Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Hi Amy, I'm really new at this, too. I just finished Defelice's book Enzymes for Digestive Health and Nutritional Wealth. I didn't know where to start, so after researching the internet until my head swam and joining this group, I bought Digest (by Enzymedica). I like it a lot for me, but for my it's done a couple of things... first, it improved his speech within the 1st week. He's much more expressive and descriptive. However, we started having major problems with vomiting (which has always been an ongoing issue for us) and hypersensitivity. He was over-stimulated and hypersensitive to EVERYTHING. We backed him back down to 1/2 capsule and put it directly into his " tubey food " (he's on a blenderized diet - 100% tube fed) and that seemed to help. Enzymedica told me there is one or two ingredients in Digest that isn't in any of their other broad-range products so perhaps that's the problem. I'm going to try their Lacto and Digest Gold products to see if I get better results. I 'm also going to try Trienza because people here have had such great results with the Houston NI products. It's not much to go on, but I thought I'd give you my experience with Digest. Constipation is not an issue for us, so I can't help you there. At least your likes broccoli! Dana C. -------------- Original message -------------- From: " amylapain " <lapain.amy@...> i read the Defelice book (autism one) a few years ago- did the Houston enzymes- never got thru the first month even with go it slow. Reading the newer book and on about chapter 4. trying to do enzymes again but with more thinking this time. definately has yeast issues (per stool testing) but I don't want to start there (various types of probiotics constipate him.) i don't think he digests much of anything so I think when i started w the houston I was going too high too fast evven at the low doses. I am not sure digests a whole lot and much food comes thru whole- so what would be a more general place to start w/ specific brands or types? Almost any orange vegetable constipates him even w/ MUCH water! he does good w/ fruits but of course that isn't great for the yeast. Thankfully he does eat a fair amount of broccoli- his main veg. I am loathe to go to yet another doctor who will give advice that won't work and enzymes is one thing we havn't probably given a fair shake. Where is a BASIC enzyme to start with? i have looked at the files and the links and the archives...so much information!!!! thanks amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 i saw that one on enzymestuff. did you buy locally or over the web? thinking i might start w/ the gold. but also a friend suggested I call houston and / or kirkman on Monday and tell them my theories and see what they might recommend. amy > > Hi Amy, > > I'm really new at this, too. I just finished Defelice's book Enzymes for Digestive Health and Nutritional Wealth. I didn't know where to start, so after researching the internet until my head swam and joining this group, I bought Digest (by Enzymedica). I like it a lot for me, but for my it's done a couple of things... first, it improved his speech within the 1st week. He's much more expressive and descriptive. However, we started having major problems with vomiting (which has always been an ongoing issue for us) and hypersensitivity. He was over-stimulated and hypersensitive to EVERYTHING. We backed him back down to 1/2 capsule and put it directly into his " tubey food " (he's on a blenderized diet - 100% tube fed) and that seemed to help. Enzymedica told me there is one or two ingredients in Digest that isn't in any of their other broad- range products so perhaps that's the problem. I'm going to try their Lacto and Digest Gold products to see if I get better results. I > 'm also going to try Trienza because people here have had such great results with the Houston NI products. > > It's not much to go on, but I thought I'd give you my experience with Digest. Constipation is not an issue for us, so I can't help you there. At least your likes broccoli! > > Dana C. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: " amylapain " <lapain.amy@...> > i read the Defelice book (autism one) a few years ago- did the > Houston enzymes- never got thru the first month even with go it > slow. Reading the newer book and on about chapter 4. trying to do > enzymes again but with more thinking this time. definately > has yeast issues (per stool testing) but I don't want to start there > (various types of probiotics constipate him.) i don't think he > digests much of anything so I think when i started w the houston I > was going too high too fast evven at the low doses. I am not sure > digests a whole lot and much food comes thru whole- so what > would be a more general place to start w/ specific brands or types? > Almost any orange vegetable constipates him even w/ MUCH water! he > does good w/ fruits but of course that isn't great for the yeast. > Thankfully he does eat a fair amount of broccoli- his main veg. I am > loathe to go to yet another doctor who will give advice that won't > work and enzymes is one thing we havn't probably given a fair > shake. Where is a BASIC enzyme to start with? i have looked at > the files and the links and the archives...so much information!!!! > > thanks > amy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 We tried every enzyme known to man and finally found Lacto from Enzymedia. It has been a life saver. These are the only enzymes/supplements our son can tolerate. starting new- again! i read the Defelice book (autism one) a few years ago- did the Houston enzymes- never got thru the first month even with go it slow. Reading the newer book and on about chapter 4. trying to do enzymes again but with more thinking this time. definately has yeast issues (per stool testing) but I don't want to start there (various types of probiotics constipate him.) i don't think he digests much of anything so I think when i started w the houston I was going too high too fast evven at the low doses. I am not sure digests a whole lot and much food comes thru whole- so what would be a more general place to start w/ specific brands or types? Almost any orange vegetable constipates him even w/ MUCH water! he does good w/ fruits but of course that isn't great for the yeast. Thankfully he does eat a fair amount of broccoli- his main veg. I am loathe to go to yet another doctor who will give advice that won't work and enzymes is one thing we havn't probably given a fair shake. Where is a BASIC enzyme to start with? i have looked at the files and the links and the archives...so much information!!!! thanks amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 I bought Digest directly from Enzymedica online. Then once started having issues, I spoke with Alessandra who works for Enzymedia and is on this listserve. She talked with one of the technical people and suggested I try Gold or Lacto - she is sending me samples of each. Then I called Houston NI and talked with them comparing Trienza to PrimeZime and Peptizyde (sp?). They're sending me a sample of Trienza to see if that works better for . I looked at Kirkman's website, but decided to come back to them later if these don't work well for . Waaayyyy too many choices and it boggles the mind. Hope that helps at least a little. Dana C. -------------- Original message -------------- From: " amylapain " <lapain.amy@...> i saw that one on enzymestuff. did you buy locally or over the web? thinking i might start w/ the gold. but also a friend suggested I call houston and / or kirkman on Monday and tell them my theories and see what they might recommend. amy > > Hi Amy, > > I'm really new at this, too. I just finished Defelice's book Enzymes for Digestive Health and Nutritional Wealth. I didn't know where to start, so after researching the internet until my head swam and joining this group, I bought Digest (by Enzymedica). I like it a lot for me, but for my it's done a couple of things... first, it improved his speech within the 1st week. He's much more expressive and descriptive. However, we started having major problems with vomiting (which has always been an ongoing issue for us) and hypersensitivity. He was over-stimulated and hypersensitive to EVERYTHING. We backed him back down to 1/2 capsule and put it directly into his " tubey food " (he's on a blenderized diet - 100% tube fed) and that seemed to help. Enzymedica told me there is one or two ingredients in Digest that isn't in any of their other broad- range products so perhaps that's the problem. I'm going to try their Lacto and Digest Gold products to see if I get better results. I > 'm also going to try Trienza because people here have had such great results with the Houston NI products. > > It's not much to go on, but I thought I'd give you my experience with Digest. Constipation is not an issue for us, so I can't help you there. At least your likes broccoli! > > Dana C. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: " amylapain " <lapain.amy@...> > i read the Defelice book (autism one) a few years ago- did the > Houston enzymes- never got thru the first month even with go it > slow. Reading the newer book and on about chapter 4. trying to do > enzymes again but with more thinking this time. definately > has yeast issues (per stool testing) but I don't want to start there > (various types of probiotics constipate him.) i don't think he > digests much of anything so I think when i started w the houston I > was going too high too fast evven at the low doses. I am not sure > digests a whole lot and much food comes thru whole- so what > would be a more general place to start w/ specific brands or types? > Almost any orange vegetable constipates him even w/ MUCH water! he > does good w/ fruits but of course that isn't great for the yeast. > Thankfully he does eat a fair amount of broccoli- his main veg. I am > loathe to go to yet another doctor who will give advice that won't > work and enzymes is one thing we havn't probably given a fair > shake. Where is a BASIC enzyme to start with? i have looked at > the files and the links and the archives...so much information!!!! > > thanks > amy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 yes it helps- thanks! will call and talk to 'someone' on Monday. I know what you mean about too many choices which is a good thign right?? but I was a bit leary to even post here thinking I'llget 10000 various ways to try. but at least if one doesn't work I can try another. thanks again amy > > > > Hi Amy, > > > > I'm really new at this, too. I just finished Defelice's book > Enzymes for Digestive Health and Nutritional Wealth. I didn't know > where to start, so after researching the internet until my head swam > and joining this group, I bought Digest (by Enzymedica). I like it > a lot for me, but for my it's done a couple of things... > first, it improved his speech within the 1st week. He's much more > expressive and descriptive. However, we started having major > problems with vomiting (which has always been an ongoing issue for > us) and hypersensitivity. He was over-stimulated and hypersensitive > to EVERYTHING. We backed him back down to 1/2 capsule and put it > directly into his " tubey food " (he's on a blenderized diet - 100% > tube fed) and that seemed to help. Enzymedica told me there is one > or two ingredients in Digest that isn't in any of their other broad- > range products so perhaps that's the problem. I'm going to try > their Lacto and Digest Gold products to see if I get better > results. I > > 'm also going to try Trienza because people here have had such > great results with the Houston NI products. > > > > It's not much to go on, but I thought I'd give you my experience > with Digest. Constipation is not an issue for us, so I can't help > you there. At least your likes broccoli! > > > > Dana C. > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: " amylapain " <lapain.amy@> > > i read the Defelice book (autism one) a few years ago- did the > > Houston enzymes- never got thru the first month even with go it > > slow. Reading the newer book and on about chapter 4. trying to do > > enzymes again but with more thinking this time. definately > > has yeast issues (per stool testing) but I don't want to start > there > > (various types of probiotics constipate him.) i don't think he > > digests much of anything so I think when i started w the houston I > > was going too high too fast evven at the low doses. I am not sure > > digests a whole lot and much food comes thru whole- so what > > would be a more general place to start w/ specific brands or > types? > > Almost any orange vegetable constipates him even w/ MUCH water! he > > does good w/ fruits but of course that isn't great for the yeast. > > Thankfully he does eat a fair amount of broccoli- his main veg. I > am > > loathe to go to yet another doctor who will give advice that won't > > work and enzymes is one thing we havn't probably given a fair > > shake. Where is a BASIC enzyme to start with? i have looked at > > the files and the links and the archives...so much information!!!! > > > > thanks > > amy > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 > Almost any orange vegetable constipates him even w/ MUCH water! My son could eating nothing orange or green, even with enzymes, until I corrected his improper carotene conversion problem. I used HNI enzymes for most foods tho http://www.houstonni.com/ Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 I just read a bit about this on dana's view... how do you measure this? just by the lack of certain vitamins/minerals in the system? or can it get better through proper absorption of the vit/min. after repair from enzymes. thanks amy > > Almost any orange vegetable constipates him even w/ MUCH water! > > > My son could eating nothing orange or green, even with enzymes, until > I corrected his improper carotene conversion problem. > > I used HNI enzymes for most foods tho > > http://www.houstonni.com/ > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 > > I just read a bit about this on dana's view... how do you measure > this? just by the lack of certain vitamins/minerals in the system? > or can it get better through proper absorption of the vit/min. after > repair from enzymes. I don't know that I really understand your question. You are replying to a message where I mentioned that my son did not tolerate orange or green foods until I corrected his carotene conversion problem. I learned this by challenging foods and doing lots of research. You might be able to make an educated guess regarding carotene conversion, based on deficiencies and toxicities in the body, but I did not do it that way. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Hi Amy I'm the person Dana C. was referring to. I work for Enzymedica's education department. Digest Gold is a great product but if you want to start low and slow, LACTO would be the way to go. It's so mild even infants can take it. If you can work your way up to Digest Gold that would be great! A lot of people can just start off with the Gold and are fine but I THINK you mentioned you wanted to start off low and slow. If you would like I can send you samples of both products. I would recommend even giving him some of the Digest Gold capsules. Start off with a lacto then 1/2 digest gold and then a full Digest Gold. If he has no problems with them it could just be the last product he was on that he didn't react well with. HOPE THIS HELPS! Alessandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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