Re: Gifted Digest Number 11274

[Guest guest]

You guys are great!!!!

I am gifted, and was not understood, or was thought of as " crazy " was the

comment I always got. I got straight u's in 8th grade, and chose to go to

boarding school instead of going back a grade.

I'm way better now that I'm chelating. And my little son, won't have the

tortured school experience I had. He is on his second round of TD DMPS. Teacher

noticed after first round an overall improvement.

I excelled in art school, (Syracuse University, Parsons School of Design, DIPA

summer program in London/Decorative Arts/Museology) but had to admit to Art

History Prof at SU I wouldn't pass cause I couldn't read the material.

She said if you take an english class I'll pass you.

It was in 1995, after getting on ADD med. Wellbutrin, that I finally retained my

first one page magazine article. I remember where I was to this day. I had

wonder FOR YEARS, why I was retaining anything. Wasn't dyslexic, etc.

Now I read PhD. peer reviewed literature on bio-med for breakfast.

Chelating, removing amalgams, full set of vaccines '98, 4 Rogham, etc. Off all

pysh meds 2.5 years.

My body may give out soon, but I have recovered MUCH of my brain function, and

will TELL ALL somehow.

I'm glad my mother is alive to see this. This would be my adopted mom. My

biological mom died a few years ago, neglected, unable to care for herself in

many ways, and her sister ended up in a wheel chair.

I have met many siblings, and bio-relatives. I have figured out our families

issues, and have two sibs, my son, and two neices in bio-chem recoverey.

Soooo..... ahh heemm.... adjusting my monacle.... your children are in there,

just continue to pry them out, and they too will be reborn.

AND FOR THE BLEEPIN' RECORD imho AUTISM IS NOT A DEVELOPMENTAL DISORDER, IT'S

JUST THAT THAT'S WHEN MOST PEOPLE GET THEIR BIGGEST LOAD OF MERCURY FROM THE

VACCINES!!! There are adults that go on the spectrum AFTER getting vaccinated.

I was slowly poisoned, from my birth mom fillings, my fillings, lot's of other

stuff. But I went way down, way worse after Rhogam/and vaccines.

And of course not having a protective BBB is why the babies get hit so hard. But

my point in love is

adults suffer as well, and not many talk about them, or their healing.

This is not meant to take away anything from anyone's children but to

illustrated, we come to this from many different roads, and bottom line never

give up on healing.

God is with US.

Alison F.

Don't beat me up anyone, it's just my humble opinion. And we are all in

agreement here I'm sure.

If anyone is interested I can post two pieces of my art. One 25 years ago, a

lithograph which illustrates the kind of bondage mercury placed me in. And then

2 years ago I did three murals in a women's home, nature, very beautiful.

I never thought I'd come back. It is like waking up from the near dead, and

getting my zillonith chance from God.

I also last year got some beer labels I designed in a national design

publication. 11k applied 1k got in.

This is hope. I read Job, bible when my life was darker than anyone's should be,

and it was true. I've gotten many things back in double or more.

Unbelieveable.

This list is the bomb.com : )

13.1. Re: hyperlexia and biomedical treatment- a,

Posted by: " anacat_11 " anacat_11@... anacat_11

Date: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:43 pm ((PDT))

Agree, agree, agree some more with all the points made. You guys are

great. It's a worthwhile discussion.

Adjusting my monocle here, clearing my throat in a self-important

way as I usher forth my grand theories of giftedness...

Remember the Larsen cartoon showing a chubby bespeckled kid

pulling on a door with a sign on it saying " Push " ? The larger sign

above the door says, " School For the Gifted " . I love it.

IQ tests themselves are biased to affluent white (or dominant

paradigm) males, certainly. Marilyn Voss-Savant being one of many

exceptions, I think, but the bias appears to be especially cultural.

And it's true that there are thousands of types of intelligence, not

just the two that are mostly measured. Gifts in writing, critical

thinking and the emotional intelligence necessary for all the arts

(and for truly earth-shaking physics, if you think about Einstein)

go under the radar for the most part. I totally agree that there's

so much that can't be tested.

I've seen a few sides of the issue- people who suffered or made

others suffer because of their " gifted " label and people who were

basically saved by finding out why they never fit in. A woman I knew

had been a Philharmonic child soloist who dropped out of music

altogether to save her sanity. Music had been ruined for her. Her

parents had protegeed her to the point that it almost ressembled a

form of molestation: they forced a child to perform to gratify adult

needs in direct conflict with the child's needs. Her former

Juilliard classmates used to greet her by saying " How's the great

has-been? " . They'd all been mommy and daddy's special geniuses and

I

knew the time. Like crabby, over-groomed show dogs with the

emotional intelligence of gnats. She had more sense than they did

which was why the loss of her music to the world was a real loss.

She never lost her emotional intelligence and suffered all the more

for it. Funny that her external personality was exactly like Marilyn

Monroe's- the world's most famous " crazy hypersensitive dumb blond " .

Brings up the issue of " what's crazy? " as well.

What she went through is not what I think of when I imagine

providing all children with appropriate environment and education-

it's just a mockery of catering to needs. I think the movie " Little

Man Tate " shows the opposing problems facing " gifted " children

(geeks, nerds, eggheads): protegeeing vs. ignoring the child's needs

and trying to force them to be " normal " , which could literally kill

some children. In the film, a kind of happy medium is reached.

Then I was in a philosophy class in college with an army specialist

from a small farming town. He'd taken the army IQ test and found out

why he'd never fit in, why he grew up without friends, why no one

thought his jokes were funny, why he daydreamed throughout

highschool. He was " 99th percentile " . He changed his view of

himself, was the first of his family to enroll in college, went on

to get an MA in something, I don't remember what. Did he end up

happy? Did he end up with more friends? I don't know, but at least

he had a chance which he hadn't formerly had. Was it the placebo

effect or at last a consensus on what he'd always felt was different

about himself? Dunno. One could say the healing effect of every kind

of consensus is just the placebo effect and all our intuitions about

our fittingness or nonfittingness in the world and our perceptions

about how we're treated are " all in our heads " .

I do believe that gifted kids are often discriminated against in

ways that puts many in a similarly misunderstood, marginalized and

victimized demographic along with mercury-poisoned children.

Particularly the empathic, emotionally intelligent and rebellious

types who have the potential to most benefit the (ailing) world. A

theorist wrote a book on the subject, on his " Fittingness " theory,

which got a bit of coverage a few years ago and then fell completely

off the radar itself. I can't find any reference to it at all

anymore and I'm begining to think I imagined it.

It's especially bad for gifted females, half of whom fall off the

radar by seventh grade (maybe in part because they don't take the

pinball IQ tests as well) and underachieve to avoid the negative

social stigma against the more extreme traits which go along with

giftedness which are less " acceptable " in women (talking about

things that don't interest others, talking too much, not enough,

being passionate, being withdrawn, etc..) At least those were the

conclusions of one study. I forget the name of the researchers- I

don't agree with all their premises.

And take Dr. Lloyd Ross' chart showing that all the supposed markers

for " ADHD " put out by the psychopharmaceutical complexes' crackpot

science spin correspond to traits of giftedness accross the board.

They're drugging the crap out of all kids rather than developing

tailored programs for each individual child or looking into real

causes for behavior. And it's a problem of all children but maybe

especially horrific for the most ill-fitting and most vulnerable.

I've worn myself out and probably everyone else. Going to go watch

something stupid from Netflix now!

> >

> > The site I read just said " reading " with no description.

Here's one

> > site with some info:

> > > > http://www.educationaloptions.com/levels_giftedness.htm

> > That info is very non-specific. Reading includes, in order of

> sophistication, reading words, sentences and combined sentences

(a

> story, etc). Saying " reading " means close to nothing. Plus, when

kids

> start reading (and talking), it's mostly mimicking operations,

since

> mimicking is a primordial aspect of learning.

> So, in reference to the website you linked above, let me rant a

> little: I don't know how controversial my opinion might be here,

but I

[Guest guest]

Thanks Alison, for your encouraging post. My husband has ADD and

has an appointment set to remove his mercury fillings. Most people

do not realize my husband struggles with this because he is very

successful in his career. My mother descended into mental illness

in her 30's, and when she was on meds she was very autistic acting

in her behaviors- when she was off, she was completely in her own

world. They called this schizophrenia. I am not sure what put her

into that state. I know she is Rh-, so maybe rhogam. We also lived

in an area where there were alot of pesticides from crops and such.

I believe that area is having an autism explosion these days. If my

mom was still alive today, I would be bombarding her with biomed

info.

I was reading a blog last night (and I responded to it) where a

parent of an autistic boy wrote about why he accepts his son for who

he is..etc. Pretty much, anti-biomed. And he said his son is fine

the way he is, that those who do not just accept that their kids are

autistic for life are complainers..etc. I just can not wrap my mind

around this mindset. We did take a few years off from trying to

cure my dd, and it is mostly because we thought the game was over-

she was over age 5 (8 years old actually)- and figured she was one

of the " lifers " . I still never thought autism was a normal or a

neurodiverse condition. There is nothing normal or right about a

child being in ear peircing pain because her little sister is

hummming " twinkle twinkle " under her breath. There is nothing

normal about wanting to lie in the dark, crying for hours. There is

nothing normal about not being able to sit still and focus. There

is nothing normal about having muscles that won't grow and remain

weak. There is nothing normal about having to run sideways or

almost backwards because she is compelled to look out of the corner

of her eyes.

I no longer believe that autism is a developmental disability, akin

to Down's syndrome. I believe it is an toxin induced weakness that

occurs in genetically suseptible individuals.

>

> You guys are great!!!!

>

> I am gifted, and was not understood, or was thought of as " crazy "

was the comment I always got. I got straight u's in 8th grade, and

chose to go to boarding school instead of going back a grade.

> I'm way better now that I'm chelating. And my little son, won't

have the tortured school experience I had. He is on his second round

of TD DMPS. Teacher noticed after first round an overall improvement.

> I excelled in art school, (Syracuse University, Parsons School of

Design, DIPA summer program in London/Decorative Arts/Museology) but

had to admit to Art History Prof at SU I wouldn't pass cause I

couldn't read the material.

> She said if you take an english class I'll pass you.

>

> It was in 1995, after getting on ADD med. Wellbutrin, that I

finally retained my first one page magazine article. I remember

where I was to this day. I had wonder FOR YEARS, why I was retaining

anything. Wasn't dyslexic, etc.

> Now I read PhD. peer reviewed literature on bio-med for breakfast.

>

> Chelating, removing amalgams, full set of vaccines '98, 4 Rogham,

etc. Off all pysh meds 2.5 years.

>

> My body may give out soon, but I have recovered MUCH of my brain

function, and will TELL ALL somehow.

>

> I'm glad my mother is alive to see this. This would be my adopted

mom. My biological mom died a few years ago, neglected, unable to

care for herself in many ways, and her sister ended up in a wheel

chair.

> I have met many siblings, and bio-relatives. I have figured out

our families issues, and have two sibs, my son, and two neices in

bio-chem recoverey.

>

> Soooo..... ahh heemm.... adjusting my monacle.... your children

are in there, just continue to pry them out, and they too will be

reborn.

>

> AND FOR THE BLEEPIN' RECORD imho AUTISM IS NOT A DEVELOPMENTAL

DISORDER, IT'S JUST THAT THAT'S WHEN MOST PEOPLE GET THEIR BIGGEST

LOAD OF MERCURY FROM THE VACCINES!!! There are adults that go on the

spectrum AFTER getting vaccinated.

> I was slowly poisoned, from my birth mom fillings, my fillings,

lot's of other stuff. But I went way down, way worse after

Rhogam/and vaccines.

>

> And of course not having a protective BBB is why the babies get

hit so hard. But my point in love is

> adults suffer as well, and not many talk about them, or their

healing.

>

> This is not meant to take away anything from anyone's children but

to illustrated, we come to this from many different roads, and

bottom line never give up on healing.

>

> God is with US.

>

> Alison F.

>