thyroid levels, armour, and trying to conceive

[Guest guest]

Two years ago, I switched from synthetic thyroid hormone to Armour.

I take 60 mg Armour, twice daily.

The following are my recent Quest lab results:

T-3 uptake 33 (22-35%)

T-3, free 358 (230-420)

T-4, free 1.0 (0.8-1.8)

T-4 (thyroxine), total 5.7 (4.5-12.5)

Free T-4 Index 1.9 (1.4-3.8)

TSH 0.05 (0.40-5.50) *LOW-OUT OF RANGE*

Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies <10 (<35)

Thyroglobulin Antibodies 20 (<20) *HIGH-OUT OF RANGE*

Thyroglobulin 13.4 (2.0-35.0)

I never have had any symptoms associated with hypothyroidism. My

hypothyroidism was diagnosed at age 20 during a routine physical

(soon after receiving my first amalgams).

We've been trying to conceive # 3 for four months without success,

though timing has definitely been at least part of the problem. (We

are trying for a girl using " Taking Charge of Your Fertility " , and it

is a bit difficult to predict the right timing.). But, I am

unfortunately over that magical age of 35, making me old in the

pregnancy world.

Today, I saw a " holistic " gynecologist who actually doesn't seem

holistic at all. She said that my thyroid condition is autoimmune

(thus the high thyroglubulin antibodies) and that I therefore should

be using synthetic T-4 only rather than Armour. She said that my TSH

is part of why I have not conceived. She also said that using Armour

in pregnancy rather than T-4 would cause developmental issues in my

baby!!! She wants me to switch to Synthroid for 60 days before

trying to conceive again! She says I cannot conceive now without

endangering my baby, and that I would likely miscarry anyway.

The doctor was surprised that I have a low (healthy) pulse and low

(healthy) blood pressure. With my TSH level, she expected cardiac

issues!

I also tested my FSH and E2 on day 3. If anyone here has experience

with that, I would love to discuss. My numbers seem very good, yet

this dr. is saying that I need to use meds to conceive. I'm not a

big fan of doing that.

All input is very much appreciated!

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

> Today, I saw a " holistic " gynecologist who actually doesn't seem

> holistic at all. She said that my thyroid condition is autoimmune

> (thus the high thyroglubulin antibodies) and that I therefore should

> be using synthetic T-4 only rather than Armour.

This is the usual lack of anything passing for ethics or integrity in the world

of licensed

health care professionals.

They just say anything they can think of to get you to do what they want without

any

regard for its truth or any feeling that they should actually have some

technical

understanding of what they're discussing.

Andy

[Guest guest]

I too have Hashimotos hypothyroidism and have been on full

replacement armour thyroid for 14 years. I simply told the Dr about

the research I had done on the Armour and told him I wanted that or I

would either find another MD or take nothing.( first try to make him

feel you really dont want to leave but you willl if necessary) These

Drs have been taught that they need to give you something for your

money when you leave (ie, prescription in hand) so they dont want you

to walk out empty handed. He will probably have a hissy fit, but it

usually works, ( I realize some times it may not) but it always works

for me) HTH Blessings Conrad

In , " andrewhallcutler "

<AndyCutler@...> wrote:

>

> > Today, I saw a " holistic " gynecologist who actually doesn't seem

> > holistic at all. She said that my thyroid condition is

autoimmune

> > (thus the high thyroglubulin antibodies) and that I therefore

should

> > be using synthetic T-4 only rather than Armour.

>

>

[Guest guest]

-Absolutely don't switch and find a new doctor. She's not holistic and

from what she said very condescending and threatening. The

Naturalthyroidhormone group may be useful to you (or

HormonesHealthNaturally). Also, low progesterone can cause problems

getting pregnant. How is your progesterone levels???

Armour will not hurt your baby..what a load of crap. What will hurt

your baby is having substandard levels of thyroid hormone from

synthetic T4 in your body. TSH is not relevant if your on therapy..all

it means is that your getting the hormones you need. TSH is only the

hormones your pituitary sends out to signal the thyroid to work. In

your case, not much is needed because your pituitary sees your thyroid

as working due to Armour. Your TSH if fine. Autoimmune thyroid

disease responds better to Armour..which will keep your immune system

from destroying what's left of your thyroid.

Low BP and Low pulse are signs of adrenal fatigue (bet she missed

this). Are you on support for adrenals? You may need to be because

your on Armour.

Also, for infertility issues, don't forget to check on dad's status,

make sure he is eating healthy and all that jazz.

And read Dr. Lee's book, what your doctor may not tell you about

perimenopause. This has a lot of info on problems getting pregnant.

I would run from this doctor...she is totally wrong. And to tell

someone they would miscarry for taking Armour..is just stupid and

being a bully. She is trying to scare you into doing things her way,

which is wrong.

-- In , " mom114425 " <JLJukoski@...> wrote:

>

> Two years ago, I switched from synthetic thyroid hormone to Armour.

> I take 60 mg Armour, twice daily.

>

> The following are my recent Quest lab results:

> T-3 uptake 33 (22-35%)

> T-3, free 358 (230-420)

> T-4, free 1.0 (0.8-1.8)

> T-4 (thyroxine), total 5.7 (4.5-12.5)

> Free T-4 Index 1.9 (1.4-3.8)

> TSH 0.05 (0.40-5.50) *LOW-OUT OF RANGE*

> Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies <10 (<35)

> Thyroglobulin Antibodies 20 (<20) *HIGH-OUT OF RANGE*

> Thyroglobulin 13.4 (2.0-35.0)

>

> I never have had any symptoms associated with hypothyroidism. My

> hypothyroidism was diagnosed at age 20 during a routine physical

> (soon after receiving my first amalgams).

>

> We've been trying to conceive # 3 for four months without success,

> though timing has definitely been at least part of the problem. (We

> are trying for a girl using " Taking Charge of Your Fertility " , and it

> is a bit difficult to predict the right timing.). But, I am

> unfortunately over that magical age of 35, making me old in the

> pregnancy world.

>

> Today, I saw a " holistic " gynecologist who actually doesn't seem

> holistic at all. She said that my thyroid condition is autoimmune

> (thus the high thyroglubulin antibodies) and that I therefore should

> be using synthetic T-4 only rather than Armour. She said that my TSH

> is part of why I have not conceived. She also said that using Armour

> in pregnancy rather than T-4 would cause developmental issues in my

> baby!!! She wants me to switch to Synthroid for 60 days before

> trying to conceive again! She says I cannot conceive now without

> endangering my baby, and that I would likely miscarry anyway.

>

> The doctor was surprised that I have a low (healthy) pulse and low

> (healthy) blood pressure. With my TSH level, she expected cardiac

> issues!

>

> I also tested my FSH and E2 on day 3. If anyone here has experience

> with that, I would love to discuss. My numbers seem very good, yet

> this dr. is saying that I need to use meds to conceive. I'm not a

> big fan of doing that.

>

> All input is very much appreciated!

> Thanks!

>

>