Re: Micci Digest Number 11291

[Guest guest]

Amen Micci,

What a diservice to the child whose parents are just accepting this.

I still flip out if I eat wheat/apple, get worse on dairy. But now I know why,

and which wnzyme or contributing factors.

I'm going down the genetic road w/Yasko camp, because alot of the fixes we all

know, ie. EFA's, taurine, I have trouble with,

cause of CBS/and certain SNP's.

My ADD is WAY better with chelating. I had 12 years of pysch meds, 13 years talk

therapy, but chelating TD DMPS @ 8 hours, is what improved alot including low

self-esteem.

I worry about those kids when they're older and parents aren't around. My mom is

helping me financially to do this. Need more money, but hope to get stronger and

better and make

more than the little I do now. It's a marathon.

Giving it all to God, and knowing He is leading me to these answers has been

invaluable.

Alison F.

4 years ago, I couldn't concentrate enough to post a question here. WAY better.

Love this list.

9b. Re: Gifted Digest Number 11274

Posted by: " Micci_Rog " micci_rog@... Micci_Rog

Date: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:58 am ((PDT))

Thanks Alison, for your encouraging post. My husband has ADD and

has an appointment set to remove his mercury fillings. Most people

do not realize my husband struggles with this because he is very

successful in his career. My mother descended into mental illness

in her 30's, and when she was on meds she was very autistic acting

in her behaviors- when she was off, she was completely in her own

world. They called this schizophrenia. I am not sure what put her

into that state. I know she is Rh-, so maybe rhogam. We also lived

in an area where there were alot of pesticides from crops and such.

I believe that area is having an autism explosion these days. If my

mom was still alive today, I would be bombarding her with biomed

info.

I was reading a blog last night (and I responded to it) where a

parent of an autistic boy wrote about why he accepts his son for who

he is..etc. Pretty much, anti-biomed. And he said his son is fine

the way he is, that those who do not just accept that their kids are

autistic for life are complainers..etc. I just can not wrap my mind

around this mindset. We did take a few years off from trying to

cure my dd, and it is mostly because we thought the game was over-

she was over age 5 (8 years old actually)- and figured she was one

of the " lifers " . I still never thought autism was a normal or a

neurodiverse condition. There is nothing normal or right about a

child being in ear peircing pain because her little sister is

hummming " twinkle twinkle " under her breath. There is nothing

normal about wanting to lie in the dark, crying for hours. There is

nothing normal about not being able to sit still and focus. There

is nothing normal about having muscles that won't grow and remain

weak. There is nothing normal about having to run sideways or

almost backwards because she is compelled to look out of the corner

of her eyes.

I no longer believe that autism is a developmental disability, akin

to Down's syndrome. I believe it is an toxin induced weakness that

occurs in genetically suseptible individuals.

>

> You guys are great!!!!

> > I am gifted, and was not understood, or was thought of as " crazy "

was the comment I always got. I got straight u's in 8th grade, and

chose to go to boarding school instead of going back a grade.

> I'm way better now that I'm chelating. And my little son, won't

have the tortured school experience I had. He is on his second round

of TD DMPS. Teacher noticed after first round an overall improvement.

> I excelled in art school, (Syracuse University, Parsons School of

Design, DIPA summer program in London/Decorative Arts/Museology) but

had to admit to Art History Prof at SU I wouldn't pass cause I

couldn't read the material.

> She said if you take an english class I'll pass you.

> > It was in 1995, after getting on ADD med. Wellbutrin, that I

finally retained my first one page magazine article. I remember

where I was to this day. I had wonder FOR YEARS, why I was retaining

anything. Wasn't dyslexic, etc.

> Now I read PhD. peer reviewed literature on bio-med for breakfast.

> > Chelating, removing amalgams, full set of vaccines '98, 4 Rogham,

etc. Off all pysh meds 2.5 years.

> > My body may give out soon, but I have recovered MUCH of my brain

function, and will TELL ALL somehow.

> > I'm glad my mother is alive to see this. This would be my adopted

mom. My biological mom died a few years ago, neglected, unable to

care for herself in many ways, and her sister ended up in a wheel

chair.

> I have met many siblings, and bio-relatives. I have figured out

our families issues, and have two sibs, my son, and two neices in

bio-chem recoverey.

> > Soooo..... ahh heemm.... adjusting my monacle.... your children

are in there, just continue to pry them out, and they too will be

reborn.

> > AND FOR THE BLEEPIN' RECORD imho AUTISM IS NOT A DEVELOPMENTAL

DISORDER, IT'S JUST THAT THAT'S WHEN MOST PEOPLE GET THEIR BIGGEST

LOAD OF MERCURY FROM THE VACCINES!!! There are adults that go on the

spectrum AFTER getting vaccinated.

> I was slowly poisoned, from my birth mom fillings, my fillings,

lot's of other stuff. But I went way down, way worse after

Rhogam/and vaccines.

> > And of course not having a protective BBB is why the babies get

hit so hard. But my point in love is

> adults suffer as well, and not many talk about them, or their

healing.

> > This is not meant to take away anything from anyone's children but

to illustrated, we come to this from many different roads, and

bottom line never give up on healing.

> > God is with US.

> > Alison F.

>

[Guest guest]

Alison,

I agree. My opinion is that if someone's brain is wired in a way

that makes it impossible or near impossible to function, then that

is not a difference in neuro function/ability, it is something gone

very wrong. This is the blog I visited last night.

http://bigwhitehat.com/?p=277 I believe my comments are going to be

removed, though the blog owner felt compelled to leave his answer to

me on the site. Oh well, that's life. I don't think that the

blogger is a bad parent or bad person, I just feel bad sometimes

that some children are given up on, in the sense of having a chance

at a normal life. I often think, if I was miserable with anxiety

and headaches, what kind of hell is my daughter trapped in. I also

know that after awhile, " hell " can seem normal if that is all a

person experiences.

BTW, this was my post to the blog:

Hi White Hat, I'm what you would call a " curbie " . I find it very

interesting how lines get drawn in the sand. 6 months ago, you would

not have called me a " curbie " . My daughter is 10. My husband and I

are both considered to be mildly on the spectrum. My dh, ADHD and me

mild dylexia and anxiety issues- among other things. I don't find

anything extraordinary or marvelous about dyslexia, anxiety,

hyperactivity and inabilty to focus. Neither does my husband. My

husband happens to be quite successful, but he longs to not always

fight his ADHD issues. My dd has all that I just mentioned that my

husband and I have and more. Yes, she is amazing, intelligent,

creative, unique. I accept her for who she is and where she is at in

life, but I am not going to leave her in a pit of hyperactivity,

inability to focus, physical pain in the presence of normal

sounds..etc. My dd is not going to be 10 forever. One day she will

be an adult, and one day my husband and I will no longer be living.

I have worked in group homes for developmentally disabled adults and

I have worked in nursing homes. I would never want to relegate

anyone to a life of being at the mercy of low paid and overworked

staff- many of whom do not give a crap. I am going to do everything

I can to pull my daughter out of this so called " autism " . Through

diet modification I have overcome anxiety and chronic headaches.

Through diet modifications, my daughter no longer spends her

afternoons screaming and crying constantly. She still has a ways to

go, but one thought drives me on, it is this, " perhaps my daughter

would like to feel better then she does now. " If she gets to a point

where she is no longer " autistic " and she liked being autistic

better, then she is welcome to figure out a way to replace her toxic

load, go off the diet, whatever and go back to being autistic. At

least she gets a choice. In fact, she did get a choice. Before we

started the diet, I sat down with her and I explained that we were

going to try it so she could do better in school. It is her that

will ask now if something hs milk or wheat in it. She LIKES feeling

better. She is making the choice on her own, amazing isn't it. You

know what my biggest fear was (besides my dd living life at the

mercy of strangers) is that she will read some of the recovery

stories of ASD children and wonder why I did not do the same for

her. Acceptance is just a candy coated version of " do nothing " , I

won't be that person anymore- I can't be that person anymore, I love

my daughter too much.

>

> Amen Micci,

>

> What a diservice to the child whose parents are just accepting

this.

>

> I still flip out if I eat wheat/apple, get worse on dairy. But now

I know why, and which wnzyme or contributing factors.

>

> I'm going down the genetic road w/Yasko camp, because alot of the

fixes we all know, ie. EFA's, taurine, I have trouble with,

> cause of CBS/and certain SNP's.

>

> My ADD is WAY better with chelating. I had 12 years of pysch meds,

13 years talk therapy, but chelating TD DMPS @ 8 hours, is what

improved alot including low self-esteem.

> I worry about those kids when they're older and parents aren't

around. My mom is helping me financially to do this. Need more

money, but hope to get stronger and better and make

> more than the little I do now. It's a marathon.

>

> Giving it all to God, and knowing He is leading me to these

answers has been invaluable.

>

> Alison F.

>

> 4 years ago, I couldn't concentrate enough to post a question

here. WAY better.

>

> Love this list.

>

[Guest guest]

-YOU GO GIRL!

That post was awesome. I truly have a hard time watching other

parents who just accept that their child is " whatever label " and do

nothing either. I think modern medicine makes them feel that they

have no power and don't know what is best for their own child. I too

would fight to the death to help my child. As an adult with mercury

poisoning..there is NO WAY I would want anyone to feel like I have.

To go through that constant emotional torment that mercury does to

your mind. Not to mention the physical ails. It makes you

antisocial, and not fit in. I always felt like an outsider, like I

did not belong, and it was very lonely. Very painful, I had lots of

emotional problems for years. It wasn't until I had my fillings all

removed that this terrible feelings of isolation and being different

finally left me. Not to mention the terrible feelings no one talks

about...like crying all the time or having the sudden urge to hurl

yourself down the stairs and die. For no reason, thoughts just pop

in your head. It's no way to live. And to sit by and watch it happen

to my kids...NEVER. Even at first when I didn't know what was wrong

with them, or me. Or why they had the problems..I still had the

drive to find out, no matter what doctors were telling me. I was

driven, and spend countless hours searching the web under every term

I could think of. " developmental issues, mercury, fillings, add,

delays etc.... " Until I came across mercury and science proving it

caused these problems..and that was the tree I barked up. I ended up

on this group because I had done some questionaires that said my son

fit the profile for PDD. When I got here and started

reading...OMG...and then I posted about my son and his

behaviors...and from there...here we are! A hair test and some

chelation we are doing well. But I could not lay back and accept

that my son had damage that I caused by my fillings and vaccinating

him. It was my fault! It would be inexcusable to sit back and leave

him to live that way without first exploring every possible

treatment that might help him. This led to helping myself and my

mercury toxic other child. And now my other mission of helping

others in our situation! NEVER say Die is my motto! In other

words..never say uncle! Never EVER give up on your own child! That

is a sin...I feel terrible for all the kids who are stuck in that

mess because there parents do not have the knowledge, or courage or

whatever it is that drives us here to do what we do to help our

kids. It's a shame.

I have a child born with a genetic neuromuscular disorder, of which

there is no treatment. And ya know what. I didn't lay down on that

one either. Even though I was told..not much can be done. Well, hell

and damnation! I did tons of research and found that diet and

certain minerals can indeed help make life easier. There is always

something that can help in some way. So my hats off to all of you

here who are in the trenches fighting the good fight everyday in the

name of your children!

God is with Us!

-- In , " Micci_Rog " <micci_rog@...>

wrote:

>

> Alison,

>

> I agree. My opinion is that if someone's brain is wired in a way

> that makes it impossible or near impossible to function, then that

> is not a difference in neuro function/ability, it is something

gone

> very wrong. This is the blog I visited last night.

> http://bigwhitehat.com/?p=277 I believe my comments are going to

be

> removed, though the blog owner felt compelled to leave his answer

to

> me on the site. Oh well, that's life. I don't think that the

> blogger is a bad parent or bad person, I just feel bad sometimes

> that some children are given up on, in the sense of having a

chance

> at a normal life. I often think, if I was miserable with anxiety

> and headaches, what kind of hell is my daughter trapped in. I

also

> know that after awhile, " hell " can seem normal if that is all a

> person experiences.

>

> BTW, this was my post to the blog:

>

> Hi White Hat, I'm what you would call a " curbie " . I find it very

> interesting how lines get drawn in the sand. 6 months ago, you

would

> not have called me a " curbie " . My daughter is 10. My husband and I

> are both considered to be mildly on the spectrum. My dh, ADHD and

me

> mild dylexia and anxiety issues- among other things. I don't find

> anything extraordinary or marvelous about dyslexia, anxiety,

> hyperactivity and inabilty to focus. Neither does my husband. My

> husband happens to be quite successful, but he longs to not always

> fight his ADHD issues. My dd has all that I just mentioned that my

> husband and I have and more. Yes, she is amazing, intelligent,

> creative, unique. I accept her for who she is and where she is at

in

> life, but I am not going to leave her in a pit of hyperactivity,

> inability to focus, physical pain in the presence of normal

> sounds..etc. My dd is not going to be 10 forever. One day she will

> be an adult, and one day my husband and I will no longer be

living.

> I have worked in group homes for developmentally disabled adults

and

> I have worked in nursing homes. I would never want to relegate

> anyone to a life of being at the mercy of low paid and overworked

> staff- many of whom do not give a crap. I am going to do

everything

> I can to pull my daughter out of this so called " autism " . Through

> diet modification I have overcome anxiety and chronic headaches.

> Through diet modifications, my daughter no longer spends her

> afternoons screaming and crying constantly. She still has a ways

to

> go, but one thought drives me on, it is this, " perhaps my daughter

> would like to feel better then she does now. " If she gets to a

point

> where she is no longer " autistic " and she liked being autistic

> better, then she is welcome to figure out a way to replace her

toxic

> load, go off the diet, whatever and go back to being autistic. At

> least she gets a choice. In fact, she did get a choice. Before we

> started the diet, I sat down with her and I explained that we were

> going to try it so she could do better in school. It is her that

> will ask now if something hs milk or wheat in it. She LIKES

feeling

> better. She is making the choice on her own, amazing isn't it. You

> know what my biggest fear was (besides my dd living life at the

> mercy of strangers) is that she will read some of the recovery

> stories of ASD children and wonder why I did not do the same for

> her. Acceptance is just a candy coated version of " do nothing " , I

> won't be that person anymore- I can't be that person anymore, I

love

> my daughter too much.

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Amen Micci,

> >

> > What a diservice to the child whose parents are just accepting

> this.

> >

> > I still flip out if I eat wheat/apple, get worse on dairy. But

now

> I know why, and which wnzyme or contributing factors.

> >

> > I'm going down the genetic road w/Yasko camp, because alot of

the

> fixes we all know, ie. EFA's, taurine, I have trouble with,

> > cause of CBS/and certain SNP's.

> >

> > My ADD is WAY better with chelating. I had 12 years of pysch

meds,

> 13 years talk therapy, but chelating TD DMPS @ 8 hours, is what

> improved alot including low self-esteem.

> > I worry about those kids when they're older and parents aren't

> around. My mom is helping me financially to do this. Need more

> money, but hope to get stronger and better and make

> > more than the little I do now. It's a marathon.

> >

> > Giving it all to God, and knowing He is leading me to these

> answers has been invaluable.

> >

> > Alison F.

> >

> > 4 years ago, I couldn't concentrate enough to post a question

> here. WAY better.

> >

> > Love this list.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jan! My comments on the blog was removed. I think the blog

owner is only in favor of neurodiversity/no-cure just acceptance

comments being posted. I've been very frustrated with alot of the

prominent neurodiversity blogs out there recently. It seems like

all they can think about is slamming bio-med. I probably wouldn't

notice them, except when I do google searches on " biomed and autism "

those keep popping up first. I just really don't undestand why ASD

adults wouldn't want improvment or cure. It seems like the HFA ASD

adult community are similar to the deaf and little people

communities, in that they frown on people who try to improve or

erradicate their conditions- and only applaud living with or living

around said conditions. I don't know anyone who has asthma, ADHD,

MS, cerebral palsy, diabetes, schizophrenia..ect, who wouldn't

embrace a cure for their condition. I can't see why autism is any

different. If my dd had cancer- which often a product of

environment interacting with genetic weakness- nobody would question

me for hooking her up to an IV filled with poison (chemotherapy) to

save her life and putting her on a restrictive diet to bring her

body to halth. But if I try to do the same for my daughter with

toxin induced nerological and physical issues, I am evil

for " subjecting " my dd to an IV and sticking her on a diet..etc.

*grumble*

>

> -YOU GO GIRL!

> That post was awesome. I truly have a hard time watching other

> parents who just accept that their child is " whatever label " and

do

> nothing either. I think modern medicine makes them feel that they

> have no power and don't know what is best for their own child. I

too

> would fight to the death to help my child. As an adult with

mercury

> poisoning..there is NO WAY I would want anyone to feel like I

have.

> To go through that constant emotional torment that mercury does to

> your mind. Not to mention the physical ails. It makes you

> antisocial, and not fit in. I always felt like an outsider, like I

> did not belong, and it was very lonely. Very painful, I had lots

of

> emotional problems for years. It wasn't until I had my fillings

all

> removed that this terrible feelings of isolation and being

different

> finally left me. Not to mention the terrible feelings no one talks

> about...like crying all the time or having the sudden urge to hurl

> yourself down the stairs and die. For no reason, thoughts just pop

> in your head. It's no way to live. And to sit by and watch it

happen

> to my kids...NEVER. Even at first when I didn't know what was

wrong

> with them, or me. Or why they had the problems..I still had the

> drive to find out, no matter what doctors were telling me. I was

> driven, and spend countless hours searching the web under every

term

> I could think of. " developmental issues, mercury, fillings, add,

> delays etc.... " Until I came across mercury and science proving

it

> caused these problems..and that was the tree I barked up. I ended

up

> on this group because I had done some questionaires that said my

son

> fit the profile for PDD. When I got here and started

> reading...OMG...and then I posted about my son and his

> behaviors...and from there...here we are! A hair test and some

> chelation we are doing well. But I could not lay back and accept

> that my son had damage that I caused by my fillings and

vaccinating

> him. It was my fault! It would be inexcusable to sit back and

leave

> him to live that way without first exploring every possible

> treatment that might help him. This led to helping myself and my

> mercury toxic other child. And now my other mission of helping

> others in our situation! NEVER say Die is my motto! In other

> words..never say uncle! Never EVER give up on your own child! That

> is a sin...I feel terrible for all the kids who are stuck in that

> mess because there parents do not have the knowledge, or courage

or

> whatever it is that drives us here to do what we do to help our

> kids. It's a shame.

> I have a child born with a genetic neuromuscular disorder, of

which

> there is no treatment. And ya know what. I didn't lay down on that

> one either. Even though I was told..not much can be done. Well,

hell

> and damnation! I did tons of research and found that diet and

> certain minerals can indeed help make life easier. There is always

> something that can help in some way. So my hats off to all of you

> here who are in the trenches fighting the good fight everyday in

the

> name of your children!

> God is with Us!