Re: Thyroid lab results and questions

[Guest guest]

, just a quick note as I am getting ready to leave, but healing adrenals

takes YEARS literally, a long, long time. Isocort is not appropriate for kids,

IMO, keep at the ACE and the B5, C, B2 and B6.

[ ] Thyroid lab results and questions

Abigail(7yrs, 34lbs) 60mgs Armour 2xday

test/result/rr

TSH/<0.010/0.318-5.903uIU/mL

FT4/1.61/0.61-1.12ng/dl

FT3/344/282-518pg/dL

TT3/127/53-171 ng/dL

Isaac (5yrs, 32lbs) 60mgs Armour 2xday

TSH/0.030/0.318-5.903uIU/mL

FT4/1.24/0.61-1.12ng/dl

FT3/369/282-513 pg/dL

TT3/139/59-177ng/dL

me 90mg Armour am, 60mg pm. 12.5mcg cytomel x3, 9 Isocort

TSH/0.020/0.318-5.903 uIU/mL

FT4/1.01/0.61-1.12ng/dl

FT3/315/210-440pg/dL

TT3/113/65-164ng/dL

It appears that they have they same trouble converting T4 to T3 as I

did. Even after I added cytomel labs didn't improve and I didn't

feel better until I added the Isocort. I have reduced the kids

Armour by 30mgs. Any other suggestions on their labs? Does their

FT3 need to be higher?

Dr. Usman agreed to do a full endo work-up on the kids and adrenal

testing. She asked me to look into finding a good lab that has

pediatric RR for saliva testing. The kids have not improved w/

ACE/B5/sea salt for adrenals (neither did I until Isocort). Dr.

Usman mentioned ZRT or Great Smokies for the saliva testing. Does

anyone know if they have proper RR? Anyone done this with their

children? Any good labs? I am so happy to finally have an MD that

will look at this with me and want to make sure we aren't wasting

our time with the wrone labs. Thanks in advance. Feel free to email

me privately.

[Guest guest]

We are having some of the same conversion issues (T4 to T3). We had

one draw where the conversion was happening well, and that was when

my kid was eating a ton of brazil nuts (high in selenium). Our last

draw was down a bit, fine by the lab's reference range, but not by

Andy's recommendations. During this time my kiddo was not doing the

brazil nut thing. I have increased his selenium (he won't touch

brazil nuts anymore) to see if this will address it. Are you

supplementing selenium? If so, how much?

Anne

>

> , just a quick note as I am getting ready to leave, but

healing adrenals takes YEARS literally, a long, long time. Isocort is

not appropriate for kids, IMO, keep at the ACE and the B5, C, B2 and

B6.

>

>

>

> [ ] Thyroid lab results and questions

>

>

> Abigail(7yrs, 34lbs) 60mgs Armour 2xday

> test/result/rr

> TSH/<0.010/0.318-5.903uIU/mL

> FT4/1.61/0.61-1.12ng/dl

> FT3/344/282-518pg/dL

> TT3/127/53-171 ng/dL

>

> Isaac (5yrs, 32lbs) 60mgs Armour 2xday

> TSH/0.030/0.318-5.903uIU/mL

> FT4/1.24/0.61-1.12ng/dl

> FT3/369/282-513 pg/dL

> TT3/139/59-177ng/dL

>

> me 90mg Armour am, 60mg pm. 12.5mcg cytomel x3, 9 Isocort

> TSH/0.020/0.318-5.903 uIU/mL

> FT4/1.01/0.61-1.12ng/dl

> FT3/315/210-440pg/dL

> TT3/113/65-164ng/dL

>

> It appears that they have they same trouble converting T4 to T3

as I

> did. Even after I added cytomel labs didn't improve and I didn't

> feel better until I added the Isocort. I have reduced the kids

> Armour by 30mgs. Any other suggestions on their labs? Does their

> FT3 need to be higher?

>

> Dr. Usman agreed to do a full endo work-up on the kids and

adrenal

> testing. She asked me to look into finding a good lab that has

> pediatric RR for saliva testing. The kids have not improved w/

> ACE/B5/sea salt for adrenals (neither did I until Isocort). Dr.

> Usman mentioned ZRT or Great Smokies for the saliva testing. Does

> anyone know if they have proper RR? Anyone done this with their

> children? Any good labs? I am so happy to finally have an MD that

> will look at this with me and want to make sure we aren't wasting

> our time with the wrone labs. Thanks in advance. Feel free to

email

> me privately.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Have you tried licorice? Could be helpful with gut

problems/dysbiosis/inflammation, as well as adrenals.

Also what about phos serine? Both this and the licorice

can help with the feedback to the brain and normalizing

adrenal levels.

Another thing that might be worth a try is acupuncture.

Don't know where you are, but I know an acupuncturist in

San , CA who knows a good bit about thyroid (which is

unusual for an acupuncturist), and also about adrenals.

(Not sure if she treats kids.)

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> >

> > , just a quick note as I am getting ready to leave, but

> healing adrenals takes YEARS literally, a long, long time. Isocort

> is not appropriate for kids, IMO, keep at the ACE and the B5, C, B2

> and B6.

> >

> >

> >

> > [ ] Thyroid lab results and questions

> >

> >

> > Abigail(7yrs, 34lbs) 60mgs Armour 2xday

> > test/result/rr

> > TSH/<0.010/0.318-5.903uIU/mL

> > FT4/1.61/0.61-1.12ng/dl

> > FT3/344/282-518pg/dL

> > TT3/127/53-171 ng/dL

> >

> > Isaac (5yrs, 32lbs) 60mgs Armour 2xday

> > TSH/0.030/0.318-5.903uIU/mL

> > FT4/1.24/0.61-1.12ng/dl

> > FT3/369/282-513 pg/dL

> > TT3/139/59-177ng/dL

> >

> > me 90mg Armour am, 60mg pm. 12.5mcg cytomel x3, 9 Isocort

> > TSH/0.020/0.318-5.903 uIU/mL

> > FT4/1.01/0.61-1.12ng/dl

> > FT3/315/210-440pg/dL

> > TT3/113/65-164ng/dL

> >

> > It appears that they have they same trouble converting T4 to T3

> as I

> > did. Even after I added cytomel labs didn't improve and I didn't

> > feel better until I added the Isocort. I have reduced the kids

> > Armour by 30mgs. Any other suggestions on their labs? Does their

> > FT3 need to be higher?

> >

> > Dr. Usman agreed to do a full endo work-up on the kids and

> adrenal

> > testing. She asked me to look into finding a good lab that has

> > pediatric RR for saliva testing. The kids have not improved w/

> > ACE/B5/sea salt for adrenals (neither did I until Isocort). Dr.

> > Usman mentioned ZRT or Great Smokies for the saliva testing.

> Does

> > anyone know if they have proper RR? Anyone done this with their

> > children? Any good labs? I am so happy to finally have an MD

> that

> > will look at this with me and want to make sure we aren't

> wasting

> > our time with the wrone labs. Thanks in advance. Feel free to

> email

> > me privately.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Why is this (adrenals,thyroid) unusual to know for acupunctist?

Dr. Ross Ralph Dr.TCM

[ ] Thyroid lab results and questions

> >

> >

> > Abigail(7yrs, 34lbs) 60mgs Armour 2xday

> > test/result/rr

> > TSH/<0.010/0.318-5.903uIU/mL

> > FT4/1.61/0.61-1.12ng/dl

> > FT3/344/282-518pg/dL

> > TT3/127/53-171 ng/dL

> >

> > Isaac (5yrs, 32lbs) 60mgs Armour 2xday

> > TSH/0.030/0.318-5.903uIU/mL

> > FT4/1.24/0.61-1.12ng/dl

> > FT3/369/282-513 pg/dL

> > TT3/139/59-177ng/dL

> >

> > me 90mg Armour am, 60mg pm. 12.5mcg cytomel x3, 9 Isocort

> > TSH/0.020/0.318-5.903 uIU/mL

> > FT4/1.01/0.61-1.12ng/dl

> > FT3/315/210-440pg/dL

> > TT3/113/65-164ng/dL

> >

> > It appears that they have they same trouble converting T4 to T3

> as I

> > did. Even after I added cytomel labs didn't improve and I didn't

> > feel better until I added the Isocort. I have reduced the kids

> > Armour by 30mgs. Any other suggestions on their labs? Does their

> > FT3 need to be higher?

> >

> > Dr. Usman agreed to do a full endo work-up on the kids and

> adrenal

> > testing. She asked me to look into finding a good lab that has

> > pediatric RR for saliva testing. The kids have not improved w/

> > ACE/B5/sea salt for adrenals (neither did I until Isocort). Dr.

> > Usman mentioned ZRT or Great Smokies for the saliva testing.

> Does

> > anyone know if they have proper RR? Anyone done this with their

> > children? Any good labs? I am so happy to finally have an MD

> that

> > will look at this with me and want to make sure we aren't

> wasting

> > our time with the wrone labs. Thanks in advance. Feel free to

> email

> > me privately.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, we already use coconut oil in all my cooking as well

as supplementing VCO. I do believe it helps their thyroid issues,

but doesn't appear to help w/ adrenals or weight issues.

>

> > As for adrenal support, I have found that 's B2, B5 and

B6,

> > with C, given very frequently, is what seems to work best here.

>

>

>

> ,

>

> I have a vague recollection of a study I read that showed using

virgin

> coconut oil with the Bs normalized cortisol levels pretty

quickly. It

> is very easy to get coconut oil into the diet if your kids aren't

> allergic.

>

> Anita

>