...>

Subject: Re: PCA-Rx

Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 11:45 AM

marcufoseries (DOT) com writes:

I'm interested in your reaction to PCA-Rx -- I also had a fairly nasty

reaction to PCA-Rx at first, so much that I stopped taking it rather

quickly. But it sounds like you stuck with it and the bad reaction

went away?

Hi Marc~ Yes, I stuck with it. At first it was so bad I didn't take it for a

few days. When I first got the bottle I was so excited I gave myself at least

four sprays. I think more sprays at night that same night. The next day,

HELL came to visit! lol I ended up calling the company, who called the

manufacturer to see if my symptoms were 'normal'. They hadn't heard of someone

feeling

so badly with it, but a lot of their consumers are autistic children. So I

went down to one spray once a day, then twice, and kept upping it. I never

took more than four sprays at a time though, and only twice a day at the most.

It got to where if I was feeling bad from the lights or computers, it would

actually make me feel better. Maybe that's a placebo effect, I don't know. I

do know I have a long way to go to get better, so I'm buying another bottle of

that and then some Samento (sp.?) because I really want to try that.

Amy

************ **From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay

up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com? ncid=emlcntaolco m00000023)

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> It got to where if I was feeling bad from the lights or computers, it

> would actually make me feel better. Maybe that's a placebo effect, I don't

> know.

That's probably a real effect -- if heavy metals are what's causing you

to be ES, then something which binds to and eliminates heavy metals

should make you feel better. I've felt better from the computer after

taking a small dose of NDF, but like the PCA-Rx, you don't want to

try a large dose of NDF unless you've cautiously built up to (probably

over the course of years) that dose.

Marc