New member question

Posted October 2, 2007 · October 2, 2007

I live in CA and recently enrolled my son in a private preschool. He

is partially vaccinated. I just signed the philosophical exemption

on the blue card. I got no hassles.

(Max's Mom)

>

> Hey, all. I'm Angie, mom to two (one with autism) and babysitter of

two

> on the spectrum as well. I have a really quick question that I need

> answered soon, if anyone can help. We live in Ca, and I have an

> immunization exemption question. My neighbor, the one I babysit

for, is

> going to be enrolling her three yr. old in the public preschool

that

> belongs to one of the schools here. She has immunized on time, up

until

> she met me and I got hold of her! Ha! Now, her IEP meeting is

coming

> up, or should I say it's continued. They stopped midway through the

> meeting so the school psych. could get to another meeting. Here's

our

> problem. I have heard of people getting hassled if they have

previously

> immunized their kids, and then apply for an exemption. Does anyone

have

> any experience with this? I told her she has the right to change

her

> mind at any point, but we want to know before she walks in, what to

> expect and what her rights are. Also, the lady that comes to see

her

> son twice a week from creative home services said that the 'laws

were

> changing and parents aren't allowed to exempt their kids,' which I

told

> her was bull, but wanted to know if anyone has caught wind of this

and

> whether it's just a rumor, or simply someone not knowing what

they're

> talking about. Any ideas on all of this?

>

Posted October 2, 2007 · October 2, 2007

I live in CA and my son splits his time between public special day class and

private preschool

- both schools accepted my waiver for not doing any boosters. I also had

concerns about my

daughter, who just started a private Kindergarten, and all they needed was my

signature on

the waiver as well. They both were vaccinated up until my son's diagnosis last

year. Neither

will ever receive another vaccine. I was so nervous about it because I thought

they might

revoke my daughter's acceptance, but it ended up being no problem at all. I

hope this

helps...

Posted October 2, 2007 · October 2, 2007

The " blue card " is the California School Immunization Record (Form #

PM286). Normally you provide the immunization record from your

doctor and the school personnel fill out this record to keep on

file. It is a standard form used by schools. On it you have 3

options for exemption, Medical-Permanant, Medical-Temporary, and

Personal beliefs. For both Medical exemptions, you need a doctors

written statement. For personal beliefs, you just check that box on

the front and sign the back. They are also now sometimes requesting

a TB assessement as well which you can take an exemption for too.

You actually don't even have to present an immunization record if you

don't want to if you are going to request the personal beliefs

exemption. However, I chose to present ours because I didn't want my

son taken out of school if another child came down with something he

had been vaccinated for. However, I know that if some kids comes

down with measles, mumps, or rubella, my son may be excluded from

school.

(Max's Mom)

>

> What is the 'blue card'? I homeschool my son, have

> never dealt with a school, so I'm not sure what this

> is. I printed out a vaccine exemption form for her, is

> that not good enough? Thanks, I was looking for

> someone here that had done this. I'll let her know!

> Our district is really horrible, I wouldn't be

> surprised if they fought her anyway, but it'll

> strengthen her resolve if she knows others out there

> have done this without problems.

>

> I live in CA and recently enrolled my son in a private

> preschool. He

> is partially vaccinated. I just signed the

> philosophical exemption

> on the blue card. I got no hassles.

>

> (Max's Mom)

>

> Angie

>

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Posted October 2, 2007 · October 2, 2007

Thanks everyone for your help!

The " blue card " is the California School Immunization

Record (Form #

PM286). Normally you provide the immunization record

from your

doctor and the school personnel fill out this record

to keep on

file. It is a standard form used by schools. On it you

have 3

options for exemption, Medical-Permanant,

Medical-Temporary, and

Personal beliefs. For both Medical exemptions, you

need a doctors

written statement. For personal beliefs, you just

check that box on

the front and sign the back. They are also now

sometimes requesting

a TB assessement as well which you can take an

exemption for too

Angie

Ask me how you can make your home a safer environment,and make money doing it!

http://saferproducts4u.makemoreathome.com/

Find out if your home has hazardous chemicals that could be affecting your

family's health.

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Posted February 14, 2010 · February 14, 2010

If they know he has been exposed to lead then the parents need to chelate.

Eating animal products won't change anything for the positive. Poor little guy.

You are here instead of his parents. What does that mean, as far as their

acceptance of treating his exposure?

Take care, good teacher!

Pam

>

> Hello everyone. I am a teacher of a 5 year old who has been exposed to lead

for several years in his home, and has recently moved. He has been diagnosed

with possible high functioning Aspbergers. Recently he has become very violent,

using violence almost as his immediate means of getting something or dealing

with another child. He utters death threats several times a day, mostly to me.

He is this way with his parents as well. This behaviour seems to be escalating,

and is triggered very easily. I know this is a mercury based group, but is

anyone else on this group having the same difficulties with lead? Also he is a

vegetarian, and I don't know if this has anything to do with his behaviour.

>

> Thank you,

>

> *****

>

Posted February 14, 2010 · February 14, 2010

>

> Hello everyone. I am a teacher of a 5 year old who has been exposed to lead

for several years in his home, and has recently moved. He has been diagnosed

with possible high functioning Aspbergers. Recently he has become very violent,

using violence almost as his immediate means of getting something or dealing

with another child.

>He utters death threats several times a day, mostly to me.

This is reminding me of some problems I witnessed when my kids were going

through school. My first thought is to consult with the local child

psychologists (and the principal) for opinions about how to approach this

behavior so that you have some support for you. Not only do you have the

child's behavior to deal with but you will also be discussing this with the

child's parents and other parents will likely be approaching you about what

their kids are telling them.

> He is this way with his parents as well. This behaviour seems to be

escalating, and is triggered very easily. I know this is a mercury based group,

but is anyone else on this group having the same difficulties with lead?

Many people, in this group and other chelation groups, chelate for lead and

mercury and other heavy metals. This group is a great place for the parents to

start to learn about how heavy metal toxicity can be diagnosed and treated.

An essential elements hair test from Doctor's Data can help to determine

toxicity. They can be obtained through www.directlabs.com It would be best to

come back to this group or Andy Cutler's " Hair Test Interpretation " book (links

section) to interpret it.

One thing that many people aren't aware of is that most practitioners don't know

how to treat heavy metal toxicity properly and can do much harm with their

treatments. The most valuable resources are Andy Cutler's two books. His

Amalgam Illness book describes how to treat metal poisoning, how to support the

person while chelating and what treatments to avoid.

> Also he is a vegetarian, and I don't know if this has anything to do with his

behaviour.

>

That is another difficult topic to approach. I am aware of vegetarians who are

chelating themselves. They must educate themselves and make a special effort to

get adequate protein. A food panel could help to identify if there are any food

allergies and removing the offending foods may be helpful.

Good luck.

J

> Thank you,

>

> *****

>

Posted February 15, 2010 · February 15, 2010

Welcome to the list. Comments interspersed.

S S (there are a number of 's on this list).

new member question

Posted by: " Ron and Cameron " kingston.montessori.school@...

lindaleecam

Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:06 am (PST)

Hello everyone. I am a teacher of a 5 year old who has been exposed to lead for

several years in his home, and has recently moved.

*Is anything being done about the lead or are they just doing periodic blood

tests watching it (move into the brain and bones)? If his doctor is doing any

chelation he or she is probably using too high a dose and too infrequent dosing,

and possibly inappropriate route (IV). Also if he has ANY mercury amalgam

dental fillings, they should stop chelation (if they're doing it) immediately

before more damage is done. There are also lots of horribly dangerous

over-the-counter products claiming to be chelators. If possible, please refer

the parents to this list.

He has been diagnosed with possible high functioning Aspbergers. Recently he has

become very violent, using violence almost as his immediate means of getting

something or dealing with another child.

*Violence/aggression is often (ineffective) communication. How functional are

his receptive and expressive communication? Does he target the noisy, rowdy

kids? I'm guessing you and his parents are non-smokers and don't where scents?

Many on the spectrum have hypersensitive hearing, olfactory, and tactile system.

I'm guessing a Montessori School doesn't have fluorescent lighting? Were there

chemicals or paint used in the school over the winter holidays? Do you or his

parents think he's upset about moving from his old house? Most on the spectrum

don't handle change well. How does he do with transitions at school: arrival,

departure, transition from one activity to another?

He utters death threats several times a day, mostly to me. He is this way with

his parents as well.

*Because you all ask him to do things he doesn't want to do or limit him doing

things he wants to do, probably. Ever hear of or try social stories with him?

Would a picture schedule help? Giving choices can be helpful.

When were his most recent vaccines (including flu) compared to his increase in

aggression? Has he had recent dental work?

This behaviour seems to be escalating, and is triggered very easily. I know

this is a mercury based group, but is anyone else on this group having the same

difficulties with lead? Also he is a vegetarian, and I don't know if this has

anything to do with his behaviour.

*If he's been vegetarian for some time, it's probably not an issue (I'm a

long-time vegan), though the family may want to consider B-12 and vitamin D if

he lives somewhere wintery. If he's recently vegetarian, he may be eating lots

more carbs than he used to (may have yeast overgrowth) and/or eating lots more

gluten-containing foods (which can be problematic for many on the spectrum).

Thank you,

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Posted February 16, 2010 · February 16, 2010

Thank you for your reply and suggestions, SS

*Is anything being done about the lead or are they just doing periodic blood

tests watching it (move into the brain and bones)? If his doctor is doing any

chelation he or she is probably using too high a dose and too infrequent dosing,

and possibly inappropriate route (IV). Also if he has ANY mercury amalgam dental

fillings, they should stop chelation (if they're doing it) immediately before

more damage is done. There are also lots of horribly dangerous over-the-counter

products claiming to be chelators. If possible, please refer the parents to this

list.

I don't know what they are doing about the lead, but I will ask this week