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Hi Becky,

Welcome to the list. Comments interspersed.

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Hi everyone,

I posted a question about chelating with ALA alone on another board and

several people recommended that I post the question on this board.

We are having our son tested for heavy metals with a urine porphyrin

test and I am educating myself about options for chelation. I am trying

to determine what chelation approach would be effective while

minimizing risks. Could you please let me know if you have tried ALA

alone and whether you had problems or positive results?

I did ALA alone (I'm mainly dealing with mercury and arsenic) for a while and

have done some rounds with both ALA and DMSA (because my lead level is higher

than I'd like it to be).

Also, if you

think it would be more beneficial to use DMSA and ALA at the same time

rather than ALA alone, could you let me know why?

It depends upon which metals your son is dealing with. ALA chelates mercury

(from body and brain) and arsenic. DMSA chelates mercury (from body) and lead.

If he has had recent known exposure (vaccines or dental amalgam removal) you'll

need to either start with DMSA or wait 3 months to start ALA). Please read the

FAQs of this list for dose and dosing schedule info.

Thanks for your help!

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>>Could you please let me know if you have tried ALA

> alone and whether you had problems or positive results?

I chelated all four of my kids with ALA.

I am currently chelating myself with ALA.

The only negative I experienced with my kids was yeast overgrowth,

which I kept under control with GSE [primarily], biotin, and Candidase

enzyme. For myself, I have had yeast issues, and also mineral

deficiency issues. I take a daily mineral supplement which is helping

that issue.

Also, if you

> think it would be more beneficial to use DMSA and ALA at the same time

> rather than ALA alone, could you let me know why?

I never used DMSA, I was not comfortable with the potential risks and

side effects.

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I want to start my son on ALA. Any recommendations on a good brand? How many

mg's? I'm already giving him GSE, should I be giving him the biotin and

Candidase enzyme that you mentioned as well? If so, what brand is good for

those?

Would it at all be harmful to also give him a mineral supplement, just in case

there is a mineral deficiency? If so, how can I tell if he has a mineral

deficiency?

Thanks so much for your help Dana!!!!

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Janeen,

Mgs depends upon how much your son weighs. 1/8-1/2 mgs per lb, every 3 hours

during the day, every 4 hours at night for at least 3 days and nights on (2.6

days if he's in school full time. Have you done a hair elements test? What did

it show? I presume he has NO mercury amalgam dental fillings?!

I want to start my son on ALA. Any recommendations on a good brand?

How many mg's? I'm already giving him GSE, should I be giving him the biotin

and Candidase enzyme that you mentioned as well? If so, what brand is good for

those?

Would it at all be harmful to also give him a mineral supplement, just in case

there is a mineral deficiency? If so, how can I tell if he has a mineral

deficiency?

Thanks so much for your help Dana!!!!

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> I want to start my son on ALA. Any recommendations on a good brand?

I have used Kirkman and Natural Factors brands.

>>How many mg's?

Start with low dose. On this message list, most people recommend

1/8-1/4 mg per pound. I started my kids with 25mg.

>>I'm already giving him GSE, should I be giving him the biotin and

Candidase enzyme that you mentioned as well? If so, what brand is

good for those?

I " accidentally " discovered that those two things reduced my son's

requirement for GSE, so I would recommend you at least consider them.

Candidase is by Enzymedica. I use Henry's brand of biotin. Check

labels for additives and other filler ingredients. Try to use a

product without many additives.

> Would it at all be harmful to also give him a mineral supplement,

just in case there is a mineral deficiency? If so, how can I tell if

he has a mineral deficiency?

ALA will pull minerals, so unless your child is mineral toxic [mine

was, but it is not common], you will need to give a mineral

supplement. It would only be harmful if your child was mineral toxic.

I learned that for my son, giving any mineral supplement caused him

to be wildly hyper and lose what little mental focus he had. Giving a

demineralizer [iP6] caused nice improvements.

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We haven't done any testing on him, but I'm convinced that he is in need of

detox. I have just found out about liquid zeolite and this seems like a safer

and easier alternative to ALA. The info on it says that there isn't any need to

supplement minerals because it doesn't chelate minerals only metals. Also you

can start slow by only giving one drop a day and lower the dose by dilluting it

with water if needed. Any thoughts on this? And no, he doesn't have any

fillings.

Thanks for your help and advice,

Janeen

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Janeen,

It may be helpful to run a DDI hair elements test for your son. This

can answer some questions about minerals. If you run another one in

six months, you'll be able to see if your child is excreting metals

too. It also provides a lot of other good information. You can

order the hair elements test yourself through DirectLabs

http://www.directlabs.com/ and get a discount right now for autism

month. I have also found the Metametrix ION panel to be enormously

helpful and I wish I would have run one the very first day I started

down this road.

A number of parents are seeing good stuff with the zeolites, but it

is debatable whether or not the zeolites will actually chelate metals

(the good results could be any number of things or some sort of

combination). The thing is for most of our kids, the metals are

buried deep inside organs like the brain and liver, or, in the case

of lead, inside the bones, constantly poisoning the body. As a

parent, I would want evidence that my child was consistantly

excreting some decent level of metals while using the NCD and I

wouldn't rely on the manufacturer's claims alone.

Best wishes,

Anita

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> We haven't done any testing on him, but I'm convinced that he is in

need of detox. I have just found out about liquid zeolite and this

seems like a safer and easier alternative to ALA. The info on it

says that there isn't any need to supplement minerals because it

doesn't chelate minerals only metals. Also you can start slow by

only giving one drop a day and lower the dose by dilluting it with

water if needed. Any thoughts on this? And no, he doesn't have any

fillings.

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> Janeen

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Thanks Anita,

I thought that mercury wouldn't show up in hair tests because it is

so deeply in the brain/body? Unless the mercury poisoning was a

large amount and recent. Am I misunderstanding something?

Thanks for your help,

Janeen

> >

> > We haven't done any testing on him, but I'm convinced that he is

in

> need of detox. I have just found out about liquid zeolite and this

> seems like a safer and easier alternative to ALA. The info on it

> says that there isn't any need to supplement minerals because it

> doesn't chelate minerals only metals. Also you can start slow by

> only giving one drop a day and lower the dose by dilluting it with

> water if needed. Any thoughts on this? And no, he doesn't have

any

> fillings.

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> > Thanks for your help and advice,

> > Janeen

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Actually, Janeen, you're right. The mercury won't show up unless

your child is already excreting it. If your child is, then that is

information you can use too. But if your child shows none coming

out, that is also information you can use. You can also apply Andy's

counting rules to see about toxicity.

Also, once you are chelating, you should be seeing toxic metals in

the hair. For example, my son's tests now show lead, mercury,

aluminum, antimony, etc all in the red. This looks horrifying when

you first see it, but then you calm down and realize that this is

actually good--you want the poisons coming out. I test once every 6

months (more often is generally not helpful) and I find them

extremely helpful for many reasons. They are pretty cheap and not

traumatic for kids.

Andy's books really help to understand all the information you can

get from these tests, but some people on this list are very good at

intrepreting them too.

I hope that might help :-)

Anita

> > >

> > > We haven't done any testing on him, but I'm convinced that he

is

> in

> > need of detox. I have just found out about liquid zeolite and

this

> > seems like a safer and easier alternative to ALA. The info on it

> > says that there isn't any need to supplement minerals because it

> > doesn't chelate minerals only metals. Also you can start slow by

> > only giving one drop a day and lower the dose by dilluting it

with

> > water if needed. Any thoughts on this? And no, he doesn't have

> any

> > fillings.

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> > > Thanks for your help and advice,

> > > Janeen

> > >

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> > > Janeen Leah

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find

> > out more about Janeen at http://www.janeenleah.com

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Correct, hence Andy's counting rules...

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Thanks Anita,

I thought that mercury wouldn't show up in hair tests because it is

so deeply in the brain/body? Unless the mercury poisoning was a

large amount and recent. Am I misunderstanding something?

Thanks for your help,

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Also I am thinking Andy has said that hair tests are not a good way to track

excretion of metals. Sometimes the excretion shows up in hair test and sometimes

it doesn't. It did here and as Anita reported it did for her but I have known

others whose children recovered who never saw it in their child's repeated hair

tests. And I know of several cases where the child's mercury was wildly in the

red without corresponding improvements.

This past weekend my dgd was reading me the story of " The Seven Blind Mice " and

it occured to me that this is the reason it is sometimes so hard to have

conversations about anything having to do with Autism.

Just like the mice who were positioned at different areas of the elephant all

saw and reported that the elephant was a different thing, so it is for Autism.

Autism, to us, looks totally different here than it does for someone else who is

looking at it through their child. Probably very bad analogy but thought I'd

share it.

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Correct, hence Andy's counting rules...

S S

Thanks Anita,

I thought that mercury wouldn't show up in hair tests because it is

so deeply in the brain/body? Unless the mercury poisoning was a

large amount and recent. Am I misunderstanding something?

Thanks for your help,

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I have read about counting rules a few times, but I am not sure what

they are. Where can I find out more?

Thanks,

Becky

>

> Thanks Anita,

> I thought that mercury wouldn't show up in hair tests because it is

> so deeply in the brain/body? Unless the mercury poisoning was a

> large amount and recent. Am I misunderstanding something?

>

> Thanks for your help,

> Janeen

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> Also I am thinking Andy has said that hair tests are not a good way

to track excretion of metals. Sometimes the excretion shows up in

hair test and sometimes it doesn't. It did here and as Anita reported

it did for her but I have known others whose children recovered who

never saw it in their child's repeated hair tests. And I know of

several cases where the child's mercury was wildly in the red without

corresponding improvements.

>

>

I looked around to see if I could find Andy's explanation for this

and I couldn't find it. It really doesn't make sense to me

that we cannot track excretion through the hair, at least for the

majority of our kids, during chelation.

I know that if the hair test meets the counting rules then you cannot

trust the toxic elements to be very accurate, but still wouldn't you

see trends of excretion, especially as hair tests normalize? Or does

Andy mean that you might be excreting through your hair, but that

doesn't mean you're excreting via urine and bm's?

I'm confused by this.

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Equally confused here, Anita, but I tend to try to think of a hair

test as giving more insight into what has been mobilized rather than

what has been excreted. Might be wrong, or just might be more

conservative, but it does seem possible to me that you can show it in

the hair and not be doing a good job getting it out, really out.

That said, we have seen almost no mercury in my son's hair, despite

50 rounds AC style.

Anne

> >

> > Also I am thinking Andy has said that hair tests are not a good

way

> to track excretion of metals. Sometimes the excretion shows up in

> hair test and sometimes it doesn't. It did here and as Anita

reported

> it did for her but I have known others whose children recovered who

> never saw it in their child's repeated hair tests. And I know of

> several cases where the child's mercury was wildly in the red

without

> corresponding improvements.

> >

> >

>

> I looked around to see if I could find Andy's explanation for this

> and I couldn't find it. It really doesn't make sense to me

> that we cannot track excretion through the hair, at least for the

> majority of our kids, during chelation.

>

> I know that if the hair test meets the counting rules then you

cannot

> trust the toxic elements to be very accurate, but still wouldn't

you

> see trends of excretion, especially as hair tests normalize? Or

does

> Andy mean that you might be excreting through your hair, but that

> doesn't mean you're excreting via urine and bm's?

>

> I'm confused by this.

>

> Anita

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Also confused, Anita. I don't think any explanation was offered to my

recollection but know that he has said on more than one occassion that serial

hair tests are not useful for this purpose followed by his directive that the

best indication is the behavior/improvement of the child/person. Maybe something

will come to me if I think about it for awhile.

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>

> Also I am thinking Andy has said that hair tests are not a good way

to track excretion of metals. Sometimes the excretion shows up in

hair test and sometimes it doesn't. It did here and as Anita reported

it did for her but I have known others whose children recovered who

never saw it in their child's repeated hair tests. And I know of

several cases where the child's mercury was wildly in the red without

corresponding improvements.

>

>

I looked around to see if I could find Andy's explanation for this

and I couldn't find it. It really doesn't make sense to me

that we cannot track excretion through the hair, at least for the

majority of our kids, during chelation.

I know that if the hair test meets the counting rules then you cannot

trust the toxic elements to be very accurate, but still wouldn't you

see trends of excretion, especially as hair tests normalize? Or does

Andy mean that you might be excreting through your hair, but that

doesn't mean you're excreting via urine and bm's?

I'm confused by this.

Anita

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Andy recommends observaton of behavior changes/reduction of symptoms over serial

hair testing.

S S

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> Also I am thinking Andy has said that hair tests are not a good way

to track excretion of metals. Sometimes the excretion shows up in

hair test and sometimes it doesn't. It did here and as Anita reported

it did for her but I have known others whose children recovered who

never saw it in their child's repeated hair tests. And I know of

several cases where the child's mercury was wildly in the red without

corresponding improvements.

>

>

I looked around to see if I could find Andy's explanation for this

and I couldn't find it. It really doesn't make sense to me

that we cannot track excretion through the hair, at least for the

majority of our kids, during chelation.

I know that if the hair test meets the counting rules then you cannot

trust the toxic elements to be very accurate, but still wouldn't you

see trends of excretion, especially as hair tests normalize? Or does

Andy mean that you might be excreting through your hair, but that

doesn't mean you're excreting via urine and bm's?

I'm confused by this.

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They're described in the FAQs of this list and in Andy's hairtesting book.

Basically, mercury rarely shows up as high on the hair test of a person with

chronic mercury toxicity, instead it causes disordered mineral transport. Andy

Cutler, PhD chemist, mercury poisoning survivor, author, developed the counting

rules to help determine if the minerals (essential elements like calcium, zinc,

potassium, etc) on a DDI hair elements test are disordered enough to indicate a

high probability of mercury toxicity.

S S

I have read about counting rules a few times, but I am not sure what

they are. Where can I find out more?

Thanks,

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For one thing hardly anyone tests the hair every month or two months and what

you are sending is just an inch so just the last two months. It's possible

someone could have wildly excreted a lot of metals the months you don't test. Am

I making any sense?

I have also heard this on the adult list that they don't necessarily see wild

elevations of mercury despite their improvement and ultimate recovery.

If we put that together with 's post maybe a positive hair test is

indicative of metal excretion but a negative hair test is not necessarily

indicative of no metal excretion? Isn't this just like a urine or fecal metal

test?

[ ] Re: ALA alone?

Equally confused here, Anita, but I tend to try to think of a hair

test as giving more insight into what has been mobilized rather than

what has been excreted. Might be wrong, or just might be more

conservative, but it does seem possible to me that you can show it in

the hair and not be doing a good job getting it out, really out.

That said, we have seen almost no mercury in my son's hair, despite

50 rounds AC style.

Anne

> >

> > Also I am thinking Andy has said that hair tests are not a good

way

> to track excretion of metals. Sometimes the excretion shows up in

> hair test and sometimes it doesn't. It did here and as Anita

reported

> it did for her but I have known others whose children recovered who

> never saw it in their child's repeated hair tests. And I know of

> several cases where the child's mercury was wildly in the red

without

> corresponding improvements.

> >

> >

>

> I looked around to see if I could find Andy's explanation for this

> and I couldn't find it. It really doesn't make sense to me

> that we cannot track excretion through the hair, at least for the

> majority of our kids, during chelation.

>

> I know that if the hair test meets the counting rules then you

cannot

> trust the toxic elements to be very accurate, but still wouldn't

you

> see trends of excretion, especially as hair tests normalize? Or

does

> Andy mean that you might be excreting through your hair, but that

> doesn't mean you're excreting via urine and bm's?

>

> I'm confused by this.

>

> Anita

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A question just occured to me Anne. Have you seen mercury in your

son's UTMs by any chance? As I said in my other response to this

thread, knowing that I've seen the metals in the more expensive and

harder to do UTMs and UFMs I have put some stock into the hair test

results. But, if I wasn't seeing that, then I'm not sure how much I

would value the hair test results because I agree: seeing it come

out of the hair doesn't mean necessarily that it would be coming out

of the urine and feces.

But, I also think that seeing improvements doesn't necessarily mean

that the metals are coming out either, so relying on that alone would

make me nervous too.

Does that make sense?

Anita

> > >

> > > Also I am thinking Andy has said that hair tests are not a good

> way

> > to track excretion of metals. Sometimes the excretion shows up in

> > hair test and sometimes it doesn't. It did here and as Anita

> reported

> > it did for her but I have known others whose children recovered

who

> > never saw it in their child's repeated hair tests. And I know of

> > several cases where the child's mercury was wildly in the red

> without

> > corresponding improvements.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I looked around to see if I could find Andy's explanation for

this

> > and I couldn't find it. It really doesn't make sense to

me

> > that we cannot track excretion through the hair, at least for the

> > majority of our kids, during chelation.

> >

> > I know that if the hair test meets the counting rules then you

> cannot

> > trust the toxic elements to be very accurate, but still wouldn't

> you

> > see trends of excretion, especially as hair tests normalize? Or

> does

> > Andy mean that you might be excreting through your hair, but that

> > doesn't mean you're excreting via urine and bm's?

> >

> > I'm confused by this.

> >

> > Anita

> >

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But, I also think that seeing improvements doesn't necessarily mean

that the metals are coming out either, so relying on that alone would

make me nervous too.

<<<I have heard Dr. McCandless say that she has had kids recover without ever

seeing anything at all metal wise being excreted. Course that doesn't mean the

metals weren't being excreted just that they never caught them. It can be

difficult to catch them. And it's true especially in the beginning that you can

get improvements just from the higher cysteine value of the chelators...I'm

pretty sure that is what was happening here.

Thinking the value of improvements would give some assurance you were pointing

yourself in the right direction.

Having said all that it's also true that yeast or gut problems can mask any

kind of improvement and you're right in thinking there is a great connection

between what is going on with the gut and the brain. I'm a great believer in the

majority of cases that the mother knows best what is going on and what needs to

be done.

Does that make sense?

Anita

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> > > Also I am thinking Andy has said that hair tests are not a good

> way

> > to track excretion of metals. Sometimes the excretion shows up in

> > hair test and sometimes it doesn't. It did here and as Anita

> reported

> > it did for her but I have known others whose children recovered

who

> > never saw it in their child's repeated hair tests. And I know of

> > several cases where the child's mercury was wildly in the red

> without

> > corresponding improvements.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I looked around to see if I could find Andy's explanation for

this

> > and I couldn't find it. It really doesn't make sense to

me

> > that we cannot track excretion through the hair, at least for the

> > majority of our kids, during chelation.

> >

> > I know that if the hair test meets the counting rules then you

> cannot

> > trust the toxic elements to be very accurate, but still wouldn't

> you

> > see trends of excretion, especially as hair tests normalize? Or

> does

> > Andy mean that you might be excreting through your hair, but that

> > doesn't mean you're excreting via urine and bm's?

> >

> > I'm confused by this.

> >

> > Anita

> >

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> I know this is probably something elementary, but I wanted to know if

> ALA can be given alone, or with DMSA only? Is there advantages to

> either? Both?

>

> Thanks,

> Aliza

>

ALA can be used alone. DMSA or DMPS can sometimes be helpful to

reduce symptoms. Also, if other metals are present at toxic levels,

DMSA or DMPS may be needed to help with another metal. For example,

DMSA is important if there is a lead problem.

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ALA alone?

Posted by: " alizaratterree " alizaratterree@... alizaratterree

Thu Aug 2, 2007 11:49 am (PST)

I know this is probably something elementary, but I wanted to know if

ALA can be given alone,

*Yes, but if the individual is lead toxic you'll probably need to

add DMSA at some point.

or with DMSA only?

*Either as long as the individual has NO mercury amalgam dental fillings.

Is there advantages to

either? Both?

*ALA chelates mercury from the body and brain and chelates arsenic. DMSA

chelates mercury from the body and chelates lead.

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> I know this is probably something elementary, but I wanted to know if

> ALA can be given alone, or with DMSA only? Is there advantages to

> either? Both?

I chelated all my kids, and now myself, with ALA alone.

Dana

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> > I know this is probably something elementary, but I wanted to know if

> > ALA can be given alone, or with DMSA only? Is there advantages to

> > either? Both?

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> I chelated all my kids, and now myself, with ALA alone.

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> Dana

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Hi, Dana. Did you have any concerns that body mercury might have been

pulled into the brain by using only ALA? And how does one know if it

has been? I've been chelating a while and want to add ALA but have

this concern. Thanks.

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