Guest guest Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Hi Gloria, We started Nystatin powder about 3 weeks ago, having reached full dose yet as its hard to disguise the bitter taste in food..we have had signs of yeast die off and yeast infection like silly giggling and drunken behaviour. How do you get the nystatin in-are you using the powder or a liquid mix? Best Regards Bernard carlchiv10 <gloriazig1@...> wrote: I'm currently giving my son nystatin to control his yeast. I started a week ago and my question is could this cause regression on him? and if yes do this last long? I will appreciate everyones input. Sincerely Gloria --------------------------------- Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 When we started my daughter on Nystatin, she became very emotional. Lots of crying over nothing and more tantrums. Also, for the first time in a very long time, she peed in her underwear (didn't even seem aware she was doing it). We took all this as a " good " sign that the nystatin was doing its thing (our doc had warned us that we might see " regression " as part of the die-off). The behavior lasted maybe 2 weeks and then we saw a drastic improvement in her behavior. I've since read that this die-off regression reaction is pretty common and can last a few weeks. Good luck! > > I'm currently giving my son nystatin to control his yeast. I started a > week ago and my question is could this cause regression on him? and if > yes do this last long? I will appreciate everyones input. > > Sincerely > > Gloria > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Yes, I take both LDN and Nystatin. It has helped a lot. Once most of the yeast died off, the nightmares and sleep disturbances stopped. I also had more energy and cognitive ability. I can think again Most of the time anyway. It made a HUGE difference in how much the LDN helped me. I am much better off now. Cami Systemic Lupus Erythematosus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 > > Yes, I take both LDN and Nystatin. It has helped a lot. Once most of the yeast died off, the nightmares and sleep disturbances stopped. I also had more energy and cognitive ability. I can think again Most of the time anyway. It made a HUGE difference in how much the LDN helped me. I am much better off now. > > Cami > Systemic Lupus Erythematosus > =============== For those taking Nystatin for yeast overgrowth. Nystatin cannot get to the yeast in the bloodstream. So if yeast has gotten into the bloodstream you will have to use an anti-yeast diet or an anti-fungal like diflucan that can get to the yeast in the bloodstream. LDN can perform poorly if one has an abundance of candida yeast. If LDN suddenly stops working for you, the 1st culprit I'd investigate is candida yeast overgrowth, men, women and children can get this, candida yeast does not discriminate. Yeast Free Diet - Getting the Yeast Under Control A yeast free diet – or an anti-yeast diet – is one that is intended to inhibit the overgrowth of yeasts within the body, promoting health and well-being. Over the course of two to six weeks, the yeast free diet can make a radical difference in the way a person feels and and in the overall health of the body. Causes of Yeast Infections There are hundreds of species of yeast in the world, found on virtually every organic surface. Of these, six are commonly found in or on the human body. One species in particular, Candida albicans, is very common in the moist areas of our bodies: inside the mouth, the digestive tract, the urinary tract, and the vaginal canal. Most of the time, the other microorganisms in our systems – primarily bacteria – feed on the yeast and keep its growth in check. However, when something throws off the balance between bacteria and yeast, Candida can get wildly out of control. What upsets the balance? When you take antibiotics to fight off harmful bacteria, you'll find the good bacteria which feed on yeasts are just as susceptible to antibiotics as the bad ones you are trying to kill. Birth control pills and cortisone medication can also affect relative levels of bacterial colonization, as can fatigue, stress, or anything else that weakens our immune system. Symptoms and complications Usually the worst symptom we suffer from the assault of drugs upon our useful bacteria is a couple of days of diarrhea, but if the surviving bacteria don't build back up to a healthy balance quickly, yeast can gain a foothold and cause a widespread overgrowth. In the mouth, this is called " thrush " ; in the vagina, it is called " vaginitis " or " candidiasis " (or simply a " yeast infection " ), but when candidiasis occurs in the digestive tract, it can remain invisible or misdiagnosed for weeks or months, while causing a variety of uncomfortable symptoms, including constipation, bloating and gas. It can cause a person to feel full even when they haven't eaten a sufficient number of calories, and since it can also interfere with the extraction of nutrients from the food a person does eat, fatigue, low energy and hunger headaches can be common. Yeast infections usually remain localized upon a moist surface, but in prolonged cases the yeast can shift to a fungal form which sinks root-like rhizoids under the surface of the mucosa. This usually happens invisibly within the intestinal tract, and when it does, toxins and other substances which are normally prevented from penetrating the surface of the intestinal lining are given a route to invade the rest of the body, causing " leaky gut syndrome " . This systemic infection can give rise to a wide variety of symptoms on its own, such as thrush, vaginitis, diarrhea, rectal inflammation, flatulence, bladder inflammation, and even worse, it can start triggering the body's immune system to act against itself. This can lead to fatigue, muscle and joint pain, dizziness, respiratory problems, menstrual problems, eczema, acne, hives, psoriasis, insomnia, irritability and other system-wide immunological reactions which seem far removed from the source of the problem. A further complication is known as " invasive candidiasis " or " candidemia " , which occurs when yeast or yeast toxins enter the bloodstream, usually as an aftermath of injury or surgery. Yeast infection in the blood causes fever and chills that are unresponsive to antibiotics, and can spread to kidneys, liver, spleen, joints or eyes, causing additional damage. Altering your diet One of the most important steps you can take in combating recurring or systemic yeast infections is to alter your diet to deprive the yeast of sustenance by starting a yeast free diet. Processed, sugary foods are almost designed to promote yeast growth, and it's imperative to adapt the body to a more healthy style of eating if recurring or systemic infections are to be defeated. A yeast free diet can help start a person on a path to feeling healthy and well. To eliminate yeast, you need to remove the sugars they feed upon. The most important foodstuffs to avoid are those containing yeasts and molds themselves, sugar, dairy products, and fermented foods, as well as starchy and alcoholic substances that break down into sugars. Foods to avoid on a yeast free diet Yeasty foods: Breads, rolls, cookies, pastries, pretzels and other bready foods Vinegar, and foods which contain it, like mayonnaise, salad dressing, barbecue sauce, mustard, pickles and pickled foods. Wine, beer and spirits Fermented foods and beverages like sauerkraut or cider Moldy foods: All cheese Dried, smoked or pickled meats Cured bacon Mushrooms, peanuts, and pistachios Soy sauce, miso, tamari, and tempeh Malt Pre-packaged herbs and teas Canned tomatoes Sugary foods: Processed sugar (granulated, confectioner's, brown) Grapes, raisins, dates, prunes and figs; citrus fruits Fruit juices and dried fruits Soft drinks and drink mixes Honey and maple syrup High-fructose corn syrup Chocolate Starchy foods: Corn Potatoes That may seem like a lot of restrictions, and not leave you much to shop for at the grocery store, but when you start to look at it like this, it is amazing to see how much garbage we are used to putting into our bodies every day. A yeast free diet in essence gets back to the basics of natural unprocessed foods that are truly what the body needs. However, you must be wondering what can you eat, with so many common foods off limits? There are a great variety of healthy, tasty foods left to choose from that do meet the yeast free diet criteria: Vegetables, vegetables, and more vegetables, especially dark green leafy ones Beans, of any variety Meat protein, including beef, poultry, fish and shellfish, and fresh (uncured) pork Eggs Whole grains, including rice, barley, millet, couscous, and buckwheat Whole grain oatmeal and pasta; rice or spelt pasta Unprocessed seeds and nuts Vegetable oils which are unrefined (the kind that must be refrigerated) Limited amounts of non-dried, non-citrus fruit For best results, the yeast free diet should be followed strictly for at least three to six weeks. In the first few weeks, the lack of food can cause a massive die-off of yeast within the system. Unfortunately, this has the effect of dumping many yeast toxins into the intestinal and vaginal tracts, which can cause flu-like fatigue, weakness and irritability. However, the body quickly rebounds as the toxins are flushed from the system, and the yeast free diet provides much greater short-term and long-term energy reserves. Once your body has adjusted to the new diet, you will look and feel much healthier. Although in order to maintain long term health and prevent recurring yeast problems you should continue to avoid yeast, sugar and dairy products, you can gradually add sparing amounts of some of the other restricted foods back into your diet once the initial phase of the yeast free diet is complete. Add only one new food at a time, and track your body closely to see if that food causes particular problems for your system. You may also be able to find some helpful supplements through your doctor or at your health food store. " Probiotics " , which are pills with live beneficial bacteria, should be introduced during the yeast free diet to help restore a more normal balance among your internal flora, and there are also several natural non-toxic anti-fungal agents. A moderate exercise program can also help to improve your well-being. A twenty-minute session of walking, swimming or other light exercise two or three times a week is enough to make a difference, especially if you do it outside in the sunshine and fresh air. Most importantly is a conscious effort to maintain the health of the body through food intake. By implementing a yeast free diet and making a conscious effort to rely primarily on basic unprocessed foods the body will be healthier and many of the undesirable symptoms of yeast overgrowth will be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 I just wanted to comment that if anyone has Upper GI issues or liver issues then Diflucan might not be for you! I %100 agree with an anti-yeast diet! Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Great post, ! This one is a keeper! Art -- > > For those taking Nystatin for yeast overgrowth. Nystatin cannot get > to the yeast in the bloodstream. So if yeast has gotten into the > bloodstream you will have to use an anti-yeast diet or an anti- fungal > like diflucan that can get to the yeast in the bloodstream. LDN can > perform poorly if one has an abundance of candida yeast. If LDN > suddenly stops working for you, the 1st culprit I'd investigate is > candida yeast overgrowth, men, women and children can get this, > candida yeast does not discriminate. > > Yeast Free Diet - Getting the Yeast Under Control > > A yeast free diet – or an anti-yeast diet – is one that is intended > to inhibit the overgrowth of yeasts within the body, promoting health > and well-being. Over the course of two to six weeks, the yeast free > diet can make a radical difference in the way a person feels and and > in the overall health of the body. > > Causes of Yeast Infections > > There are hundreds of species of yeast in the world, found on > virtually every organic surface. Of these, six are commonly found in > or on the human body. One species in particular, Candida albicans, is > very common in the moist areas of our bodies: inside the mouth, the > digestive tract, the urinary tract, and the vaginal canal. Most of > the time, the other microorganisms in our systems – primarily > bacteria – feed on the yeast and keep its growth in check. However, > when something throws off the balance between bacteria and yeast, > Candida can get wildly out of control. What upsets the balance? When > you take antibiotics to fight off harmful bacteria, you'll find the > good bacteria which feed on yeasts are just as susceptible to > antibiotics as the bad ones you are trying to kill. Birth control > pills and cortisone medication can also affect relative levels of > bacterial colonization, as can fatigue, stress, or anything else that > weakens our immune system. > > Symptoms and complications > > Usually the worst symptom we suffer from the assault of drugs upon > our useful bacteria is a couple of days of diarrhea, but if the > surviving bacteria don't build back up to a healthy balance quickly, > yeast can gain a foothold and cause a widespread overgrowth. In the > mouth, this is called " thrush " ; in the vagina, it is > called " vaginitis " or " candidiasis " (or simply a " yeast infection " ), > but when candidiasis occurs in the digestive tract, it can remain > invisible or misdiagnosed for weeks or months, while causing a > variety of uncomfortable symptoms, including constipation, bloating > and gas. It can cause a person to feel full even when they haven't > eaten a sufficient number of calories, and since it can also > interfere with the extraction of nutrients from the food a person > does eat, fatigue, low energy and hunger headaches can be common. > > Yeast infections usually remain localized upon a moist surface, but > in prolonged cases the yeast can shift to a fungal form which sinks > root-like rhizoids under the surface of the mucosa. This usually > happens invisibly within the intestinal tract, and when it does, > toxins and other substances which are normally prevented from > penetrating the surface of the intestinal lining are given a route to > invade the rest of the body, causing " leaky gut syndrome " . > > This systemic infection can give rise to a wide variety of symptoms > on its own, such as thrush, vaginitis, diarrhea, rectal inflammation, > flatulence, bladder inflammation, and even worse, it can start > triggering the body's immune system to act against itself. This can > lead to fatigue, muscle and joint pain, dizziness, respiratory > problems, menstrual problems, eczema, acne, hives, psoriasis, > insomnia, irritability and other system-wide immunological reactions > which seem far removed from the source of the problem. > > A further complication is known as " invasive candidiasis " > or " candidemia " , which occurs when yeast or yeast toxins enter the > bloodstream, usually as an aftermath of injury or surgery. Yeast > infection in the blood causes fever and chills that are unresponsive > to antibiotics, and can spread to kidneys, liver, spleen, joints or > eyes, causing additional damage. > > Altering your diet > > One of the most important steps you can take in combating recurring > or systemic yeast infections is to alter your diet to deprive the > yeast of sustenance by starting a yeast free diet. Processed, sugary > foods are almost designed to promote yeast growth, and it's > imperative to adapt the body to a more healthy style of eating if > recurring or systemic infections are to be defeated. A yeast free > diet can help start a person on a path to feeling healthy and well. > To eliminate yeast, you need to remove the sugars they feed upon. The > most important foodstuffs to avoid are those containing yeasts and > molds themselves, sugar, dairy products, and fermented foods, as well > as starchy and alcoholic substances that break down into sugars. > > > Foods to avoid on a yeast free diet > > Yeasty foods: > Breads, rolls, cookies, pastries, pretzels and other bready foods > > Vinegar, and foods which contain it, like mayonnaise, salad dressing, > barbecue sauce, mustard, pickles and pickled foods. > > Wine, beer and spirits > > Fermented foods and beverages like sauerkraut or cider > > > Moldy foods: > All cheese > > Dried, smoked or pickled meats > > Cured bacon > > Mushrooms, peanuts, and pistachios > > Soy sauce, miso, tamari, and tempeh > > Malt > > Pre-packaged herbs and teas > > Canned tomatoes > > > Sugary foods: > Processed sugar (granulated, confectioner's, brown) > > Grapes, raisins, dates, prunes and figs; citrus fruits > > Fruit juices and dried fruits > > Soft drinks and drink mixes > > Honey and maple syrup > > High-fructose corn syrup > > Chocolate > > > Starchy foods: > Corn > > Potatoes > > That may seem like a lot of restrictions, and not leave you much to > shop for at the grocery store, but when you start to look at it like > this, it is amazing to see how much garbage we are used to putting > into our bodies every day. A yeast free diet in essence gets back to > the basics of natural unprocessed foods that are truly what the body > needs. However, you must be wondering what can you eat, with so many > common foods off limits? There are a great variety of healthy, tasty > foods left to choose from that do meet the yeast free diet criteria: > > Vegetables, vegetables, and more vegetables, especially dark green > leafy ones > > Beans, of any variety > > Meat protein, including beef, poultry, fish and shellfish, and fresh > (uncured) pork > > Eggs > > Whole grains, including rice, barley, millet, couscous, and buckwheat > > Whole grain oatmeal and pasta; rice or spelt pasta > > Unprocessed seeds and nuts > > Vegetable oils which are unrefined (the kind that must be > refrigerated) > > Limited amounts of non-dried, non-citrus fruit > > For best results, the yeast free diet should be followed strictly for > at least three to six weeks. In the first few weeks, the lack of food > can cause a massive die-off of yeast within the system. > > Unfortunately, this has the effect of dumping many yeast toxins into > the intestinal and vaginal tracts, which can cause flu-like fatigue, > weakness and irritability. However, the body quickly rebounds as the > toxins are flushed from the system, and the yeast free diet provides > much greater short-term and long-term energy reserves. > > Once your body has adjusted to the new diet, you will look and feel > much healthier. Although in order to maintain long term health and > prevent recurring yeast problems you should continue to avoid yeast, > sugar and dairy products, you can gradually add sparing amounts of > some of the other restricted foods back into your diet once the > initial phase of the yeast free diet is complete. Add only one new > food at a time, and track your body closely to see if that food > causes particular problems for your system. > > You may also be able to find some helpful supplements through your > doctor or at your health food store. " Probiotics " , which are pills > with live beneficial bacteria, should be introduced during the yeast > free diet to help restore a more normal balance among your internal > flora, and there are also several natural non-toxic anti-fungal > agents. > > A moderate exercise program can also help to improve your well- being. > A twenty-minute session of walking, swimming or other light exercise > two or three times a week is enough to make a difference, especially > if you do it outside in the sunshine and fresh air. Most importantly > is a conscious effort to maintain the health of the body through food > intake. By implementing a yeast free diet and making a conscious > effort to rely primarily on basic unprocessed foods the body will be > healthier and many of the undesirable symptoms of yeast overgrowth > will be gone. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 I agree -- this is a very helpful post. I have a question for anyone who can answer --how many have found that getting candida under control made a real difference for them in the effectiveness of the LDN? I have MS and have had limited benefit from LDN after 8-9 months so am wondering if I need to do the full Dr. McCandless anti-candida protocol/ strict diet? I'll do anything -- just wondering if everyone concurs that candida is highly correlated with MS and that taking these steps can make a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Hi , The difference I felt after getting the Candida under control was night and day. I had some improvements prior to going on Nystatin etc. but after treating for a few weeks, I was a different person. My lupus symptoms are by and large under control. I have mini-flares marked only by fatigue and slight arthritis when I'm under a great deal of stress or exposed to things I'm allergic to repeatedly. This is a huge difference from the pain, severe fatigue, dizziness, and countless other symptoms I felt when I didn't take LDN. My ANA markers did drop prior to Candida treatment, but I didn't get the same degree of relief. Cami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Hi My son recently had a poop test done which states he has a moderate yeast infection, i took him to the doctors today and got a prescription for a 30ml bottle of nystatin, he has to take 1ml 4 times a day so it will only last 7 and a half days, i asked if i could have a repeat and they basically said no. I just wondered if any of you had experience using nystatin and how long you used it for and how did you get more from the doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 we have been doing nystatin for several months. the dr scripts it...so if she only gave a week then she only gave a week... that does sound a tad strange??? we have ours done at a cmpd pharmacy. i give 1 ml 4X a day but it equals a totaly of 2 million units/day.i know some folks even go higher. if the dr DID perscribe more... then the pharm can't deny it... they should give you a month work i'd think... Amy Homeschool and Life Blog Art, Music and Nature Blog Healthy Home Blog ________________________________ From: michelle0471 <michelle0471@...> Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 4:26:15 PM Subject: Nystatin Hi My son recently had a poop test done which states he has a moderate yeast infection, i took him to the doctors today and got a prescription for a 30ml bottle of nystatin, he has to take 1ml 4 times a day so it will only last 7 and a half days, i asked if i could have a repeat and they basically said no. I just wondered if any of you had experience using nystatin and how long you used it for and how did you get more from the doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 i'm in the states. a first good step would be to go to the website for this group and type nytatin in and see what the notes say. Dana's website is wonderful an the enzymestuff website. and the DeFelice books... Amy Homeschool and Life Blog Art, Music and Nature Blog Healthy Home Blog ________________________________ From: michelle0471 <michelle0471@...> Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 5:10:40 PM Subject: Re: Nystatin Thanks for your reply Amy, Are you living in the UK too? I thought i was going to have to have a tantrum to get the nystatin as the Doctor was a " newbie " and had to ring another Doctor to get advise, i ended up speaking to the other Doctor on the phone, who tried to tell me that nystatin is topical, lucky for me i had come across Nystatin before for my daughter who had a bad case of oral thrush. She then agreed to give me the prescription, the trouble i believe is that they have come across this before - the yeast in the gut - and they really haven't a clue how long to treat it for. x > > we have been doing nystatin for several months. the dr scripts it...so if she only gave a week then she only gave a week... that does sound a tad strange??? we have ours done at a cmpd pharmacy. i give 1 ml 4X a day but it equals a totaly of 2 million units/day.i know some folks even go higher. if the dr DID perscribe more... then the pharm can't deny it... they should give you a month work i'd think... > > Amy > Homeschool and Life Blog > Art, Music and Nature Blog > Healthy Home Blog > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: michelle0471 <michelle0471@ ...> > > Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 4:26:15 PM > Subject: Nystatin > > > Hi > > My son recently had a poop test done which states he has a moderate > yeast infection, i took him to the doctors today and got a > prescription for a 30ml bottle of nystatin, he has to take 1ml 4 times > a day so it will only last 7 and a half days, i asked if i could have > a repeat and they basically said no. I just wondered if any of you had > experience using nystatin and how long you used it for and how did you > get more from the doctor. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nystatin was a great yeast suppressor for us. We took pills. Some people argue for the pure powdered form. I don't know why. From: Muge CELIK <mugeapaydindenli@...> Subject: [ ] Nystatin mugeapaydindenli@... Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 10:05 PM Hi; my sons DAN doctor prescribed " Nystatin stevia 5Ml suspension " for him. did somebody use this before? i havent heard from anybody before i wonder how does it work. thank you Muge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 We were prescribed the suspension too, though I don't remember any mention of stevia. When I checked the ingredients there was both sugar andsucralose in it, 2 things that equal nightmare in our house. We then went to the pills, but they are coated with something contianing red dye. I think that's the reason most people only want the pure powdered form. Kim On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Cowen <mlcowen@...> wrote: > > > Nystatin was a great yeast suppressor for us. We took pills. > > Some people argue for the pure powdered form. I don't know > why. > > > > > > From: Muge CELIK <mugeapaydindenli@...<mugeapaydindenli%40> > > > Subject: [ ] Nystatin > mugeapaydindenli@... <mugeapaydindenli%40> > Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 10:05 PM > > > Hi; > > my sons DAN doctor prescribed " Nystatin stevia 5Ml suspension " for him. did > somebody use this before? i havent heard from anybody before i wonder how > does it work. > > thank you > > Muge > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.