Re: How do you know when to start anti-virals

[Guest guest]

>

> My son is a pretty high functioning, 7yo, current issues:

focus/attention,

> video talk (actually this is really decreasing), starts talking about

> something like you already know what he is saying - no lead in,

excitable

> with physical exercise, desire to play with other kids but lacks

initiation

> and ability to maintain play - doesn't really know how to play with

others.

All of these can be viral, or they can also be caused by yeast

overgrowth and/or deficiency of B1/B12/folic.

> Im thinking yeast and virus (virus because he tests postive for Strep on

> throat cultures/carrier, and because he gets rare/random fevers for

a few

> hours then his symptoms really decrease for a couple of days).

Strep is a bacteria. I eliminate strep and several viruses with OLE,

which is an anti-bacterial and anti-viral. You can try giving OLE if

you want. Watch for yeast overgrowth, because viral die off tends to

cause a LOT of yeast.

>>he has a long thanksgiving break coming up and Im thinking of doing

> the antiviral treatment during it, but Im not sure if he is prepared

from a

> yeast perspective - how would I guage this?

Do you know what it takes to keep yeast under control? If so, then

you can start the anti-viral protocol then. It did take me 4 years to

entirely eliminate viruses here, but based on what I now know, it

could have taken only 2 years. But be prepared for " the long haul " .

> And just because I want somebody who actually gets how cool this is, he

> learned how to tie his shoes by himself this morning!!! I thought this

> would be years out. Doin' the happy mommy dance

Congrats to you and to him!

Dana

[Guest guest]

Definately more interested in the 2 year program

So this is what I am thinking:

Vira Stop using the method of giving it until a rash appears. Concurrently

using Candidase and Probiotics for yeast. He is currently using Digest Gold

but I am considering switching over to Trienza, especially for the affects

of the No-Fenol (I am unsure if Digest Gold is comparable and I need to

research that) Im not sure how the OLE fits into the ViraStop treatment,

should he take it the whole time at a steady dose?

I'd definately like to know how you would do it today versus what you did

then?

Thank YOU

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 6:38 AM, danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > My son is a pretty high functioning, 7yo, current issues:

> focus/attention,

> > video talk (actually this is really decreasing), starts talking about

> > something like you already know what he is saying - no lead in,

> excitable

> > with physical exercise, desire to play with other kids but lacks

> initiation

> > and ability to maintain play - doesn't really know how to play with

> others.

>

> All of these can be viral, or they can also be caused by yeast

> overgrowth and/or deficiency of B1/B12/folic.

>

> > Im thinking yeast and virus (virus because he tests postive for Strep on

> > throat cultures/carrier, and because he gets rare/random fevers for

> a few

> > hours then his symptoms really decrease for a couple of days).

>

> Strep is a bacteria. I eliminate strep and several viruses with OLE,

> which is an anti-bacterial and anti-viral. You can try giving OLE if

> you want. Watch for yeast overgrowth, because viral die off tends to

> cause a LOT of yeast.

>

> >>he has a long thanksgiving break coming up and Im thinking of doing

> > the antiviral treatment during it, but Im not sure if he is prepared

> from a

> > yeast perspective - how would I guage this?

>

> Do you know what it takes to keep yeast under control? If so, then

> you can start the anti-viral protocol then. It did take me 4 years to

> entirely eliminate viruses here, but based on what I now know, it

> could have taken only 2 years. But be prepared for " the long haul " .

>

> > And just because I want somebody who actually gets how cool this is, he

> > learned how to tie his shoes by himself this morning!!! I thought this

> > would be years out. Doin' the happy mommy dance

>

> Congrats to you and to him!

>

> Dana

>

>

>

--

Ormonde, L.Ac.

Auburn Community Acupuncture

[Guest guest]

> Vira Stop using the method of giving it until a rash appears.

Concurrently

> using Candidase and Probiotics for yeast. He is currently using

Digest Gold

> but I am considering switching over to Trienza, especially for the

affects

> of the No-Fenol (I am unsure if Digest Gold is comparable and I need to

> research that) Im not sure how the OLE fits into the ViraStop treatment,

> should he take it the whole time at a steady dose?

I started with OLE, then added Virastop. This combination was really

great.

Vitamin C and lysine were required to address the underlying problem.

Be sure to give lysine at least 2 hours apart from OLE.

Viral die off causes a LOT of yeast. I had to use biotin and GSE to

control the yeast. I tried Candidase, and it worked well only if the

yeast was not too bad. But once the protocol was in full force,

Candidase alone was unable to keep the yeast under control.

> I'd definately like to know how you would do it today versus what

you did

> then?

I used OLE/Virastop for two years, until my son's symptoms told me he

no longer needed them. But there were still viruses, and new viruses

would just go right into his brain. I learned that vitamin C and

lysine were required to correct the immune system and keep the new

viruses out of his brain. It required 2 years of high dose C and 8

months of high dose lysine. If I had given all four of these at the

same time, I would have eliminated two years off the protocol.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana, what dosages of OLE, GSE, Biotin, Lysine, and Vit C?

For those who have done the virastop treatment - how long did it take? He

has a 9 day break at the end of this month, would this be long enough? I

can do it during christmas break but wasn't really wanting to do it then if

I could avoid it.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:46 AM, danasview <danasview@...> wrote:

>

> > Vira Stop using the method of giving it until a rash appears.

> Concurrently

> > using Candidase and Probiotics for yeast. He is currently using

> Digest Gold

> > but I am considering switching over to Trienza, especially for the

> affects

> > of the No-Fenol (I am unsure if Digest Gold is comparable and I need to

> > research that) Im not sure how the OLE fits into the ViraStop treatment,

> > should he take it the whole time at a steady dose?

>

> I started with OLE, then added Virastop. This combination was really

> great.

>

> Vitamin C and lysine were required to address the underlying problem.

> Be sure to give lysine at least 2 hours apart from OLE.

>

> Viral die off causes a LOT of yeast. I had to use biotin and GSE to

> control the yeast. I tried Candidase, and it worked well only if the

> yeast was not too bad. But once the protocol was in full force,

> Candidase alone was unable to keep the yeast under control.

>

> > I'd definately like to know how you would do it today versus what

> you did

> > then?

>

> I used OLE/Virastop for two years, until my son's symptoms told me he

> no longer needed them. But there were still viruses, and new viruses

> would just go right into his brain. I learned that vitamin C and

> lysine were required to correct the immune system and keep the new

> viruses out of his brain. It required 2 years of high dose C and 8

> months of high dose lysine. If I had given all four of these at the

> same time, I would have eliminated two years off the protocol.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

--

Ormonde, L.Ac.

Auburn Community Acupuncture

[Guest guest]

> Dana, what dosages of OLE, GSE, Biotin, Lysine, and Vit C?

Here are my starting doses:

OLE -- 250mg

GSE -- one drop

Biotin -- 400mcg

Lysine -- 250mg

Vitamin C -- 500mg

> For those who have done the virastop treatment - how long did it take?

My son's total time on Virastop was one year. Total time on

anti-virals was 4 years. I could have reduced that to 2 years if I

had known more info when I started.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana - any side effects to look out for when starting this anti-

viral protocol?

brandi:)

> > Dana, what dosages of OLE, GSE, Biotin, Lysine, and Vit C?

>

>

> Here are my starting doses:

>

> OLE -- 250mg

> GSE -- one drop

> Biotin -- 400mcg

> Lysine -- 250mg

> Vitamin C -- 500mg

>

>

> > For those who have done the virastop treatment - how long did it

take?

>

>

> My son's total time on Virastop was one year. Total time on

> anti-virals was 4 years. I could have reduced that to 2 years if I

> had known more info when I started.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

i just stopped my son's antiviral after seven years. he was on valtrex than

famvir.

I was concerned that i was hurting him with these serious meds.

Is virastop as effective??

@...: brandijones@...: Sat, 15

Nov 2008 15:55:06 +0000Subject: Re: How do you know when to start

anti-virals

Dana - any side effects to look out for when starting this anti-viral

protocol?brandi:)> > Dana, what dosages of OLE, GSE, Biotin,

Lysine, and Vit C?> > > Here are my starting doses:> > OLE -- 250mg> GSE -- one

drop> Biotin -- 400mcg> Lysine -- 250mg> Vitamin C -- 500mg> > > > For those who

have done the virastop treatment - how long did it take?> > > My son's total

time on Virastop was one year. Total time on> anti-virals was 4 years. I could

have reduced that to 2 years if I> had known more info when I started.> > Dana>

[Guest guest]

> Dana - any side effects to look out for when starting this anti-

> viral protocol?

Viral die off tends to cause a LOT of yeast, so watch for that.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> i just stopped my son's antiviral after seven years. he was on

valtrex than famvir.

> I was concerned that i was hurting him with these serious meds.

> Is virastop as effective??

I used OLE, Virastop, vitamin C, and lysine. It took me 4 years

[would have taken 2 if I had known a few more pieces of information

when I started].

At my house, the vitamin C and lysine [high doses] were required to

get the viruses out of his brain and heal the immune system so new

viruses did not go back in.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Here are my starting doses:

OLE -- 250mg

GSE -- one drop

Biotin -- 400mcg

Lysine -- 250mg

Vitamin C -- 500mg

Dana, how high did you go on these and how often would you increase?

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[Guest guest]

>

> Here are my starting doses:

> OLE -- 250mg -- 3000mg 3x per day

> GSE -- one drop -- 2 tablets 3x per day

> Biotin -- 400mcg -- 20mg 3x per day

> Lysine -- 250mg -- 3000mg 3x per day

> Vitamin C -- 500mg -- 20grams 3x per day

> Dana, how high did you go on these and how often would you increase?

See above for the maximum I used.

Dana