Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 >>My sons school called Friday morning to say that he had a nose bleed while in class. It is now Sunday and he has had 10 nose bleeds since Friday morning. The weather here has been pretty humid. He hasn't been rubbing at his nose like it itches nor has he been coughing or sneezing. He has been doing a lot of " swimming " in 2 foot tall, plain water blow up pool. He usually doesn't go under the water but splashes a lot.(I'm just trying to think of everything that may be a cause.) --------------------- In our case, for my son, we finally figured out the nosebleeds are directly related to the many chemtrails being laid overhead, many many times a day (and night). I've taken dozens of pictures of them. These chemtrails are creating a lot of humidity because they " dissolve " the clouds. (we are having a drought here) We've been " fogged " here for the last few days (following a blitz of planes laying chemtrails overhead) and the birds, which have been singing outside in the morning left a few days ago. I watched them taking flight in a zig zag pattern (one of them spiralling down to the ground) while I could hear many planes overhead, early in the morning. They haven't been back........... The days my son goes outside for any amount of time, he is sick with abdominal pain by evening and has nosebleeds. When he was going to school, he was outside every day (waiting for the bus, a long bus ride home with windows open, etc) Keeping him inside most of the time with the windows closed has stopped the severe nosebleeds and is helping the asthma. (it should be the other way around!) I'm getting sick when I have to do a lot of driving. My car's air conditioner doesn't work and it's been hot and humid, so I've been driving with the windows open. I found I was getting strangely and peculiarly sick with a lot of cramps and my muscles felt " limp " , but the symptoms were intermittent, dependent on where I was. (i.e. a trip spanning several towns and cities) Now I drive with the windows closed, which is really uncomfortably stuffy, but it reduces the symptoms a lot. Chemtrail are known to contain barium, aluminum, molds, (bacteria, chemicals, etc). Apparently barium reduces potassium levels in humans, as well as interferes with the calcium-magnesium intake. Potassium is something that should never " normally " need supplementation. Malic acid helps with aluminum toxicity. Sisu has a malic acid/magnesium supplement. Gogi juice is a powerful antioxidant. Ambrotose (esp. the aloe vera and arabinogalactin - pharmaceutical grade) is helpful for the systemic inflammation caused by these poisons. Fulvic acid is considered a very good detoxifier. As well, it provides electrolytes in a natural form. Bentonite clays (ie foot soaks, internal use) can help draw out heavy metals. (less can be better; moving stuff too fast can make you really sick) BTW, hair tests don't always show what's happening at the cellular level. For instance, if you are not dumping the toxins they won't necessarily show up in the hair. (we've found this true for us) In our experience, damage to the nervous system is often immediate even if the chemicals that cause it get eventually filtered out. BTW, we had been doing the DAN protocol since the winter, and the naturopath who's been working with us could not understand why there would be some improvement and then things would deteriorate. Preventative measures (if there is such a thing in these circumstances) is helping the most now. I'm also practicing craniosacral therapy, and that has been so helpful to help support the biochemical/bioelectric systems of the body. Margaret Get news delivered with the All new . Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail./try_beta?.intl=ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Im wondering what could be causing DS nosebleeds. They started right after his tonsil/abnoid surgery in Oct 07. His ENT has carterized his nose many times(as recent as last WEd!!), but he still has them quite frequently. Could they be related to the surgery, since he never had one until then? We have been trying to figure this out for too long now...It cant be related to any med/vitamin, bec he hasnt been on any constistently since they started in Oct 07. My poor baby!! Just curious what you all think. Thanks!! Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 maybe losing his adenoids changed the balance in his immune system, or maybe the same underlying problem is being expressed a different way now? I knwo someone who stopped getting nose bleeds when he went off of all grains. My dh used to get nosebleeds all the time, and hasn't since going on SCD- could be lack of grains too, or maybe it was yeast, or who knows? Could this have to do with vitamin K and blood thinning/clotting somehow? -Sierra > > Im wondering what could be causing DS nosebleeds. They started right after his tonsil/abnoid surgery in Oct 07. His ENT has carterized his nose many times(as recent as last WEd!!), but he still has them quite frequently. Could they be related to the surgery, since he never had one until then? We have been trying to figure this out for too long now...It cant be related to any med/vitamin, bec he hasnt been on any constistently since they started in Oct 07. My poor baby!! Just curious what you all think. Thanks!! Robin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Did your child receive antibiotics? I don't know if that would be related, but maybe someone in the group knows. Â BTW I teach at an elementary school that has " bungalows " or " trailers " for classrooms. One of the teachers was suffering terribly from asthma/allergies even though he opened the windows, had air filters, etc. He also said many of the students had nose bleeds. One of the parents brought a mold detector test that looks like a petri dish. The teacher put it in the class for 2 days and the mold that grew was Horrific!!! He is now working on getting the school district to do something about it. Â Carol From: purpledragonmama05 <sierra.ansley@...> Subject: Re: Nose Bleeds Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 1:27 PM maybe losing his adenoids changed the balance in his immune system, or maybe the same underlying problem is being expressed a different way now? I knwo someone who stopped getting nose bleeds when he went off of all grains. My dh used to get nosebleeds all the time, and hasn't since going on SCD- could be lack of grains too, or maybe it was yeast, or who knows? Could this have to do with vitamin K and blood thinning/clotting somehow? -Sierra > > Im wondering what could be causing DS nosebleeds. They started right after his tonsil/abnoid surgery in Oct 07. His ENT has carterized his nose many times(as recent as last WEd!!), but he still has them quite frequently. Could they be related to the surgery, since he never had one until then? We have been trying to figure this out for too long now...It cant be related to any med/vitamin, bec he hasnt been on any constistently since they started in Oct 07. My poor baby!! Just curious what you all think. Thanks!! Robin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Hi Anne, Thanks so much for your reply, I had no idea Vit C could help the nose bleeds!! Do you still have to take the Vit C yourself? What strength dose should I ask DR about? My DS is 11 years old, but cant swallow pills. I have 250 mg chewable Vit C from Kirkmans here - is that a strong enough dose? I know Vit C helps w/ stool issues, so I dont want to go too strong of a dose to cause problems there. Thanks again for your help!! Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Hi Dana, Thanks for your reply! DS isnt on Zinc, but someone else also mentioned Vit K, which Im going to look in to. Is there a kids version of Vit K? What about Vit C? Thanks again!! Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Hi Sierra, Thanks for your reply! A couple responses mentioned Vit K as well, so I am looking into that more. When DS doctor ordered bloodwork last Sept, she added a test to see if his blood was clotting. IM going to pull those results & make sure that was infact done. I know he used to have alot of sinus infections before his abnoids were removed. He has only had one since(knock on wood!!!), which is a huge improvement. But this is also where I cant help but wonder if the nosebleeds are related to the surgery, bec he got his first one shortly after surgery and the sinuses are part of the nose. Anyway, Im going to talk to his DR about Vit K & Vit C. Thanks again!! Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Hi Carol, Thanks for your reply! wasnt on antibiotics after his surgery, bec he had just finished a dose before surgery for a sinus infection. The ENT didnt think he really needed them after the surgery too. I also agree that some of the room at our school are the worst, and his 3rd grade room was like that!! I never thought of the mold aspect, but will definitely look into it. Thanks again!! Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 > > Hello. > > I started my son on Calcium, Magnesium and nutritional yeast flakes on Monday. (waiting on getting the rest of the supplements). He got a nose bleed that day. Today (Tuesday) he's had three. He also had an intense flush within 10-15 minutes of taking the yeast flakes this morning. In lasted a short time less than 30 minutes. > > I was wondering, is it possible the nose bleeds are related to the yeast flakes, since they increase blood in the capillaries? I have him on 1/2 the adult dose since he's 10. I was wondering if I should split the dose due to the flush. I'm wasn't too concerned after what I've read about the flush not being harmful. The nose bleeds on the other hand, I'd like to avoid. Advice? +++Hi . Start him on a lower dose - splitting it up is a good idea - so his flush isn't so intense. How much blood was there from his nose? Was it gushing out or just a little, or traces? Was he blowing his nose because it had mucus in it? No, the Nutritional Yeast Flakes wouldn't cause a nose bleed. If it did kids taking it would all get nose bleeds, but they don't, and neither do adults. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Bee: How much blood was there from his nose? Was it gushing out or just a little, or traces? Was he blowing his nose because it had mucus in it? : Gushing out would be closer. Well more like a gentle flow, like if your faucet was on low. Enough that I had carpet clean up multiple places each time it happened. (Sorry so descript.) No, he wasn't blowing his nose. I didn't see, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was picking at it at least the first time. (Not uncommon for him, but the nose bleed isn't common.) The last time he had sneezed. I put a humidifier in his room last night. I'll split his NF dose. Thanks! From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Bee Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 5:55 AM Subject: [ ] Re: nose bleeds > > Hello. > > I started my son on Calcium, Magnesium and nutritional yeast flakes on Monday. (waiting on getting the rest of the supplements). He got a nose bleed that day. Today (Tuesday) he's had three. He also had an intense flush within 10-15 minutes of taking the yeast flakes this morning. In lasted a short time less than 30 minutes. > > I was wondering, is it possible the nose bleeds are related to the yeast flakes, since they increase blood in the capillaries? I have him on 1/2 the adult dose since he's 10. I was wondering if I should split the dose due to the flush. I'm wasn't too concerned after what I've read about the flush not being harmful. The nose bleeds on the other hand, I'd like to avoid. Advice? +++Hi . Start him on a lower dose - splitting it up is a good idea - so his flush isn't so intense. How much blood was there from his nose? Was it gushing out or just a little, or traces? Was he blowing his nose because it had mucus in it? No, the Nutritional Yeast Flakes wouldn't cause a nose bleed. If it did kids taking it would all get nose bleeds, but they don't, and neither do adults. Bee No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2713 - Release Date: 03/02/10 13:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hi , How much cod liver oil are you giving him? Bee > > Bee: How much blood was there from his nose? Was it gushing out or just a > little, or traces? Was he blowing his nose because it had mucus in it? > : Gushing out would be closer. Well more like a gentle flow, like if > your faucet was on low. Enough that I had carpet clean up multiple places > each time it happened. (Sorry so descript.) > > No, he wasn't blowing his nose. I didn't see, but I wouldn't be surprised if > he was picking at it at least the first time. (Not uncommon for him, but the > nose bleed isn't common.) The last time he had sneezed. > > > I put a humidifier in his room last night. I'll split his NF dose. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Bee: How much cod liver oil are you giving him? : None, yet. Was planning to start that up next. Only have him on Calcium, Magnesium, and Nutritional Yeast Flakes at half the adult dose (as he is 10yo). Also have continued the coconut oil as was already in our diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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