Re: Question regarding hair analysis

[Guest guest]

Jodie,

I am sorry to hear of your dilema. It can be very confusing handling

all of this. Knowing what to look for takes time and some reading.

If he is has high hair aluminum, then that is a problem. It is just

that it can be from either that he is exposed to too much aluminum

or that he is holding onto mercury which is causing high aluminum

levels. But he is excreting it and toxic in it none the less.

If possible can you get a hair test from Doctors Data? You can order

this through DirectLabs.com yourself. This test could be checked to

see if he meets counting rules for mercury toxicity.

I am unsure why your school requires anything. Is this the law

there? Here they are not able to have access to our medical records

nor withold help for our child if we don't provide it. In fact, they

dont' even ask for it. They do a developmental eval and base

services on that, not on why he is that way, or what the underlying

cause it. I doubt they would have a clue anyway.

I am happy to hear that he is getting better. Be assured that the

treatment is the same regardless of what metals are high. You would

still follow chelation, whether the true reason was mercury, or

aluminum.

What lab does your chiropracter use? Some labs can be interpreted

using Andy's book. Like Genova for example.

Other comments interspersed below:

>

I always thought that when a metal showed up high on the hair test,

that must mean that my son was toxic in this particular area. ((This

is true, he is, he is just excreting a lot of it, but the level

should not be that high anyway))

Now I come to find out that if a metal shows up high then my son is

actually able to excrete that metal and that is why it is showing up

in a hair test.

((Yes, but it still should not be that high in a healthy person,

which means as much as he's excreting, it's likely there's a lot he

is not, and therefore he is considered toxic in that metal))

SOOOO......does that mean that all the other metals that were

practically non-existent on the hair test are NOT being excreted,

therefore bound in my poor boy's body??? ((No, either he is not

exposed to them at all, or in the case of mercury, he is holding

onto it. If his hair mercury was virtually non existent or very low,

he is holding it. Other metals would just not be there because he is

not exposed to them))

We have been fighting aluminum forever now because we thought that

was the problem since it was the only thing showing up

> high on the hair test. ((What is his hair mercury level? Is the

tin and silver or antimony slightly elevated along with the high

aluminum? This pattern can indicate mercury))

It would appear to me that we have been fighting the wrong fight!

((Not if you have been chelating and reducing exposure to metals))

Am I out in left field here?! Make no mistake, my son has made

tremendous progress as I have stated before, which puts me in a

quandary here. I should say that these hair analysis tests are not

DDI, they are from a specific lab in AZ that my chiropractor sends

all of his to. HELP!!!!

((you would still chelate on Andy's protocol regardless of these

tests just at some point adding in ALA to address mercury. ))

>

> thanks in advance,

> Jodie

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Jan,

The school didn't require this but thought it would be nice to have since we

did not have an official diagnosis of Autism when we started this 2 1/2 years

ago.

We got a water purifier for the whole house and cut out any and all aluminum

we could find in our diet and surroundings.

His mercury level was about .5 on this test (I don't know how this compares to

the DDI test). His cadmium or antimony was .3 (I can't remember which because I

don't have the test right in front of me as I am at work). His aluminum was

2.98 (previous tests was 2.97, then 3.01, now 2.98)

We did ALA but didn't see extreme changes.

The lab used is called ARL (Analytical Research Labs) I don't know if they

follow Andy.

I hope this answers your questions.

Thanks so much for your help!

Jodie

Jan <paxlforme@...> wrote:

Jodie,

I am sorry to hear of your dilema. It can be very confusing handling

all of this. Knowing what to look for takes time and some reading.

If he is has high hair aluminum, then that is a problem. It is just

that it can be from either that he is exposed to too much aluminum

or that he is holding onto mercury which is causing high aluminum

levels. But he is excreting it and toxic in it none the less.

If possible can you get a hair test from Doctors Data? You can order

this through DirectLabs.com yourself. This test could be checked to

see if he meets counting rules for mercury toxicity.

I am unsure why your school requires anything. Is this the law

there? Here they are not able to have access to our medical records

nor withold help for our child if we don't provide it. In fact, they

dont' even ask for it. They do a developmental eval and base

services on that, not on why he is that way, or what the underlying

cause it. I doubt they would have a clue anyway.

I am happy to hear that he is getting better. Be assured that the

treatment is the same regardless of what metals are high. You would

still follow chelation, whether the true reason was mercury, or

aluminum.

What lab does your chiropracter use? Some labs can be interpreted

using Andy's book. Like Genova for example.

Other comments interspersed below:

>

I always thought that when a metal showed up high on the hair test,

that must mean that my son was toxic in this particular area. ((This

is true, he is, he is just excreting a lot of it, but the level

should not be that high anyway))

Now I come to find out that if a metal shows up high then my son is

actually able to excrete that metal and that is why it is showing up

in a hair test.

((Yes, but it still should not be that high in a healthy person,

which means as much as he's excreting, it's likely there's a lot he

is not, and therefore he is considered toxic in that metal))

SOOOO......does that mean that all the other metals that were

practically non-existent on the hair test are NOT being excreted,

therefore bound in my poor boy's body??? ((No, either he is not

exposed to them at all, or in the case of mercury, he is holding

onto it. If his hair mercury was virtually non existent or very low,

he is holding it. Other metals would just not be there because he is

not exposed to them))

We have been fighting aluminum forever now because we thought that

was the problem since it was the only thing showing up

> high on the hair test. ((What is his hair mercury level? Is the

tin and silver or antimony slightly elevated along with the high

aluminum? This pattern can indicate mercury))

It would appear to me that we have been fighting the wrong fight!

((Not if you have been chelating and reducing exposure to metals))

Am I out in left field here?! Make no mistake, my son has made

tremendous progress as I have stated before, which puts me in a

quandary here. I should say that these hair analysis tests are not

DDI, they are from a specific lab in AZ that my chiropractor sends

all of his to. HELP!!!!

((you would still chelate on Andy's protocol regardless of these

tests just at some point adding in ALA to address mercury. ))

>

> thanks in advance,

> Jodie

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your

story.

> Play Sims Stories at Games.

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I always thought that when a metal showed up high on the hair test,

> that must mean that my son was toxic in this particular area.

Not necessarily. Only if mineral transport is normal and orderly. This is

discussed in my

book Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> Now I come to find out that if a metal shows up high then my son is

> actually able to excrete that metal and that is why it is showing up

> in a hair test.

No, this is not generally true either. If it is very high (red band on a

doctor's data test, for

example), it often is a problem. Depends somewhat on the element, too.

> SOOOO......does that mean that all the other metals that were

> practically non-existent on the hair test are NOT being excreted,

> therefore bound in my poor boy's body??? (

No, it means you need to learn more about the interpretation of hair tests.

>I should say that these hair analysis tests are not

> DDI, they are from a specific lab in AZ that my chiropractor sends

> all of his to.

Then they are almost certainly uninterpretable for heavy metal toxicity.

> HELP!!!!

Get a DDI " hair elements " test. It is going to be cheaper than the amount of

time and

effort you spend tormenting yourself trying to figure out what the other test

means.

If you want to scan it and put it in the files section or on the web and post a

link to it (and

tell me about that privately) I'll tell you if I can figure anything out from

it, but generally

due to not having enough elemnets, and not having child specific reference

ranges, these

tests are not really interpretagble as far as heavy metals go, especially in

children.

Of course, you could just try chelation. If he doesn't have any amalgam

(silverish looking

mercury) fillings in his teeth that is cheaper than another hair test.

Andy