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In a message dated 14/12/2007 18:01:22 GMT Standard Time,

fairclough_kirsty@... writes:

Still need to work on:

Spacey

receptive vocabulary and understanding (PECS has helped)

non verbal

spinning

manic laughing

>>Spinning, manic laughter and spacey were all signs of gut bugs with my

son. GSE, Candex, good probiotics should help with that but may get worse

before

it gets better. Activated charcoal would be good to have on hand for nasty

die off reactions

Mandi in UK

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> In a message dated 14/12/2007 18:01:22 GMT Standard Time,

> fairclough_kirsty@... writes:

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> Still need to work on:

> Spacey

> receptive vocabulary and understanding (PECS has helped)

> non verbal

> spinning

> manic laughing

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> The above symptoms are being addressed in my house with a low-

phenol diet. As soon as I get all the blood work done I'm going to re-

introduce No-Fenol

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> Is there a limit of how many supplements we should give our children.

Sometimes.

> Can too many supplements be dangerous?

Depends on what you give. For kids whose bodies need the supps, they

are fine with quite a few.

>>Can our children become

> dependant on any supplements?

Until the levels reach normal levels, yes. ALA chelation caused my

son's body to properly absorb the supps, and eventually he no longer

needed them. He only needs a few now, I have been able to eliminate

most of them.

>>Also is there any order we should deal

> with things?

Yes

>> Right now Im considering the Mito coctail because I dont

> think he is absorbing EFAs properly. But I am also considering GSE OLE

> for his yeast.

OLE is good for viruses and bacteria. Viral die off tends to cause

yeast. So OLE is not generally good for yeast. GSE and biotin work

well for yeast.

> Also I was wondering what people think of putting a list of symptoms

> and the things that have worked for them.

I have that info on various places of my site. List your child's

symptoms and I will give you info here.

> Still need to work on:

> Spacey

Anti-virals, yeast control, mito cocktail, mB12, TMG, folic acid.

> receptive vocabulary and understanding (PECS has helped)

> non verbal

What my son needed for this is written here

http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

> spinning

> manic laughing

Yeast control.

Dana

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Thank you for all your information.

Dana- can you expand about which order things are supposed to be done

please? Should I be treating yeast first before the Mito coctail? WHen

should chelation take place. It was my understanding that we heal the

gut as much as possible and then chelate is that right in your opinion?

> >

> > Is there a limit of how many supplements we should give our children.

>

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> Sometimes.

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> > Can too many supplements be dangerous?

>

>

> Depends on what you give. For kids whose bodies need the supps, they

> are fine with quite a few.

>

>

> >>Can our children become

> > dependant on any supplements?

>

>

> Until the levels reach normal levels, yes. ALA chelation caused my

> son's body to properly absorb the supps, and eventually he no longer

> needed them. He only needs a few now, I have been able to eliminate

> most of them.

>

>

> >>Also is there any order we should deal

> > with things?

>

>

> Yes

>

>

> >> Right now Im considering the Mito coctail because I dont

> > think he is absorbing EFAs properly. But I am also considering GSE OLE

> > for his yeast.

>

>

> OLE is good for viruses and bacteria. Viral die off tends to cause

> yeast. So OLE is not generally good for yeast. GSE and biotin work

> well for yeast.

>

>

> > Also I was wondering what people think of putting a list of symptoms

> > and the things that have worked for them.

>

>

> I have that info on various places of my site. List your child's

> symptoms and I will give you info here.

>

>

> > Still need to work on:

> > Spacey

>

>

> Anti-virals, yeast control, mito cocktail, mB12, TMG, folic acid.

>

>

> > receptive vocabulary and understanding (PECS has helped)

> > non verbal

>

>

> What my son needed for this is written here

>

> http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

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> > spinning

> > manic laughing

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>

> Yeast control.

>

> Dana

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Deffinitly yes!! some supplement excrete, some dont! For instants Vit

A, D, stay in the body, C's excrete, etc. etc. Just really research

to death each supplement. Even with C (excretes) we found through

researching that in huge doses daily for long periods, vit. C can

cause kidney stones(this would be with abusing the supplement

though).We do little as possible with my son's supplements and

seperate/alternate/usually dont use any/all at the same time

depending on which ones. Just be sure and research the safety of each

one. Also remember too, that there well always be negative on the net

with the good supplements. Jennie<><

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> Is there a limit of how many supplements we should give our

children.

> Can too many supplements be dangerous? Can our children become

> dependant on any supplements? My Ds is already taking quite a few

and

> Im worried about adding more. Also is there any order we should deal

> with things? Right now Im considering the Mito coctail because I

dont

> think he is absorbing EFAs properly. But I am also considering GSE

OLE

> for his yeast.

>

> Also I was wondering what people think of putting a list of symptoms

> and the things that have worked for them.

>

> My Ds 2.7 ASD:

>

> We have had success with:

>

> Constant cough/cold/sticky eye (tranfer factor, Zinc, Vitamin C)

> sideways glancing out of his eye (nordic cod liver oil)

> runny stools to diaeroeah (Intenzyme forte enzymes)

> tantrums (GFCFSF and peptizyde)

> Excessive sweating (CF)

> Red ear and cheek (CF)

>

> Still need to work on:

> Spacey

> receptive vocabulary and understanding (PECS has helped)

> non verbal

> spinning

> manic laughing

>

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> Dana- can you expand about which order things are supposed to be done

> please? Should I be treating yeast first before the Mito coctail? WHen

> should chelation take place. It was my understanding that we heal the

> gut as much as possible and then chelate is that right in your opinion?

I can give you info based on what order I had to do things for my son.

I would start with enzymes and biotin.

Yeast [biotin, plus anything else you need to give like GSE] should be

under control before starting most protocols, because most of them

will tend to increase yeast.

I would wait only as long as it takes for the gut to be " reasonably

under control " before starting chelation. I used oral ALA. My son's

gut did not heal until the end of chelation, plus several supplements.

Dana

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