RE: Wanting to start chelation for son now, Need lots of help! (ANDY maybe)

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> HI Everyone!

> My son started chelation on Andy's protocol for " ONE " weekend. We

> were using the TD-DMPS every 8 hrs Friday PM thru Monday AM. By

> Sunday nights, 15-20 minutes after his drops,he was SCREAMING AT THE

> TOP OF HIS LUNGS FOR OVER AN HOUR & crying constantly, & beating

> himelf in the head & running back & forth NON-STOP.

The first thing I would consider is possible yeast overgrowth.

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

>>So I was thinking of just giving him the ALA.

I chelated all four of my kids with ALA only.

> He is having really bad yeast symptoms right now as well. His little

> bottom has been broken out terribly for a week straight, & he stimms

> are at an all time high, hands & visiually & vocally. What should I

> start him on for yeast protocol???

Ideas in link above.

> If I give him ALA, his copper was in the yellow/high on his DDI hair

> test, what should I do so he wont get copper toxic?

Zinc and molybdenum

>> What do I need to

> make sure to supplement him with while chelating?

Depends on many things. There is a supplement file here, with

information and recommendations.

>> I think the zinc is

> supposed to be on off days only, is this right?

No, every day.

Dana

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You didn't mention what the dose was and what extra ingredients are in

the TD DMPS.

The dose is likely too high and probably the formulation contained

glutathione - one or the other or the combination.

There are many advantages to using oral chelators. One is that the

appropriate dose is easier to determine and keep constant.

TD chelators are not a part of Andy's protocol. His protocol is for

oral chelators.

I suggest finding oral DMPS, DMSA, or ALA and try again dosing at the

appropriate interval with 1/8 mg per pound or less. The more

toxic/sensitive the individual the LOWER the dose should be to start.

For supplements see the excellent supplement file in the files section

here, thanks to Anita.

J

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> HI Everyone!

> My son started chelation on Andy's protocol for " ONE " weekend. We

> were using the TD-DMPS every 8 hrs Friday PM thru Monday AM. By

> Sunday nights, 15-20 minutes after his drops,he was SCREAMING AT THE

> TOP OF HIS LUNGS FOR OVER AN HOUR & crying constantly, & beating

> himelf in the head & running back & forth NON-STOP. I stopped it

> then. My son is 5 & completely NON-VERBAL, he can't tell me what was

> wrong, but he was definetly telling us that something was definetly

> wrong. I hear/read a lot about these kids having sulfur problems? I

> am thinking it may be that, but just can't afford a YASKO test right

> now. So I was thinking of just giving him the ALA. Upon reading

> today, most recommend giving DMSA first then the ALA. BTW, my son is

> mercury, aluminum, alimony, arsenic, lead & Tin toxic as well. I just

> know that I need to get these stuff out of him.

> So can anyone please help me with where to start with him right now.

> He is having really bad yeast symptoms right now as well. His little

> bottom has been broken out terribly for a week straight, & he stimms

> are at an all time high, hands & visiually & vocally. What should I

> start him on for yeast protocol???

> If I give him ALA, his copper was in the yellow/high on his DDI hair

> test, what should I do so he wont get copper toxic? What do I need to

> make sure to supplement him with while chelating? I think the zinc is

> supposed to be on off days only, is this right?

> Does anyone have an Idea or opinion on that episode with the TD-DMPS?

> Is that a normal thing while starting chelation & that early on? I

> even cut back for that last dose, because he started these symptoms

> on the earlier one, but no where near that bad.

> I just want to help him & not harm him further, he only eats like 4

> items, period & he is on a gf/cf/sf & BEEF free diet.

> I am just so nerveous, that I am not helping him at all...I need to

> get this started NOW... yeast, chelation & supplements he will need.

> Thanks for ANY help I can get!!!

> Michele

>

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The td-dmps probably has glutathione or something your son doesn't tolerate in

it. I presume your son has NO mercury amalgam dental fillings. Which four

foods does your kid eat? Consider switching to oral DMSA.

S S

HI Everyone!

My son started chelation on Andy's protocol for " ONE " weekend. We

were using the TD-DMPS every 8 hrs Friday PM thru Monday AM. By

Sunday nights, 15-20 minutes after his drops,he was SCREAMING AT THE

TOP OF HIS LUNGS FOR OVER AN HOUR & crying constantly, & beating

himelf in the head & running back & forth NON-STOP. I stopped it

then. My son is 5 & completely NON-VERBAL, he can't tell me what was

wrong, but he was definetly telling us that something was definetly

wrong. I hear/read a lot about these kids having sulfur problems? I

am thinking it may be that, but just can't afford a YASKO test right

now. So I was thinking of just giving him the ALA. Upon reading

today, most recommend giving DMSA first then the ALA. BTW, my son is

mercury, aluminum, alimony, arsenic, lead & Tin toxic as well. I just

know that I need to get these stuff out of him.

So can anyone please help me with where to start with him right now.

He is having really bad yeast symptoms right now as well. His little

bottom has been broken out terribly for a week straight, & he stimms

are at an all time high, hands & visiually & vocally. What should I

start him on for yeast protocol???

If I give him ALA, his copper was in the yellow/high on his DDI hair

test, what should I do so he wont get copper toxic? What do I need to

make sure to supplement him with while chelating? I think the zinc is

supposed to be on off days only, is this right?

Does anyone have an Idea or opinion on that episode with the TD-DMPS?

Is that a normal thing while starting chelation & that early on? I

even cut back for that last dose, because he started these symptoms

on the earlier one, but no where near that bad.

I just want to help him & not harm him further, he only eats like 4

items, period & he is on a gf/cf/sf & BEEF free diet.

I am just so nerveous, that I am not helping him at all...I need to

get this started NOW... yeast, chelation & supplements he will need.

Thanks for ANY help I can get!!!

Michele

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>

> HI Everyone!

> My son started chelation on Andy's protocol for " ONE " weekend. We

> were using the TD-DMPS every 8 hrs Friday PM thru Monday AM. By

> Sunday nights, 15-20 minutes after his drops,he was SCREAMING AT

THE

> TOP OF HIS LUNGS FOR OVER AN HOUR & crying constantly, & beating

> himelf in the head & running back & forth NON-STOP. I stopped it

> then. My son is 5 & completely NON-VERBAL, he can't tell me what

was

> wrong, but he was definetly telling us that something was definetly

> wrong. I hear/read a lot about these kids having sulfur problems? I

> am thinking it may be that, but just can't afford a YASKO test

right

> now. So I was thinking of just giving him the ALA. Upon reading

> today, most recommend giving DMSA first then the ALA. BTW, my son

is

> mercury, aluminum, alimony, arsenic, lead & Tin toxic as well. I

just

> know that I need to get these stuff out of him.

> So can anyone please help me with where to start with him right

now.

> He is having really bad yeast symptoms right now as well. His

little

> bottom has been broken out terribly for a week straight, & he

stimms

> are at an all time high, hands & visiually & vocally. What should I

> start him on for yeast protocol???

> If I give him ALA, his copper was in the yellow/high on his DDI

hair

> test, what should I do so he wont get copper toxic? What do I need

to

> make sure to supplement him with while chelating? I think the zinc

is

> supposed to be on off days only, is this right?

> Does anyone have an Idea or opinion on that episode with the TD-

DMPS?

> Is that a normal thing while starting chelation & that early on? I

> even cut back for that last dose, because he started these symptoms

> on the earlier one, but no where near that bad.

> I just want to help him & not harm him further, he only eats like 4

> items, period & he is on a gf/cf/sf & BEEF free diet.

> I am just so nerveous, that I am not helping him at all...I need to

> get this started NOW... yeast, chelation & supplements he will need.

> Thanks for ANY help I can get!!!

> Michele

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Andy tells people to never use glutathione. If it were me I'd drop the DAN! and

chelate without a doc or find one who understands Andy's protocol and will

follow it. Is there a reason you're using dmps rather than oral dmsa or ala

which are available without a prescription.

S S

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HI!

YES, HIS TD-DMPS IS PRESCRIBED WITH GLUTATHION.

HIS DAN! SAID TO WORK HIM UP TO 28 DROPS OVER 2 WEEKS. I WAS TO GIVE

HIM 28 DROPS EVERY OTHER DAY. WE DECIDED HOWEVER TO GO WITH THE ANDY

CUTLER'S PROTOCOL. I STARTED HIM OFF WITH 6 DROPS & NEVER MADE IT TO

10 OVER THE 3 DAYS. I DO WANT TO START HIM ASAP. I JUST DON'T KNOW

WHAT TO START WITH??

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> The td-dmps probably has glutathione or something your son doesn't

tolerate in it. I presume your son has NO mercury amalgam dental

fillings. Which four foods does your kid eat? Consider switching to

oral DMSA.

> S S

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I'm just curious, but why no glutathione?

> >

> HI!

> YES, HIS TD-DMPS IS PRESCRIBED WITH GLUTATHION.

> HIS DAN! SAID TO WORK HIM UP TO 28 DROPS OVER 2 WEEKS. I WAS TO

GIVE

> HIM 28 DROPS EVERY OTHER DAY. WE DECIDED HOWEVER TO GO WITH THE

ANDY

> CUTLER'S PROTOCOL. I STARTED HIM OFF WITH 6 DROPS & NEVER MADE IT

TO

> 10 OVER THE 3 DAYS. I DO WANT TO START HIM ASAP. I JUST DON'T KNOW

> WHAT TO START WITH??

>

> >

> > The td-dmps probably has glutathione or something your son

doesn't

> tolerate in it. I presume your son has NO mercury amalgam dental

> fillings. Which four foods does your kid eat? Consider switching

to

> oral DMSA.

> > S S

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What is his copper result (the number)?

You should give zinc all the time. Make sure your dose is high

enough (see the supplement file). Also check to see if you are

using the recommended supplements for chelation (at the end of the

file).

What are the 4 foods he eats?

Are you doing anything now for yeast?

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> HI!

> YES, HIS TD-DMPS IS PRESCRIBED WITH GLUTATHION.

> HIS DAN! SAID TO WORK HIM UP TO 28 DROPS OVER 2 WEEKS. I WAS TO GIVE

> HIM 28 DROPS EVERY OTHER DAY. WE DECIDED HOWEVER TO GO WITH THE ANDY

> CUTLER'S PROTOCOL. I STARTED HIM OFF WITH 6 DROPS & NEVER MADE IT TO

> 10 OVER THE 3 DAYS. I DO WANT TO START HIM ASAP. I JUST DON'T KNOW

> WHAT TO START WITH??

>

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> >

> HI!

> YES, HIS TD-DMPS IS PRESCRIBED WITH GLUTATHION.

> HIS DAN! SAID TO WORK HIM UP TO 28 DROPS OVER 2 WEEKS. I WAS TO

GIVE

> HIM 28 DROPS EVERY OTHER DAY. WE DECIDED HOWEVER TO GO WITH THE

ANDY

> CUTLER'S PROTOCOL. I STARTED HIM OFF WITH 6 DROPS & NEVER MADE IT

TO

> 10 OVER THE 3 DAYS. I DO WANT TO START HIM ASAP. I JUST DON'T KNOW

> WHAT TO START WITH??

>

> >

> > The td-dmps probably has glutathione or something your son

doesn't

> tolerate in it. I presume your son has NO mercury amalgam dental

> fillings. Which four foods does your kid eat? Consider switching

to

> oral DMSA.

> > S S

> >

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