Re: Virastop/ what works for various pathogens

[Guest guest]

> > O.k. I'm still in research mode here. Any advice on what to tackle

> first- Yeast, Bacteria or Virus?

This is my take on it:

1. Yeast: you really need a total program: yeast diet of some kind,

antifungal of some kind, yeast-targeting enzymes, detox program,

sleep, fluids, and good probiotics.

- GSE works great as an antifungal however they are others

For enzymes a really good mix appears to be

- 3 capsules Candidase enzymes plus

- 1 capsule of either Candex or Candizyme.

take two in the morning and two at bedtime (or whenever other time

between meals works.

- Also taking a general broad-spectrum enzyme with meals supports

this program.

Here is some yeast and bacteria information:

http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionbacteria.htm

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2. Bacteria:

- Probiotics such as Culturelle or other good probiotic

- Strong protease enzymes such as ViraStop or any of the straight

protease products like Peptizyde or Peptidase Complete

- Antibiotic of some type. I used colloidal silver to knock out my

son's chronic bacteria problem.

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3. Virus:

- ViraStop

- Vitamin C

- Olive leaf extract

- Lauricidin and other items may help

In autism, any antiviral program may cause an increase in yeast for

some people (like those with problem yeast already with the viral

problem) in the beginning. No one knows exactly why this happens, but

it is something that appears to happen only with spectrum

people...not other groups. The product vendors don't know why nor do

the autism docs nor do the microbe folks at this point, but it pops

up no matter what antiviral you use (the Valtrex group talks about it

a bunch). Not every person, but it happens often enough.

It is weird because the products that tend to work on viruses also

work on yeast and bacteria in most people. So if you already struggle

with yeast, watch your yeast control program while doing antivirals.

.

[Guest guest]

How is VitalzymeX as an anti viral enzyme?

I am a bit suspicious if it is working cos it didnt increase yeast like the

OLE did.

Thanks

Shanthi

jornmatt <kdefelice@...> wrote:

> > O.k. I'm still in research mode here. Any advice on what to tackle

> first- Yeast, Bacteria or Virus?

This is my take on it:

1. Yeast: you really need a total program: yeast diet of some kind,

antifungal of some kind, yeast-targeting enzymes, detox program,

sleep, fluids, and good probiotics.

- GSE works great as an antifungal however they are others

For enzymes a really good mix appears to be

- 3 capsules Candidase enzymes plus

- 1 capsule of either Candex or Candizyme.

take two in the morning and two at bedtime (or whenever other time

between meals works.

- Also taking a general broad-spectrum enzyme with meals supports

this program.

Here is some yeast and bacteria information:

http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionbacteria.htm

---------------------

2. Bacteria:

- Probiotics such as Culturelle or other good probiotic

- Strong protease enzymes such as ViraStop or any of the straight

protease products like Peptizyde or Peptidase Complete

- Antibiotic of some type. I used colloidal silver to knock out my

son's chronic bacteria problem.

--------------------

3. Virus:

- ViraStop

- Vitamin C

- Olive leaf extract

- Lauricidin and other items may help

In autism, any antiviral program may cause an increase in yeast for

some people (like those with problem yeast already with the viral

problem) in the beginning. No one knows exactly why this happens, but

it is something that appears to happen only with spectrum

people...not other groups. The product vendors don't know why nor do

the autism docs nor do the microbe folks at this point, but it pops

up no matter what antiviral you use (the Valtrex group talks about it

a bunch). Not every person, but it happens often enough.

It is weird because the products that tend to work on viruses also

work on yeast and bacteria in most people. So if you already struggle

with yeast, watch your yeast control program while doing antivirals.

.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Thanks for posting this. My son has been a non-responder (a

lot of viral kids are). I wondered why, when we saw emerging

speech, we saw and increase in yeast. I thought for a while that

the yeast had something to do with the speech. But your posting has

answered my questions, it is so true.

Recently we did a trial with OLE - we saw emerging speech come with

introducing and disappear when we stopped using it. Then I

reintroduced it and hey presto, very slowly he is starting to have

emerging speech. And with it the increase in giggling and OCD

behavioiurs.

Our DAN doc has recommended GSE and Virastop and I just wondered

what brands people recommend.

Much thanks

Una

[Guest guest]

> Recently we did a trial with OLE - we saw emerging speech come with

> introducing and disappear when we stopped using it. Then I

> reintroduced it and hey presto, very slowly he is starting to have

> emerging speech. And with it the increase in giggling and OCD

> behavioiurs.

OLE was really helpful for speech for my son. It eliminates viruses.

Viral die off does tend to cause yeast overgrowth, which does tend to

cause giggling.

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

> Our DAN doc has recommended GSE and Virastop and I just wondered

> what brands people recommend.

I used Nutribiotic brand GSE. Virastop is an enzyme by Enzymedica.

Dana

[Guest guest]

We have the same problem with OLE. Speech increased, but it was scripting from

Toy Story (he walks around the house repeating the phrase " yard sale " ).

Perseverative giggling and hyperactivity are also evident.

Could it be the OLE? If so, how can we counteract those effects?

Robyn

stansmumsteam <unaandjon@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for posting this. My son has been a non-responder (a

lot of viral kids are). I wondered why, when we saw emerging

speech, we saw and increase in yeast. I thought for a while that

the yeast had something to do with the speech. But your posting has

answered my questions, it is so true.

Recently we did a trial with OLE - we saw emerging speech come with

introducing and disappear when we stopped using it. Then I

reintroduced it and hey presto, very slowly he is starting to have

emerging speech. And with it the increase in giggling and OCD

behavioiurs.

Our DAN doc has recommended GSE and Virastop and I just wondered

what brands people recommend.

Much thanks

Una

[Guest guest]

> We have the same problem with OLE. Speech increased, but it was

scripting from Toy Story (he walks around the house repeating the

phrase " yard sale " ). Perseverative giggling and hyperactivity are also

evident.

>

> Could it be the OLE? If so, how can we counteract those effects?

Try increasing your yeast protocol, see if that helps.

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Dana. He is on GSE and biotin. This morning all of the giggling was gone

and he was verbalizing. I'm wondering if it could've been yeast die off that was

causing all of the giggling and hyperactivity.

Thanks again for all of your valuable info.

Robyn

danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

> We have the same problem with OLE. Speech increased, but it was

scripting from Toy Story (he walks around the house repeating the

phrase " yard sale " ). Perseverative giggling and hyperactivity are also

evident.

>

> Could it be the OLE? If so, how can we counteract those effects?

Try increasing your yeast protocol, see if that helps.

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Thanks, Dana. He is on GSE and biotin. This morning all of the

giggling was gone and he was verbalizing. I'm wondering if it could've

been yeast die off that was causing all of the giggling and hyperactivity.

That is possible. Glad it is over now!

Dana