Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 What's his diet like? Can he explain what he's depressed about? Are you chelating him? Have you done a hair test? What supplements is he on? Is the depression worse in the winter than the rest of the year? S S <p>Listmates,<br> I have been giveing my 13 yr old boy who is very depressed and can't <br> control his temper at school 800 mg SamE and vit B6. I am not seeing <br> results. What else can I give him to help him and keep him off <br> mainstream medication? Can I also give him tryptophan? Thanks for <br> your help.<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 We gave inositol, buiding up to 500 mg once a day to our son for depression. Temper has responded to chelation, enzymes with and between meals, and yeast protocol. He was not allowed to play video games if he didn't agree to a non violent lifestyle. Our son displayed a temper after school, and he had been homeschooled before so we homeschooled again because the stresses of school was too much for him. This greatly reduced the daily outbursts. He has chemical sensitivity too, so he could barely keep it together at school, then he would come home and " explode " . 5HTP is something we have used for depression in the past. We had to divide doses and use smaller amounts, like 25 mg to avoid making him sleepy. I think we dosed at night. Talking, letting him pursue interests helped. Unschooling helped, letting him study when, where and what he wanted. Letting him make choices, like picking foods, choosing bedtimes, and doing what he wanted to do helped. Giving him control of all choices that we could possibly turn over to him helped. His own checking account to spend money as he wished helped. Cod liver oil and phosphidytlcholine helped with OCD symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 His appetite is not so great, he likes carbs.(ie,pasta, rice)He's never been chelated and have not done a hair test. It is worse in the winter since he is at school and he gets teased a lot and that is what causes behavior outbursts. I've been giving him SamE, vit 6, and last two days added tryptophan. Am I supposed to give him those together? Thanks for your help. > > <p>Listmates,<br> > I have been giveing my 13 yr old boy who is very depressed and can't <br> > control his temper at school 800 mg SamE and vit B6. I am not seeing <br> > results. What else can I give him to help him and keep him off <br> > mainstream medication? Can I also give him tryptophan? Thanks for <br> > your help.<br> > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Do his moods swing? People with salicylate problems sometimes appear bipolar, and they are known to get worse in the winter. If he doesn't swing (is mostly depressed/dragging) another possibility is Vitamin D. The UVB rays from the sun don't penetrate up here in the NY area during winter. AFAIK, the vitamin D winter affects most of the US. So, he might need Vitamin D. -Lana On 1/17/07, tam3842 <mgrullon57@...> wrote: > His appetite is not so great, he likes carbs.(ie,pasta, rice)He's > never been chelated and have not done a hair test. It is worse in > the winter since he is at school and he gets teased a lot and that > is what causes behavior outbursts. I've been giving him SamE, vit 6, > and last two days added tryptophan. Am I supposed to give him those > together? Thanks for your help. > > > > > > <p>Listmates,<br> > > I have been giveing my 13 yr old boy who is very depressed and > can't <br> > > control his temper at school 800 mg SamE and vit B6. I am not > seeing <br> > > results. What else can I give him to help him and keep him off <br> > > mainstream medication? Can I also give him tryptophan? Thanks for > <br> > > your help.<br> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Can you get him to at least drink some vegetable juice or sneak some veggies into pasta sauce? Is he on any other vitamins? With SAMe you need to make sure to give B vitamins to keep homocysteine in check. Does he have any mercury amalgam dental filling? When was his most recent vaccine? Do you suspect metal issues? S S <p>His appetite is not so great, he likes carbs.(ie,pasta, rice)He's <br> never been chelated and have not done a hair test. It is worse in <br> the winter since he is at school and he gets teased a lot and that <br> is what causes behavior outbursts. I've been giving him SamE, vit 6, <br> and last two days added tryptophan. Am I supposed to give him those <br> together? Thanks for your help.<br> <br> <br> > <br> > <p>Listmates,<wbr><br><br> > I have been giveing my 13 yr old boy who is very depressed and <br> can't <br><br> > control his temper at school 800 mg SamE and vit B6. I am not <br> seeing <br><br> > results. What else can I give him to help him and keep him off <br><br> > mainstream medication? Can I also give him tryptophan? Thanks for <br> <br><br> > your help.<br><br> > <br> > <br> > ____________<wbr>_________<wbr>_________<wbr>_________<wbr>________<br> > Join Excite! - <a href= " http://www.excite.com " >http://www.excite.<wbr>com</a><br> > The most personalized portal on the Web!<br> ><br> <br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <span width= " 1 " style= " color: white; " ></span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~--> </body> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <head> <style type= " text/css " > <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;*font-size:small;*font:x-small;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;*font-size:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family: Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin: 0 0 1em 0; } #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family: Arial; clear: both; } #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top: 10px; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 77%; margin: 0; } #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding: 0 1px; } #ygrp-actbar{ clear: both; margin: 25px 0; white-space:nowrap; color: #666; text-align: right; } #ygrp-actbar .left{ float: left; white-space:nowrap; } ...bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family: Verdana; font-size: 77%; padding: 15px 0; } #ygrp-ft{ font-family: verdana; font-size: 77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; padding: 5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom: 10px; } #ygrp-vital{ background-color: #e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px; padding: 2px 0 8px 8px; } #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size: 77%; font-family: Verdana; font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; } #ygrp-vital ul{ padding: 0; margin: 2px 0; } #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type: none; clear: both; border: 1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight: bold; color: #ff7900; float: right; width: 2em; text-align:right; padding-right: .5em; } #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight: bold; } #ygrp-vital a { text-decoration: none; } #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color: #999; font-size: 77%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding: 6px 13px; background-color: #e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding: 0 0 0 8px; margin: 0; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type: square; padding: 6px 0; font-size: 77%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration: none; font-size: 130%; } #ygrp-sponsor #nc { background-color: #eee; margin-bottom: 20px; padding: 0 8px; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding: 8px 0; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; color: #628c2a; font-size: 100%; line-height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration: none; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin: 0; } o {font-size: 0; } ...MsoNormal { margin: 0 0 0 0; } #ygrp-text tt{ font-size: 120%; } blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} ...replbq {margin:4} --> </style> </head> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEnd|**|-~--> </html><!--End group email --> <p> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Can you get him to at least drink some vegetable juice or sneak some veggies into pasta sauce? Is he on any other vitamins? With SAMe you need to make sure to give B vitamins to keep homocysteine in check. Does he have any mercury amalgam dental filling? When was his most recent vaccine? Do you suspect metal issues? S S <p>His appetite is not so great, he likes carbs.(ie,pasta, rice)He's <br> never been chelated and have not done a hair test. It is worse in <br> the winter since he is at school and he gets teased a lot and that <br> is what causes behavior outbursts. I've been giving him SamE, vit 6, <br> and last two days added tryptophan. Am I supposed to give him those <br> together? Thanks for your help.<br> <br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 It just dawned on me you mentioned temper too. Are you doing Magnesium? That's an excellent calming mineral which works well with B6. -Lana On 1/16/07, tam3842 <mgrullon57@...> wrote: > Listmates, > I have been giveing my 13 yr old boy who is very depressed and can't > control his temper at school 800 mg SamE and vit B6. I am not seeing > results. What else can I give him to help him and keep him off > mainstream medication? Can I also give him tryptophan? Thanks for > your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 I suggest that you make sure that he is getting some pro-biotics to control BAD Bacteria and Yeast, these will cause behavior problems. Dairy seems to be a contributor to attitude with kids when they get older. I strongly suggest that you consider chelation, do 10 rounds and see if it helps, you have nothing to loose. Good Luck ! Neil _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of tam3842 Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Depressed boy His appetite is not so great, he likes carbs.(ie,pasta, rice)He's never been chelated and have not done a hair test. It is worse in the winter since he is at school and he gets teased a lot and that is what causes behavior outbursts. I've been giving him SamE, vit 6, and last two days added tryptophan. Am I supposed to give him those together? Thanks for your help. > > <p>Listmates,<br> > I have been giveing my 13 yr old boy who is very depressed and can't <br> > control his temper at school 800 mg SamE and vit B6. I am not seeing <br> > results. What else can I give him to help him and keep him off <br> > mainstream medication? Can I also give him tryptophan? Thanks for <br> > your help.<br> > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite. <http://www.excite.com> com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Is he GFCF? S S Subject: [ ] Re: Depressed boy<br> <br> His appetite is not so great, he likes carbs.(ie,pasta, rice)He's <br> never been chelated and have not done a hair test. It is worse in <br> the winter since he is at school and he gets teased a lot and that <br> is what causes behavior outbursts. I've been giving him SamE, vit 6, <br> and last two days added tryptophan. Am I supposed to give him those <br> together? Thanks for your help.<br> <br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Thanks for your comments, He is taking b comlex and extra b6. I will add magnesium, that's the catch when you give one supplement, you have to give others as well. He has never been tested for metal toxidity as I have concentrated on his autistic brother. ahhhh! > > <p>His appetite is not so great, he likes carbs. (ie,pasta, rice)He's <br> > never been chelated and have not done a hair test. It is worse in <br> > the winter since he is at school and he gets teased a lot and that <br> > is what causes behavior outbursts. I've been giving him SamE, vit 6, <br> > and last two days added tryptophan. Am I supposed to give him those <br> > together? Thanks for your help.<br> > <br> > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 If his autistic brother is metal toxic, he probably is, too. S S Thanks for your comments,<br> He is taking b comlex and extra b6. I will add magnesium, that's <br> the catch when you give one supplement, you have to give others as <br> well. He has never been tested for metal toxidity as I have <br> concentrated on his autistic brother. ahhhh!<br> <br> <br> ><br> > <br> > Can you get him to at least drink some vegetable juice or sneak <br> some veggies into pasta sauce? Is he on any other vitamins? With <br> SAMe you need to make sure to give B vitamins to keep homocysteine <br> in check.<br> > Does he have any mercury amalgam dental filling? When was his <br> most recent vaccine? Do you suspect metal issues?<br> > S S<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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