Nose Bleeds

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>>My sons school called Friday morning to say that he

had a nose bleed while in class.

It is now Sunday and he has had 10 nose bleeds since

Friday morning.

The weather here has been pretty humid. He hasn't been

rubbing at his nose like it itches nor has he been

coughing or sneezing. He has been doing a lot of

" swimming " in 2 foot tall, plain water blow

up pool. He usually doesn't go under the water but

splashes a lot.(I'm just trying to think of everything

that may be a cause.)

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In our case, for my son, we finally figured out the

nosebleeds are directly related to the many chemtrails

being laid overhead, many many times a day (and

night). I've taken dozens of pictures of them. These

chemtrails are creating a lot of humidity because they

" dissolve " the clouds. (we are having a drought here)

We've been " fogged " here for the last few days

(following a blitz of planes laying chemtrails

overhead) and the birds, which have been singing

outside in the morning left a few days ago. I watched

them taking flight in a zig zag pattern (one of them

spiralling down to the ground) while I could hear many

planes overhead, early in the morning. They haven't

been back...........

The days my son goes outside for any amount of time,

he is sick with abdominal pain by evening and has

nosebleeds. When he was going to school, he was

outside every day (waiting for the bus, a long bus

ride home with windows open, etc) Keeping him inside

most of the time with the windows closed has stopped

the severe nosebleeds and is helping the asthma. (it

should be the other way around!)

I'm getting sick when I have to do a lot of driving.

My car's air conditioner doesn't work and it's been

hot and humid, so I've been driving with the windows

open. I found I was getting strangely and peculiarly

sick with a lot of cramps and my muscles felt " limp " ,

but the symptoms were intermittent, dependent on where

I was. (i.e. a trip spanning several towns and cities)

Now I drive with the windows closed, which is really

uncomfortably stuffy, but it reduces the symptoms a

lot.

Chemtrail are known to contain barium, aluminum,

molds, (bacteria, chemicals, etc). Apparently barium

reduces potassium levels in humans, as well as

interferes with the calcium-magnesium intake.

Potassium is something that should never " normally "

need supplementation. Malic acid helps with aluminum

toxicity. Sisu has a malic acid/magnesium supplement.

Gogi juice is a powerful antioxidant. Ambrotose (esp.

the aloe vera and arabinogalactin - pharmaceutical

grade) is helpful for the systemic inflammation caused

by these poisons. Fulvic acid is considered a very

good detoxifier. As well, it provides electrolytes in

a natural form. Bentonite clays (ie foot soaks,

internal use) can help draw out heavy metals. (less

can be better; moving stuff too fast can make you

really sick)

BTW, hair tests don't always show what's happening at

the cellular level. For instance, if you are not

dumping the toxins they won't necessarily show up in

the hair. (we've found this true for us) In our

experience, damage to the nervous system is often

immediate even if the chemicals that cause it get

eventually filtered out.

BTW, we had been doing the DAN protocol since the

winter, and the naturopath who's been working with us

could not understand why there would be some

improvement and then things would deteriorate.

Preventative measures (if there is such a thing in

these circumstances) is helping the most now. I'm

also practicing craniosacral therapy, and that has

been so helpful to help support the

biochemical/bioelectric systems of the body.

Margaret

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Im wondering what could be causing DS nosebleeds. They started right after his

tonsil/abnoid surgery in Oct 07. His ENT has carterized his nose many times(as

recent as last WEd!!), but he still has them quite frequently. Could they be

related to the surgery, since he never had one until then? We have been trying

to figure this out for too long now...It cant be related to any med/vitamin, bec

he hasnt been on any constistently since they started in Oct 07. My poor baby!!

Just curious what you all think. Thanks!! Robin

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maybe losing his adenoids changed the balance in his immune system, or maybe the

same underlying problem is being expressed a different way now? I knwo someone

who stopped getting nose bleeds when he went off of all grains. My dh used to

get nosebleeds all the time, and hasn't since going on SCD- could be lack of

grains too, or maybe it was yeast, or who knows? Could this have to do with

vitamin K and blood thinning/clotting somehow?

-Sierra

>

> Im wondering what could be causing DS nosebleeds. They started right after his

tonsil/abnoid surgery in Oct 07. His ENT has carterized his nose many times(as

recent as last WEd!!), but he still has them quite frequently. Could they be

related to the surgery, since he never had one until then? We have been trying

to figure this out for too long now...It cant be related to any med/vitamin, bec

he hasnt been on any constistently since they started in Oct 07. My poor baby!!

Just curious what you all think. Thanks!! Robin

>

[Guest guest]

Did your child receive antibiotics? I don't know if that would be related, but

maybe someone in the group knows.

 

BTW I teach at an elementary school that has " bungalows " or " trailers " for

classrooms. One of the teachers was suffering terribly from asthma/allergies

even though he opened the windows, had air filters, etc. He also said many of

the students had nose bleeds. One of the parents brought a mold detector test

that looks like a petri dish. The teacher put it in the class for 2 days and the

mold that grew was Horrific!!! He is now working on getting the school district

to do something about it.

 

Carol

From: purpledragonmama05 <sierra.ansley@...>

Subject: Re: Nose Bleeds

Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 1:27 PM

maybe losing his adenoids changed the balance in his immune system, or maybe the

same underlying problem is being expressed a different way now? I knwo someone

who stopped getting nose bleeds when he went off of all grains. My dh used to

get nosebleeds all the time, and hasn't since going on SCD- could be lack of

grains too, or maybe it was yeast, or who knows? Could this have to do with

vitamin K and blood thinning/clotting somehow?

-Sierra

>

> Im wondering what could be causing DS nosebleeds. They started right after his

tonsil/abnoid surgery in Oct 07. His ENT has carterized his nose many times(as

recent as last WEd!!), but he still has them quite frequently. Could they be

related to the surgery, since he never had one until then? We have been trying

to figure this out for too long now...It cant be related to any med/vitamin, bec

he hasnt been on any constistently since they started in Oct 07. My poor baby!!

Just curious what you all think. Thanks!! Robin

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne,

Thanks so much for your reply, I had no idea Vit C could help the nose bleeds!!

Do you still have to take the Vit C yourself? What strength dose should I ask DR

about? My DS is 11 years old, but cant swallow pills. I have 250 mg chewable Vit

C from Kirkmans here - is that a strong enough dose? I know Vit C helps w/ stool

issues, so I dont want to go too strong of a dose to cause problems there.

Thanks again for your help!!

Robin

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Hi Dana,

Thanks for your reply! DS isnt on Zinc, but someone else also mentioned Vit K,

which Im going to look in to. Is there a kids version of Vit K? What about Vit

C?

Thanks again!!

Robin

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Hi Sierra,

Thanks for your reply! A couple responses mentioned Vit K as well, so I am

looking into that more. When DS doctor ordered bloodwork last Sept, she added a

test to see if his blood was clotting. IM going to pull those results & make

sure that was infact done. I know he used to have alot of sinus infections

before his abnoids were removed. He has only had one since(knock on wood!!!),

which is a huge improvement. But this is also where I cant help but wonder if

the nosebleeds are related to the surgery, bec he got his first one shortly

after surgery and the sinuses are part of the nose. Anyway, Im going to talk to

his DR about Vit K & Vit C.

Thanks again!!

Robin

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,

Thanks for your reply! wasnt on antibiotics after his surgery, bec he

had just finished a dose before surgery for a sinus infection. The ENT didnt

think he really needed them after the surgery too. I also agree that some of the

room at our school are the worst, and his 3rd grade room was like that!! I never

thought of the mold aspect, but will definitely look into it.

Thanks again!!

Robin

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello.

>

> I started my son on Calcium, Magnesium and nutritional yeast flakes on Monday.

(waiting on getting the rest of the supplements). He got a nose bleed that day.

Today (Tuesday) he's had three. He also had an intense flush within 10-15

minutes of taking the yeast flakes this morning. In lasted a short time less

than 30 minutes.

>

> I was wondering, is it possible the nose bleeds are related to the yeast

flakes, since they increase blood in the capillaries? I have him on 1/2 the

adult dose since he's 10. I was wondering if I should split the dose due to the

flush. I'm wasn't too concerned after what I've read about the flush not being

harmful. The nose bleeds on the other hand, I'd like to avoid. Advice?

+++Hi . Start him on a lower dose - splitting it up is a good idea - so

his flush isn't so intense.

How much blood was there from his nose? Was it gushing out or just a little, or

traces? Was he blowing his nose because it had mucus in it?

No, the Nutritional Yeast Flakes wouldn't cause a nose bleed. If it did kids

taking it would all get nose bleeds, but they don't, and neither do adults.

Bee

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Bee: How much blood was there from his nose? Was it gushing out or just a

little, or traces? Was he blowing his nose because it had mucus in it?

: Gushing out would be closer. Well more like a gentle flow, like if

your faucet was on low. Enough that I had carpet clean up multiple places

each time it happened. (Sorry so descript.)

No, he wasn't blowing his nose. I didn't see, but I wouldn't be surprised if

he was picking at it at least the first time. (Not uncommon for him, but the

nose bleed isn't common.) The last time he had sneezed.

I put a humidifier in his room last night. I'll split his NF dose.

Thanks!

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On Behalf Of Bee

Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 5:55 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: nose bleeds

>

> Hello.

>

> I started my son on Calcium, Magnesium and nutritional yeast flakes on

Monday. (waiting on getting the rest of the supplements). He got a nose

bleed that day. Today (Tuesday) he's had three. He also had an intense flush

within 10-15 minutes of taking the yeast flakes this morning. In lasted a

short time less than 30 minutes.

>

> I was wondering, is it possible the nose bleeds are related to the yeast

flakes, since they increase blood in the capillaries? I have him on 1/2 the

adult dose since he's 10. I was wondering if I should split the dose due to

the flush. I'm wasn't too concerned after what I've read about the flush not

being harmful. The nose bleeds on the other hand, I'd like to avoid. Advice?

+++Hi . Start him on a lower dose - splitting it up is a good idea -

so his flush isn't so intense.

How much blood was there from his nose? Was it gushing out or just a little,

or traces? Was he blowing his nose because it had mucus in it?

No, the Nutritional Yeast Flakes wouldn't cause a nose bleed. If it did kids

taking it would all get nose bleeds, but they don't, and neither do adults.

Bee

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Hi ,

How much cod liver oil are you giving him?

Bee

>

> Bee: How much blood was there from his nose? Was it gushing out or just a

> little, or traces? Was he blowing his nose because it had mucus in it?

> : Gushing out would be closer. Well more like a gentle flow, like if

> your faucet was on low. Enough that I had carpet clean up multiple places

> each time it happened. (Sorry so descript.)

>

> No, he wasn't blowing his nose. I didn't see, but I wouldn't be surprised if

> he was picking at it at least the first time. (Not uncommon for him, but the

> nose bleed isn't common.) The last time he had sneezed.

> >

> I put a humidifier in his room last night. I'll split his NF dose.

>

[Guest guest]

Bee: How much cod liver oil are you giving him?

: None, yet. Was planning to start that up next. Only have him on

Calcium, Magnesium, and Nutritional Yeast Flakes at half the adult dose (as

he is 10yo). Also have continued the coconut oil as was already in our diet.