Re: Antiviral therapy?

[Guest guest]

Have you increased anti-yeast protocol? anti-viral causes yeast overgrowth to my

son. He had 23 days of regression after taking Valtrex, then gained everything

back. However the yeast overgrowth was a big issue, I had to stop Valtrex. He is

on OLE plus Virastop now.

I remember my son vomit 8 times and developed a low fever when we introduced OLE

at 1/3 cap (500mg/cap). We had to stop OLE and reintroduced it from 1/16 cap.

Could it be die off reaction? How about give him a lower dosage of anti-viral

and increase the anti-yeast protocol?

Connie

Antiviral therapy?

Hi,

Can parents please share their experience with virastop. Or for the

matter, valtrex or other antiviral therapy. Can lethargy and being

emotional be part of healing regression? Has anyone seen big gains

with virastop and how long did it take. Was there a healing

regression and what was it? sorry for so many questions...I am really

desperate to get some answers.

My 4.5 yr old child with asd is on virastop since past 2 weeks. He

has become extremely lethargic, emotional and stimming more. His ABA

therapists have also stopped coming since they feel it has become

aversive when they try to work with him. Before virastop, he was

nicely progressing with ABA, and ofcourse all the supplement were

also helping him.

I don't see any rashes on him now. He did have few when we started

and they disappeared in few days. Also later, he had fevers on and

off and they have also gone. now it is the emotional and irritable

symptoms. I am just so confused if I am doing the right thing since I

have never seen him this way.

Thanks very much

rohini

[Guest guest]

> Can parents please share their experience with virastop.

It worked well here, altho some kids don't do well with it.

>> Or for the

> matter, valtrex or other antiviral therapy.

I never used Valtrex. I eliminated viruses here with OLE, Virastop,

vitamin C, and lysine.

>> Can lethargy and being

> emotional be part of healing regression?

As a " general rule " , I don't believe in the concept of healing

regression. Regressions are caused by specific factors, in my

experience. Sometimes they are necessary, most of the time they are not.

Lethargy and emotional, related to anti-virals, I would first consider

yeast overgrowth. Viral die off tends to cause a LOT of yeast.

>> Has anyone seen big gains

> with virastop and how long did it take.

Not just from Virastop, but from all four of the supps I indicated

above, my son's language and social skills vastly improved, and most

of his stims disappeared. It took 4 years to completion.

>>Was there a healing

> regression and what was it?

Not for my son, altho I did have to keep yeast under control. I used

biotin and GSE.

> My 4.5 yr old child with asd is on virastop since past 2 weeks. He

> has become extremely lethargic, emotional and stimming more.

What are the stims?

> I don't see any rashes on him now. He did have few when we started

> and they disappeared in few days. Also later, he had fevers on and

> off and they have also gone.

This may have been the first wave of viral die off.

Dana

[Guest guest]

My guess would be a lack of sufficient Vit. C and Zinc as well as amplified

yeast issues. As we treat the viral issues with Virastop and Monolaurin (yes, at

one time we used Valtrex, with no success) we require even more Vit. C, Zinc and

a mirror increase in our yeast protocol. If we don't dose the GSE, Candidase and

No Fenol within 60-90 minutes after doing the antiviral treatment, we get a

temper the likes of which there is no reasoning with the child. If we don't

increase the Vit. C and Zinc (basically I now give the Vit. C and a

multi-vitamin at the same time I dose the antiviral) to match each increase in

the viral protocol, he's weak, doesn't want to be in the sun, lethargic, can't

keep his head up to do his homework. So, I increase as I see the symptoms

return. We're on a steady increase of the Virastop, but in order to reinstate

the Ojibwa tea treatment, which also has antiviral properties, I had to forgo

one of our virastop/monolaurin doses. So, I don't know that our protocol would

work for anyone else. I will write this, we've seen the IgA increase during our

Virastop protocol, may be due to the large doses of proteases, may be due to the

boost his immune system is getting with regard to the virus (herpes 6). Don't

know. I also know that he doesn't require the Vit. C/Zinc when we dose the tea,

so I know it's gentler on him, and the tea's herbs are high in those vitamins in

and of themselves, so this too helps.

Antiviral therapy?

Hi,

Can parents please share their experience with virastop. Or for the

matter, valtrex or other antiviral therapy. Can lethargy and being

emotional be part of healing regression? Has anyone seen big gains

with virastop and how long did it take. Was there a healing

regression and what was it? sorry for so many questions...I am really

desperate to get some answers.

My 4.5 yr old child with asd is on virastop since past 2 weeks. He

has become extremely lethargic, emotional and stimming more. His ABA

therapists have also stopped coming since they feel it has become

aversive when they try to work with him. Before virastop, he was

nicely progressing with ABA, and ofcourse all the supplement were

also helping him.

I don't see any rashes on him now. He did have few when we started

and they disappeared in few days. Also later, he had fevers on and

off and they have also gone. now it is the emotional and irritable

symptoms. I am just so confused if I am doing the right thing since I

have never seen him this way.

Thanks very much

rohini

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much to all. So I payed close attention and it appeared as

though his behavior issues escalated 1/2 hr to an hr after virastop.

And after the diflucan which I have started giving once daily mid-

morning, he appears to be fine for a short period of time till his

next virastop dose. So I added no-fenol along with the virastop and

gave him and he is a LOT better. Yes, he does get 50 mg of zinc and 4

doses of 500 mg Vit C daily. He also gets biotin, transfer factor,

lauricidin, enzymes, apart from the other supplements.

He is at 11 caps per day of virastop. After the yeast control, he has

become his normal self. I was hoping to see some gains, but have not

seen any except for the clearing of his eczema (which ofcourse is a

big one).

How high have you gone on the virastop? And have you seen any gains

with it.

Also, I was curious if after the valtrex regression ended, did you

see any gains at all?

Thanks

Rohini

>

> My guess would be a lack of sufficient Vit. C and Zinc as well as

amplified yeast issues. As we treat the viral issues with Virastop

and Monolaurin (yes, at one time we used Valtrex, with no success) we

require even more Vit. C, Zinc and a mirror increase in our yeast

protocol. If we don't dose the GSE, Candidase and No Fenol within 60-

90 minutes after doing the antiviral treatment, we get a temper the

likes of which there is no reasoning with the child. If we don't

increase the Vit. C and Zinc (basically I now give the Vit. C and a

multi-vitamin at the same time I dose the antiviral) to match each

increase in the viral protocol, he's weak, doesn't want to be in the

sun, lethargic, can't keep his head up to do his homework. So, I

increase as I see the symptoms return. We're on a steady increase of

the Virastop, but in order to reinstate the Ojibwa tea treatment,

which also has antiviral properties, I had to forgo one of our

virastop/monolaurin doses. So, I don't know that our protocol would

work for anyone else. I will write this, we've seen the IgA increase

during our Virastop protocol, may be due to the large doses of

proteases, may be due to the boost his immune system is getting with

regard to the virus (herpes 6). Don't know. I also know that he

doesn't require the Vit. C/Zinc when we dose the tea, so I know it's

gentler on him, and the tea's herbs are high in those vitamins in and

of themselves, so this too helps.

> Antiviral therapy?

>

>

> Hi,

>

> Can parents please share their experience with virastop. Or for

the

> matter, valtrex or other antiviral therapy. Can lethargy and

being

> emotional be part of healing regression? Has anyone seen big

gains

> with virastop and how long did it take. Was there a healing

> regression and what was it? sorry for so many questions...I am

really

> desperate to get some answers.

>

> My 4.5 yr old child with asd is on virastop since past 2 weeks.

He

> has become extremely lethargic, emotional and stimming more. His

ABA

> therapists have also stopped coming since they feel it has become

> aversive when they try to work with him. Before virastop, he was

> nicely progressing with ABA, and ofcourse all the supplement were

> also helping him.

>

> I don't see any rashes on him now. He did have few when we

started

> and they disappeared in few days. Also later, he had fevers on

and

> off and they have also gone. now it is the emotional and

irritable

> symptoms. I am just so confused if I am doing the right thing

since I

> have never seen him this way.

>

> Thanks very much

> rohini

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> You mentioned that you gave OLE and lysine along with virastop and vit

> C. Can you please tell me the doses of all these. I am thinking of

> slowly add these supplements.

Be sure to give lysine at least 2 hours apart from OLE, the lysine

will inactivate the OLE.

I started one at a time, so I could monitor reactions.

This protocol will tend to cause a LOT of yeast, because viral die off

tends to cause a LOT of yeast. I used biotin and GSE to control yeast.

I started with the following doses per day, and worked up:

OLE: 250mg

Lysine: 250mg

Vitamn C: 250mg

Virastop: 1 capsule on empty stomach

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Thanks very much, Dana. Are there any upper limits to these 4

> supplements?

Yes. I increased slowly until they started causing problems [except

yeast, which they will cause, because viral die off causes yeast].

But once I reached the limit, they did cause other problems.

> We are at 11 caps of virastop and 3000 mg of Vit C divided 3 times a

> day. His stools are formed, we never saw diarrhea, if at all he is on

> the constipated side.

Yeast overgrowth can be constipating. Try increasing your yeast protocol.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi Rohini,

I work for Enzymedica's education department. If you have any

questions or concern please feel free to ask me.

Alessandra

>

> Hi,

>

> Can parents please share their experience with virastop. Or for the

> matter, valtrex or other antiviral therapy. Can lethargy and being

> emotional be part of healing regression? Has anyone seen big gains

> with virastop and how long did it take. Was there a healing

> regression and what was it? sorry for so many questions...I am

really

> desperate to get some answers.

>

> My 4.5 yr old child with asd is on virastop since past 2 weeks. He

> has become extremely lethargic, emotional and stimming more. His

ABA

> therapists have also stopped coming since they feel it has become

> aversive when they try to work with him. Before virastop, he was

> nicely progressing with ABA, and ofcourse all the supplement were

> also helping him.

>

> I don't see any rashes on him now. He did have few when we started

> and they disappeared in few days. Also later, he had fevers on and

> off and they have also gone. now it is the emotional and irritable

> symptoms. I am just so confused if I am doing the right thing since

I

> have never seen him this way.

>

> Thanks very much

> rohini

>

[Guest guest]

Alessandra

Can you tell me the proper way to use Candidase? The bottle says you should

use it for 2 weeks - but it seems people on the list are using it longer. We

know we are battling yeast. I am also unclear as to whether that automatically

means Candida or if there are different types of yeast.

Thanks much

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[Guest guest]

Alessandra

Can you tell me the proper way to use Candidase? The bottle says you should

use it for 2 weeks - but it seems people on the list are using it longer. We

know we are battling yeast. I am also unclear as to whether that automatically

means Candida or if there are different types of yeast.

Thanks much

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