Re: New Baby...Vaccine Help!!!

[Guest guest]

You need to get Dr. Cave's book " What your doctor may not

tell you about vaccinations " (title may not be exactly that, but

close). She talks about each vaccine and has a proposed schedule in

the back, which I have seen her post elsewhere that she still approves

of at this time, even though the book is a few years old.

Trish

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> Hello. I'm new here and really need some help. We have been chelating

> our 6 yr old for years now after getting several shots at once, still

> nonverbal and very stimmy, and are very concerned for our newborn. I

> had a hard time at the hospital leaving without giving my newborn the

> shots they insisted on and desperately need a list of the shots that

> are NECESSARY. Does such a thing exist? How do you know what shots to

> give and which ones are superfluous? Please help and thank you so

much

> for your time.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm new here but my family has been coming up with interesting

alternatives for vaccination which might be helpful or could help

you to ask questions which could lead to an alternative for your

child. I'm guessing you may know more about the ins and outs than we

do, which might make what I write moot, but you never know what info

someone else has or doesn't.

Some people just don't vaccinate at all and simply do extended

nursing (past the age of two and beyond. The immune system is not

really mature until about six years of age). Though it's probably

advisable to get breastmilk tested for toxins these days, even if

you have no amalgams or don't eat fish. Some of us had too much lead

exposure and if you get low in calcium, the body can retrieve lead

from the bones, mistaking it for calcium and release it to the

nursing child. Don't get low in calcium if you're nursing. Take

supplements at least twice a day because they're flushed out of the

body after six hours or so. It's unknown whether mercury " mimmicks "

any nutrient in the body or not, so don't get " low " in anything if

you're nursing. You probably know this anyway.

We thought that, if we had it to over again, we'd try to order

vaccinations from a country where thimerosal was banned. If that

wasn't possible, and we could have found a way to afford it, we'd

have gone to some country with a total ban to get the really

necessary vaccinations there. We wouldn't have vaccinated until the

kids were older either. Probably just polio and diptheria and

possibly Hib.

Obviously we don't have things to do over again and haven't

investigated those options fully. There's always the issue of

keeping an unvaccinated child healthy on an overseas flight because,

if you arrive and the child gets sick with something, you'd have to

hang out in that country waiting for them to recouperate before

getting vaccinated. Expensive but it could be a nice tour if it's

not completely unaffordable. One mistake we made was letting the

pediatrican vaccinate both children when they had colds.

My sister is either going to try to order vaccines from Europe

(again, she hasn't done it yet and has nothing crucial to report on

whether it's even possible) or is taking her sons, seven and eleven,

to Europe (not sure which country, possibly Sweden) for just a few

select boosters. She's researching heavily to find out if there's

any misreporting going on about total bans and mercury contents in

vaccines from which countries. She's an RN and doesn't trust

anything available to Americans or Canadians because of pharma

corruption and FDA incompetence.

Another creative option is to find a very sympathetic naturopath MD

or DAN doctor who can order the select, supposedly no-mercury-added

vaccinations from a pharmacy and have them tested at a lab before

use to make sure they really are mercury-free. But then there's

always MSG, formaldehyde and other crap in vaccines to worry about.

Not sure how any of that works, but if you come up with a creative

idea on this, the veterans here can probably help with the pragmatic

aspects of it.

> >

> > Hello. I'm new here and really need some help. We have been

chelating

> > our 6 yr old for years now after getting several shots at once,

still

> > nonverbal and very stimmy, and are very concerned for our

newborn. I

> > had a hard time at the hospital leaving without giving my

newborn the

> > shots they insisted on and desperately need a list of the shots

that

> > are NECESSARY. Does such a thing exist? How do you know what

shots to

> > give and which ones are superfluous? Please help and thank you

so

> much

> > for your time.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Bless you for having the balls to challenge the hospital staff and

congratulations on the new baby.

There are no legal timelines for getting these shots done, and really

no laws forcing you to vaccinate at all. There are mandates which

require shots to attend public school, but also ways around that via

exemption forms. Which state are you in? In every State law there are

written exemptions.

http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm

NO vaccine is perfectly safe. No vaccine is 'necessary' above

another. If you are looking for an alternate vaccination schedule, you

can find one in the book of Dr. Cave or a more cautious

schedule here:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html

If I were going to vaccinate another child, I would not even approach

the subject until they were at least 2 years of age. Let that little

brain and nervous system/digestive system develop for that critical

time period. If you are nervous about school and further harassment,

you have over 4 years to get those vaccines even IF you wait until your

child is 2 (since many kids enter kindergarten at age 6).

Good luck to you! Be prepared for your next visit to the

pediatrician. Actually, all of those visits are set up for the purpose

of vaccinations, so I'm not sure if you need to even go for that 2

month visit (though it is fun to see how big they've gotten; that is

the hook to get you to come in). If you are up to it... hit that doc

head on!

Pam

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> Hello. I'm new here and really need some help. We have been chelating

> our 6 yr old for years now after getting several shots at once, still

> nonverbal and very stimmy, and are very concerned for our newborn. I

> had a hard time at the hospital leaving without giving my newborn the

> shots they insisted on and desperately need a list of the shots that

> are NECESSARY. Does such a thing exist? How do you know what shots to

> give and which ones are superfluous? Please help and thank you so

much

> for your time.

>

[Guest guest]

The Hidden Truth... everyone should view this.....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8610554679207090010

Thinktwice.com

And by all means, join your local - momvaccines.org

moms opposing manditory vaccines... make a donation and get their

newletter, you 'll be happy you did.

Then, you'll get vary angry that is information was so hard to get.

We must make educated decisions on this issue. And share your

experiences.

> >

> > Hello. I'm new here and really need some help. We have been

chelating

> > our 6 yr old for years now after getting several shots at once,

still

> > nonverbal and very stimmy, and are very concerned for our

newborn. I

> > had a hard time at the hospital leaving without giving my newborn

the

> > shots they insisted on and desperately need a list of the shots

that

> > are NECESSARY. Does such a thing exist? How do you know what

shots to

> > give and which ones are superfluous? Please help and thank you so

> much

> > for your time.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Congratulations on your new baby and on escaping the early vaccines! None are

necessary. I have two nephews who are completely unvaccinated and healthy.

They were born at home with a midwife. Another nephew (different sibling's kid)

has vaccine-induced autism. Before you make any decisions please read

Cave, MD's book as well as " Evidence of Harm " by Kirby, and " A Shot in the

Dark " by Barbara Loe Fisher.

S S

Hello. I'm new here and really need some help. We have been

chelating

our 6 yr old for years now after getting several shots at once, still

nonverbal and very stimmy, and are very concerned for our newborn. I

had a hard time at the hospital leaving without giving my newborn the

shots they insisted on and desperately need a list of the shots that

are NECESSARY. Does such a thing exist? How do you know what shots to

give and which ones are superfluous? Please help and thank you so much

for your time.

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Hi,

We have a 21 month old and I have an 18 year old who has ADHD and severe

allergies, and a 16 year old son who is non verbal and severely autistic, and a

14 year old daughter who is fine, but has allergies. My 14 year old did not get

all her shots because I made the connection between my 16 year old sons

regression into autism and his immunizations. My 21 month old was a surprise

baby!!!!

My husband and I really researched the safety and effectiveness of these

vaccines when my now 21 month old daughter was born, and were really stunned to

see how little research and testing were done to determine their safety or

effectiveness. But those vaccines are money makers.

Yesterday I went to Mc's with my 21 month old daughter and we met a

21month old little boy. the mom was concerned about him and at one point told

me she thought he was autistic. I told her my story and she has decided not to

give him anymore immunizations. The saddest part of that day was the dramatic

difference in my daughters development and language/interaction and this little

boy. After researching the risks and benefits of vaccinating or not vaccinating

it was a no brainer for us not to vaccinate. The risks far out way the benefits,

and the risks not to vaccinate are very very exaggerated.

I always tell health professionals that my 16 year old son is vaccine damaged,

not autistic, and that I will not take the chance on my 21 month old daughter

reacting to the vaccines. I have never had anyone say anything to me.

Also, I don't take her to see a pediatrician, she see's a general Dr. and only

when she is sick. There is no need in my mind to see a Dr. if you are not sick,

other than to line the pocket's $$$ of these Dr.'s. I can monitor my daughter

growth and developments myself and I have always taken her in if she has been

ill. She has only been ill once. She is the healthiest child I have ever had,

and the difference between her and the other vaccinated kids is so sad. She is

so full of life and engaged. So many of the kids, if not all of the kids I have

seen are spacey and sickly.

It is so sad.

Read or contact the National Vaccine Organization (can't think of their exact

name), but Barbara Loe Fisher is president, I think. She will have the kind of

information you will need to make this decision.

The mom I met at Mc's told me her Dr. had scared her into getting her son

immunized, but she said she never felt it was right. She is not going to

immunize him anymore. I should note that this little guy was very under weight,

spacey, and non-engaging. She said he had a lot of allergies and health was

poor. My daughter could get no response out of him, and she really tried : )

Don't let them scare you into vaccinating.

There is also a great video on this subject from either England or Australia.

Does anyone remember it? It was a long video, but great information.

Good luck,

---- sarahghaleb <sarahghaleb@...> wrote:

> Hello. I'm new here and really need some help. We have been chelating

> our 6 yr old for years now after getting several shots at once, still

> nonverbal and very stimmy, and are very concerned for our newborn. I

> had a hard time at the hospital leaving without giving my newborn the

> shots they insisted on and desperately need a list of the shots that

> are NECESSARY. Does such a thing exist? How do you know what shots to

> give and which ones are superfluous? Please help and thank you so much

> for your time.

>