Re: Anyone Tried Natural Cellular Defense (Activated Liquid Zeolite)?

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Has been discussed, look up old messages.

No spamming allowed on this group to my knowledge

na

>

> I'm new to the board. Has anyone tried Natural Cellular Defense to

> this point. I have worked with children in the spectrum along with

> thousands of others with hundreds of other issues using this

product

> and have seen phenomenal results using subjective and objective

> measurements?

>

> This product seems to be the most effective and safest method

> available to remove heavy metals especially mercury and other

POPs.

> It sadditional affects have also proven to be very beneficial for

> children in the spectrum.

>

> Has anyone here tried it yet and is there any reason/interest to

> provide additional information regarding this protocol?

>

> I'd be more than happy to provide lab results if needed.

>

> A little info can be found at www.detoxbiz.com and

> www.liquidzeolite.org

>

> I can be reached via phone at 206-419-8225

>

> Clayton

>

[Guest guest]

Clayton,

Most of us are well aware of this product. Some of us (including me)

have used this product for our kids. Nonetheless, I, and I suspect

many others, do not at all appreciate sales pitches on this board.

NCD distributors seem to be some of the worst in this regard.

For those of you who want more information about NCD, you might join

the ncd group at

AutismNCD/. There you will find

many parents who can talk intelligently about their experiences with

NCD for themselves and/or their children. And if you decide to buy

NCD, consider buying from a distributor-parent (of which I am NOT

one).

Anne

>

> I'm new to the board. Has anyone tried Natural Cellular Defense to

> this point. I have worked with children in the spectrum along with

> thousands of others with hundreds of other issues using this

product

> and have seen phenomenal results using subjective and objective

> measurements?

>

> This product seems to be the most effective and safest method

> available to remove heavy metals especially mercury and other

POPs.

> It sadditional affects have also proven to be very beneficial for

> children in the spectrum.

>

> Has anyone here tried it yet and is there any reason/interest to

> provide additional information regarding this protocol?

>

> I'd be more than happy to provide lab results if needed.

>

> A little info can be found at www.detoxbiz.com and

> www.liquidzeolite.org

>

> I can be reached via phone at 206-419-8225

>

> Clayton

>

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: cashious1107

This product seems to be the most effective and safest method

available to remove heavy metals especially mercury and other POPs.

<<<False, absolutely no proof that this product chelates anything and lots of

opinions from people who should know say that it does not chelate anything.

It sadditional affects have also proven to be very beneficial for

children in the spectrum.

<<<This is true per parent reports...stick to what's true.

It's also true....that if you cut off the head of a snake many more rise up to

take it's place.

Clayton

[Guest guest]

-Yo! ! couldn't have said it better myself.

-- In , " Cochran "

<Ladyshrink111@...> wrote:

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: cashious1107

>

>

> This product seems to be the most effective and safest method

> available to remove heavy metals especially mercury and other

POPs.

>

> <<<False, absolutely no proof that this product chelates

anything and lots of opinions from people who should know say that

it does not chelate anything.

>

>

> It sadditional affects have also proven to be very beneficial

for

> children in the spectrum.

>

> <<<This is true per parent reports...stick to what's true.

>

> It's also true....that if you cut off the head of a snake many

more rise up to take it's place.

>

>

>

>

> Clayton

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[Guest guest]

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Would you mind if I sent you baseline and challenge urine tests to

see what I have found thus far. Seeintg as urine is the primary

method to test excretion of metals you might find what I have found

interesting.

Send me a private email and I can send you some of the labs tests

that I have.

I'm not pitching anyhting I want to know what the group is doing.

And oh yes it does have great benefit for those with such issues.

Let me know if you want clinical proof.

Clayton

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: cashious1107

>

>

> This product seems to be the most effective and safest method

> available to remove heavy metals especially mercury and other

POPs.

>

> <<<False, absolutely no proof that this product chelates anything

and lots of opinions from people who should know say that it does not

chelate anything.

>

>

> It sadditional affects have also proven to be very beneficial for

> children in the spectrum.

>

> <<<This is true per parent reports...stick to what's true.

>

> It's also true....that if you cut off the head of a snake many

more rise up to take it's place.

>

>

>

>

> Clayton

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[Guest guest]

Clayton,

Anecdotal evidence is interesting but it is not proof. Your energy would be

better spent convincing your company to come forward with the research they have

promised and have not delivered.

This is a common ploy of companies to make an unfounded claim and then delay the

research which would back it up so that the MLM people can continue to claim the

product has properties that are unproven. But in the meantime children who would

be better served by known chelators are wasting precious time. Given the mark up

on NCD, financially I can understand this if I could forget about the false

hopes that are raised.

There are no properties in your product which suggests to anyone that it is a

chelator that could lead to the recovery of children.

Don't deny you sell the product and have financial interests in people believing

that this is a chelator. You don't have to convince me, I am noone. Send your

tests to Dr. Boyd Hayley and Andy Cutler who have said that this product is not

a chelator.

Until your company decides to release the studies it promised (and I'm not

holding my breath) please stick to the facts about the product, that it is

helpful to some kids and lessens their ASD symptoms. That's valuable and we are

grateful for any product that does that.

Also, please alert the rest of your MLM marketeers that this group does not

appreciate being constantly bombarded with bogus posts from salespeople.

[ ] Re: Anyone Tried Natural Cellular Defense (Activated

Liquid Zeolite)?

,

Would you mind if I sent you baseline and challenge urine tests to

see what I have found thus far. Seeintg as urine is the primary

method to test excretion of metals you might find what I have found

interesting.

Send me a private email and I can send you some of the labs tests

that I have.

I'm not pitching anyhting I want to know what the group is doing.

And oh yes it does have great benefit for those with such issues.

Let me know if you want clinical proof.

Clayton

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: cashious1107

>

>

> This product seems to be the most effective and safest method

> available to remove heavy metals especially mercury and other

POPs.

>

> <<<False, absolutely no proof that this product chelates anything

and lots of opinions from people who should know say that it does not

chelate anything.

>

>

> It sadditional affects have also proven to be very beneficial for

> children in the spectrum.

>

> <<<This is true per parent reports...stick to what's true.

>

> It's also true....that if you cut off the head of a snake many

more rise up to take it's place.

>

>

>

>

> Clayton

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[Guest guest]

Just a short addition here. We have been promised so much in the way

of research papers that I, as you , have grown weary and no

longer hold our breaths. I can easily show an increase in urinary

excretion of heavy metals using orange juice. If NCD were to show an

improvements above and beyond simple OJ, then do it.

This is a classically repeated ploy done in the MLM business as you

stated. I guess our motto here should be " Show me the studies, show

me the studies " .

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> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: cashious1107

> >

> >

> > This product seems to be the most effective and safest method

> > available to remove heavy metals especially mercury and other

> POPs.

> >

> > <<<False, absolutely no proof that this product chelates

anything

> and lots of opinions from people who should know say that it does

not

> chelate anything.

> >

> >

> > It sadditional affects have also proven to be very beneficial

for

> > children in the spectrum.

> >

> > <<<This is true per parent reports...stick to what's true.

> >

> > It's also true....that if you cut off the head of a snake many

> more rise up to take it's place.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Clayton

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[Guest guest]

Mark,

Is this increase enough that some brick wall mainstream doc may look

at it? How do you time it " Thanks,

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> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: cashious1107

> > >

> > >

> > > This product seems to be the most effective and safest

method

> > > available to remove heavy metals especially mercury and

other

> > POPs.

> > >

> > > <<<False, absolutely no proof that this product chelates

> anything

> > and lots of opinions from people who should know say that it

does

> not

> > chelate anything.

> > >

> > >

> > > It sadditional affects have also proven to be very

beneficial

> for

> > > children in the spectrum.

> > >

> > > <<<This is true per parent reports...stick to what's true.

> > >

> > > It's also true....that if you cut off the head of a snake

many

> > more rise up to take it's place.

> > >

> > >

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> > > Clayton

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