Re: stiiming

[Guest guest]

I experienced the same thing...for whatever reason, Tri enza does not produce

the same results then using the seperate enzymes.

Kathy

stiiming

Hi

I changed my sons enzymes from AFP peptizyde and no fenol to tri-enza.

i noticed he started doing a stimm pacing thinh he ued to do 4 months

ago tha had compeltally disapeared. He also has bad bacteria and a

parasite he is being treated for. I decided to add some of the old AFP

in between meals and a bit added at meals with the tri-enza although i

know its in there. He stimmed so much less today. Coincidence? Any

thoughts? Thanks

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I just realized my cordless keyboard needs batteries wow what bad

writing lol... I think I am going to stop the tri-enza and if the stimming stops

I am writing the company. He has been making Dad cry : (    He thinks he is

regressing and I am like no it has to be something else... men... well at least

he cares

stiiming

Hi

I changed my sons enzymes from AFP peptizyde and no fenol to tri-enza.

i noticed he started doing a stimm pacing thinh he ued to do 4 months

ago tha had compeltally disapeared. He also has bad bacteria and a

parasite he is being treated for. I decided to add some of the old AFP

in between meals and a bit added at meals with the tri-enza although i

know its in there. He stimmed so much less today. Coincidence? Any

thoughts? Thanks

[Guest guest]

We had the same problem. It took us some time to figure it out that

it could be the TRIENZA but last week we switched back to the

separate enzymes and school is already reporting that stimming has

improved

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> I experienced the same thing...for whatever reason, Tri enza does

not produce the same results then using the seperate enzymes.

>

> Kathy

> stiiming

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>

> Hi

> I changed my sons enzymes from AFP peptizyde and no fenol to tri-

enza.

> i noticed he started doing a stimm pacing thinh he ued to do 4

months

> ago tha had compeltally disapeared. He also has bad bacteria and

a

> parasite he is being treated for. I decided to add some of the

old AFP

> in between meals and a bit added at meals with the tri-enza

although i

> know its in there. He stimmed so much less today. Coincidence?

Any

> thoughts? Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Wow that is three of us....I guess we should contact Houston... Houston, we

have a problem ( Sorry, couldnt resist!)

Kathy

stiiming

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>

> Hi

> I changed my sons enzymes from AFP peptizyde and no fenol to tri-

enza.

> i noticed he started doing a stimm pacing thinh he ued to do 4

months

> ago tha had compeltally disapeared. He also has bad bacteria and

a

> parasite he is being treated for. I decided to add some of the

old AFP

> in between meals and a bit added at meals with the tri-enza

although i

> know its in there. He stimmed so much less today. Coincidence?

Any

> thoughts? Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI

We too had that problem, but w/ time it went away...it was just like starting

over again...how long have you all been on the trienza? It took us a couple of

weeks, but now the gains are good.

Carla

stiiming

>

>

> Hi

> I changed my sons enzymes from AFP peptizyde and no fenol to tri-

enza.

> i noticed he started doing a stimm pacing thinh he ued to do 4

months

> ago tha had compeltally disapeared. He also has bad bacteria and

a

> parasite he is being treated for. I decided to add some of the

old AFP

> in between meals and a bit added at meals with the tri-enza

although i

> know its in there. He stimmed so much less today. Coincidence?

Any

> thoughts? Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It been about 3 1/2 weeks and it just was getting worse and worse each day. We

are out of no fenol but still have the afp so until I get more no fenol I think

I am going to give some tri-enza but also AFP and see how that goes.

stiiming

>

>

> Hi

> I changed my sons enzymes from AFP peptizyde and no fenol to tri-

enza.

> i noticed he started doing a stimm pacing thinh he ued to do 4

months

> ago tha had compeltally disapeared. He also has bad bacteria and

a

> parasite he is being treated for. I decided to add some of the

old AFP

> in between meals and a bit added at meals with the tri-enza

although i

> know its in there. He stimmed so much less today. Coincidence?

Any

> thoughts? Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry to step in, good to hear this because we just ordered for the first time

some trienza and I was getting discouraged reading the emails. I will let you

all know our outcome and how our son adapted.

Carla Dexter <cdexter0325@...> wrote:

HI

We too had that problem, but w/ time it went away...it was just like starting

over again...how long have you all been on the trienza? It took us a couple of

weeks, but now the gains are good.

Carla

stiiming

>

>

> Hi

> I changed my sons enzymes from AFP peptizyde and no fenol to tri-

enza.

> i noticed he started doing a stimm pacing thinh he ued to do 4

months

> ago tha had compeltally disapeared. He also has bad bacteria and

a

> parasite he is being treated for. I decided to add some of the

old AFP

> in between meals and a bit added at meals with the tri-enza

although i

> know its in there. He stimmed so much less today. Coincidence?

Any

> thoughts? Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We have been on the Trienza since it came out in November or so with no problems

until March when he started letter airwriting which would have been just a

couple weeks after the new formulation of Trienza came out. Not sure if there

is any correlation and I would think it would have started right away if its was

the Trienza wouldn't it? I have tried several things per my DAN doctor and also

per Dana for this stim (hadn't seen it in years) but nothing is working and his

teacher said it may be getting worse.

tami

stiiming

>

>

> Hi

> I changed my sons enzymes from AFP peptizyde and no fenol to tri-

enza.

> i noticed he started doing a stimm pacing thinh he ued to do 4

months

> ago tha had compeltally disapeared. He also has bad bacteria and

a

> parasite he is being treated for. I decided to add some of the

old AFP

> in between meals and a bit added at meals with the tri-enza

although i

> know its in there. He stimmed so much less today. Coincidence?

Any

> thoughts? Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We've been on Trienza since Nov./Dec and just started the new

formulation about 6 weeks ago. I've since learned that it doesn't

have the same amount of No Fenol as a No Fenol capsule - only 1/2 the

amount. Could that be the problem?

I've been using 3 Trienza's or add'l 1/2 No Fenol to get more in.

Unfortunately, I've noticed no benefits of the enzymes (except No

Fenol). ASD son still stims and doesn't like eye contact when talking.

HTH,

Deb

[Guest guest]

Have you tried AFP peptidyde? This was my sons first enzymes and we saw great

things almost right away. He is gf/cf so thats what I tried right away. Has your

son had any stool testing for malabsorption, bacteria or yeast? I didnt think my

son had any problems and testing came back with problems in all. The AFP helps.

Then I added no fenol because I noticed him reacting to high phenolic foods.

Tonight while I was at work my sons Dad misunderstood my directions and didn't

give tri-enza at all just AFP and my son did not stimm once. It was  up to like

5 minutes of stimming every 20 minutes..it was bad. How old is your son? And is

he verbal?

Re: stiiming

We've been on Trienza since Nov./Dec and just started the new

formulation about 6 weeks ago. I've since learned that it doesn't

have the same amount of No Fenol as a No Fenol capsule - only 1/2 the

amount. Could that be the problem?

I've been using 3 Trienza's or add'l 1/2 No Fenol to get more in.

Unfortunately, I've noticed no benefits of the enzymes (except No

Fenol). ASD son still stims and doesn't like eye contact when talking.

HTH,

Deb

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[Guest guest]

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> We have been on the Trienza since it came out in November or so with

no problems until March when he started letter airwriting

At my house, writing letters in the air was eliminated primarily with

folic acid, plus mB12, TMG, carnitine, a few anti-virals [primarily

vitamin C and lysine], plus watch for yeast.

>>I have tried several things per my DAN doctor and also per Dana for

this stim (hadn't seen it in years) but nothing is working and his

teacher said it may be getting worse.

What have you tried?

Dana

[Guest guest]

we have tried folic acid, MB12, TMG, Vit C, put SAM-e back in, treated for yeast

with Diflucan, biotin. Haven't tried anti-virals. We just sent test off to

make sure we got the yeast. Last night while discussing this with him at his

request he had a major meltdown over it. He has always been able to not stim in

school until this and he doesn't understand why he can't now. He said he is

doing his best, wish he was born normal etc... broke my heart. Lots of

frustration and anger that I have NEVER seen with him, he has always been laid

back and such a people pleaser but going through puberty (he's 11) so I don't

know if hormones are adding to the situation or if its something else.

Not sure what to do for him.

Tami

Re: stiiming

>

> We have been on the Trienza since it came out in November or so with

no problems until March when he started letter airwriting

At my house, writing letters in the air was eliminated primarily with

folic acid, plus mB12, TMG, carnitine, a few anti-virals [primarily

vitamin C and lysine], plus watch for yeast.

>>I have tried several things per my DAN doctor and also per Dana for

this stim (hadn't seen it in years) but nothing is working and his

teacher said it may be getting worse.

What have you tried?

Dana

[Guest guest]

> we have tried folic acid, MB12, TMG, Vit C, put SAM-e back in,

treated for yeast with Diflucan, biotin. Haven't tried anti-virals.

It took several months of 40,000mcg folic acid per day [my son was

severely deficient], plus carnitine because folic requires carnitine

for proper absorption, before my son's letters-in-the-air was gone.

mB12 and TMG were also helpful. Vitamin C and lysine [lysine was

wonderful here] were also important.

Dana