Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 If you read nothing else, see what Dr. Yang says in item E further down in the email. I'm sure you can Google her and call if you want more info. This is not my opinion, this is what I and others are experiencing. Clay is not a chelator, it is an excretion support. The skin is the largest excretion organ of the body and when the other organs are overloaded it is a good way to get toxins flowing out in the sweat. My doctor had a client who did DAILY urine and fecal metals test while using various chelators on two family members. With and without clay. Over time he determined that two chelators were best and that combined with the clay, they pulled 3 times the metals. He is a scientist, and also very well off obviously to afford all that testing. I have seen the FIR sauna comments and again, my doctor says the infrared is too harsh and not safe. She recommended we get a steam sauna, and it is a hard resin material not WOOD that will soak up the sweat with metals and then outgas the metals right back up your nose and in your brain forever. Miners who dug heavy metals ores used steam baths to detox for many years. When their sweat was tested, it was very toxic. Obviously more needs to be done that just sweat, but this illustrates the skin as a viable excretion route. We can tell the difference in our son's behavior and skin when he is overloaded, and after he takes a hot clay bath. Believe it or not. And we are getting mercury out, and his exposure was documented as in utero. So that's as tightly bound as mercury gets. I have a lot of respect for Andy and love his posts and the way he freely shares his knowledge, but I have to say we keep a giant bucket of clay here all the time for baths and our lives are so much better for it. gets very hard to handle when he is chelating and gets overloaded. We are glad to have a way to assist his excretion safely and have peace around the house while still making progress. Here is the other doctor who has tracked the results of the clay in her practice. I do not know her, but my doctor does and they have gotten the same results if the clay is used properly. Statement by Dr. Miriam Jang, MD on LL's Magnetic Clay Dr. Miriam Jang is a DAN (Defeat Autism Now) doctor in San , California. She posted this statement on her web site www.miriamjangmd.com. " I have some very exciting news about the use of particular magnetic clay that I am doing a study on that seems to be even better than the TD DMPS in chelation. Please note that I do not get any kick-backs from any of these products that I recommend. Apparently this clay bath does not add metals to your child which some of the clays can. So far, I have put a huge number of patients on these clay baths and the levels of the heavy metals: mercury, lead, arsenic, aluminum and cadmium have come down dramatically. I follow the progress with 6 hour DMSA challenge urine tests from Doctor's Data. One particular patient had very high levels of mercury and levels of lead that were off the charts. In 3 months of twice weekly clay baths, the lead came down dramatically and the mercury disappeared. The muscle weakness associated with high lead levels improved dramatically. Interestingly enough, another 5 months of these clay baths showed even lower levels of lead but the mercury reappeared. This supports the theory that mercury is sequestered in different areas of our body and it takes time to get it all out. The advantages of clay baths over TD DMPS and oral DMSA are: a) Almost zero side effects except drying of the skin which can be alleviated by a good moisturizer. You see, even though the TD DMPS is applied over the skin instead of ingested orally, there is still absorption of sulfur which feeds the yeast and bad bacteria in the gut so that you can still have bad behaviours from the TD DMPS. I have quite a few patients that needed to go on antifungals because of the TD DMPS. By the way, if your child is on TD DMPS and is irritable or hyper, please try adding lipoceutical glutathione. This has helped quite a few kids. No stress on the liver: clay baths do not elevate the liver enzymes, one less thing to worry about! c) Cost: these clay baths are about $50 for 10-12 baths, compared to $150-$160 a bottle for TD DMPS or $95-$100 a bottle for DMSA. d) Ease of administration: It is dissolving a cup of powder clay in the bath and soaking for 15-30 minutes, twice a week. Most of our sweet Autistic kids love the bath anyway, so it really is not a bad way to get rid of metals e) Faster results: I have been monitoring the levels of metals using all 3 methods and the clay baths are way faster in the removal of metals. f) Covers a wider spectrum of metals: For instance, DMSA and TD DMPS do not remove aluminum or nickel well. There are specific clay baths that handle these metals. In addition, there is a clay bath for environmental toxins so that we can start detoxifying some of the chemicals that also accumulate in our kids. P.S. I advocate the whole family doing these baths since we all have some accumulation. " ================== I am not shilling for the clay, and these are facts you may not have heard. No one has tested 400 people and done a double blind study and all that. I wish someone would so people would not dismiss this excretion aid out of hand. And I am getting mercury out of my son when all said it would be impossible, with the help of our wonderful doctor. And our son is so calm and cognitive and sleeping well and singing and talking more slowly but surely. Four years ago I would have given anything to sing a song with my boy and now we sing every day. Singing is easier than talking for him. Our lives are as close to normal as they have been since this all started 5 years ago. So not all is known in this world yet and some things work if you do it right. Getting it right is the hard part. Ludwig Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work. - Aristotle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hi , I am using the LL clays just in a footsoak towards the end of chelation rounds, it helps get rid of the " itch " on the soles of my feet - I figure it is doing a similar job to the foot-patches, and my feet come out really clean too!! Makes my clay last way longer too. na > > If you read nothing else, see what Dr. Yang says in item E further > down in the email. I'm sure you can Google her and call if you want > more info. This is not my opinion, this is what I and others are > experiencing. > > Clay is not a chelator, it is an excretion support. The skin is the > largest excretion organ of the body and when the other organs are > overloaded it is a good way to get toxins flowing out in the sweat. > My doctor had a client who did DAILY urine and fecal metals test > while using various chelators on two family members. With and without > clay. Over time he determined that two chelators were best and that > combined with the clay, they pulled 3 times the metals. He is a > scientist, and also very well off obviously to afford all that testing. > > I have seen the FIR sauna comments and again, my doctor says the > infrared is too harsh and not safe. She recommended we get a steam > sauna, and it is a hard resin material not WOOD that will soak up the > sweat with metals and then outgas the metals right back up your nose > and in your brain forever. Miners who dug heavy metals ores used > steam baths to detox for many years. When their sweat was tested, it > was very toxic. Obviously more needs to be done that just sweat, but > this illustrates the skin as a viable excretion route. > > We can tell the difference in our son's behavior and skin when he is > overloaded, and after he takes a hot clay bath. Believe it or not. > And we are getting mercury out, and his exposure was documented as in > utero. So that's as tightly bound as mercury gets. I have a lot of > respect for Andy and love his posts and the way he freely shares his > knowledge, but I have to say we keep a giant bucket of clay here all > the time for baths and our lives are so much better for it. gets > very hard to handle when he is chelating and gets overloaded. We are > glad to have a way to assist his excretion safely and have peace > around the house while still making progress. > > Here is the other doctor who has tracked the results of the clay in > her practice. I do not know her, but my doctor does and they have > gotten the same results if the clay is used properly. > > Statement by Dr. Miriam Jang, MD on LL's Magnetic Clay > Dr. Miriam Jang is a DAN (Defeat Autism Now) doctor in San , > California. She posted this statement on her web site > www.miriamjangmd.com. > > " I have some very exciting news about the use of particular magnetic > clay that I am doing a study on that seems to be even better than the > TD DMPS in chelation. Please note that I do not get any kick- backs > from any of these products that I recommend. Apparently this clay > bath does not add metals to your child which some of the clays can. > So far, I have put a huge number of patients on these clay baths and > the levels of the heavy metals: mercury, lead, arsenic, aluminum and > cadmium have come down dramatically. I follow the progress with 6 > hour DMSA challenge urine tests from Doctor's Data. > > One particular patient had very high levels of mercury and levels of > lead that were off the charts. In 3 months of twice weekly clay > baths, the lead came down dramatically and the mercury disappeared. > The muscle weakness associated with high lead levels improved > dramatically. Interestingly enough, another 5 months of these clay > baths showed even lower levels of lead but the mercury reappeared. > This supports the theory that mercury is sequestered in different > areas of our body and it takes time to get it all out. > > The advantages of clay baths over TD DMPS and oral DMSA are: > > a) Almost zero side effects except drying of the skin which can be > alleviated by a good moisturizer. You see, even though the TD DMPS is > applied over the skin instead of ingested orally, there is still > absorption of sulfur which feeds the yeast and bad bacteria in the > gut so that you can still have bad behaviours from the TD DMPS. I > have quite a few patients that needed to go on antifungals because of > the TD DMPS. By the way, if your child is on TD DMPS and is irritable > or hyper, please try adding lipoceutical glutathione. This has helped > quite a few kids. > No stress on the liver: clay baths do not elevate the liver > enzymes, one less thing to worry about! > c) Cost: these clay baths are about $50 for 10-12 baths, compared to > $150-$160 a bottle for TD DMPS or $95-$100 a bottle for DMSA. > d) Ease of administration: It is dissolving a cup of powder clay in > the bath and soaking for 15-30 minutes, twice a week. Most of our > sweet Autistic kids love the bath anyway, so it really is not a bad > way to get rid of metals > e) Faster results: I have been monitoring the levels of metals using > all 3 methods and the clay baths are way faster in the removal of > metals. > f) Covers a wider spectrum of metals: For instance, DMSA and TD DMPS > do not remove aluminum or nickel well. There are specific clay baths > that handle these metals. In addition, there is a clay bath for > environmental toxins so that we can start detoxifying some of the > chemicals that also accumulate in our kids. > > P.S. I advocate the whole family doing these baths since we all have > some accumulation. " > ================== > I am not shilling for the clay, and these are facts you may not have > heard. No one has tested 400 people and done a double blind study and > all that. I wish someone would so people would not dismiss this > excretion aid out of hand. > > And I am getting mercury out of my son when all said it would be > impossible, with the help of our wonderful doctor. And our son is so > calm and cognitive and sleeping well and singing and talking more > slowly but surely. Four years ago I would have given anything to sing > a song with my boy and now we sing every day. Singing is easier than > talking for him. Our lives are as close to normal as they have been > since this all started 5 years ago. So not all is known in this world > yet and some things work if you do it right. Getting it right is the > hard part. > > > Ludwig > > > Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work. > - Aristotle > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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