Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 --I sent you my story privately, and also sent it to your neighbor. I wasn't sure if I should post it on the site since it is fairly long. Read it and if you think it would be beneficial, let me know and I will post it. Saundra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Oh pls do post it! We're all starved for info! > > --I sent you my story privately, and also sent it to your neighbor. > I wasn't sure if I should post it on the site since it is fairly long. > Read it and if you think it would be beneficial, let me know and I > will post it. > Saundra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Saundra's LDN story I was diagnosed with Graves Disease in the end of March 2007. I stated on 10mg of MMI, and after 1 month, I had no reduction in thyroid levels. On May 5th, 2007 I had Radioactive Iodine treatment to kill my thyroid. I had just turned 35 years old and am considered Morbidly obese. I weighed 218 lbs, and am 5'0 " tall. Unfortunately, I was one of the few that didn't loose weight while hyper. Over the next 6 months, my thyroid died off quickly. On October 6th, 2007, my labs showed a TSH of 26, and a very, very low Ft3, and Ft4. I was hypo, and terribly symptomatic. I had gained 20 pounds. While I am sure I would never do it, I understood suicide. The loss of hope, the terrible, debilitating depression, was more than I could stand. The constant, complete exhaustion made my life a living hell. I knew at this point, one way or the other, that this was not how I was going to live. This is when I found a thyroid support group on , and where I learned of LDN. Not much is known about Graves Disease, other than it is an autoimmune disease. When I very first started reading about LDN, I knew, without a doubt, in my gut, that this was the answer I was looking for. I tried to get several doctors to prescribe it to me. None had even heard of it, and none were willing to learn or listen. After all, I was just a patient with memory issues, and terrible brain fog. How could I teach THEM anything? So, I took it upon myself to learn. I admit, at that time, it took me a long time for the information to be absorbed. But, I read the same thing, over and over and over again, until I could recall it with no issues. I knew the quality of life I had was not going to change, unless I did something about it myself. At this point, it is the middle of February, 2008. My TSH was 3.4.... within " range. " I could only get a TSH, since once again, doctors down here in Southern Alabama really are behind the current research, and the effects of T3 and T4 on the body. I had went through 3 different doctors before I realized none of them were going to test me properly. I was told my levels were " perfect " and maybe I needed to see a psychiatrist. I know my own body, and I was not fine, much less perfect. I was on 100mcg of Synthroid (name brand) daily. On March 1st., 2008. I began LDN. I purchased it overseas, from a respected, much used, pharmacy. I get 50 mg. tablets and dissolve them in 50ml. of distilled water. I started at 1.5 mg./night. The very first night, I experienced terrible sleep disturbances. The next day, I had a racing heart with a HR of 148 bpm if I exerted myself at all. Resting HR was over 100. My blood pressure increased to 148/100. But I knew this was possible, so I decided to just take it really easy, and ride it out. The next day, My HR and BP were once again, elevated, but was coming down. The sleep disturbance continued. By day 3, my HR and BP had stabilized, but the sleep disturbance continued. Lack of quality sleep is the one thing that affects me the most. I decided there was no way I was going to go through this with each increase, so within 2 weeks I had brought myself up to the maximum dose of 4.5 mg/night. I went from 1.5 to 2.0 to 3.0 to 4.5 mg. in 2 weeks. The only time I experienced ANY sleep disturbance was those first couple of days. It has now been 6 weeks since I started LDN. The changes in me are unbelievable!!! I feel like my old self. No, better than my old self. I have not felt this good since I was a teenager...before giving birth at 18 years old. I am certain that pregnancy was the beginning of my thyroid problems., and they just continued over the next 18 years. Along with the Graves Disease, I had constant diahrrea. I was told by several doctors that is was probably because I no longer had a gallbladder, and the bile was dripping directly into my stomach. I had many scopes and tests that all came out normal. I had just learned to live with it. Once I started LDN, the diahrrea became much worse. I also remember reading that if you had undiagnosed celiac's disease or bowl issues, that LDN can make them worse.(temporarily) I am sure that is what happened with me. However, since I do not have any health insurance, I must once again just go with my gut. The beauty is that after several weeks on LDN, I finally was having normal bowl movements. Please keep in mind that even when terribly HYPO, I never was constipated...I always had very loose stool. I wake in the morning refreshed. My sleep has never been better. I still wake several times turning the night, but the quality of sleep I am getting since starting LDN can not compare to anything other than the sleep of a young child after being outside all day. I finally dream again. I have not dreamt in 20 years. I love the dreams. Let's look at endorphin production and autoimmune disease for a minute. I feel they are directly related. I feel this because for many years, when I would wake in the middle of the night, I would crave chocolate. Sometimes I wouldn't even remember eating it, but the evidence was clearly there...empty wrappers!!! I also asked many doctors about this, and was told that night eating was an actual eating disorder, and to see a psychiatrist. ( are you seeing a pattern here???) Recently, I found out that Chocolate may increase endorphin levels....HMMM??? Since starting LDN, my chocolate cravings are all but gone. I have lost 5 pounds over the last 6 weeks, with no effort. My appetite has decreased tremendously, and the night eating is gone. This leads me to believe that the chocolate was a way for my body to self medicate...to increase endorphin levels. I believe that for the last 20 years, my endorphin production was minimal at best. I believe this is what lead to the autoimmune disease. OF course, this is just my uneducated opinion. However, nobody knows me better than me. Let's address libido now. At 18 years old, it was very good. After the birth of my daughter at 18, it disappeared, and never came back.Since starting LDN, I feel like a hormone crazed teenager again. Much to the excitement of my husband!!!! My depression is completely gone! My anxiety is completely gone. My energy levels have come up dramatically. I still have physical issues from being hypo..ie.. muscle cramps, and I still tire more easily than usual. I still do have the " brain fog " but it has lessoned dramatically also. I feel hopeful for the first time in 18 years. I no longer take Celexa, or any anti-anxiety medication. (however, I did completely ween off of this and made sure significant time had passed to allow it to get out of my system, prior to starting LDN..so I know it is due to the LDN, not residuals left in my system.) I had been using Cannabis to combat the anxiety symptoms. I also find I no longer want that. I am almost " normal " and I contribute every bit of it to LDN. I laugh, I cry, I feel. And like I said, I feel better than I have in over 20 years. LDN is truly a " miracle " drug. Please, don't let the pharmaceutical companies control the quality of life of those afflicted with autoimmune diseases. This drug needs to be mainstreamed. If someone would just step back, and consider what the world is missing by not allowing a good quality of life for us, maybe, together, we could change the world. And, I have already begun. Because of the positive results of LDN, I will be getting a full time job soon. This will allow my husband to finally go to college this fall, and become a high school history teacher. What better way to change the world, than to start with our youth!! I have montitered my BP and HR throughout. Along with my temperatures. I have recorded thyroid lab work from before starting LDN, and then again 27 days after I began. In another 4 weeks, I will be getting more lab work done. I have waited to switch from Synthroid to Armour specifically so I could have a record of the effects of LDN on thyroid hormone levels. I did not want any variables. After several sets of labs however, I do plan to switch to Armour. Research shows that the brain is not adept at converting the T4 to T3, and that is where my " brain fog " is coming from. I am hoping once adding T3 to the mix, I will once again feel 100% normal. I will also monitor vitals and labs along with the Armour medication. We will then be able to look at Synthroid and Armour in regards to LDN. I will also have 4 tier cortisol levels, estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, DHEA DHEA (pool) TSH, FT3, FT4 and all antibody levels for comparison. Unfortunately, my baseline for all of these is 27 days AFTER the start of LDN. (except TSH< and a few F3 and FT4 levels) I also have a thyroid ultrasound that was done in Feb. prior to LDN, which showed significant thyroid tissue left. I am also wondering if as the thyroid dies off after radiation, if LDN will boost the immune system in such a way to allow the thyroid to regenerate. We know of people who must have the RAI done several times before it works. This proves that the thyroid is in fact, capable of regenerating. My hopes are that one day, my thyroid will have completely healed itself. Through the elimination of the antibodies from LDN, and the boost in immune system function. Even if this doesn't happen, the results of LDN thus far are very much worth it. I am including my real name, and actual contact information. If anyone is interested in any of the data I have collected, or is interested in the effects of LDN on a partially working thyroid, please feel free to contact me. I will help in any way I can. Sincerely hopeful, and it is all due to LDN, Saundra Renz 301 Straford Circle South Daphne, AL. 36526 251-626-5549 (home) 251-404-6647 (cell) 251-459-2271 (cell message number > > > > --I sent you my story privately, and also sent it to your neighbor. > > I wasn't sure if I should post it on the site since it is fairly long. > > Read it and if you think it would be beneficial, let me know and I > > will post it. > > Saundra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 THANK YOU Saundra! This is SO helpful and inspiring! I am truly grateful for you sharing this. I'm going to re-read now! XOXO DD > > > > > > --I sent you my story privately, and also sent it to your neighbor. > > > I wasn't sure if I should post it on the site since it is fairly long. > > > Read it and if you think it would be beneficial, let me know and I > > > will post it. > > > Saundra > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Brilliant!!! > > > > > > --I sent you my story privately, and also sent it to your neighbor. > > > I wasn't sure if I should post it on the site since it is fairly long. > > > Read it and if you think it would be beneficial, let me know and I > > > will post it. > > > Saundra > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Dearest , You had me laughing and crying and holding my 2 hands together in anticipation for each new sentence. You are a wonderful writer and you are a fighter. I am so impressed that you went with your gut feeling and that you knew in your heart what you needed to try. May I forward this on to Dr. Gluck and to Cris at Healthcase for posting on her web page? Also, may I save your story and share it with others that inquire about LDN for Graves disease and Thyroid problems? Thank you so much for sharing your story. You are truly an inspiration. All my best Aletha [low dose naltrexone] Re: Aletha Saundra's LDN storyI was diagnosed with Graves Disease in the end of March 2007. I statedon 10mg of MMI, and after 1 month, I had no reduction in thyroidlevels. On May 5th, 2007 I had Radioactive Iodine treatment to kill mythyroid. I had just turned 35 years old and am considered Morbidlyobese. I weighed 218 lbs, and am 5'0" tall. Unfortunately, I was oneof the few that didn't loose weight while hyper.Over the next 6 months, my thyroid died off quickly. On October 6th,2007, my labs showed a TSH of 26, and a very, very low Ft3, and Ft4.I was hypo, and terribly symptomatic. I had gained 20 pounds. While Iam sure I would never do it, I understood suicide. The loss of hope,the terrible, debilitating depression, was more than I could stand.The constant, complete exhaustion made my life a living hell. I knewat this point, one way or the other, that this was not how I was goingto live. This is when I found a thyroid support group on , andwhere I learned of LDN.Not much is known about Graves Disease, other than it is an autoimmunedisease. When I very first started reading about LDN, I knew, withouta doubt, in my gut, that this was the answer I was looking for. Itried to get several doctors to prescribe it to me. None had evenheard of it, and none were willing to learn or listen. After all, Iwas just a patient with memory issues, and terrible brain fog. Howcould I teach THEM anything? So, I took it upon myself to learn. Iadmit, at that time, it took me a long time for the information to beabsorbed. But, I read the same thing, over and over and over again,until I could recall it with no issues. I knew the quality of life Ihad was not going to change, unless I did something about it myself. At this point, it is the middle of February, 2008. My TSH was 3.4....within "range." I could only get a TSH, since once again, doctorsdown here in Southern Alabama really are behind the current research,and the effects of T3 and T4 on the body. I had went through 3different doctors before I realized none of them were going to test meproperly. I was told my levels were "perfect" and maybe I needed tosee a psychiatrist. I know my own body, and I was not fine, much lessperfect. I was on 100mcg of Synthroid (name brand) daily. On March 1st., 2008. I began LDN. I purchased it overseas, from arespected, much used, pharmacy. I get 50 mg. tablets and dissolve themin 50ml. of distilled water. I started at 1.5 mg./night. The veryfirst night, I experienced terrible sleep disturbances. The next day,I had a racing heart with a HR of 148 bpm if I exerted myself at all.Resting HR was over 100. My blood pressure increased to 148/100. But Iknew this was possible, so I decided to just take it really easy, andride it out. The next day, My HR and BP were once again, elevated, butwas coming down. The sleep disturbance continued. By day 3, my HR andBP had stabilized, but the sleep disturbance continued. Lack ofquality sleep is the one thing that affects me the most. I decidedthere was no way I was going to go through this with each increase, sowithin 2 weeks I had brought myself up to the maximum dose of 4.5mg/night. I went from 1.5 to 2.0 to 3.0 to 4.5 mg. in 2 weeks. Theonly time I experienced ANY sleep disturbance was those first coupleof days.It has now been 6 weeks since I started LDN. The changes in me areunbelievable!!! I feel like my old self. No, better than my old self.I have not felt this good since I was a teenager...before giving birthat 18 years old. I am certain that pregnancy was the beginning of mythyroid problems., and they just continued over the next 18 years.Along with the Graves Disease, I had constant diahrrea. I was told byseveral doctors that is was probably because I no longer had agallbladder, and the bile was dripping directly into my stomach. I hadmany scopes and tests that all came out normal. I had just learned tolive with it. Once I started LDN, the diahrrea became much worse. Ialso remember reading that if you had undiagnosed celiac's disease orbowl issues, that LDN can make them worse.(temporarily) I am sure thatis what happened with me. However, since I do not have any healthinsurance, I must once again just go with my gut. The beauty is thatafter several weeks on LDN, I finally was having normal bowlmovements. Please keep in mind that even when terribly HYPO, I neverwas constipated...I always had very loose stool. I wake in the morning refreshed. My sleep has never been better. Istill wake several times turning the night, but the quality of sleep Iam getting since starting LDN can not compare to anything other thanthe sleep of a young child after being outside all day. I finallydream again. I have not dreamt in 20 years. I love the dreams.Let's look at endorphin production and autoimmune disease for a minute.I feel they are directly related. I feel this because for many years,when I would wake in the middle of the night, I would crave chocolate.Sometimes I wouldn't even remember eating it, but the evidence wasclearly there...empty wrappers!!! I also asked many doctors aboutthis, and was told that night eating was an actual eating disorder,and to see a psychiatrist. ( are you seeing a pattern here???)Recently, I found out that Chocolate may increase endorphinlevels....HMMM??? Since starting LDN, my chocolate cravings are allbut gone. I have lost 5 pounds over the last 6 weeks, with no effort.My appetite has decreased tremendously, and the night eating is gone.This leads me to believe that the chocolate was a way for my body toself medicate...to increase endorphin levels. I believe that for thelast 20 years, my endorphin production was minimal at best. I believethis is what lead to the autoimmune disease. OF course, this is justmy uneducated opinion. However, nobody knows me better than me.Let's address libido now. At 18 years old, it was very good. After thebirth of my daughter at 18, it disappeared, and never came back.Sincestarting LDN, I feel like a hormone crazed teenager again. Much to theexcitement of my husband!!!!My depression is completely gone! My anxiety is completely gone. Myenergy levels have come up dramatically. I still have physical issuesfrom being hypo..ie.. muscle cramps, and I still tire more easily thanusual. I still do have the "brain fog" but it has lessoneddramatically also. I feel hopeful for the first time in 18 years. I nolonger take Celexa, or any anti-anxiety medication. (however, I didcompletely ween off of this and made sure significant time had passedto allow it to get out of my system, prior to starting LDN..so I knowit is due to the LDN, not residuals left in my system.) I had beenusing Cannabis to combat the anxiety symptoms. I also find I no longerwant that. I am almost "normal" and I contribute every bit of it to LDN.I laugh, I cry, I feel. And like I said, I feel better than I have inover 20 years. LDN is truly a "miracle" drug. Please, don't let the pharmaceuticalcompanies control the quality of life of those afflicted withautoimmune diseases. This drug needs to be mainstreamed. If someonewould just step back, and consider what the world is missing by notallowing a good quality of life for us, maybe, together, we couldchange the world. And, I have already begun. Because of the positiveresults of LDN, I will be getting a full time job soon. This willallow my husband to finally go to college this fall, and become a highschool history teacher. What better way to change the world, than tostart with our youth!!I have montitered my BP and HR throughout. Along with my temperatures.I have recorded thyroid lab work from before starting LDN, and thenagain 27 days after I began. In another 4 weeks, I will be gettingmore lab work done. I have waited to switch from Synthroid to Armourspecifically so I could have a record of the effects of LDN on thyroidhormone levels. I did not want any variables. After several sets oflabs however, I do plan to switch to Armour. Research shows that the brain is not adept at converting the T4 to T3, and that is where my"brain fog" is coming from. I am hoping once adding T3 to the mix, Iwill once again feel 100% normal. I will also monitor vitals and labsalong with the Armour medication. We will then be able to look atSynthroid and Armour in regards to LDN.I will also have 4 tier cortisol levels, estrogen, progesterone,testosterone, DHEA DHEA (pool) TSH, FT3, FT4 and all antibody levelsfor comparison. Unfortunately, my baseline for all of these is 27days AFTER the start of LDN. (except TSH< and a few F3 and FT4levels) I also have a thyroid ultrasound that was done in Feb. priorto LDN, which showed significant thyroid tissue left. I am alsowondering if as the thyroid dies off after radiation, if LDN willboost the immune system in such a way to allow the thyroid toregenerate. We know of people who must have the RAI done several timesbefore it works. This proves that the thyroid is in fact, capable ofregenerating. My hopes are that one day, my thyroid will havecompletely healed itself. Through the elimination of the antibodiesfrom LDN, and the boost in immune system function. Even if thisdoesn't happen, the results of LDN thus far are very much worth it.I am including my real name, and actual contact information. If anyoneis interested in any of the data I have collected, or is interested inthe effects of LDN on a partially working thyroid, please feel free tocontact me. I will help in any way I can.Sincerely hopeful, and it is all due to LDN,Saundra Renz301 Straford Circle SouthDaphne, AL. 36526251-626-5549 (home)251-404-6647 (cell)251-459-2271 (cell message number> >> > --I sent you my story privately, and also sent it to your neighbor.> > I wasn't sure if I should post it on the site since it is fairly long.> > Read it and if you think it would be beneficial, let me know and I> > will post it.> > Saundra> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Dear Saundra, Wow! What an inspiring story! You are one smart, courageous lady. Thanks for sharing. That's what this is all about, isn't it, sharing our experiences to help each other? Konnie Peace __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 -Aletha, You most certainly can use it in any way you would like!! That goes for anyone else too. My main objective is to help anyone and everyone I can. If my story can do that...then life has handed me another " miracle " ...and that is my purpose!! You know, sometimes when faced with debilitating disease, or traumatic events, one stops and asks " why me? " I learned a long time ago everything happens for a reasons. With my Graves disease, I now find the reason. If it wasn't for my struggles...that have lead me to LDN, my best friend's son may very well die. He has scleroderma, and is about to embark on his journey with LDN. I know, again, in my gut, that this is the miracle they have been looking for. Had it not been for my health issues, they would have never known about LDN. So, for me, I thank the " gods " that I was given Graves disease!!!! And also to everyone here that spends countless hours giving advice, sometimes over and over and over again. Your contributions NEVER go unnoticed or unappreciated!! Thanks you, Saundra -- In low dose naltrexone , " Aletha Wittmann " <Aletha@...> wrote: > > Dearest , > > You had me laughing and crying and holding my 2 hands together in anticipation for each new sentence. You are a wonderful writer and you are a fighter. I am so impressed that you went with your gut feeling and that you knew in your heart what you needed to try. > > May I forward this on to Dr. Gluck and to Cris at Healthcase for posting on her web page? Also, may I save your story and share it with others that inquire about LDN for Graves disease and Thyroid problems? > > Thank you so much for sharing your story. You are truly an inspiration. > > All my best > Aletha > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Thank you Konnie!! Yes, it is about helping people...and not the mighty dollar( or yen, or peso or whatever..lol) Unfortunately, the more folks start to benefit from this drug, the bigger fight we are going to have. At least here in the USA..the country run by pharmaceutical companies!! Saundra > > Dear Saundra, > Wow! What an inspiring story! You are one smart, > courageous lady. Thanks for sharing. That's what this > is all about, isn't it, sharing our experiences to > help each other? > Konnie > > Peace > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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