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Dear ,

Such a sweet letter to Connie, and you don't think you contribute to the

group???? You most definitely do

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Thank you Marta for your kind words. You just proved what I was saying

about unconditional love and support from this group.

Your Lyme Friend,

in VA

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what is he taking all this for???

The quinine I know as an anti malaria medication....but it's rather

outdated....

If he's only sleeping 2 hours a night, chances are one or a combination of

these medications are causing it...he should maybe crosscheck with a

different doctor!

Personally I would take him to a good accupuncturist who also uses chinese

herbs! They usually have excellent results treating old age related problems

(and just about everything else for that matter!!)

Ambrosia

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:09:47 -0700

From: " Little Sha " <shasha@...>

Subject: Insomnia

Hello. My Father sleeps about 2 hours a night. Has for years. Sleeping

pills make him kind of groggy in the morning and I have a list of meds he is

taking. Can someone please help?

Dexamethason

Trazodone

Oxycontin

Quinine

Ambien

Allopurinol

Metoclopramide

Prevacid

He also takes prescription strength Folic Acid. Anyone?

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Rheumatoid arthritis, carpel tunnel, etc. Physically he is a wreck, but

he's not even 50 yet! The meds are recent, the insomnia ongoing for years.

How well does acupuncture work for insomnia and back pain(bulging discs)?

Sharon

Insomnia

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> Hello. My Father sleeps about 2 hours a night. Has for years. Sleeping

> pills make him kind of groggy in the morning and I have a list of meds he

is

> taking. Can someone please help?

> Dexamethason

> Trazodone

> Oxycontin

> Quinine

> Ambien

> Allopurinol

> Metoclopramide

> Prevacid

> He also takes prescription strength Folic Acid. Anyone?

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Hello,

I just recently joined the group, but my background is in medicine so

hopefully I can offer something helpful. First and most importantly, make

sure your father is getting all of his medications from one doctor, at one

pharmacy. I don't know your father's history, but I assume he is in extreme

pain based on what he has been prescribed. He is taking a dangerous

combination of very serious drugs and I cannot stress enough how much he

needs to be monitored by one physician. I would guess that he is having

trouble sleeping because of the combination of drugs he is taking. The

Dexamethason could be causing sleep disturbances, but since it is an

anti-inflammatory drug, it seems it is necessary for your father to stay on

this medication if your father is suffering from IBD, or some other kind of

inflammatory disease. Quinine is used for various different things, but is

very helpful in reducing leg cramps, and would probably aid in restful

sleep. The Oxycontin is a very strong, long acting, opiod pain reliever and

needs to be carefully monitored when taken with Trazadone and Ambien.

Ambien is a very effective sleeping medication, that is also a suppressant.

The Prevacid is used in many GI conditions and can sometimes cause

anxiousness that may interfere with sleep, but that is not likely. The

Allopurinol and Metoclopramide are not likely causing sleep disturbances,

but again, they could be when used in combination with the other drugs.

I hope this helps a little, however, the best place to get medical advice is

from his physician. It sounds like he needs to be re-evaluated because he is

not getting the relief he needs to have restful sleep. There are many

options out there, and I am sure there is a solution to his sleeplessness.

I am more of a non-conventional believer and put my trust in Naturopathic

Medicine. That may be something for you to look into. The acupuncturist

suggestion was a good one as well.

Best wishes!

Take control and feel the power of Naturopathic Medicine...

laura@...

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Please forward this digest information? Thanks.

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Subject: [] Digest Number 1022

There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Digest Number 1015

From: KemmerRDH@...

2. FWD: Doug Haney---Toxic Mold Seminar Brochure--Reno Hilton Nov 20

From: RLLIPSEY87@...

3. MOLD in Buildings Creates New Frontier in Construction Defect

Litigation, Definition of Pollution

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

4. Tempers flare in Orange debate

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

5. Toxic mold, beware: The law is watching

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

6. Nothing new in Crossroads mold problems, ex-owner says

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

7. Protecting Children

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

8. Steve Milloy on Anthrax (consider the source)

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

9. Developing Countries Learn to Limit Chemical Risks

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:29:57 EDT

From: KemmerRDH@...

Subject: Re: Digest Number 1015

Could you please send more info about the meeting in Reno later this month.

My doctor really would like to attend. Also is there controversy over using

clorox to kill mold. I have been told that quartternary ammonia is the thing

to use.

Thanks,

KKB

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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:02:49 -0700 (PDT)

From: RLLIPSEY87@...

Subject: FWD: Doug Haney---Toxic Mold Seminar Brochure--Reno Hilton Nov 20

The following webpage was forwarded to you via Counsel.Net

by a colleague. If an email address was provided, you can email

the person who posted this message by hitting " reply " to this email.

Please tell a friend about Counsel.Net!

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Poster: DR. R. LIPSEY, Toxicologist

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Doug............

Could you please send out a copy of the Toxic Mold

Seminar brochure on ToxBoard listing topics and speakers

dates and times.......and send a copy to Aerotech Lab for

their newslaetter that goes out to over 50,000

professionals in the toxic mold field.

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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:15:56 -0400

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

Subject: MOLD in Buildings Creates New Frontier in Construction Defect

Litigation, Definition of Pollution

formerly published as message #7476

http://www.insurancejrnl.com/html/ijweb/publications/IJTexas/t112000/moldinb

ldg.htm

November 20, 2000

MOLD in Buildings

Creates New Frontier in Construction Defect Litigation, Definition of

Pollution

By Tapia and Constance Parten

At the center of what could become one of the fastest growing areas of both

construction defect litigation and toxic tort litigation is an extremely

common organism found in virtually every home and building. Mold.

Over the past few years, the presence of mold in buildings has increasingly

been cited as the cause of health problems for people who interact with

so-called 'sick buildings.' While the actual number of judgments favoring

such plaintiffs is not especially high, the implications of the increase in

sick building claims are potentially far-reaching. It is an issue of growing

concern among insurance companies and attorneys who are closely watching the

cases as they pop up across the country.

Two examples of what can happen are unfolding in Visalia, Calif., population

96,750, and Dripping Springs, Tex., population 10,800.

The judge files suit

On March 27, 2000, California Superior Court Judge beth Krant filed a

lawsuit against Tulare County in which she alleged that a variety of ongoing

medical problems she was experiencing stemmed from mold contamination in her

chambers in the county courthouse located in Visalia, Calif.

Since then, approximately 275 claims have been filed against the county on

behalf of individual employees of that courthouse. A great number of those

claims-alleging that exposure to toxic mold in the courthouse sickened

employees-were rejected, opening the door for those claimants to file

personal injury claims. In fact, a second lawsuit on behalf of 101

plaintiffs was recently filed.

One of the mold types found in the courthouse was Stachybotrys chartarum

(also known as stachybotrys atra and

stachybotrys alternans), a potentially dangerous strain that has reportedly

been linked to a wide variety of adverse health effects, ranging from

allergic symptoms to pulmonary bleeding fatalities among children.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, six

varieties of mold are common in houses and buildings, and three can produce

toxins. The CDC linked one of them to 10 cases of lung disorder in infants

five years ago and 100 cases since. Unfortunately, it's impossible to

distinguish between toxic and benign molds just by looking at them-they all

look like black or gray sooty patches-without a professional sample being

taken.

However, all molds, even the toxic ones, can be cleaned up with a mild

bleach solution if they exist in small quantities.

Many environmental scientists believe cases of toxic mold in buildings are

increasing due to new forms of building materials being used and the

relative air-tightness of new construction.

on IV, a Woodland Hills, Calif. attorney who represents the

plaintiffs in both lawsuits and the majority of individuals who have filed

claims against the county, said he currently represents 1,000 plaintiffs in

mold cases throughout California.

Those cases involve school districts (for portable classrooms), a hospital,

the courthouse in Visalia, as well as single-family homes, apartments and

condominium projects.

on, who frequently teaches and gives lectures to the legal community,

said, " [e]very time I do that as part of a panel-either a toxic tort seminar

or construction defect-it's standing room only. Everybody's trying to get in

on it right now. "

While the claims filed against the public entity on behalf of the employees

represents the largest single group of potential plaintiffs, claims have

also been filed on behalf of individuals who used the courthouse, including

vendors and attorneys who are not employed by the county. In addition to

Judge Krant's lawsuit, two other judges have filed claims. A number of

workers' compensation claims have also been filed.

" I understand the plaintiffs' attorneys have represented to their clients

that they can avoid the workers' comp exclusivity rule based on the sections

provided for in the Labor Code, " said Woods, an attorney from

McCormick Barstow Sheppard Wayte & Carruth LLP in Fresno, who was retained

by the Tulare Board of Supervisors to defend the County.

The exclusivity rule, Woods explained, is one that generally states an

individual can not sue his/her employer in civil court. " Your exclusive

remedy is provided for under the workers' compensation law, " he said.

However, there are certain grounds, often having to do with concealing the

cause of the injury, on which one can get around that exclusion. In the

Krant case, the judge alleged that the cause of the injury and the dangerous

condition were concealed from her, and that county employees misled and

failed to totally inform her of the presence of mold.

Not all claims fall under the exception. The Superior Court judges, for

example, are state court employees, and, therefore, do not have a potential

workers' comp bar with suing the county.

Woods maintained that this type of case is particularly expensive to

litigate because of the lack of scientific evidence and proof that there is

a causal connection between exposure to fungi and symptoms. On the medical

side alone, a veritable army of experts can be involved. These include

mycologists, microbiologists, industrial hygienists, occupational

environmental doctors, toxicologists, immunologists, allergists and

neuropsychologists. Recently conducted air sampling tests cost the county

approximately $35,000.

" Then you get into some of the explanations for why there is water present, "

Woods said. " You then get into structural engineers, mechanical engineers,

roofing engineers, the whole aspect of construction of the building or the

area where there is mold. "

Another aspect of the expense comes into play if a construction defect case

is thrown into the mix. " Then it gets very expensive because everyone who is

in any way associated with the construction is typically named as the

defendant, " Woods said. That is happening in this case, where in the amended

complaint filed by Judge Krant, additional defendants, in one way or another

involved with the design, construction or maintenance of the courthouse,

have been added.

According to on, whose career as a construction defect attorney spans

15 years, prior to the last six years or so, such cases dealt solely with a

property damage aspect, such as a leaking roof or windows. The personal

injury component-when mold grows and makes the occupants of the building

sick-did not enter the picture.

" Construction defect comes into play because you don't have mold growth

without typically a leak, " on said. " We have to identify the defect

which caused the leak to occur, fix the leak, stop the water from coming

into the building, and then remediate the mold. Otherwise the mold just

keeps growing back. "

Classifying mold

Insurance companies are more and more often refusing to pay bodily injury

claims resulting from exposure to toxic mold in buildings, claiming the

substance falls under policy pollution exclusions.

" At this point, I think the court decisions are providing the [commercial]

policy language, " said Allstate spokesman Wolfe. The company views

such claims on a case-by-case basis, Wolfe said. " The investigation is going

to include a number of steps -factors particular in the case of liability

issues-such as who's had knowledge, what their knowledge was and what

they've done. "

While no definitive precedent-setting cases have yet been decided, attorneys

are increasingly debating the issue.

" There is a lot of controversy about this, " said S. Quinn, an

Austin, Tex. attorney and chair of the Insurance Law Section of the State

Bar of Texas. " The insurance companies want very much to make mold a

pollutant.

" It doesn't matter one iota with property damage because mold doesn't cause

damage. The damage is caused by wetness, " he said " In most cases, when you

repair the damage, you in turn fix the mold. "

The point of contention for most attorneys and insurance companies, Quinn

said, falls under bodily injury claims.

" Let's suppose you give the pollution exclusion as full a reading as

possible, " he said. " If a mold is in some way toxic, then given its

toxicity, how does it do it? If it's like an irritant or contaminant then

it's excluded. But you've got to ask yourself what these words mean. "

Quinn focuses on the everyday language, questioning whether mold is commonly

considered a pollutant or contaminant.

" Does a consumer have a pollutant problem in his kitchen if his bread is

moldy? No. Of course not, " he said. " This doesn't have to do with mold, this

has to do with bold-insurance companies are becoming bolder in defining

pollution. "

Beth Bradley, an attorney with Dallas-based , Coe, Cousins and

Irons, disagrees.

" I tend to look at it as how it causes harm, " she said. " That person is

claiming their body is being contaminated by those things, therefore, it can

be defined as a contaminant or pollutant. "

Bradley suspects the issue will escalate, saying the area is " ripe for class

actions. " She contends it is also ripe for intervention by state departments

of insurance.

In Texas, the department of insurance is monitoring the situation closely.

" It's pretty high on our radar screen right now, " said Nardecchia,

director of personal and commercial lines for the department. " Anytime you

have something like this where there's a question of coverage that could

significantly impact a lot of people, we're interested in it. "

Of particular interest are cases involving water-damage repair covered under

a homeowners policy. Is the insurer liable if the repairs do not eradicate

toxic mold spores that later lead to resident health problems?

Mold in the heart of Texas

One case in Texas raising that question has been filed by Melinda Ballard

and her husband against Farmers Insurance Group subsidiary

Fire Insurance Exchange. The case, asking for $100 million in restitution,

stems from what Ballard and claim was the insurance company's

improper handling of their claim.

The Ballard/ home, with a replacement cost rider of $3 million, was

insured by Farmers beginning in 1992. According to court documents, in 1998,

a plumbing leak occurred in a bathroom and Ballard had it repaired. Several

months later, the hardwood floor of the house started buckling and Ballard

filed a claim with Farmers.

According to the suit, in December 1998, a flooring contractor told Farmers

that dangerous molds could grow in the plywood subflooring and that Farmers

needed to have the subfloor pulled out immediately to avoid the problem.

Farmers allegedly ignored the warning and sent out an adjuster who stated

there was a slab settling problem that was not covered under the policy at

issue. Farmers also reportedly conducted a plumbing check and found no

leaks. During the first quarter of 1999, Ballard, and their

three-year-old son, Reese, began experiencing a number of unexplained

illnesses, including coughing up blood. Meanwhile, the floor's condition

continued to worsen and the water-logged subfloor caused damage to walls,

windows and doors. During this time, Farmers offered to settle the claim for

an amount that Ballard and found insufficient to cover the

increasing damage to the home.

The complaint also alleges that Farmers' microbiologist, Dan Bridge of

Rimkus Engineering in Houston, found the family to be living in space

containing airborne Stachybotrys spores, yet neither Bridge nor Farmers

informed the family of their discovery until the mold had caused

irreversible health effects.

The family retained the services of Texas Tech University to conduct testing

of the home and evacuated their residence immediately upon confirmation of

the presence of toxic spores in their living areas.

" Our allegation is that Farmers didn't handle the case properly, " said a

Janecek, Ballard and 's attorney. " Their illness is the result of a

covered loss. "

Todd Hunter, representing Farmers, declined comment on the case, and Farmers

officials did not return phone calls. The case is scheduled for hearing in

April.

No definitive test

One thing attorneys on both sides of the California courthouse case accede

to is that there is not a single standardized test currently recognized by

courts in that state as a determiner of what type of mold a person has been

exposed to-not to mention where or when that exposure took place.

on said claimants go through a diagnosis by an occupational

environmental medicine doctor, who looks at both an individual's symptoms

and the environmental exposure to mold, and then makes a diagnosis by

basically linking the two. He also indicated that some of the claimants have

undergone blood testing to determine what effect, if any, there has been on

their immune systems.

" There is a particular test that one group of plaintiffs' attorneys has

recommended, " Woods said. " This particular test is not recognized by the

FDA. "

" Regarding the micro-toxins that some fungi are physiologically capable of

producing, there is no airborne test for those either, " said Lozano,

also an attorney from McCormick Barstow Sheppard Wayte & Carruth. " So

testing people doesn't really give you any answers. A more significant test

would be to test the actual workplace, but that just gives you general

levels. There are no state or federal guidelines as to what constitutes an

acceptable or an unsafe indoor environment when it comes to mold. "

In the meantime, the courthouse has drastically curtailed operations due to

a lack of personnel.

" I think the litigation is going to be extensive, and it's going to be

expensive, " Woods concluded.

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Message: 4

Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:43:01 -0400

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

Subject: Tempers flare in Orange debate

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1281 & dept_id=7568 & newsid=2473183 & PAG=

461 & rfi=9

Tempers flare in Orange debate

Weizel, Register Correspondent October 10, 2001

ORANGE - Democratic First Selectman Goldblatt and Republican

challenger Ralph Okenquist clashed over education, zoning and open space

issues at a debate Tuesday. About 50 residents attended the hour-long

exchange at the High Plains Community Center, sponsored by the Orange

chapter of AARP.

Goldblatt touted his two-year record of open space acquisition, economic

development along Boston Post Road and leadership on zoning, transportation

and education issues.

He specifically mentioned his handling of the " debacle and cover-up " by

Amity school officials of ongoing mold problems and a $2.7 million school

budget shortfall.

" This administration has consistently shown leadership with perseverance, "

said Goldblatt. " It was proactive leadership that helped secure the largest

grant in state history ($875,000) for an open space acquisition (Housatonic

Overlook) by a municipality. "

But Okenquist blasted Goldblatt for calling for the resignation of Amity

Regional School Superintendent Rolfe Wenner after the school district's

budget overrun came to light.

" We must find a solution to the $2.7 million overrun, and ensure that this

does not happen again.

Then we can start looking for the guilty parties, " he said.

Goldblatt shot back that " Amity is in a crisis and we need new leadership

there. After everything that has happened this past year regarding the mold

problems and the budget I could not back down or turn a blind eye to this

mess that will cost each and every taxpayer. "

Okenquist also said Goldblatt has spent too much taxpayer money on legal

fees, particularly the town's ongoing court fight against AvalonBay's

proposed 168-unit affordable housing project on Prindle Hill Road.

" If elected I will re-evaluate our legal representation, " said Okenquist.

" Residents with whom I have spoken cannot believe we are spending $300,000 a

year on legal representation when we continue to lose cases. "

He also criticized Goldblatt for acquiring the Housatonic Overlook.

" I am a proponent of open space, but I believe we must be judicious in our

acquisition of open space, " said Okenquist.

Goldblatt responded angrily when Okenquist described the Housatonic Overlook

as " Alcatraz. "

" That is an insult to the more than 80 percent of voters who approved the

purchase in referendum, " said Goldblatt. " It also happens not to be true -

it's one of the most beautiful vistas in the town and was the last remaining

open space parcel overlooking the Housatonic River. "

©New Haven Register 2001

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Message: 5

Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 21:01:31 -0400

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

Subject: Toxic mold, beware: The law is watching

http://news.newspress.com/topsports/1010mold.htm

Toxic mold, beware: The law is watching

10/10/01

By NORA K. WALLACE

NEWS-PRESS STAFF WRITER

At one time or another, everyone has dealt with mold, the multicolored fungi

that grow in damp areas of basements, laundries and bathrooms.

Most are safe, but a new term has entered the lexicon -- " toxic mold " -- and

concerns are being raised about the potential dangers of exposure to too

much of the wrong types of mold.

A new law requires a comprehensive study into the health problems related to

toxic mold. Authored by Assemblywoman Hannah-Beth , D-Santa Barbara

and signed on Sunday by Gov. Gray , the law requires the California

Research Bureau to conduct a study on fungal contamination in indoor

environments, and report the findings to the Department of Health Services

and the Legislature on Jan. 1, 2003.

Mold -- there are an estimated 300,000 types -- is found indoors and

outdoors. Some can produce mycotoxins, which are natural compounds that can

hurt humans, including causing serious respiratory problems.

" The problem of toxic mold in residences, schools and offices has generated

significant public concern among the scientific and public health

communities around the world, " Ms. said.

The legislation would help environmental health experts with practical

guidelines for preventing and getting rid of fungal contamination, according

to a legislative analysis.

The Santa Barbara County Rental Property Association was one of the prime

backers of the bill. Its 850 members were concerned about owners being

unfairly penalized for mold contamination.

" Hannah-Beth said, 'Let's do a study, get measures in place before

we start penalizing, or requiring remedial work to be done,'Ê'' said Joan

, executive director of the nonprofit landlords organization. " We're

very happy to be in support of the idea of measures and parameters being

determined and established before penalties are meted out. "

Acknowledging that mold has been a factor in housing for hundreds of years,

Ms. added, " Just recently it's becoming a huge issue. Certainly it

must be dealt with. Anything that is a threat to people's health or safety

must be eradicated. "

The group wasn't alone in its support. The bill was also backed by the

Consumer Attorneys of California and the American Lung Association, among

others. There was no opposition on file.

A legislative analysis indicated the bill would bring only minimal

additional costs to the government.

In addition to signing Ms. 's bill, the governor signed SB 732, by

Sen. Deborah Ortiz, D-Sacramento. It creates the Toxic Mold Protection Act,

which sets the toughest toxic mold standards in the nation.

" I am very proud that once again -- when it comes to the environment --

California is leading the way and setting an example for others to follow, "

Gov. said in a statement. " Taken together, these bills represent some

of the toughest environmental health laws anywhere in America. "

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Message: 6

Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:27:41 -0400

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

Subject: Nothing new in Crossroads mold problems, ex-owner says

http://www.sacbee.com/news/news/local06_20011008.html

R.E. Graswich: Nothing new in Crossroads mold problems, ex-owner says

(Published Oct. 8, 2001)

Old mold: The mold infestation at the new Crossroads Sacramento police and

fire headquarters comes as a shock to city officials. But for anyone who

knows the notorious building, mold is a familiar story. " There has always

been mold in that building, and there always will be mold, " said Darrell

Corti, grocer, wine expert, bon vivant, raconteur and member of the famous

family that once owned the building. The Crossroads building was once part

of the Corti grocery empire, featuring gourmet foods for discriminating

palates. When this column suggested to Darrell that his cheese was

responsible for the mold, he scoffed and waved his hand. " It's the way the

building was designed, " he said. " It actually sits below the river level,

and water is a constant problem. You have to run a sump pump, and the

design -- it was supposed to resemble a temple -- helps create moisture.

Everyone who knows the building knows this. " Beyond the mold, the Crossroads

was the site of a plane crash that killed 22 people in 1972 (the building

sits across the street from the end of runway 12/30 at Sac Executive

Airport). Asked if bulldozing the place was the best idea, Corti fell

silent. ...

Blue dividing line: There was an interesting twist to last week's Sacramento

Police Officers Association presidential election, where six votes out of

420 decided the race. The lines weren't divided by philosophy, but age. Most

younger cops backed winner Dave Topaz (213 votes), while the older set sided

with incumbent Sgt. Victor (207 votes). " Our goal is to be an

inclusive union working for all members, " Topaz said. " We need to be working

together for the future, not fighting. "

<snip>

Perfect example: The New York Times ran an extensive story last week about

the dangers of chemical, radiological and germ terrorism. The paper

explained where particles can lodge in the body, how crop dusters and pickup

trucks can spray deadly droplets, and the lethal effects. And the Times

showed a satellite photo of a typical American city, noting how " cities

generate heat and rising air currents that can carry the germs high into the

air. " The city pictured, you might have guessed, is Sacramento. The photo

shows downtown, from the railyards to Broadway. Thanks for the publicity.

....

The Bee's R.E. Graswich can be reached at (916) 321-1087 or

rgraswich@....

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Message: 7

Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:28:04 -0400

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

Subject: Protecting Children

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/11/opinion/11HERB.html?todaysheadlines

October 11, 2001

Protecting Children

By BOB HERBERT

In a report released in March 2000, the American Academy of Pediatrics made

it clear that a terrorist attack with chemical or biological weapons would

have a disproportionate and potentially devastating effect on children.

As the U.S. moves to tighten its defenses against such an attack - while

trying at the same time to avoid creating a panic - the special needs of

children are finally beginning to get some attention.

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton will introduce legislation today that would

establish a task force to begin to deal with the problem.

" We have a lot of work to do for all of us to be better prepared, " said

Senator Clinton in an interview yesterday. " But we've got some special

concerns when it comes to our kids. The vulnerability and needs of children

have to be addressed separately. "

Children are particularly vulnerable in a variety of ways to the chemical or

biological agents most likely to be used in a terrorist attack. For example,

nerve gases like sarin, which killed a dozen people and injured thousands

when it was released in a subway in Tokyo in 1995, are quite dense, which

causes them to settle close to the ground, right in the " breathing zone " of

children.

Dr. Irwin Redlener, who is president of the Children's Hospital at

Montefiore Medical Center in the Bronx and has been in the forefront of the

effort to focus more attention on the potential effect of terrorist attacks

on children, said:

" Children have more rapid respiratory rates and larger surface-to- mass

ratios than adults, which means children are more easily affected by agents

entering through the respiratory system or the skin.

" And many of the chemical and biologic agents that might be used in an

attack cause severe vomiting and diarrhea. Children are much more

susceptible than adults to becoming dehydrated and going into shock and

cardiovascular collapse. "

Both Senator Clinton and Dr. Redlener noted there were still many

outstanding questions with regard to the proper diagnosis and treatment of

children sickened by chemical or biological agents. Will the symptoms be

recognized? And if so, what medicines would be most effective, and in what

doses?

Mrs. Clinton's legislation would create a National Task Force on Children

and Terrorism to determine what needs to be done to ensure, as much as

possible, the safety of children in the event of a bioterrorist attack. " We

have got to give parents more information about what they should and

shouldn't be doing, " said Senator Clinton.

She warned of the dangers that can result from precautions that are taken

with the best of intentions. " One of the saddest results of all this is that

many people are going out and buying gas masks, " she said. " Many parents are

motivated by the desire to protect their children, and they don't realize

that an adult-sized gas mask, for example, can suffocate a child. "

During the gulf war, she said, " Many Israeli families had gas masks, and

they had injectable antidotes for various chemical agents. More people were

injured because of improper uses or panic responses with gas masks and

injections than were hurt by any kind of attack. "

In a letter last week to the Senate majority leader, Tom Daschle, and the

minority leader, Trent Lott (with copies to Senator Clinton, among others),

Dr. Redlener warned that the nation was dangerously unprepared to cope with

the needs of children caught in a terrorist attack.

" The children's hospitals and the pediatric departments of general hospitals

have done little, if any, specific planning around managing widespread

chemical or biologic exposure among children and youth, " he wrote. " It is,

furthermore, doubtful that many such institutions have [an] appropriate or

even minimal amount of stockpiled antidotes or relevant equipment. The same

could be said with regards to any general level of understanding concerning

exposure to radioactive materials. "

Dr. Redlener, who is also president of the Children's Health Fund, which

provides services for poor children in several states, said the task force

proposed by Mrs. Clinton would be a crucial step in improving the nation's

readiness to deal with a chemical or biological attack, and the consequences

for children.

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Message: 8

Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 06:54:49 -0400

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

Subject: Steve Milloy on Anthrax (consider the source)

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/33790.htm

ANTHRAX EXPLOITERS

By STEVEN MILLOY

October 12, 2001 -- BIOTERRORISM alarmists view the death of a Florida man

from anthrax as validation of their hype and hysteria. Cooler heads see the

incident more as a limited biocrime, not a harbinger of mass bioterrorism.

Such skepticism arises from the often glossed-over difficulty of using

anthrax as a weapon of mass bioterror.

Anthrax is a bacterium that may cause death by inhalation, ingestion or skin

contact. The most lethal exposure is inhalation of anthrax spores, bodies

carrying the bacterium.

Alarmists such as American Public Health Association chief Mohammad Akhter

say, " One billionth of a gram, smaller than a speck of dust can kill. " But

one spore, even thousands, will not kill anyone.

Wool sorters inhale 150 to 700 anthrax spores an hour continually without

danger. Studies show that inhalating 10,000 spores is necessary for

infection. As with other toxins, the dose makes the poison.

The technical hurdles and costs associated with exposing many people to

enough anthrax is daunting. Before the spores can become a mass inhalation

threat, they must be converted to powdered form. Liquified anthrax would

fall to the ground and be ineffective.

Even assuming terrorists knew how to make mass quantities of powdered

anthrax without killing workers and surrounding populations, production

would cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Purchasing unemployed, ex-Soviet

bioweapons experts is insufficient.

Only the United States and Russia so far have succeeded in powderizing

anthrax for weaponization. Iraq has anthrax only in liquid form and knows

this is virtually useless.

Through 1998, U.N. inspectors found anthrax in few of the hundreds of Iraqi

warheads they examined. If Iraq had an effective form of anthrax, it would

likely have been found in many more warheads - like its many nerve-gas

warheads.

Powderizing anthrax is only part of the challenge.

Released to the air, spores are subject to weather. Too much wind disperses

them into harmless concentrations. Insufficient wind causes them to fall to

the ground where they won't rise again in harmful concentrations.

Airplanes dusting a city with spores? Not much use. The few spores entering

buildings would mostly settle; the few that didn't would likely be

insufficient in concentration to cause infection. Outside, spores would

mostly fall to the ground or be blown away and rendered harmless.

If enough spores were dropped, some people might conceivably inhale enough

to become infected. In the worst case, this might happen to dozens, not

thousands of people. A 1979 anthrax release from a Soviet lab caused about

70 deaths in a city of 1 million.

Recklessly disregarding more realistic prospects of mass anthrax terrorism,

the American Public Health Association's Akhter wrote this week, " A cloud of

anthrax spores drifting over Arlington [Va.] could kill tens of thousands of

Washingtonians within days. "

Then there's University of Minnesota epidemiologist Osterholm, who

told " 60 Minutes " : " What is important is to scare people into positive

action. "

This " scaring people into positive action " might cause a real problem:

Anthrax infection initially resembles the flu. We're being told not to take

flu-like symptoms for granted. Anthrax should be suspected, say the

alarmists.

But flu season is near. More than 100 million people in the U.S. may well

have flu-like symptoms in the near future. Should every cough, sore throat,

runny nose and headache be considered a possible case of anthrax?

Only if we want to bring our public-health system to a grinding halt.

We always will be vulnerable to limited anthrax attacks, by biocrime or

bioterrorism. We can contain these attacks with the sort of rapid response

used in Florida.

But since mass terror with anthrax is improbable, terrorizing the masses is

probably unwise.

Milloy is the publisher of JunkScience.com and author of " Junk

Science Judo: Self-defense Against Health Scares and Scams. "

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Message: 9

Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:06:30 -0400

From: " bherk " <bherk@...>

Subject: Developing Countries Learn to Limit Chemical Risks

http://ens-news.com/ens/oct2001/2001L-10-11-01.html

Developing Countries Learn to Limit Chemical Risks

ROME, Italy, October 11, 2001 (ENS) - Officials from over 100 governments

concerned with reducing the risks of chemical use, particularly in

developing countries, have been meeting in Rome this week to prepare for the

entry into force of a global treaty to govern these risks.

Delegates conclude a week long meeting tomorrow on the Rotterdam Convention

on the Prior Informed Consent Procedure (PIC). The treaty deals with certain

hazardous chemicals and pesticides in international trade, and limits the

introduction of hazardous chemicals and pesticides into countries that

cannot safely manage them.

Pakistan pesticide dump contains barrels of DDT (Photo courtesy Greenpeace)

Adopted in 1998 under the auspices of UNEP and FAO, the Rotterdam Convention

uses the prior informed consent procedure to help governments decide whether

to accept or refuse the imports of certain hazardous chemicals. Countries

that export such chemicals will have to respect the decisions of importing

parties.

Some 70,000 different chemicals are available on the market, and 1,500 new

ones are introduced every year.

In a joint statement the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) and the

UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) said, " This poses a major

challenge to many governments who must attempt to monitor and manage these

potentially dangerous substances. Many pesticides that have been banned or

whose use has been severely restricted in industrialized countries are still

marketed and used in developing countries. "

Harcharik, FAO deputy director-general, said, " Global agreements such

as the Rotterdam Convention serve to provide a level of control and can help

to mitigate the negative effects of globalization. "

FAO Deputy Director-General Harcharik (Photo courtesy FAO)

Pending the entry into force of the Rotterdam Convention, governments have

agreed to apply the PIC procedure on a voluntary basis. The processes

developed are operational, with three additional chemicals and two severely

hazardous pesticide formulations identified as candidates for inclusion in

the interim PIC procedure.

Recognizing the problem of illegal trafficking in controlled chemicals, a

start has been made towards the establishment a working group to govern

illegal trafficking under the Inter-Organization Programme for the Sound

Management of Chemicals (IOMC).

A preliminary meeting to start the work of the IOMC group was held in Geneva

on August 27. The delegates concluded that a broader meeting to establish

the IOMC working group should be held in December. In preparation, UNEP will

collect information on issues related to illicit trafficking, responsibility

and liability.

The Rotterdam Convention was adopted and signed by Ministers and senior

officials on September 11, 1998. It has received 73 signatures. To date 16

governments - Bulgaria, Czech Republic, El Salvador, Germany, Guinea,

Hungary, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, the Netherlands, Nigeria, Oman, Panama, Saudi

Arabia, Senegal, Slovenia and Suriname - have ratified, accepted, approved

or acceded to the Convention.

It will enter into force 90 days after the 50th ratification. Harcharik

urged countries to work towards ratification of the Rotterdam Convention in

time for the World Summit on Sustainable Development in September 2002.

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The last time I read on this topic, they had found 7 genes implicated in autism.

As well as that there are specific genes implicated in related conditions such

as Frag X, Syndrome, Floating Harbor, Angelmans, Prader Willi etc etc.

Other conditions such as cerebral palsy, deaf, blind, Down Syndrome can also be

associated with autism, but not necessarily.

Fragile X is inherited from the mother and is a very common cause of cognitive

delays. Girls only have Fragile X if it is inherited from both parents, and

that is very rare. The carrier can exhibit some characteristics, often

appearing as though they have Asperger Syndrome.

Message: 12

Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:21:35 -0000

From: " autiemom4 " <autiemom4@...>

Subject: Re: another child?

Actually, they have not found the autism gene, the geneticist is

speaking out of turn. Having 4 children on the spectrum has lead us

to being involved in many university and science studies to discover

the cause of autism. I am in contact with them on a regular basis and

they tell me they have not found any such information. We are all

still basically in the dark about all this.

autiemom4

Autism Family Circle

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No, the soursop fruit itself is not used for cancer.

The leaves are used as tea and if you do a google

search you will find out how effective it is for

different cancers. Studies on it are also done in

Japan and Taiwan (i believe). Research are all on lab

work only. No human tests yet, but people are not

waitiang because no pharmaceutical firm would do

further research because they could not duplicate the

chemical in it that helps cancer victims...in other

words, there is no money for them there because they

could not patent it as it comes from natural source.

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Has this helped people in advanced stage of cancer?

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melly banagale <@...> wrote: Suzy

No, the soursop fruit itself is not used for cancer.

The leaves are used as tea and if you do a google

search you will find out how effective it is for

different cancers. Studies on it are also done in

Japan and Taiwan (i believe). Research are all on lab

work only. No human tests yet, but people are not

waitiang because no pharmaceutical firm would do

further research because they could not duplicate the

chemical in it that helps cancer victims...in other

words, there is no money for them there because they

could not patent it as it comes from natural source.

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