Re: Help with OCD ( LONG)

[Guest guest]

Yeast? Increasing vitamin C causes increased yeast issues here. We always have

to up our yeast maintenance protocol when we dose high C.

My daughter is diagosed w/tourette's and ocd (I say Pandas) and yeast really

kicks those symptoms into overdrive.

I don't know what you've been diagnosed with, but it sure does look like a list

of symptoms from someone who's heavy metal toxic.

You might want to consider reading Andy Cutler's book Amalgam Illness, which

covers this subject very well, complete with advice for improving day-to-day

function and (ultimately) getting the metal out and recovering.

Well worth reading, regardless of your medical history.

hth - Darla

[sPAM] Help with OCD ( LONG)

I have been taking vitamin c and msm to help with allergies and I

have noticed an increase in sound sensitivity, brain fog and severe

OCD. If my schedule goes even slightly in one direction or the other,

I feel like I am going to have a nervous breakdown. I react this way

when I have too many B vitamins as well. I feel as if I am losing my

mind. I almost feel as if I am losing touch with reality and I need

to be slapped out of it.

I stopped taking my lysine and started to take the vitamin c

instead. I had been doing well until I had another flare with

Epstein-Barr virus. My titers were through the roof. Could the

lysine have been keeping the virus at bay and then when I switched

to the vitamin c it wasn't enough to quiet the EBV. Or is the

vitamin c even stronger than the lysine and I am just struggling with

massive yeast and viral die off? Here are my many symptoms (I am

listing everything,even if it may be irrelevent) and I would be so

grateful if someone would diagnose this for me:

1. Easily frustrated and Impatient

2. Crying easily

3. No Stamina (want to give up)

4. Not thinking clearly

5. Not focused, but yet hyper-focused (I don't know how else to

explain that one)

6. Not flexible at all and I can't deal with simple things

7. I feel like everything is " the end of the world "

8. My brain can't handle any more input or any changes

9. Tired, but I feel keyed up

10. Headaches

11. Low blood sugar symptoms

12. Frequent urination

13. Things have to be Just Right. Not too cold, not too hot; not too

loud, not too quiet,etc.

14. WORRIED about everything

15. Eyes feel dry and burning

16. Very anxious

17. Stomach feels bloated and fat

18. Constipated

19. Legs feel twitchy and restless

20. NOT Happy, relaxed or calm

21. I don't want to be in my skin anymore.

22. Dehydrated feeling(skin doesn't look healthy)

23. Veins are bulging and I feel as if my blood pressure is high. I

feel an inner pressure all over my body. Like a full feeling

everywhere.

I know this is a ton of stuff to throw out there and I also know that

some of it is just how I am. But it has been magnified since taking

the vitamin c and msm.

What kills EBV? I want to get rid of it for good.

I feel as if this is aging me. My skin looks thin,old,wrinkled and

dry. I feel exhausted and worn out. I have a friend who takes

massive doses of vitamin c and she swears it keeps her skin so young

and healthy. What gives? Do I need more water to flush this stuff

out? I also thought msm was supposed to help the skin as well as a

host of other things.

Thank you for listening and I apologize for the length,

a

[Guest guest]

> I don't know what you've been diagnosed with, but it sure does look

like a list of symptoms from someone who's heavy metal toxic.

**What should I use to chelate the metals? I tried 100 mg. of ALA per

day and my iron levels were very low and I started to lose hair. I

thought maybe the ALA chelated the iron too.

Doesn't MSM help with metals? I want to chelate the metals, but I'd

like to hold on to my iron and other metals that I need.

I have always thought that I had issues with metals and I also get

weirded out with minerals as well.

> You might want to consider reading Andy Cutler's book Amalgam

Illness, which covers this subject very well, complete with advice for

improving day-to-day function and (ultimately) getting the metal out

and recovering.

** I will definitely look for that book.

Thank you,

paula

[Guest guest]

--- In @y

Hi a,

I too suffer from OCD. Gets much worse when I seem to have yeast

issues. Take a look at some of the supplements listed on websites for

OCD. Some of them might help. Also look at the things they say don't

help like b12 and folic acid.

Also, have you had your thyroid checked? Alot of the symptoms you

listed sound like some of the problems I have when my thyroid is

messed up. I have Hashimoto's thyroiditis which is diagnosed by the

fact that my thyroid antibodies are very high. I have also been iodine

deficient in the past. My TPO is very high too which means i can't

convert t3 to t4 (I think that's right or maybe the other way around)

anyway it causes me to have to much thyroid hormone and then I go

hyperthyroid- then the anxiety attacks start, the Central nervous

system problems start, I get so keyed up I want to tear off my own

skin, I have a tingling through my whole body, I think it messes with

my adrenals, it causes blood sugar swings, my throat feels thick, I

cry, I am currently being treated as an outpatient for depression &

anxiety and OCD- they are working with me on trying to figure out my

thyroid problems (we are waiting on the blood test results) because if

my thyroid is still messed up then any medicine except for anxiety

meds may not really do the job for the OCD. I know exactly how you

feel I believe. I am starting to recover and feel really good. I am

taking for supplements: selenium, magnesium glycinate (doesn't seem to

cause the diarrhea that mag citrate does), enada, zinc, probiotics

(when I seem to be able to tolerate them) chromium GTF, houston AFP,

another enzyme called paraplex by integrative therapeutics, Lypo gold

(by enzymedica) for fat digestion (I just had my gallbladder out so

still need lots of help with fats) I have celiac so I am GF/CF/SF- soy

free because of thyroid issues. I get alot of headaches because I have

sinus problems all the time- lately Houston AFP seems to help with the

headaches for some reason. I am working alot on cognitive behavioral

therapy for the OCD. I also go to meditation class once a week which

definitely calms me down. Learning proper breathing for relaxation

has been key lately. I guess as far as supplements go selenium has

been the best help so far- I know that because that was the first one

I added and I could feel the effects of when I didn't take it. I think

that it is supposed to help with T3-T4 conversion and also helps to

remove or bind to mercury in some way. Someone correct me if I am

wrong on any of the stuff I have mentioned- I want to be corrected. I

just read an article on Autism that talked alot about selenium. Well,

anyway, sorry so long. It's just that your symptoms are exactly like

where I was a few weeks ago and I feel for you.

Wanda

[Guest guest]

>

>

> > I don't know what you've been diagnosed with, but it sure does look

> like a list of symptoms from someone who's heavy metal toxic.

>

> **What should I use to chelate the metals? I tried 100 mg. of ALA per

> day and my iron levels were very low and I started to lose hair. I

> thought maybe the ALA chelated the iron too.

>

> Doesn't MSM help with metals? I want to chelate the metals, but I'd

> like to hold on to my iron and other metals that I need.

> I have always thought that I had issues with metals and I also get

> weirded out with minerals as well.

>

> > You might want to consider reading Andy Cutler's book Amalgam

> Illness, which covers this subject very well, complete with advice for

> improving day-to-day function and (ultimately) getting the metal out

> and recovering.

>

> ** I will definitely look for that book.

>

> Thank you,

> paula

>

Hi a,

MSM- doesn't that contain a lot of sulphur? I thought sulphur could

cause yeast to go up. B vitamins cause a lot of havoc around here too

when it comes to yeast. I forgot to mention I also take biotin. I

think it helps with yeast and sugar issues too. Biotin also helps with

hair and skin too I believe. You probably should increase your water

intake if you are trying to detox and also vitamin C can also cause

some issues with the kidneys due to oxalates I think. Usually a lot

of urinating seems to happen with yeast issues. I know I have metals

issues too because I showed high for a couple things on a test I had

done. I thought too that when you are doing a lot with anti virals you

can cause yeast issues? Just like when you kill a lot of yeast and

don't supply good bacteria then you can get a bacteria over growth.

Wanda

[Guest guest]

> >

> Hi a,

> MSM- doesn't that contain a lot of sulphur? I thought sulphur could

> cause yeast to go up. B vitamins cause a lot of havoc around here

too

> when it comes to yeast. I forgot to mention I also take biotin. I

> think it helps with yeast and sugar issues too. Biotin also helps

with

> hair and skin too I believe. You probably should increase your water

> intake if you are trying to detox and also vitamin C can also cause

> some issues with the kidneys due to oxalates I think. Usually a lot

> of urinating seems to happen with yeast issues. I know I have metals

> issues too because I showed high for a couple things on a test I had

> done. I thought too that when you are doing a lot with anti virals

you

> can cause yeast issues? Just like when you kill a lot of yeast and

> don't supply good bacteria then you can get a bacteria over growth.

> Wanda

>

Wanda,

Thank you so much for the information. I took some GSE last night

and I felt better within 2 hours. Could it work that fast? I will

add some probiotic in as long as I am taking the GSE. I just need

help in arranging the supplements I am going to take. I am in a

severe brain fog right now and it's hard to keep my thoughts straight.

I can tolerate GSE for yeast as well as Candidase. My tinnitis gets

really bad, but that's better than feeling insane. I am so afraid to

try biotin because it's a B vitamin and I really feel " at the end of

my rope " when I take the B's. Is it safe to take a B vitamin by

itself and not with the others?

I can tolerate l-lysine, but OLE made things worse think. I wasn't

sure how long I could take l-lysine, so I stopped it. Is it safe to

take evryday for a long time? I take colostrum and yesterday i

doubled it and had panic attacks all day. The vitamin c was working

fine and then I added the msm and I guess I increased the yeast. It

all makes sense now because I am constipated and I feel fat and

bloated. Yeast tends to do that right?

I have virastop,candidase, vitamin c, msm, l-lysine, OLE,

GSE,probiotics,coQ10,fishoil,iron,magnesium. In what order do I take

all of this? Should I add anything else? i also don't know how long

to take all of the Anti-yeast, anti-viral, and probitics. When do I

know it's been enough. What signs do I watch for?

I forgot to mention that I have been getting a red itchy rash

whenever my husband touches me or kisses me. i also get hives from

bandaids and hospital tape. I had a CT scan with iodine contrast and

broke out in hives all over. My skin has never been this sensitive

before. I heard that the msm will help with this problem. Is there

anything else that helps with allergic reactions, especially in the

skin? I have tried to take a flax oil combination and I felt really

weird after that;like I was out of control. My skin looks dehydrated.

I am extremely sensitive to so many things and I am afraid to try

things because I can't afford another bad day. Bad days for people

like this are more than just your average bad day. I hate feeling

this way, but I don't want to get any worse.

I know I am laying alot on the table, but this is the only website

and group that actually has information that I can relate to. I have

struggled my entire life with sensory issues and feeling out of

control. The world seems so loud and frightening and i need to get

away but it doesn't even matter because I can't run away from myself.

I was doing really well last year on this protocol:

Colostrum

L-lysine

Green tea

Oil of Oregano

Saw palmetto(for my hair)

Shen Min(for my hair)

Burdock

Iron(low ferritin issues)

Glutamine

Silica(for my hair)

Udo's oil(even though it made me very edgy)

Pycnogenol(this made me edgy as well,but my skin looked better)

Then I had the iodine contrast and everything went crazy. i was

reacting to anything I took after that. My veins feel like they are

inflamed and burning in my legs and in my arms. I just want to flush

them out with water. They are permanately dilated in my arms and

hands, kind of like a body builder but I don't work out. What causes

that constant pressure?

I stopped a lot of my supplements and decided to regroup and organize

a different attack. That's where I am now, and my organizational

skills are lacking.

Please help me get it together. I really appreciate every post on

this website. There is a wealth of information and I can get

overwhelmed at times. This is one of those times.

Thank you for listening,

paula

[Guest guest]

>

> I have been taking vitamin c and msm to help with allergies and I

> have noticed an increase in sound sensitivity, brain fog and severe

> OCD.

Yeast overgrowth. Vitamin C helps pull viruses out of the body, and

viral die off causes yeast overgrowth, and yeast overgrowth causes

most of the issues you describe.

>> If my schedule goes even slightly in one direction or the other,

> I feel like I am going to have a nervous breakdown. I react this way

> when I have too many B vitamins as well.

B vitamins tend to increase yeast also.

> I stopped taking my lysine and started to take the vitamin c

> instead. I had been doing well until I had another flare with

> Epstein-Barr virus.

Lysine eliminates herpes virus, including Epstein Barr. Vitamin C

eliminates cold/flu viruses. My son needed both.

>>My titers were through the roof. Could the

> lysine have been keeping the virus at bay and then when I switched

> to the vitamin c it wasn't enough to quiet the EBV. Or is the

> vitamin c even stronger than the lysine and I am just struggling with

> massive yeast and viral die off?

The viruses that lysine eliminates, are not the same viruses that

vitamin C eliminates.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> **What should I use to chelate the metals? I tried 100 mg. of ALA per

> day and my iron levels were very low and I started to lose hair. I

> thought maybe the ALA chelated the iron too.

All four of my kids, and also me personally, are fully chelated with

ALA. I only recently was able to take 100mg, I started with half of a

25mg capsule. And yes, it does tend to demineralize. I take a multi

mineral supplement, as well as individual supps of certain minerals to

get more than is contained in the multi.

Losing hair, at my house, meant biotin deficiency.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Thank you so much for the information. I took some GSE last night

> and I felt better within 2 hours. Could it work that fast?

GSE worked very fast at my house.

>> I will

> add some probiotic in as long as I am taking the GSE.

Take the probiotic every day, and at least 2 hours apart from the GSE.

We used biotin at my house for yeast control, plus GSE when required.

> I can tolerate GSE for yeast as well as Candidase. My tinnitis gets

> really bad, but that's better than feeling insane. I am so afraid to

> try biotin because it's a B vitamin and I really feel " at the end of

> my rope " when I take the B's. Is it safe to take a B vitamin by

> itself and not with the others?

Biotin is a different sort of B vitamin. It controls yeast, rather

than the other Bs which tend to increase yeast. So you might want to

start with a low dose, like 400mcg. It does require magnesium for

proper absorption, so try 400mcg with 200mg of magnesium, see if that

helps.

> I can tolerate l-lysine, but OLE made things worse think. I wasn't

> sure how long I could take l-lysine, so I stopped it. Is it safe to

> take evryday for a long time?

I gave my kids OLE for 2 years, and lysine for 8 months. Take them at

least 2 hours apart, because lysine will inactivate OLE.

>>It

> all makes sense now because I am constipated and I feel fat and

> bloated. Yeast tends to do that right?

Yes. More yeast info and ideas here

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

> I have virastop,candidase, vitamin c, msm, l-lysine, OLE,

> GSE,probiotics,coQ10,fishoil,iron,magnesium. In what order do I take

> all of this? Should I add anything else?

The Virastop, vitamin C, lysine, and OLE are all anti-virals and will

tend to increase yeast. They were a part of my son's recovery from

autism tho, so a good thing to use.

Candidase, probiotics, biotin, and GSE help control yeast.

We never used MSM, so I can't comment on that.

CoQ10 was part of mito cocktail, which was required at my house for my

kids to properly absorb fats. I wrote about that here

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

My kids were iron toxic, so I have never supplemented with that.

i also don't know how long

> to take all of the Anti-yeast, anti-viral, and probitics. When do I

> know it's been enough. What signs do I watch for?

My kids needed OLE and Virastop for 2 years, then high doses of

vitamin C for over a year, then lysine for 8 months. You can give

them on the same days so avoid having to go on so long, like I did.

At my house, vitamin C required carnitine for proper absorption.

I knew it was time to remove these items when they started causing

problems that were not addressed by yeast control.

>>I heard that the msm will help with this problem. Is there

> anything else that helps with allergic reactions, especially in the

> skin?

Selenium was helpful for certain food issues here. OLE helped with

environmental allergies. And ALA chelation was very good for almost

all of this.

>>My skin looks dehydrated.

Folic acid helped with dry skin here.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I apologize for more questions, but here goes:

What supplements do I take on an empty stomach?

Where do I find Biotin in such a low dose?

Why do my veins and skin feel like they are full of pressure and is

there anything to help relieve the pressure? My veins look scary and

I feel as if I am inflamed vascularly. my head feels full as well.

My gums are receeding and I was wondering if it is because of

anything I am taking? My dentist has no suggestions. My teeth feel

thinner if that makes sense. Like I am losing bone and enamel.

Can hair fall or super thin hair be caused by taking so many anti-

virals with no yeast protocol?

I am only taking 2 drops of GSE; is that okay? Should I increase?

Will the high phenols cause tinnitis to worsen?

Isn't folic acid a B vitamin as well?(can you tell I am scared to

death of B vitamins?)

Do I need a multi to cover anything I may be lacking?

What multivitamin is the best for someone who is as sensitive as I am?

This may sound silly but my body feels flabby and lacks muscle tone.

Is there anything to do for that?

Will l-lysine kill Epstein Barr or is OLE better?

I am sure I will have other questions because I am still learning. I

will try to get a protocol together and then maybe I will run it by

all of you and then I can start implementing it. I thank you all for

helping me. I am a 38 year old mother of five children. I am going

back to college in the fall and I also work outside the home. I have

no one near me who understands any of this. It is hard to talk to

anyone about the way this all feels. The sound sensitivity and not

wanting to be touched is very hard for people to grasp, especially

when you are an adult woman who is married with 5 kids. I really try

to pretend to have it all together. my husband is just starting to

understand after 20 years of marriage. He is my biggest support, but

even he can't fully understand what it feels like when the world is

just too loud and overwhelming. i thank you all again for being here

for me.

a

[Guest guest]

> What supplements do I take on an empty stomach?

There are several. Which supps are you taking now?

> Where do I find Biotin in such a low dose?

I bought my biotin at my local health food store.

> Why do my veins and skin feel like they are full of pressure and is

> there anything to help relieve the pressure? My veins look scary and

> I feel as if I am inflamed vascularly. my head feels full as well.

You can try Quercetin, which is a natural antihistamine, that might

help. I have not had personal experience with this tho, so I can't be

much more help than this.

> My gums are receeding and I was wondering if it is because of

> anything I am taking? My dentist has no suggestions. My teeth feel

> thinner if that makes sense. Like I am losing bone and enamel.

At my house, calcium required magnesium, vitamin K, vitamin D, and

lysine for proper absorption. Maybe you are not properly absorbing

calcium?

> Can hair fall or super thin hair be caused by taking so many anti-

> virals with no yeast protocol?

Yes, if the body is using up all its biotin to control yeast, which

would deplete the biotin. Biotin deficiency causes hair to fall out,

among other problems.

> I am only taking 2 drops of GSE; is that okay? Should I increase?

You can try that if you want. My son needed much more than 2 drops of

GSE during his anti-viral protocol.

> Will the high phenols cause tinnitis to worsen?

At my house, tinnitis was caused by yeast overgrowth.

> Isn't folic acid a B vitamin as well?(can you tell I am scared to

> death of B vitamins?)

Yes, folic is a B vitamin, and it did tend to cause yeast overgrowth

here. However, my kids were seriously deficient in folic, and I had

to give them massive doses over several months to correct the

deficiency. It did require carnitine for proper absorption.

> Do I need a multi to cover anything I may be lacking?

Probably. Or individuals.

> What multivitamin is the best for someone who is as sensitive as I am?

My son never really tolerated a multi, so I bought his supplements as

individuals.

> This may sound silly but my body feels flabby and lacks muscle tone.

> Is there anything to do for that?

Carnitine and a multi amino.

> Will l-lysine kill Epstein Barr or is OLE better?

I don't know for sure. OLE eliminated certain viruses, and strep

bacteria. However, after 2 years of OLE, there were no more

OLE-susceptible viruses or bacteria remaining, but when I removed OLE

and added lysine, herpes-related viruses came out. Epstein Barr is a

variation of the herpes virus family.

>>The sound sensitivity and not

> wanting to be touched is very hard for people to grasp, especially

> when you are an adult woman who is married with 5 kids.

Try increasing the yeast protocol.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> There are several. Which supps are you taking now?

*I am taking The following:

GSE

Colostrum

Vitamin c with bioflavonoids

l-lysine

msm

biosil (for hair and teeth)

iron

coq10

chondroitin sulfate(for joints)

shen min(for hair)

Varicose vein formula (with grape seed extract,hesperidin, vitamin c,

and Diosmin)

l-glutamine

*I want to add:

Candidase

Virastop

Biotin (I Just bought 500 mcg.)

Magnesium ( I only have 300 mg.)

An essential fatty acid (Udo's oil really freaks me out)

*Possible additions:(need help on working it all in)

Carnitine

Amino Acid complex (which brand is good when one is sensitive?)

Folic acid (can this be taken alone without a B-complex?)

Quercitin

Bromelain (maybe)

> You can try Quercetin, which is a natural antihistamine, that might

> help. I have not had personal experience with this tho, so I can't

be

> much more help than this.

*I can try quercetin. I read somewhere that it helps with blood

pressure too.

> At my house, calcium required magnesium, vitamin K, vitamin D, and

> lysine for proper absorption. Maybe you are not properly absorbing

> calcium?

*I am going to start taking magnesium when I start the biotin. Maybe

that will help with the calcium absorption. I do not consume dairy

products because the mucus it creates is overwhelming and I always

get a sinus headache and acne. Where else can I get calcium?

> You can try that if you want. My son needed much more than 2 drops

of

> GSE during his anti-viral protocol.

*I will increase in gradually, two drops at a time. How long do I

use the GSE and how many drops do I set as a limit? Do I take it as

long as i am taking the L-Lysine and vitamin c?

> At my house, tinnitis was caused by yeast overgrowth.

*I think it's safe to say I have a yeast problem! Does having extreme

brain fog go along with yeast overgrowth? I had the hardest time

thinking today at work. I couldn't even add up a simple column of

numbers today and later on when I was in mid sentence, I forgot what

I was saying. My boss looked at me like I was a complete idiot! Will

yeast overgrowth cause hypoglycemia symptoms? Does it cause floaters

in the eyes?

> Yes, folic is a B vitamin, and it did tend to cause yeast overgrowth

> here. However, my kids were seriously deficient in folic, and I had

> to give them massive doses over several months to correct the

> deficiency. It did require carnitine for proper absorption.

*Can I start this stuff after I address the yeast and viral

situation, or should I start it now?

> I don't know for sure. OLE eliminated certain viruses, and strep

> bacteria. However, after 2 years of OLE, there were no more

> OLE-susceptible viruses or bacteria remaining, but when I removed

OLE

> and added lysine, herpes-related viruses came out. Epstein Barr is

a

> variation of the herpes virus family.

*Should I just concentrate on the epstein barr virus since I know for

sure that I have that, or should I attack everything at once.

> Try increasing the yeast protocol.

*I am going to increase the GSE and I will start Biotin and Magnesium.

When should I take the biotin? am or pm? Do I take it together with

the magnesium at the same time? Can I combine it with the GSE? Do I

wait a certain amount of time until after the Lysine and vitamin c to

take the yeast supplements? I usually take the l-lysine at night; is

that okay? Should I take a probiotic at night and add the l-lysine

in the am. Sometimes the probiotics will bloat my stomach and I'd

rather sleep that off. Do I take l-lysine on an empty stomach?

I just need help fitting it all in and knowing how to increase it all

slowly. I really don't know how to work this all out without help,

and I appreciate the all of the effort.

Thank you,

a

[Guest guest]

Does clenching the teeth at night indicate yeast?

I also feel as if my body is feverish. My skin is warm and I feel like

my core temperature is hot. I do not have chills so it's not like a

normal fever, but I feel very warm inside. My skin feels like it has a

sunburn, but there is no redness.

I was wondering if GSE makes you feel super stimulated?

Will the yeast treatment help me to think clearly again? I was

standing at my closet and trying to decide what to wear for a really

long time yesterday and I ended up getting so frustrated because I

honestly couldn't think straight. I hope that indicates yeast, because

I am too young for alzheimer's.

a

[Guest guest]

>

> Does clenching the teeth at night indicate yeast?

>

> I also feel as if my body is feverish. My skin is warm and I feel like

> my core temperature is hot. I do not have chills so it's not like a

> normal fever, but I feel very warm inside. My skin feels like it has a

> sunburn, but there is no redness.

>

> I was wondering if GSE makes you feel super stimulated?

>

> Will the yeast treatment help me to think clearly again? I was

> standing at my closet and trying to decide what to wear for a really

> long time yesterday and I ended up getting so frustrated because I

> honestly couldn't think straight. I hope that indicates yeast, because

> I am too young for alzheimer's.

>

> a

>

Hi a,

are you using anything to soak up die off toxins? Like activated

charcoal or bentonite powder? Or doing epsom salts baths? It sounds

like these are die off symptoms that you are describing. There are

some really good books out there that can help to give you ideas about

dealing with die off. The sunburn type feeling, rashes, chills,

feverish all sound like die off. The Complete Candida Yeast Guidebook

by Jeanne Marie has lots of info on dealing with each symptom.

There is info on this site and a few others also like enzymestuff.com.

It is possible that you need magnesium it usually helps to calm nerves

down especially if you are high in calcium for any reason or not

absorbing it. There is a product called Natural Calm. The magnesium

will also help to keep you from getting constipated and help get the

toxins moving out. Wanda

Wanda

[Guest guest]

> Hi a,

> are you using anything to soak up die off toxins? Like activated

> charcoal or bentonite powder? Or doing epsom salts baths? It sounds

> like these are die off symptoms that you are describing. There are

> some really good books out there that can help to give you ideas

about

> dealing with die off. The sunburn type feeling, rashes, chills,

> feverish all sound like die off. The Complete Candida Yeast

Guidebook

> by Jeanne Marie has lots of info on dealing with each

symptom.

> There is info on this site and a few others also like

enzymestuff.com.

> It is possible that you need magnesium it usually helps to calm

nerves

> down especially if you are high in calcium for any reason or not

> absorbing it. There is a product called Natural Calm. The magnesium

> will also help to keep you from getting constipated and help get the

> toxins moving out. Wanda

> Wanda

Hi Wanda,

Thank you so much! I thought I was going crazy because I felt like I

was burning up, but I had no fever. I am so glad it is just die

off. I have been getting skin rashes for a while now and the sunburn

feeling with chills comes and goes. I will look into getting the

book today.

I just wanted to say that I totally love this group. Without all of

your advice, I probably would have given up already. I wish you knew

how much I value your support. It's not easy being this way and

going through so many things that others just can't understand. Now

that I can talk to everyone on this website; things seem so much

better and not as scary.

Thanks,

a

[Guest guest]

> *I am taking The following:

> GSE

> Colostrum

> Vitamin c with bioflavonoids

> l-lysine

> msm

> biosil (for hair and teeth)

> iron

> coq10

> chondroitin sulfate(for joints)

> shen min(for hair)

> Varicose vein formula (with grape seed extract,hesperidin, vitamin c,

> and Diosmin)

> l-glutamine

I have not used all of these supps, but I don't know of any of them

that must be taken on an empty stomach.

Be sure to take the GSE at least 2 hours apart from the colostrum.

Take the iron with vitamin C. The CoQ10 with something containing fat.

> *I want to add:

> Candidase

> Virastop

> Biotin (I Just bought 500 mcg.)

> Magnesium ( I only have 300 mg.)

> An essential fatty acid (Udo's oil really freaks me out)

Candidase and Virastop must be taken on an empty stomach.

> *Possible additions:(need help on working it all in)

> Carnitine

> Amino Acid complex (which brand is good when one is sensitive?)

> Folic acid (can this be taken alone without a B-complex?)

> Quercitin

> Bromelain (maybe)

I had to give carnitine with fats, B vitamins, vitamin C, and TMG.

Those supps required carnitine for proper absorption.

I used whey protein powder as a multi amino.

Folic required carnitine for proper absorption here.

>>Where else can I get calcium?

I just googled * calcium food * [without *]and several links came up

that looked good.

> *I will increase in gradually, two drops at a time. How long do I

> use the GSE and how many drops do I set as a limit? Do I take it as

> long as i am taking the L-Lysine and vitamin c?

There came a time when I was able to stop the GSE. It caused headache

here when it was too much, and when I needed to remove it. It will

tend to cause a bad bacteria problem once the yeast is gone.

> > At my house, tinnitis was caused by yeast overgrowth.

> *I think it's safe to say I have a yeast problem! Does having extreme

> brain fog go along with yeast overgrowth?

Yes

>>Will

> yeast overgrowth cause hypoglycemia symptoms?

It can, yes. Try taking some chromium, that helps with blood sugar

levels also.

>>Does it cause floaters

> in the eyes?

Several things can contribute to floaters, including yeast.

> *Can I start this stuff after I address the yeast and viral

> situation, or should I start it now?

Address the yeast first. For my son, almost everything that helped

him, did tend to increase yeast at first.

> *Should I just concentrate on the epstein barr virus since I know for

> sure that I have that, or should I attack everything at once.

I would start with the one you know. Lysine caused massive yeast

overgrowth here, because my son had major issues with herpes viruses.

You can take a lower dose of vitamin C if you want, but personally I

would wait on other anti-virals until I knew what was required to keep

yeast under control.

> *I am going to increase the GSE and I will start Biotin and Magnesium.

> When should I take the biotin? am or pm?

Best to take it 2-3x per day.

>>Do I take it together with

> the magnesium at the same time?

Yes

>>Can I combine it with the GSE?

Yes

>> Do I

> wait a certain amount of time until after the Lysine and vitamin c to

> take the yeast supplements?

I gave them at the same time.

>>I usually take the l-lysine at night; is

> that okay?

So long as it does not keep you awake.

>>Should I take a probiotic at night and add the l-lysine

> in the am.

Either.

>>Sometimes the probiotics will bloat my stomach and I'd

> rather sleep that off.

Or try a different probiotic.

>>Do I take l-lysine on an empty stomach?

It did not matter at my house.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> Does clenching the teeth at night indicate yeast?

It can. It can also mean mineral deficiency.

> I was wondering if GSE makes you feel super stimulated?

It is high phenol, so yes that is possible.

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

> Will the yeast treatment help me to think clearly again?

Yes, if your brain fog was caused by yeast overgrowth.

I was

> standing at my closet and trying to decide what to wear for a really

> long time yesterday and I ended up getting so frustrated because I

> honestly couldn't think straight. I hope that indicates yeast, because

> I am too young for alzheimer's.

There is evidence that alzheimer's is caused by metal toxicity, just

like these other issues.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Wow Dana! You should be a Doctor. I am going to print all of this

information and look at it when I have a chance today. Thank you so

much for taking the time to answer my plea for help. I am forever in

your debt.

I hope you don't mind if I continue to ask questions. I know I am

going to need help with this for a while.

Thank you so much,

a

[Guest guest]

Dana,

Which of these supplements tend to be stimulating, or best taken in

the a.m.? Which of the following supplements are best in the p.m.?

I have been having a hard time sleeping at night since I added a few

new things.

GSE

Colostrum

Vitamin c with bioflavonoids

l-lysine

msm

iron

coq10

grape seed extract

l-glutamine

Candidase

Virastop

Biotin

An essential fatty acid

Carnitine

Amino Acid complex

Folic acid

Quercitin

Probiotic

I also can't figure out which supplements can be taken together. I

do know that I need to keep the probiotic seperate from the anti-

virals. Is that the same for the GSE and biotin? Can I take the

probiotic at night with the Candidase and Virastop?

I am still confused on all of the particulars, but I think I am

starting to get a grasp on the whole anti-viral = yeast, anti-fungal

= bacteria, and anti-bacterial = depletion of good bacteria. I think

that's right.

I just need to recognize the symptoms that go along with each one. I

also need to put together a schedule of when I should take each

supplement and figure out which supplements complement or contradict

each other. My head is spinning!

Thanks again,

paula

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> Which of these supplements tend to be stimulating, or best taken in

> the a.m.? Which of the following supplements are best in the p.m.?

> I have been having a hard time sleeping at night since I added a few

> new things.

Here is info about the " average person " , which might be exactly the

opposite for some people.

> GSE

High phenol, so best in am, not past 3-4pm.

> Colostrum

> Vitamin c with bioflavonoids

> l-lysine

Vitamin C and lysine can increase yeast, which can cause sleep

problems. Best to give them earlier in the day so you can give them

with something for yeast overgrowth.

> msm

> iron

Iron caused sleep issues here, but then most of my family was iron toxic.

> coq10

> grape seed extract

Grapes are high phenol.

> l-glutamine

> Candidase

> Virastop

Virastop can cause sleep issues because it does tend to increase yeast.

> Biotin

> An essential fatty acid

EFAs caused sleep issues here until given with mito cocktail and magnesium

http://www.danasview.net/mar05.htm

> Carnitine

> Amino Acid complex

> Folic acid

Folic and other Bs can cause sleep issues, both for yeast overgrowth

issues and for the fact they are B vitamins.

> Quercitin

> Probiotic

Depending on the probiotic, it may or may not cause sleep issues.

> I also can't figure out which supplements can be taken together. I

> do know that I need to keep the probiotic seperate from the anti-

> virals.

No, keep the probiotic separate from the anti-bacterials, which from

your list above are GSE and Virastop.

>>Is that the same for the GSE and biotin? Can I take the

> probiotic at night with the Candidase and Virastop?

You can take biotin with probiotics. I would not take the probiotic

with the Virastop.

> I just need to recognize the symptoms that go along with each one.

Yes

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana,

You said:

>Depending on the probiotic, it may or may not cause sleep issues.

What do you mean by that?

> You can take biotin with probiotics. I would not take the probiotic

> with the Virastop.

Can I take the probiotic with the Candidase?

Thanks,

paula

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> You said:

> >Depending on the probiotic, it may or may not cause sleep issues.

> What do you mean by that?

Some probiotics contain milk, which causes problems for some people.

Some probiotics contain strep strains, which also causes problems for

some people. Some people [like my son] do not do well with probiotics

at all. And for others, the yeast die off caused by certain

probiotics kept them awake.

> Can I take the probiotic with the Candidase?

So long as it is not a " good yeast " probiotic [like SaccB].

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana,

I am following a protocol of sorts and I am noticing some side

effects, Here is my schedule:

colostrum and l-lysine (empty stomach AM)

Vit c, msm, iron, coq10, biosil, Diosmin, GSE (with breakfast)

grapeseed, msm, vitamin e (lunch)

vit c, msm, Diosmin

Candidase, Glutamine, probiotic, melatonin (bedtime)

How I feel:

I am noticing a feeling of nausea as well as a lot of pain in my

ears.

I am not as constipated anymore, but I am not yet having a normal

soft bowel movement yet.

I feel whiney and irritated. I want to give up and it is so hard to

do the simplest of things without me wanting to complain. I came home

from work crying and threatening to quit because it's too hard. I

have always been a hard worker and never wanted to give up. I am

lacking stamina and I feel exhausted.

What can I do about my ears? They really hurt. Is that yeast or

bacteria?

Thanks,

paula

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> I am following a protocol of sorts and I am noticing some side

> effects, Here is my schedule:

> colostrum and l-lysine (empty stomach AM)

> Vit c, msm, iron, coq10, biosil, Diosmin, GSE (with breakfast)

> grapeseed, msm, vitamin e (lunch)

> vit c, msm, Diosmin

> Candidase, Glutamine, probiotic, melatonin (bedtime)

> How I feel:

> I am noticing a feeling of nausea as well as a lot of pain in my

> ears.

When does the nausea hit?

Pain in the ears, at my house, meant yeast overgrowth in the ears. I

used biotin and GSE to eliminate that. How much GSE are you taking?

> I am not as constipated anymore, but I am not yet having a normal

> soft bowel movement yet.

The yeast overgrowth may have migrated from your GI tract to your

ears. This happened at my house.

> What can I do about my ears? They really hurt. Is that yeast or

> bacteria?

If increasing the GSE does not help, try taking OLE or OoO.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

>

> When does the nausea hit?

After breakfast

> Pain in the ears, at my house, meant yeast overgrowth in the ears.

I

> used biotin and GSE to eliminate that. How much GSE are you taking?

4 drops at breakfast

> The yeast overgrowth may have migrated from your GI tract to your

> ears. This happened at my house.

> If increasing the GSE does not help, try taking OLE or OoO.

When should I take the OLE? Am or pm? Do I need extra yeast control

if I add the OLE? OoO makes me really wired and irritated, but that

was before I was adding GSE and Candidase for yeast. Do I need extra

yeast control if I take OoO?

I took a garlic capsule with dinner tonight. I thought it would help

with the ears. Does that cause yeast too?

My eyes have been burning really badly. Like extreme dry eye. Is

that yeast too?

I am so sick of yeast!!!!!

paula

[Guest guest]

Dana,

I wanted to add a few more side effects and ask if it is yeast or

something else:

Super thin hair

yellow and thick toenails

sinus headache and pressure

paula