Re: Question about chelation?? - Marie

[Guest guest]

Marie,

Your question isn't all that odd, we run into it all the time at our

house - with family, friends, new acquaintances. I'll try to give you

my family's perspective so that maybe you can see a different side of

the health care paradigm.

As with most everything, in health care one will find there is another

spectrum - reality, and it often doesn't match up with the

" professional " opinion. I have found that reality is where this group

lives. Most realize that they are in the position they are because they

followed the advice of a professional - some of us blindly - until it

was too late. I hadn't even related my son's ills to his early

childhood and vaccinations until my husband and I sat down and thought

really hard. What we remembered was a social, chatty, VERY happy child

- until one point, then he cried at all meals (previously his favorite

time of the day), started being very quiet, and though happy, it was in

a different, more introverted way. Those tantrums, where he would throw

himself on the floor and crash his head trying to get my attention? We

realize now, they weren't " age related " and something we just had to go

through. Neither was the bedwetting that started up again after him

being fully night trained. We didn't have to go through that at all!

But, at the time, we didn't know, no professional told us the truth

about the dangers of immunizations, commercially grown foods, local

pesticide and other contamination in the water, the danger of fluoride

in our water and toothpaste, etc. There was so much we didn't know

about the harmful exposure in our world, so much of it being touted as

the healthy way to do things by our " professionals. "

We are now thankful that when our children were much younger we started

down an " alternative " health care road - which is actually more

traditional through history, only " alternative " to the young allopathic

method now touted as norm and the only true medicine. I hate to think

what may have become of my son had we continued with modern methods of

vaccination, commercially grown foods, unnatural environments, etc,

which are all touted as the way to do things. His body even kept us from

poisoning him more, as he was allergic to drugs MDs prescribed!!! PTL

Spend some time in the files section of the board, reading. Then check

out the many links and even read a lot of Andy's posts. Those are my

favorites because they are so informative. Don't trust the

" professionals " to give you sound advice, or really know. Our dentist

tried to convince me of the safety of fluoride by saying he takes it

himself and would drink it! But, he was very good about making note

there would be no fluoride for our children. It probably helped that we

started seeing him when the oldest were teens, and they had no cavities

with NO fluoride. I'm sure had he been their pediatric dentist, he would

have pushed harder. Many here will attest to the fact that the very MDs

who wanted to give their children vaccines, who said they were safe,

also didn't have a clue what was in them! There are those who are good,

but in general it has become a system of the blind following the blind.

The MDs are told by the pharm companies what the newest drug will do for

their patients, and of course given lots of free samples to hand out.

The FDA rushes to approve, the populace gets the new wonder drug, the

populace gets sicker, the FDA reviews the drug and finds out it is

killing the populace, the drug is removed from the market. . . etc.,

etc, etc. And the game goes on.

We've been self treating for many things for years without professional

advice. A professional wanted me to take a neurotoxic drug for what

they said was an incurable vascular disease. I didn't listen and

eventually it went away on its own. I can't say I'm cured though, that

is illegal, since the disease was labeled incurable! My husband lost

one kidney to cancer at 24 years old, and was drug through tests and

garbage for years after for nothing, drinking radioactive potions and

such. We finally cut the doctors loose to play with someone else's

health. He's been fine since, no more continual problems being chased

around round rooms with no corners to hide in. It is amazing how

healthy he got when he stopped playing their games with all their

drinks, potions and exposure. My oldest daughter prayed herself out of

a diagnosis that said she would need glasses for life, and now has 20/20

vision with NO corrective steps taken by any " professional. " My mother

was crippled by MDs " professionals " that they are. They gave her one

drug after another until my father had to carry her into a chiropractor

who took her off all her drugs, got her straightened out. She is now

living alone, avoiding all MDs, not taking a single pharmaceutical drug

and working cleaning houses full-time at 68 years young. She hit her

crisis at 40.

I could go on for paragraph after paragraph about what the professional

will do to " help. " But, I hope you are getting the idea. Just because

modern society would have us believe that the education of an MD is

required to take 2 aspirin, doesn't mean it is so. Our family even has

the gall to do all this self-treating and alternative stuff without

having a health insurance policy! (we don't do health insurance, not

even gov't funded, on purpose and don't want to)

Enjoy the ride here, it will challenge what you've thought was normal.

I've only been a short timer on this board, but have learned enough for

a lifetime. I'm looking forward to learning much more, and continuing

to improve our health without the help of a professional. Personal

experience that is shared here is much more valuable to me. Then I use

my brain, my circumstances, that information and create a plan. It is

the way things were done 100s of years ago, with the older, wiser

generation sharing with the younger. The information here comes from

real life experience, not some pharmaceutical company control lab study

that is designed for a specific outcome, then taught in a sterile

classroom from a book with examples chosen specifically to prove the

necessary point. Where exactly does the danger lie?

P.

Marie Brewer wrote:

>

> How do you know what to use and how much without any professional

> advice, isnt that dangerous?

>

[Guest guest]

Try this page.

www.rvi.net/~fluoride/s25.htm

wishing you the best answers

elizabeth

>

> Wow. Thanks. CAn someone talk about flouride?? I've never heard of

any of this stuff I do think about the water/ pesticdes and feel

more compelled to think this is were the issue lies. I didnt really

think it was the vaccines but in a week of being on this list I can see

that perhaps my youngest son couldnt excrete the toxins in the shots

and that did something. Marie

[Guest guest]

>

> Wow. Thanks. CAn someone talk about flouride??

I have these links

http://www.slweb.org/

http://www.flouridealert.org/

http://www.nofluoride.com/

Dana

[Guest guest]

Wow. Thanks. CAn someone talk about flouride?? I've never heard of any of this

stuff I do think about the water/ pesticdes and feel more compelled to think

this is were the issue lies. I didnt really think it was the vaccines but in a

week of being on this list I can see that perhaps my youngest son couldnt

excrete the toxins in the shots and that did something. Marie

Re: [ ] Question about chelation?? - Marie

Marie,

Your question isn't all that odd, we run into it all the time at our

house - with family, friends, new acquaintances. I'll try to give you

my family's perspective so that maybe you can see a different side of

the health care paradigm.

As with most everything, in health care one will find there is another

spectrum - reality, and it often doesn't match up with the

" professional " opinion. I have found that reality is where this group

lives. Most realize that they are in the position they are because they

followed the advice of a professional - some of us blindly - until it

was too late. I hadn't even related my son's ills to his early

childhood and vaccinations until my husband and I sat down and thought

really hard. What we remembered was a social, chatty, VERY happy child

- until one point, then he cried at all meals (previously his favorite

time of the day), started being very quiet, and though happy, it was in

a different, more introverted way. Those tantrums, where he would throw

himself on the floor and crash his head trying to get my attention? We

realize now, they weren't " age related " and something we just had to go

through. Neither was the bedwetting that started up again after him

being fully night trained. We didn't have to go through that at all!

But, at the time, we didn't know, no professional told us the truth

about the dangers of immunizations, commercially grown foods, local

pesticide and other contamination in the water, the danger of fluoride

in our water and toothpaste, etc. There was so much we didn't know

about the harmful exposure in our world, so much of it being touted as

the healthy way to do things by our " professionals. "

We are now thankful that when our children were much younger we started

down an " alternative " health care road - which is actually more

traditional through history, only " alternative " to the young allopathic

method now touted as norm and the only true medicine. I hate to think

what may have become of my son had we continued with modern methods of

vaccination, commercially grown foods, unnatural environments, etc,

which are all touted as the way to do things. His body even kept us from

poisoning him more, as he was allergic to drugs MDs prescribed!!! PTL

Spend some time in the files section of the board, reading. Then check

out the many links and even read a lot of Andy's posts. Those are my

favorites because they are so informative. Don't trust the

" professionals " to give you sound advice, or really know. Our dentist

tried to convince me of the safety of fluoride by saying he takes it

himself and would drink it! But, he was very good about making note

there would be no fluoride for our children. It probably helped that we

started seeing him when the oldest were teens, and they had no cavities

with NO fluoride. I'm sure had he been their pediatric dentist, he would

have pushed harder. Many here will attest to the fact that the very MDs

who wanted to give their children vaccines, who said they were safe,

also didn't have a clue what was in them! There are those who are good,

but in general it has become a system of the blind following the blind.

The MDs are told by the pharm companies what the newest drug will do for

their patients, and of course given lots of free samples to hand out.

The FDA rushes to approve, the populace gets the new wonder drug, the

populace gets sicker, the FDA reviews the drug and finds out it is

killing the populace, the drug is removed from the market. . . etc.,

etc, etc. And the game goes on.

We've been self treating for many things for years without professional

advice. A professional wanted me to take a neurotoxic drug for what

they said was an incurable vascular disease. I didn't listen and

eventually it went away on its own. I can't say I'm cured though, that

is illegal, since the disease was labeled incurable! My husband lost

one kidney to cancer at 24 years old, and was drug through tests and

garbage for years after for nothing, drinking radioactive potions and

such. We finally cut the doctors loose to play with someone else's

health. He's been fine since, no more continual problems being chased

around round rooms with no corners to hide in. It is amazing how

healthy he got when he stopped playing their games with all their

drinks, potions and exposure. My oldest daughter prayed herself out of

a diagnosis that said she would need glasses for life, and now has 20/20

vision with NO corrective steps taken by any " professional. " My mother

was crippled by MDs " professionals " that they are. They gave her one

drug after another until my father had to carry her into a chiropractor

who took her off all her drugs, got her straightened out. She is now

living alone, avoiding all MDs, not taking a single pharmaceutical drug

and working cleaning houses full-time at 68 years young. She hit her

crisis at 40.

I could go on for paragraph after paragraph about what the professional

will do to " help. " But, I hope you are getting the idea. Just because

modern society would have us believe that the education of an MD is

required to take 2 aspirin, doesn't mean it is so. Our family even has

the gall to do all this self-treating and alternative stuff without

having a health insurance policy! (we don't do health insurance, not

even gov't funded, on purpose and don't want to)

Enjoy the ride here, it will challenge what you've thought was normal.

I've only been a short timer on this board, but have learned enough for

a lifetime. I'm looking forward to learning much more, and continuing

to improve our health without the help of a professional. Personal

experience that is shared here is much more valuable to me. Then I use

my brain, my circumstances, that information and create a plan. It is

the way things were done 100s of years ago, with the older, wiser

generation sharing with the younger. The information here comes from

real life experience, not some pharmaceutical company control lab study

that is designed for a specific outcome, then taught in a sterile

classroom from a book with examples chosen specifically to prove the

necessary point. Where exactly does the danger lie?

P.

Marie Brewer wrote:

>

> How do you know what to use and how much without any professional

> advice, isnt that dangerous?

>