Re: College shooting- drugs again

[Guest guest]

It will be interesting to see if they do a hair test analysis, UPPA

etc, and what they tell us about his toxic burden! Vax from when he

came to the states as well as when he entered college!!!

-- In , " anacat_11 " <anacat_11@...>

wrote:

>

> I was so freaked by the cell phone lady incident that I didn't

watch

> or read the news yesterday. OMG. I can't imagine what it was like

for

> those poor students. I dread the idea of sending our kids to public

> schools because of it, which is probably tragically what a lot of

> people feel. And here's the eery common thread of what we've been

> talking about:

>

>

> " Several students and professors described Cho as a sullen loner.

> Authorities said he left a rambling note raging against women and

rich

> kids. News reports said that Cho, a 23-year-old senior majoring in

> English, may have been taking medication for depression and that he

> was becoming increasingly erratic. "

>

>

> The story on AP:

>

>

http://news./s/ap/20070418/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shooting

>

> The ABC news spin was that " This is not Columbine. This has a

> (something) all its own " .

>

> I think they're being very careful to say that because of the

really

> obvious common denominator in the two situations.

>

> There were remarks in the story that the shooter habitually

wouldn't

> make eye contact. If this was a childhood trait, it makes you

wonder

> if something happened to him when he had to get his vaccines

updated

> on emigrating to the states in *1992*. If this wasn't the case,

it's a

> morbid fact that some psychiatric drugs, especially stimulants (not

> sure about antidepressants, though there's a lot of overlap) have

been

> seen to create " autistic-like syndromes " of robotic behavior,

> avoidance of eye contact and erratic rages. The latter is true of

> benzodiazapines as well. Since brain swelling itself can cause

> avoidance of eye contact, I wonder if he was having a toxic

reaction.

>

> Of course it's not all that simple. This kid had rage against women

> too. Domestic violence/rape/lethal asssault on women have always

been

> with us, prior to vaccines, drugs, all of it. But toxic crap which

is

> proven to cause psychotic violence doesn't make it better.

>

> Now all the victims' families are going to be herded into viewing

this

> thing a certain way. The government is already all over it,

spinning,

> spinning. Insult to injury: tragic loss followed by lies.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi!

Today I was surfing around the news in Korea, and I couldn't believe

what I read!

One of the interviewer who happened to know the disturbed young man

in the states commented that Cho had " AUTISTIC SYPMTOMS " !!!

Please! I just can't understand those people who just babbles

without thinking! This man doesn't even know what autism is!

To him, all the loner who doesn't socialize and can't fit in the

group with the rest of other kids is AUTISM.

I just hope that others do not relate our children with the loner

after reading the article.

And for sure, I'd rather have an autistic son than a disturbed child

who ends up as a gunman!

> >

> > I was so freaked by the cell phone lady incident that I didn't

> watch

> > or read the news yesterday. OMG. I can't imagine what it was

like

> for

> > those poor students. I dread the idea of sending our kids to

public

> > schools because of it, which is probably tragically what a lot

of

> > people feel. And here's the eery common thread of what we've

been

> > talking about:

> >

> >

> > " Several students and professors described Cho as a sullen

loner.

> > Authorities said he left a rambling note raging against women

and

> rich

> > kids. News reports said that Cho, a 23-year-old senior majoring

in

> > English, may have been taking medication for depression and that

he

> > was becoming increasingly erratic. "

> >

> >

> > The story on AP:

> >

> >

>

http://news./s/ap/20070418/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shootin

g

> >

> > The ABC news spin was that " This is not Columbine. This has a

> > (something) all its own " .

> >

> > I think they're being very careful to say that because of the

> really

> > obvious common denominator in the two situations.

> >

> > There were remarks in the story that the shooter habitually

> wouldn't

> > make eye contact. If this was a childhood trait, it makes you

> wonder

> > if something happened to him when he had to get his vaccines

> updated

> > on emigrating to the states in *1992*. If this wasn't the case,

> it's a

> > morbid fact that some psychiatric drugs, especially stimulants

(not

> > sure about antidepressants, though there's a lot of overlap)

have

> been

> > seen to create " autistic-like syndromes " of robotic behavior,

> > avoidance of eye contact and erratic rages. The latter is true

of

> > benzodiazapines as well. Since brain swelling itself can cause

> > avoidance of eye contact, I wonder if he was having a toxic

> reaction.

> >

> > Of course it's not all that simple. This kid had rage against

women

> > too. Domestic violence/rape/lethal asssault on women have always

> been

> > with us, prior to vaccines, drugs, all of it. But toxic crap

which

> is

> > proven to cause psychotic violence doesn't make it better.

> >

> > Now all the victims' families are going to be herded into

viewing

> this

> > thing a certain way. The government is already all over it,

> spinning,

> > spinning. Insult to injury: tragic loss followed by lies.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We're going to hear a lot more about this in the coming weeks, so

brace yourselves.

I think that crock correlations like that (saying autism could be a

component in mass murder on its own) is the problem of having autism

so prominent in the news but separated from factual explanation of

toxic cause. Autism becomes an all-purpose " mystery disease " which

armchair experts will apply to any baffling situation where the

individual has difficulty communicating or avoids eye contact. When

schizophrenia was the " condition du jour " then everything criminal

in the news was correlated to it (again, schizophrenia includes

avoidance of eye contact in some cases). But for now, autism is " it "

along with a few other conditions of " dubious genetic origin " . And,

as you know, everyone's heard that autistic people are

always " violent " . The " biodiversity " crowd has a point about that

perception being very demonizing.

And the situation can grow worse since autism has been dragged into

the range of " mental conditions " which the NIMH and the drug company

pseudo-science deems " druggable " . Reading up on the history of how

mental illness has been manufactured could provide a very good

warning for us in the anti-toxic community. For instance, there's no

proof that schizophrenia always includes components of violence.

Most people who hear voices are basically harmless. But creating the

public perception that schizophrenia is necessarily a violent

condition creates public consent for forced drugging of

schizophrenics. We're driven to consent to inhumane treatment by

being made to feel terror towards schizophrenics. And like autism,

there's no proof that schizophrenia is " genetic " , though there may

be an issue or preexisting susceptability to toxic body burden.

Unlike autism, schizophrenia has also been shown to stem from

susceptability to " mental burden " of traumatic experience and

violent schizophrenia from witnessing abuse committed to others in

childhood and experiencing abuse and neglect.

The reason I think we can distance ourselves from the criminal

aspect of Cho's case is that it probably wasn't just toxicity

driving him. I worked in advocacy for survivors of domestic violence

for five years and in every single case, the abuser in the situation

grew up witnessing abuse to their own mothers, grandmothers or

female caregivers (aunt, foster mother) as well as being physically

abused and neglected themselves. Many would deny it out of a

syndrome of covering up for their own role-model's crimes, but

scratch the surface and the story was always the same. The curious

thing is that there's no DSM diagnosis for a batterer or stalker.

Mental health professionals have no luck determining which men (and

the rare female) will or won't assault or stalk because

the " battering mentality " is not a mental illness, it's criminality.

You could say that " battering disorder " goes under the radar because

it's so close to the mentality of the average psychiatrist who would

unjudiciously drug the crap out of everyone, but that's beside the

point. Having a detectable " mental illness " is secondary to

battering mentality.

Point being, we can distantiate ourselves from the violent,

obsessive, hateful aspects of Cho's behavior. If our children don't

grow up in violently abusive homes, there's about zero chance that

they would grow up to be like Cho on their own. But though I wonder

if Cho was already struggling with a grip on reality as WELL as an

acquired abusive mentality (just speculating though I'm trying not

to " babble " ) prior to taking psychiatric medication, the other

caveat here, which we really shouldn't distance ourselves from, is

that psychiatric drugs have been shown to push completely non-

criminal, non-toxic people over the edge into committing violence.

The Wesbecker case is one example (guy with no violent history takes

psychotropes for a few weeks and then guns down a trading floor) and

the cases mentioned in the Null film are others. There were

even anecdotes from classmates which never hit the press that

had been a particularly passive and kind child prior to being

given Luvox. That's unclear, but nonviolent people have been made

violent by drugs alone.

I have no idea if the above fact has anything to do with the studies

showing that antidepressants can increase blood-brain barrier

permeability, which might allow any free-floating mercury in the

body to enter the brain. That research is so new that I'm just

making wild speculations. Though toxicity doesn't help people's

mental balance if they're mental health is already compromised by

trauma and drugs, it can't be the only factor in violent criminality

and we can say this with total confidence.

So, autism doesn't equal the capacity for mass murder. Neither does

schizophrenia on its own, even if toxicity is a component, and a

violent home life is usually necessary to develop long-standing

obsessive homicidal impulses. Unless you add drugs, then all bets

are basically off.

If we start to hear grotesque correlations being made to Cho's

crimes and " genetic autism " , it won't be because Cho may have been

toxic from, say, vaccines on top of schizophrenic on top of having

come from a violent background and on top of being drugged with

medications known to cause psychotic violence on their own. You can

be sure that no one's going to mention toxicity at all in the

mainstream press- not even from the psychiatric drugs. You also

won't be hearing any valid correlations made between homicidal

misogyny and a violent upbringing, because domestic violence is

another " under the rug " issue in our society. The drug companies

dislike the " home environment " theories because only " genetic spin "

really provides public consent to drug and abuse mental patients. So

none of that will be in play in how making false correlations is

justified. The only reason we may hear this correlation between mass

murder and autism is because it's being forced by spin in order to

manufacture consent to drug autistic children along with anyone else

the APA deems " druggable " . We won't beat this campaign by just

distancing ourselves from the whole thing but by making efforts to

ensure that the completely separate elements of the case are not

mashed together and oversimplified.

We're all going to hear increased push in the press for " universal

mental health screening " as though this would somehow prevent more

school shootings. It won't, both because the screening process has

been proven to be 80% inaccurate (it's already been in place for

years and the number of school/workplace shootings has increased

nevertheless). And the screening process leads to psychiatric drug

referrals in 9 out of ten cases- which will only lead to more

shootings.

> > >

> > > I was so freaked by the cell phone lady incident that I didn't

> > watch

> > > or read the news yesterday. OMG. I can't imagine what it was

> like

> > for

> > > those poor students. I dread the idea of sending our kids to

> public

> > > schools because of it, which is probably tragically what a lot

> of

> > > people feel. And here's the eery common thread of what we've

> been

> > > talking about:

> > >

> > >

> > > " Several students and professors described Cho as a sullen

> loner.

> > > Authorities said he left a rambling note raging against women

> and

> > rich

> > > kids. News reports said that Cho, a 23-year-old senior

majoring

> in

> > > English, may have been taking medication for depression and

that

> he

> > > was becoming increasingly erratic. "

> > >

> > >

> > > The story on AP:

> > >

> > >

> >

>

http://news./s/ap/20070418/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shootin

> g

> > >

> > > The ABC news spin was that " This is not Columbine. This has a

> > > (something) all its own " .

> > >

> > > I think they're being very careful to say that because of the

> > really

> > > obvious common denominator in the two situations.

> > >

> > > There were remarks in the story that the shooter habitually

> > wouldn't

> > > make eye contact. If this was a childhood trait, it makes you

> > wonder

> > > if something happened to him when he had to get his vaccines

> > updated

> > > on emigrating to the states in *1992*. If this wasn't the

case,

> > it's a

> > > morbid fact that some psychiatric drugs, especially stimulants

> (not

> > > sure about antidepressants, though there's a lot of overlap)

> have

> > been

> > > seen to create " autistic-like syndromes " of robotic behavior,

> > > avoidance of eye contact and erratic rages. The latter is true

> of

> > > benzodiazapines as well. Since brain swelling itself can cause

> > > avoidance of eye contact, I wonder if he was having a toxic

> > reaction.

> > >

> > > Of course it's not all that simple. This kid had rage against

> women

> > > too. Domestic violence/rape/lethal asssault on women have

always

> > been

> > > with us, prior to vaccines, drugs, all of it. But toxic crap

> which

> > is

> > > proven to cause psychotic violence doesn't make it better.

> > >

> > > Now all the victims' families are going to be herded into

> viewing

> > this

> > > thing a certain way. The government is already all over it,

> > spinning,

> > > spinning. Insult to injury: tragic loss followed by lies.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

They forgot to mention that this guy was put on antidepressants

recently! As were those Columbine shooters.

Everyone fails to see that antidepressants cause suicidal

tendencies, violent acts and mania..aka...they make you go nuts!

This dude was reported to have been getting more odd acting and

paranoid and obsessed with violence progressively after the drug.

Also, I see no mention of how many vaccines they probably made him

get before he could get into this country! And no doubt he was no

vaxed as a baby in Korea...so I am guessing they pumped him with

everything at once! I bet they would find a lot of mercury in his

brain. Not to mention...Korean's eat A LOT of fish.

> > >

> > > I was so freaked by the cell phone lady incident that I didn't

> > watch

> > > or read the news yesterday. OMG. I can't imagine what it was

> like

> > for

> > > those poor students. I dread the idea of sending our kids to

> public

> > > schools because of it, which is probably tragically what a lot

> of

> > > people feel. And here's the eery common thread of what we've

> been

> > > talking about:

> > >

> > >

> > > " Several students and professors described Cho as a sullen

> loner.

> > > Authorities said he left a rambling note raging against women

> and

> > rich

> > > kids. News reports said that Cho, a 23-year-old senior

majoring

> in

> > > English, may have been taking medication for depression and

that

> he

> > > was becoming increasingly erratic. "

> > >

> > >

> > > The story on AP:

> > >

> > >

> >

>

http://news./s/ap/20070418/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shootin

> g

> > >

> > > The ABC news spin was that " This is not Columbine. This has a

> > > (something) all its own " .

> > >

> > > I think they're being very careful to say that because of the

> > really

> > > obvious common denominator in the two situations.

> > >

> > > There were remarks in the story that the shooter habitually

> > wouldn't

> > > make eye contact. If this was a childhood trait, it makes you

> > wonder

> > > if something happened to him when he had to get his vaccines

> > updated

> > > on emigrating to the states in *1992*. If this wasn't the

case,

> > it's a

> > > morbid fact that some psychiatric drugs, especially stimulants

> (not

> > > sure about antidepressants, though there's a lot of overlap)

> have

> > been

> > > seen to create " autistic-like syndromes " of robotic behavior,

> > > avoidance of eye contact and erratic rages. The latter is true

> of

> > > benzodiazapines as well. Since brain swelling itself can cause

> > > avoidance of eye contact, I wonder if he was having a toxic

> > reaction.

> > >

> > > Of course it's not all that simple. This kid had rage against

> women

> > > too. Domestic violence/rape/lethal asssault on women have

always

> > been

> > > with us, prior to vaccines, drugs, all of it. But toxic crap

> which

> > is

> > > proven to cause psychotic violence doesn't make it better.

> > >

> > > Now all the victims' families are going to be herded into

> viewing

> > this

> > > thing a certain way. The government is already all over it,

> > spinning,

> > > spinning. Insult to injury: tragic loss followed by lies.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I heard on a few of the reports that a specialist called him Schizophrenic.

After watching the tape where he compares himself to the martyrdom of Jesus

Christ, I'd have to agree. I'm no expert in psychology, but both my uncles

had toxin-induced schitzophrenia and I am intimately familiar with the

disorder as a result.

I don't believe one bit that schitzophrenia is caused by " mental burden " .

Perhaps the violent component is, but the actual schitzophrenia, I don't

think so. Definately toxin related, just different toxins and later

exposure than Autism. In the neighborhood my Mom grew up in, all of the

boys got schitzophrenia and all the girls got thyroid goiter. They drank

well water growing up and the ground water had been contaminated by a

variety of heavy metals from a military installation that did metal

plating. Arsenic and who knows what else too. Kids that they were - they

played in the local pond not realizing it was a toxic dump. They only just

recently cleaned up the land in order to hand it over to the *local

community college*. Disgusting.

-Lana

When

> schizophrenia was the " condition du jour " then everything criminal

> in the news was correlated to it (again, schizophrenia includes

> avoidance of eye contact in some cases). But for now, autism is " it "

> along with a few other conditions of " dubious genetic origin " . And,

> as you know, everyone's heard that autistic people are

> always " violent " . The " biodiversity " crowd has a point about that

> perception being very demonizing.

>

> For instance, there's no

> proof that schizophrenia always includes components of violence.

> Most people who hear voices are basically harmless. But creating the

> public perception that schizophrenia is necessarily a violent

> condition creates public consent for forced drugging of

> schizophrenics. We're driven to consent to inhumane treatment by

> being made to feel terror towards schizophrenics. And like autism,

> there's no proof that schizophrenia is " genetic " , though there may

> be an issue or preexisting susceptability to toxic body burden.

> Unlike autism, schizophrenia has also been shown to stem from

> susceptability to " mental burden " of traumatic experience and

> violent schizophrenia from witnessing abuse committed to others in

> childhood and experiencing abuse and neglect.

>

[Guest guest]

We are making the assumption that he actually took the

antidepressants prescribed. I don't believe he was under any legal

requirement to take them nor was he being monitored; could be wrong.

I do know that compliance isn't too high (as far as taking meds)

within the mentally ill population.

In no way am I excusing antidepressants. I think they are definitely

linked to voilent actions and suicidal behavior. The recent report

deeming them 'safe' (benefits trump the risks, they say) really

scares me.

This kid was way off the deep end, and lots of people dropped the

ball.

Pam

> > > >

> > > > I was so freaked by the cell phone lady incident that I

didn't

> > > watch

> > > > or read the news yesterday. OMG. I can't imagine what it was

> > like

> > > for

> > > > those poor students. I dread the idea of sending our kids to

> > public

> > > > schools because of it, which is probably tragically what a

lot

> > of

> > > > people feel. And here's the eery common thread of what we've

> > been

> > > > talking about:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Several students and professors described Cho as a sullen

> > loner.

> > > > Authorities said he left a rambling note raging against women

> > and

> > > rich

> > > > kids. News reports said that Cho, a 23-year-old senior

> majoring

> > in

> > > > English, may have been taking medication for depression and

> that

> > he

> > > > was becoming increasingly erratic. "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The story on AP:

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://news./s/ap/20070418/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shootin

> > g

> > > >

> > > > The ABC news spin was that " This is not Columbine. This has a

> > > > (something) all its own " .

> > > >

> > > > I think they're being very careful to say that because of the

> > > really

> > > > obvious common denominator in the two situations.

> > > >

> > > > There were remarks in the story that the shooter habitually

> > > wouldn't

> > > > make eye contact. If this was a childhood trait, it makes you

> > > wonder

> > > > if something happened to him when he had to get his vaccines

> > > updated

> > > > on emigrating to the states in *1992*. If this wasn't the

> case,

> > > it's a

> > > > morbid fact that some psychiatric drugs, especially

stimulants

> > (not

> > > > sure about antidepressants, though there's a lot of overlap)

> > have

> > > been

> > > > seen to create " autistic-like syndromes " of robotic behavior,

> > > > avoidance of eye contact and erratic rages. The latter is

true

> > of

> > > > benzodiazapines as well. Since brain swelling itself can

cause

> > > > avoidance of eye contact, I wonder if he was having a toxic

> > > reaction.

> > > >

> > > > Of course it's not all that simple. This kid had rage against

> > women

> > > > too. Domestic violence/rape/lethal asssault on women have

> always

> > > been

> > > > with us, prior to vaccines, drugs, all of it. But toxic crap

> > which

> > > is

> > > > proven to cause psychotic violence doesn't make it better.

> > > >

> > > > Now all the victims' families are going to be herded into

> > viewing

> > > this

> > > > thing a certain way. The government is already all over it,

> > > spinning,

> > > > spinning. Insult to injury: tragic loss followed by lies.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am not assuming, the media is saying he was on them. Only testing

by the coroner can prove that.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was so freaked by the cell phone lady incident that I

> didn't

> > > > watch

> > > > > or read the news yesterday. OMG. I can't imagine what it

was

> > > like

> > > > for

> > > > > those poor students. I dread the idea of sending our kids

to

> > > public

> > > > > schools because of it, which is probably tragically what a

> lot

> > > of

> > > > > people feel. And here's the eery common thread of what

we've

> > > been

> > > > > talking about:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " Several students and professors described Cho as a sullen

> > > loner.

> > > > > Authorities said he left a rambling note raging against

women

> > > and

> > > > rich

> > > > > kids. News reports said that Cho, a 23-year-old senior

> > majoring

> > > in

> > > > > English, may have been taking medication for depression

and

> > that

> > > he

> > > > > was becoming increasingly erratic. "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The story on AP:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://news./s/ap/20070418/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shootin

> > > g

> > > > >

> > > > > The ABC news spin was that " This is not Columbine. This

has a

> > > > > (something) all its own " .

> > > > >

> > > > > I think they're being very careful to say that because of

the

> > > > really

> > > > > obvious common denominator in the two situations.

> > > > >

> > > > > There were remarks in the story that the shooter

habitually

> > > > wouldn't

> > > > > make eye contact. If this was a childhood trait, it makes

you

> > > > wonder

> > > > > if something happened to him when he had to get his

vaccines

> > > > updated

> > > > > on emigrating to the states in *1992*. If this wasn't the

> > case,

> > > > it's a

> > > > > morbid fact that some psychiatric drugs, especially

> stimulants

> > > (not

> > > > > sure about antidepressants, though there's a lot of

overlap)

> > > have

> > > > been

> > > > > seen to create " autistic-like syndromes " of robotic

behavior,

> > > > > avoidance of eye contact and erratic rages. The latter is

> true

> > > of

> > > > > benzodiazapines as well. Since brain swelling itself can

> cause

> > > > > avoidance of eye contact, I wonder if he was having a

toxic

> > > > reaction.

> > > > >

> > > > > Of course it's not all that simple. This kid had rage

against

> > > women

> > > > > too. Domestic violence/rape/lethal asssault on women have

> > always

> > > > been

> > > > > with us, prior to vaccines, drugs, all of it. But toxic

crap

> > > which

> > > > is

> > > > > proven to cause psychotic violence doesn't make it better.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now all the victims' families are going to be herded into

> > > viewing

> > > > this

> > > > > thing a certain way. The government is already all over

it,

> > > > spinning,

> > > > > spinning. Insult to injury: tragic loss followed by lies.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was so freaked by the cell phone lady incident that I

> > didn't

> > > > > watch

> > > > > > or read the news yesterday. OMG. I can't imagine what it

> was

> > > > like

> > > > > for

> > > > > > those poor students. I dread the idea of sending our

kids

> to

> > > > public

> > > > > > schools because of it, which is probably tragically what

a

> > lot

> > > > of

> > > > > > people feel. And here's the eery common thread of what

> we've

> > > > been

> > > > > > talking about:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Several students and professors described Cho as a

sullen

> > > > loner.

> > > > > > Authorities said he left a rambling note raging against

> women

> > > > and

> > > > > rich

> > > > > > kids. News reports said that Cho, a 23-year-old senior

> > > majoring

> > > > in

> > > > > > English, may have been taking medication for depression

> and

> > > that

> > > > he

> > > > > > was becoming increasingly erratic. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The story on AP:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://news./s/ap/20070418/ap_on_re_us/virginia_tech_shootin

> > > > g

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The ABC news spin was that " This is not Columbine. This

> has a

> > > > > > (something) all its own " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think they're being very careful to say that because

of

> the

> > > > > really

> > > > > > obvious common denominator in the two situations.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There were remarks in the story that the shooter

> habitually

> > > > > wouldn't

> > > > > > make eye contact. If this was a childhood trait, it

makes

> you

> > > > > wonder

> > > > > > if something happened to him when he had to get his

> vaccines

> > > > > updated

> > > > > > on emigrating to the states in *1992*. If this wasn't

the

> > > case,

> > > > > it's a

> > > > > > morbid fact that some psychiatric drugs, especially

> > stimulants

> > > > (not

> > > > > > sure about antidepressants, though there's a lot of

> overlap)

> > > > have

> > > > > been

> > > > > > seen to create " autistic-like syndromes " of robotic

> behavior,

> > > > > > avoidance of eye contact and erratic rages. The latter

is

> > true

> > > > of

> > > > > > benzodiazapines as well. Since brain swelling itself can

> > cause

> > > > > > avoidance of eye contact, I wonder if he was having a

> toxic

> > > > > reaction.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Of course it's not all that simple. This kid had rage

> against

> > > > women

> > > > > > too. Domestic violence/rape/lethal asssault on women

have

> > > always

> > > > > been

> > > > > > with us, prior to vaccines, drugs, all of it. But toxic

> crap

> > > > which

> > > > > is

> > > > > > proven to cause psychotic violence doesn't make it

better.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now all the victims' families are going to be herded

into

> > > > viewing

> > > > > this

> > > > > > thing a certain way. The government is already all over

> it,

> > > > > spinning,

> > > > > > spinning. Insult to injury: tragic loss followed by lies.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>