Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 We use Allergy Research Nutricology Adrenal Cortex Extract. This is more potent and works better than just adrenal glandular according to Andy. We buy it from Iherb.com It is bovine but from organically raised Bovines in New Zealand. Probably far safer than any synthetic prescription that a doctor won't give you to fix your adrenals. You can also order adrenal glandular from Nutri-Meds but it cost more. They may have a porcine version if your worried about cows. As best as my research shows...it is safe enough. Safer than eating the meat in the store. Does it work? Yes. It has worked wonders in my house on three people. I take it, my 11 year old and my 4 year old are using it. > > Hi Jan > What dose and brand should i choose for the adrenal cortex extract. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 It sounds like you got a TEI hair test which is of very limited utlity for children. Often they are right about the adrenal issues, and it is relatively safe to just try some adrenal cortex extract. Andy > > Hi to all; > My grandson had a hair test done about 2 months ago, and they reported > back that he could have adrenal and thyroid problems and it could be > sublingual hypothyroidism and could lead to hypothyroidism .they said > he has a slow metabolism rate. Do you think he could benefit from using > adrenal cortex extract? Sometimes I beleive this is what he has. they > say you can only tell sublingual hypothyroidism by body > temperature.Could you please give me any info about the adrenal cortex > and if he should take it? Thanks so much. Joyce > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 You can try here http://www.thewayup.com/products/0076.cfm Or here http://www.thewayup.com/products/0076.cfm Probably many more sources, but these were the easiest to find. HTH Amy stemcellsugars3 <joyce.beck@...> wrote: Hi; Could you please tell me where to purchase adrenal cortex extract? I tried i-herb.com, but could not find it there.Thanks if you can help. --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 I think a sublingual of any sort works well if a child can do it. My guess is that many kids can't, particularly autistic kids. We have good success with the capsules (opened) using this brand: http://www.vitacost.com/NutriCologyOrganicAdrenalCortex Anita > > Hi All; > Could you tell me what is the best adrenal cortex extract to take, the > sublingual or other? Thanks to all > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 > > Could you please tell me where to purchase adrenal cortex extract? I > tried i-herb.com, but could not find it there.Thanks if you can help. This is what we use: http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs & pid=ARG-50530 It is confusing because they just say " adrenal cortex " and don't say extract. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2007 Report Share Posted March 7, 2007 Okay, I am having a heck of a time finding this with the word EXTRACT on the label. Is this made from the glands or the tissue or that the same thing?? Is this it? http://www.aor.ca/int/products/adrenal.php Thanks, Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I am using it for all three of us. Two NT and one not. How I can tell it's working is you will see the symptoms go away within a day or two of starting it. For us those symptoms were sensitivity to light and sound, and people touching you, irritablility, a tendency to over react to everything, moodiness, and insomnia with fatigue. I began at one capsule in the am for myself and my 100 pd kid. After a few weeks we added a second cap around 3 pm. We were able to stay at that amount and did not have to go higher. You can tell you need more when you notice the effects of the first cap wearing off by 4 pm, then you know you need to add a second dose. Some people do need more caps per day and work up to taking 2 in am and 2 in afternoon, or more. Whatever it is they need to control the symptoms. I found that this stuff replaced any need for antidepresants to control anxiety in myself. My son who is smaller (40 pds) uses a 1/4 cap in the morning. It can fluctuate a bit, per say following a round for a few days I find I benefit from adding my second dose back in. I normally take one cap in the morning, since beginning progesterone cream I do not need the second one. Unless, as I said those few days following a round when I am a bit keyed up, and moody. My son's first hair test did not show adrenals, but his second one did. You can dx it by symptoms alone also. Here are some self testing: (the flash light is the easiest) TEST ONE: To test adrenal function, take and compare two blood pressure readings-one while lying down and one while standing. Rest for five minutes in recumbent position (lying down) before taking the reading. Stand up and immediately take the blood pressure again. if the blood pressure is lower after standing, suspect reduced adrenal gland function. The degree to which the blood pressure drops while standing is often proportionate to the degree of hypoadrenalism. (Normal adrenal function will elevate your BP on the standing reading in order to push blood to the brain.) TEST TWO: Another test uses the eyes. Shine a bright light (like a flashlight) or penlight in your eyes from the side and hold it there for about a minute. Carefully observe the pupil. In adrenal fatigue it will get small and then after a while it will enlarge again or sort of flutter in it's attempt to stay constricted. In a healthy person, shining a light in their eyes causes the pupil to constrict and stay that way as long as it is there. TEST THREE: Are you very sensitive to bright light? That could be a sign of adrenal fatigue. TEST FOUR: You can determine if you need more adrenal support by following Dr Rind with a temperature graph. You simply have to take your temp 3-4 times a day and make a chart. If your temp is fluctuating you need more adrenal support. If it is fluctuating but overall low, you need more adrenal support and thyroid. If it is fluctuating but averaging 98.6, you just need adrenal support. If it is steady but low, you need more thyroid and adrenals are likely fine. So for us this supplement has been essential and kept us away from illknowing shrinks or docs who love SSR meds. Calmed my kids down, helped with their oversensitivities. > > > > Id like to get a little input from you guys that have either used ACE > or are currently supplementing. Could you please share the dose you > ended up / started with and a bit of your experience so far. Based > on most of the suggestions we ended up ordering Organic Adrenal > Cortex -- 100 Caps 250 Mg from NutriCology. > > From past discussions it seems as if my son may benefit from this as > he shows signs of adrenal fatigue. On the other hand based on a few > posts as far as what > to look for in hair tests (see below) want to know if this is > correct? > > Than his last 2 hairs tests DOES NOT indicate that, in fact last 2 > tests and after #90 rounds he no longer meets the counting Alltho > again he has always had some soft sights of over worked adrenals. > Are their other patterns to look at in hair tests? And last Question > how can I tell if ACE is working? > > Thanks for any info > As always my best > Kenny v > > > >>>Usually cal/mag go in one direction and pot/sodium go in the > opposite direction. > The farther apart the outermost lines are from one another, the more > stressed > the adrenals. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 > TEST FOUR: > > You can determine if you need more adrenal support by following Dr > Rind with a temperature graph. You simply have to take your temp 3-4 > times a day and make a chart. If your temp is fluctuating you need > more adrenal support. If it is fluctuating but overall low, you need > more adrenal support and thyroid. If it is fluctuating but averaging > 98.6, you just need adrenal support. If it is steady but low, you > need more thyroid and adrenals are likely fine. Absoolutely steady is not a meaningful criterion. + or - X amount is a meaningful criterion. Would you happen to have this information? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 We had/have absolutely steady temperatures and just recently encountered an increase in anxiety, necessitating increasing the ACE. I was taught that normal temps do fluctuate somewhat. They start out low, before you get up, rise quickly to normal, then peak at about 2 pm to 99.0 and then fall slowly until they are at about 98.0 near bedtime. And after religiously taking both her and my temperatures that is what I find happens so either we're both a little off (distinct possibility) or this is the way it's supposed to be. [ ] Re: Adrenal Cortex Extract > TEST FOUR: > > You can determine if you need more adrenal support by following Dr > Rind with a temperature graph. You simply have to take your temp 3-4 > times a day and make a chart. If your temp is fluctuating you need > more adrenal support. If it is fluctuating but overall low, you need > more adrenal support and thyroid. If it is fluctuating but averaging > 98.6, you just need adrenal support. If it is steady but low, you > need more thyroid and adrenals are likely fine. Absoolutely steady is not a meaningful criterion. + or - X amount is a meaningful criterion. Would you happen to have this information? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 > > Here are some self testing: (the flash light is the easiest) > TEST ONE: > > To test adrenal function, take and compare two blood pressure > readings-one while lying down and one while standing. Rest for five > minutes in recumbent position (lying down) before taking the > reading. Stand up and immediately take the blood pressure again. if > the blood pressure is lower after standing, suspect reduced adrenal > gland function. The degree to which the blood pressure drops while > standing is often proportionate to the degree of hypoadrenalism. > > (Normal adrenal function will elevate your BP on the standing > reading in order to push blood to the brain.) > > TEST TWO: > > Another test uses the eyes. Shine a bright light (like a flashlight) > or penlight in your eyes from the side and hold it there for about a > minute. Carefully observe the pupil. In adrenal fatigue it will get > small and then after a while it will enlarge again or sort of > flutter in it's attempt to stay constricted. In a healthy person, > shining a light in their eyes causes the pupil to constrict and stay > that way as long as it is there. > > TEST THREE: > > Are you very sensitive to bright light? That could be a sign of > adrenal fatigue. > > TEST FOUR: > > You can determine if you need more adrenal support by following Dr > Rind with a temperature graph. You simply have to take your temp 3-4 > times a day and make a chart. If your temp is fluctuating you need > more adrenal support. If it is fluctuating but overall low, you need > more adrenal support and thyroid. If it is fluctuating but averaging > 98.6, you just need adrenal support. If it is steady but low, you > need more thyroid and adrenals are likely fine. > > > Yes the flashlight seems to be a good check indicator. My son definitely has failed that one which made me suspect more of the adrenal issues but I would like to cross check this with other means. Jan as far as temp tests you mentioned. If it is fluctuating but averaging 98.6, you just need adrenal support. Not sure what Andy meant but I think he was referring to getting that actual fluctuation number to determine test accuracy. I hope someone comes up with the full explanation because from what I have read so far it is normal for a temp to fluctuate as much as One whole degree throughout the day. I think we are awaiting the correct + or - deviation to determine this. Right? Perhaps we may find out what is the temperature criteria in reading temp to determine adrenal issues? thanks kenny v Below is exert that discuses what is normal body temperature Most people think of a " normal " body temperature as an oral temperature of 98.6 F. this is an average of normal body temperatures. Your temperature may actually be 1°F (0.6°C) or more above or below 98.6 F. Also, your normal body temperature changes by as much as 1°F (0.6°C) throughout the day, depending on how active you are and the time of day. Body temperature is very sensitive to hormone levels and may be higher or lower when a woman is ovulating or having her menstrual period. A rectal or ear (tympanic membrane) temperature reading is 0.5 to 1°F (0.3 to 0.6 °C) higher than an oral temperature reading. A temperature taken in the armpit is 0.5 to 1°F (0.3 to 0.6 °C) lower than an oral temperature reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 > > TEST FOUR: > > > > You can determine if you need more adrenal support by following Dr > > Rind with a temperature graph. You simply have to take your temp 3-4 > > times a day and make a chart. If your temp is fluctuating you need > > more adrenal support. If it is fluctuating but overall low, you need > > more adrenal support and thyroid. If it is fluctuating but averaging > > 98.6, you just need adrenal support. If it is steady but low, you > > need more thyroid and adrenals are likely fine. > > > Absoolutely steady is not a meaningful criterion. > > + or - X amount is a meaningful criterion. > > Would you happen to have this information? > I think it comes from stopthethyroidmadness. Not sure where they got it. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/ > Andy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I have seen this in the NaturalThyroidHarmones group, in the Files section(Adrenal Self Tests). Madhuri > > > TEST FOUR: > > > > You can determine if you need more adrenal support by following Dr > > Rind with a temperature graph. You simply have to take your temp 3-4 > > times a day and make a chart. If your temp is fluctuating you need > > more adrenal support. If it is fluctuating but overall low, you need > > more adrenal support and thyroid. If it is fluctuating but averaging > > 98.6, you just need adrenal support. If it is steady but low, you > > need more thyroid and adrenals are likely fine. > > Absoolutely steady is not a meaningful criterion. > > + or - X amount is a meaningful criterion. > > Would you happen to have this information? > > Andy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 We would like to move forward so getting a little input from you guys that have either used ACE or are currently supplementing would be helpful before implementing. Could you please share the dose you ended up / started with and a bit of your experience so far? Based on what I have read, (not sure) my son has adrenal issues as basic to look for tests don't indicate but still suspect them. His last 2 hairs tests DOES NOT indicate that, in fact last 2 tests #40 rounds including after #90 rounds he no longer meets the counting rules. In fact all of his essential elements are quite impressive . We are in a bit of a stall right now lack of focus/ attention and slowed progress so im thinking to try ACE. So guess my Q is once we give it a whirl what signs should I look for and How can I tell if its working? Thanks for any info As always my best Kenny v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Hi Kenny, If you go to http://www.onibasu.com Jan has written several excellent, detailed posts of ACE, the dosage, and how to introduce the supplement. One of these posts couldn't have been more than 3-4 days ago. I'm sure you will find them helpful. Good luck, [ ] Re: Adrenal Cortex Extract We would like to move forward so getting a little input from you guys that have either used ACE or are currently supplementing would be helpful before implementing. Could you please share the dose you ended up / started with and a bit of your experience so far? Based on what I have read, (not sure) my son has adrenal issues as basic to look for tests don't indicate but still suspect them. His last 2 hairs tests DOES NOT indicate that, in fact last 2 tests #40 rounds including after #90 rounds he no longer meets the counting rules. In fact all of his essential elements are quite impressive . We are in a bit of a stall right now lack of focus/ attention and slowed progress so im thinking to try ACE. So guess my Q is once we give it a whirl what signs should I look for and How can I tell if its working? Thanks for any info As always my best Kenny v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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