Re: teeth grinding, losing my mind!

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, try dosing the zinc on an empty stomach away from the calcium. Beware,

this can sometimes cause an irritated stomach but really helps the zinc, get in.

If you see a drop in appetite that is a pretty good sign his stomach is having

problems.

It may take a lot more p acid than 100 mgs and should be given at least every

3-4 hours or 3-4 times a day.

[ ] teeth grinding, losing my mind!

I'm desperate. Ds is grinding his teeth day in and day out for

several weeks now. I've searched the archives and tried all the

usuals. Here's the saga:

- We already give lots of zinc. Tried increasing it, no change, tried

dropping it, no improvements but got very " chewy " .

- Tried adding a lot more calcium. No effect. Added more magnesium

along with the cal. Nope.

- Got desperate, gave ds one Thorne's Citramin (multi-mineral supp)

each day even though it has 0.3 mg Copper and some iron. He has

always been high copper low zinc. Teeth grinding decreased somewhat

but still persisted. Could he possibly be low copper now? Seems so

unlikely since he still seems to need a lot of zinc. Citramin has

many other minerals in it too but he's getting good amounts of all

those in his multi, except iodine. Can iodine deficiency cause grinding?

- Tried adding 100 mg Pantothenic acid per day. No effect.

Any ideas? I'm really starting to go crazy here....

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Try increasing magnesium.

Pamela

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Subject: [ ] teeth grinding, losing my mind!

I'm desperate. Ds is grinding his teeth day in and day out for

several weeks now. I've searched the archives and tried all the

usuals. Here's the saga:

- We already give lots of zinc. Tried increasing it, no change, tried

dropping it, no improvements but got very " chewy " .

- Tried adding a lot more calcium. No effect. Added more magnesium

along with the cal. Nope.

- Got desperate, gave ds one Thorne's Citramin (multi-mineral supp)

each day even though it has 0.3 mg Copper and some iron. He has

always been high copper low zinc. Teeth grinding decreased somewhat

but still persisted. Could he possibly be low copper now? Seems so

unlikely since he still seems to need a lot of zinc. Citramin has

many other minerals in it too but he's getting good amounts of all

those in his multi, except iodine. Can iodine deficiency cause grinding?

- Tried adding 100 mg Pantothenic acid per day. No effect.

Any ideas? I'm really starting to go crazy here....

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

,

My little guy had the same issue 2 months back .Things that worked

for us

1. Increase zinc. I dosed it 3-4 times a day , small amount at a

time. We did the big dosing and it didnt help. Other thing is i

used different forms of zinc. Liquid zinc from kirkmans, brainchild

minerals and zinc monomethionine. The rotation throughout helped

bigtime

2. Yeast protocol . Increase it and see

3. The problem started when i started using DMSA supps once a day .

It was a huge amount of chelator . Now am on AC protocol frequent

dosing with way less problems and stims.

Hope this helps.

Kavitha

>

> I'm desperate. Ds is grinding his teeth day in and day out for

> several weeks now. I've searched the archives and tried all the

> usuals. Here's the saga:

>

> - We already give lots of zinc. Tried increasing it, no change,

tried

> dropping it, no improvements but got very " chewy " .

> - Tried adding a lot more calcium. No effect. Added more magnesium

> along with the cal. Nope.

> - Got desperate, gave ds one Thorne's Citramin (multi-mineral supp)

> each day even though it has 0.3 mg Copper and some iron. He has

> always been high copper low zinc. Teeth grinding decreased somewhat

> but still persisted. Could he possibly be low copper now? Seems so

> unlikely since he still seems to need a lot of zinc. Citramin has

> many other minerals in it too but he's getting good amounts of all

> those in his multi, except iodine. Can iodine deficiency cause

grinding?

> - Tried adding 100 mg Pantothenic acid per day. No effect.

>

> Any ideas? I'm really starting to go crazy here....

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

We give 1200 mgs of calcium per day to avoid

teeth grinding.

--- Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...>

wrote:

> , try dosing the zinc on an empty stomach away

> from the calcium. Beware, this can sometimes cause

> an irritated stomach but really helps the zinc, get

> in. If you see a drop in appetite that is a pretty

> good sign his stomach is having problems.

>

> It may take a lot more p acid than 100 mgs and

> should be given at least every 3-4 hours or 3-4

> times a day.

>

>

> [ ] teeth grinding, losing

> my mind!

>

>

> I'm desperate. Ds is grinding his teeth day in and

> day out for

> several weeks now. I've searched the archives and

> tried all the

> usuals. Here's the saga:

>

> - We already give lots of zinc. Tried increasing

> it, no change, tried

> dropping it, no improvements but got very " chewy " .

> - Tried adding a lot more calcium. No effect.

> Added more magnesium

> along with the cal. Nope.

> - Got desperate, gave ds one Thorne's Citramin

> (multi-mineral supp)

> each day even though it has 0.3 mg Copper and some

> iron. He has

> always been high copper low zinc. Teeth grinding

> decreased somewhat

> but still persisted. Could he possibly be low

> copper now? Seems so

> unlikely since he still seems to need a lot of

> zinc. Citramin has

> many other minerals in it too but he's getting

> good amounts of all

> those in his multi, except iodine. Can iodine

> deficiency cause grinding?

> - Tried adding 100 mg Pantothenic acid per day. No

> effect.

>

> Any ideas? I'm really starting to go crazy

> here....

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

We tried increasing zinc, and no luck. She was still grinding her teeth.

We tried calcium citrate and....gosh, I don't know. I've forgotten all about

it! So maybe

that means she hasn't been grinding her teeth!

We were going to try p-acid after the calcium.

in Illinois

[Guest guest]

It has always been the lack of calcium here, on the few occasions when we have

noticed her grinding her teeth in her sleep. That's a lot of calcium, .

[ ] teeth grinding, losing

> my mind!

>

>

> I'm desperate. Ds is grinding his teeth day in and

> day out for

> several weeks now. I've searched the archives and

> tried all the

> usuals. Here's the saga:

>

> - We already give lots of zinc. Tried increasing

> it, no change, tried

> dropping it, no improvements but got very " chewy " .

> - Tried adding a lot more calcium. No effect.

> Added more magnesium

> along with the cal. Nope.

> - Got desperate, gave ds one Thorne's Citramin

> (multi-mineral supp)

> each day even though it has 0.3 mg Copper and some

> iron. He has

> always been high copper low zinc. Teeth grinding

> decreased somewhat

> but still persisted. Could he possibly be low

> copper now? Seems so

> unlikely since he still seems to need a lot of

> zinc. Citramin has

> many other minerals in it too but he's getting

> good amounts of all

> those in his multi, except iodine. Can iodine

> deficiency cause grinding?

> - Tried adding 100 mg Pantothenic acid per day. No

> effect.

>

> Any ideas? I'm really starting to go crazy

> here....

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Have you looked into parasites?

>

> We tried increasing zinc, and no luck. She was still grinding her

teeth.

>

> We tried calcium citrate and....gosh, I don't know. I've forgotten

all about it! So maybe

> that means she hasn't been grinding her teeth!

>

> We were going to try p-acid after the calcium.

>

> in Illinois

>

[Guest guest]

http://huhs.harvard.edu/ClinicalServices/NutritionKnowHow/Calcium.htm

RDA of calcium for a 9 year old is 1300. We are

GFCF and so primary sources of calcium are gone

for us.

--- Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...>

wrote:

> It has always been the lack of calcium here, on

> the few occasions when we have noticed her grinding

> her teeth in her sleep. That's a lot of calcium,

> .

>

>

>

>

> [ ] teeth grinding, losing

> > my mind!

> >

> >

> > I'm desperate. Ds is grinding his teeth day in

> and

> > day out for

> > several weeks now. I've searched the archives

> and

> > tried all the

> > usuals. Here's the saga:

> >

> > - We already give lots of zinc. Tried increasing

> > it, no change, tried

> > dropping it, no improvements but got very

> " chewy " .

> > - Tried adding a lot more calcium. No effect.

> > Added more magnesium

> > along with the cal. Nope.

> > - Got desperate, gave ds one Thorne's Citramin

> > (multi-mineral supp)

> > each day even though it has 0.3 mg Copper and

> some

> > iron. He has

> > always been high copper low zinc. Teeth grinding

> > decreased somewhat

> > but still persisted. Could he possibly be low

> > copper now? Seems so

> > unlikely since he still seems to need a lot of

> > zinc. Citramin has

> > many other minerals in it too but he's getting

> > good amounts of all

> > those in his multi, except iodine. Can iodine

> > deficiency cause grinding?

> > - Tried adding 100 mg Pantothenic acid per day.

> No

> > effect.

> >

> > Any ideas? I'm really starting to go crazy

> > here....

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Type of calcium may matter. We use KAL, a

liquid available from Vitamin Shoppe. It is

a blend of calcium types, magnisium and

D.

--- mmc2315 <m.chelap@...> wrote:

> We tried increasing zinc, and no luck. She was

> still grinding her teeth.

>

> We tried calcium citrate and....gosh, I don't know.

> I've forgotten all about it! So maybe

> that means she hasn't been grinding her teeth!

>

> We were going to try p-acid after the calcium.

>

> in Illinois

>

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My kiddo is 20 months and breastfeeds a lot, so I'm kinda nervous

about increasing his calcium further. The RDA for his age is 500 mg

and we are already at 700 mg plus whatever is in breastmilk. What

problems might I see if I go too high? Constipation is one I've

heard, but ds has chronic loose stools so I think that's unlikely with

him.

> >

> > > , try dosing the zinc on an empty stomach

> > away

> > > from the calcium. Beware, this can sometimes

> > cause

> > > an irritated stomach but really helps the zinc,

> > get

> > > in. If you see a drop in appetite that is a

> > pretty

> > > good sign his stomach is having problems.

> > >

> > > It may take a lot more p acid than 100 mgs and

> > > should be given at least every 3-4 hours or 3-4

> > > times a day.

> > >

> > >

> > > [ ] teeth grinding, losing

> > > my mind!

> > >

> > >

> > > I'm desperate. Ds is grinding his teeth day in

> > and

> > > day out for

> > > several weeks now. I've searched the archives

> > and

> > > tried all the

> > > usuals. Here's the saga:

> > >

> > > - We already give lots of zinc. Tried increasing

> > > it, no change, tried

> > > dropping it, no improvements but got very

> > " chewy " .

> > > - Tried adding a lot more calcium. No effect.

> > > Added more magnesium

> > > along with the cal. Nope.

> > > - Got desperate, gave ds one Thorne's Citramin

> > > (multi-mineral supp)

> > > each day even though it has 0.3 mg Copper and

> > some

> > > iron. He has

> > > always been high copper low zinc. Teeth grinding

> > > decreased somewhat

> > > but still persisted. Could he possibly be low

> > > copper now? Seems so

> > > unlikely since he still seems to need a lot of

> > > zinc. Citramin has

> > > many other minerals in it too but he's getting

> > > good amounts of all

> > > those in his multi, except iodine. Can iodine

> > > deficiency cause grinding?

> > > - Tried adding 100 mg Pantothenic acid per day.

> > No

> > > effect.

> > >

> > > Any ideas? I'm really starting to go crazy

> > > here....

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Good call! We are sending off stool samples today actually, so we'll

find out soon.

Thanks,

>

> Have you looked into parasites?

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm desperate. Ds is grinding his teeth day in and day out for

> several weeks now. I've searched the archives and tried all the

> usuals. Here's the saga:

For my #2, adding zinc eliminated this until he was fully zinc loaded,

then I had to remove zinc and add a little copper to get back to the

proper ratio.

For my #1, adding copper and cal/mag eliminated this.

> - Tried adding a lot more calcium. No effect. Added more magnesium

> along with the cal. Nope.

Add vitamin D and K, see if that helps.

> - Got desperate, gave ds one Thorne's Citramin (multi-mineral supp)

> each day even though it has 0.3 mg Copper and some iron. He has

> always been high copper low zinc. Teeth grinding decreased somewhat

> but still persisted. Could he possibly be low copper now?

Try giving zinc/copper, this worked to maintain ratio for a while for

my #1. I gave 200% zinc and 100% copper for probably 2-3 months.

This was 30mg zinc and 2mg copper.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> My kiddo is 20 months and breastfeeds a lot, so I'm kinda nervous

> about increasing his calcium further. The RDA for his age is 500 mg

> and we are already at 700 mg plus whatever is in breastmilk. What

> problems might I see if I go too high? Constipation is one I've

> heard, but ds has chronic loose stools so I think that's unlikely with

> him.

Calcium can be constipating if the child is deficient and the calcium

is not given with sufficient magnesium.

My kids were calcium toxic, and one of the symptoms that giving extra

calcium caused, was diarrhea.

Dana

[Guest guest]

, just wondering if you were chelating and what round you may be

on?

If so tell the group and they may help dial in better to kiddo's

needs.

Not sure if this applies but sometimes the body needs a bit of a

break as they need to re-mineralize. Sometimes it just gets over a

hump in the process. Sometimes many changes make it harder to find

what is actually going on and returning to a baseline helps sort this

stuff out.

Just mentioning we had these issues for " long " time before we started

biomed and during chelation. Once we stared to make progress via

chelation and were adequately supplemented the problem went away.

But then when we hit chelation hard constantly 6- 9 moths (slow

and steady of course) teeth grinding came back. We did ALL of what

was suggested and then some. Took a chelation break revamped vitamin

regimen / dosed more minerals at night etc… / re-mineralized and

have not had a problem since. I swore the Pantothenic acid was a key

player, but can not say that definity BC we took all the above into

consideration as well. And it was the last thing we did.

This may not be your situation but hope it may be of some help for

some clues.

Hang in their it may be a matter of finding the current needs,

which will bring you further along in the process.

As always my best

Kenny V

>

> I'm desperate. Ds is grinding his teeth day in and day out for

> several weeks now. I've searched the archives and tried all the

> usuals. Here's the saga:

>

> - We already give lots of zinc. Tried increasing it, no change,

tried

> dropping it, no improvements but got very " chewy " .

> - Tried adding a lot more calcium. No effect. Added more magnesium

> along with the cal. Nope.

> - Got desperate, gave ds one Thorne's Citramin (multi-mineral supp)

> each day even though it has 0.3 mg Copper and some iron. He has

> always been high copper low zinc. Teeth grinding decreased somewhat

> but still persisted. Could he possibly be low copper now? Seems so

> unlikely since he still seems to need a lot of zinc. Citramin has

> many other minerals in it too but he's getting good amounts of all

> those in his multi, except iodine. Can iodine deficiency cause

grinding?

> - Tried adding 100 mg Pantothenic acid per day. No effect.

>

> Any ideas? I'm really starting to go crazy here....

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Read up on Yasko's theory about calcium. (glutamate is the gun,

calcium is the bullet)-just another perspective - read it, take it

in as information then accept or reject it.

I haven't supplemented calcium in years. Occasionally my son's

blood test or urine test shows low but usually it is just fine.

> > My kiddo is 20 months and breastfeeds a lot, so I'm kinda nervous

> > about increasing his calcium further. The RDA for his age is

500 mg

> > and we are already at 700 mg plus whatever is in breastmilk.

What

> > problems might I see if I go too high? Constipation is one I've

> > heard, but ds has chronic loose stools so I think that's

unlikely with

> > him.

>

>

> Calcium can be constipating if the child is deficient and the

calcium

> is not given with sufficient magnesium.

>

> My kids were calcium toxic, and one of the symptoms that giving

extra

> calcium caused, was diarrhea.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Greens are a good source of calcium, if the individual will eat them. Most of

the milk substitutes, like almond mylk contain have calcium added.

S S

<br>

> RDA of calcium for a 9 year old is 1300. We are<br>

> GFCF and so primary sources of calcium are gone<br>

> for us.<br>

> <br>

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Hi ,

We recently started treating for parasites based on symptoms

(hyperactive, hyperverbal, HUGE appetites/poor growth, teeth grinding -

none of these things have responded to three years of biomed - there

were a few other symptoms that escape me at the moment). Dr. Usman

asked us if we wanted to run tests but when I asked if we would treat

regardless, she said yes because they don't always show up in the

stool samples, etc. We decided to forgo the test and begin

treatments.

FWIW,

> >

> > Have you looked into parasites?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Not chelating right now, my son had very bad reactions to two rounds

of Cutler protocol DMSA a couple months ago and we've been trying to

" bring him back " ever since, especially with regard to insane yeast

problems and general gut problems, as well as new things such as teeth

grinding.

So we took the calcium up another notch and suddenly, no more

grinding! We've only been grind-free for 1 day so perhaps it's too

soon to celebrate, but it's looking like this round of teeth grinding

is a calcium issue. Thanks everyone for all the help!

>

> , just wondering if you were chelating and what round you may be

> on?

> If so tell the group and they may help dial in better to kiddo's

> needs.

> Not sure if this applies but sometimes the body needs a bit of a

> break as they need to re-mineralize. Sometimes it just gets over a

> hump in the process. Sometimes many changes make it harder to find

> what is actually going on and returning to a baseline helps sort this

> stuff out.

>

>

> Just mentioning we had these issues for " long " time before we started

> biomed and during chelation. Once we stared to make progress via

> chelation and were adequately supplemented the problem went away.

> But then when we hit chelation hard constantly 6- 9 moths (slow

> and steady of course) teeth grinding came back. We did ALL of what

> was suggested and then some. Took a chelation break revamped vitamin

> regimen / dosed more minerals at night etc… / re-mineralized and

> have not had a problem since. I swore the Pantothenic acid was a key

> player, but can not say that definity BC we took all the above into

> consideration as well. And it was the last thing we did.

>

> This may not be your situation but hope it may be of some help for

> some clues.

> Hang in their it may be a matter of finding the current needs,

> which will bring you further along in the process.

>

> As always my best

> Kenny V

>

>

[Guest guest]

So parasites don't always show up on stool tests? Rats. Hm, the only

one of those symptoms my son has is teeth grinding, and that has

recently improved with more calcium. Well, he also has a huge

appetite but also lots of growth (very big & tall, tops all the charts).

What is the treatment you're using, out of curiousity?

> > >

> > > Have you looked into parasites?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If the grinding responded to calcium then I wouldn't think it was

related to parasites. Dr. Usman also said that some kids with

parasites have behavior patterns and sleeping trouble that is

affected by the cycle of the moon. Mine fit that description too.

We are using VRM products 10 days on/5 off. I understand it will

take a long time. I know that each cycle after four days off the

products, they are even more hungry and my daughter starts

complaining that her bottom hurts (can't really see anything). Then

the first few days back on the products my son is more emotional and

my daughter is more hostile and aggressive so hopefully that means

we will see some good things in the long run.

Take care,

> > > >

> > > > Have you looked into parasites?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, this is great, it was always calcium being low here that did that, glad

you found your answer!!

[ ] Re: teeth grinding, losing my mind!

Not chelating right now, my son had very bad reactions to two rounds

of Cutler protocol DMSA a couple months ago and we've been trying to

" bring him back " ever since, especially with regard to insane yeast

problems and general gut problems, as well as new things such as teeth

grinding.

So we took the calcium up another notch and suddenly, no more

grinding! We've only been grind-free for 1 day so perhaps it's too

soon to celebrate, but it's looking like this round of teeth grinding

is a calcium issue. Thanks everyone for all the help!

>

> , just wondering if you were chelating and what round you may be

> on?

> If so tell the group and they may help dial in better to kiddo's

> needs.

> Not sure if this applies but sometimes the body needs a bit of a

> break as they need to re-mineralize. Sometimes it just gets over a

> hump in the process. Sometimes many changes make it harder to find

> what is actually going on and returning to a baseline helps sort this

> stuff out.

>

>

> Just mentioning we had these issues for " long " time before we started

> biomed and during chelation. Once we stared to make progress via

> chelation and were adequately supplemented the problem went away.

> But then when we hit chelation hard constantly 6- 9 moths (slow

> and steady of course) teeth grinding came back. We did ALL of what

> was suggested and then some. Took a chelation break revamped vitamin

> regimen / dosed more minerals at night etc. / re-mineralized and

> have not had a problem since. I swore the Pantothenic acid was a key

> player, but can not say that definity BC we took all the above into

> consideration as well. And it was the last thing we did.

>

> This may not be your situation but hope it may be of some help for

> some clues.

> Hang in their it may be a matter of finding the current needs,

> which will bring you further along in the process.

>

> As always my best

> Kenny V

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have found that personally..I had a huge teeth grinding problem

before I had my fillings out. Well now I see it re-appear when I am

on dmsa if I dont take enough minerals. I have to be sure to take

lots of calcium, zinc, molybdenum, and magnesium..if I don't..it

comes back. It seems to happen when I am moving metals..

Check his mineral doses against Andy's list per pound.

> >

> > , just wondering if you were chelating and what round you

may be

> > on?

> > If so tell the group and they may help dial in better to kiddo's

> > needs.

> > Not sure if this applies but sometimes the body needs a bit of a

> > break as they need to re-mineralize. Sometimes it just gets over

a

> > hump in the process. Sometimes many changes make it harder to

find

> > what is actually going on and returning to a baseline helps sort

this

> > stuff out.

> >

> >

> > Just mentioning we had these issues for " long " time before we

started

> > biomed and during chelation. Once we stared to make progress via

> > chelation and were adequately supplemented the problem went away.

> > But then when we hit chelation hard constantly 6- 9 moths

(slow

> > and steady of course) teeth grinding came back. We did ALL of

what

> > was suggested and then some. Took a chelation break revamped

vitamin

> > regimen / dosed more minerals at night etc… / re-mineralized

and

> > have not had a problem since. I swore the Pantothenic acid was a

key

> > player, but can not say that definity BC we took all the above

into

> > consideration as well. And it was the last thing we did.

> >

> > This may not be your situation but hope it may be of some help

for

> > some clues.

> > Hang in their it may be a matter of finding the current

needs,

> > which will bring you further along in the process.

> >

> > As always my best

> > Kenny V

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Teeth grinding could also be deficiency of calcium , magnesium

and /or zinc if teethgrinding goes on the whole day. But if it is

only nightly teethgrinding it could be parasites. My son was a

daytime whole day teethgrinder but absolutely no grinding in the

night. We started with zinc and then magnesium and he have seen huge

improvements (touchwood not to jinx my own words). For parasites we

did testing through Quest anyway and it came negative but I have

heard that more comprehensive testing like the 3-specimen test (CDSA-

3) through specialized labs like GPL, Genova are more effective.

sudha

> > > > >

> > > > > Have you looked into parasites?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi. I'm new here, and don't know if anyone has mentioned B5, panthothenic

acid, as helpful for stopping teethgrinding. Worked for my daughter years ago.

Also VitalEarth has a good fulvic acid for minerals.

Francine

In a message dated 1/26/2007 3:08:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

paxlforme@... writes:

I have found that personally..I have found that personally..<WBR>I had

before I had my fillings out. Well now I see it re-appear when I am

on dmsa if I dont take enough minerals. I have to be sure to take

lots of calcium, zinc, molybdenum, and magnesium..if I don't..it

comes back. It seems to happen when I am moving metals..

Check his mineral doses against Andy's list per pound.

> >

> > , just wondering if you were chelating and what round you

may be

> > on?

> > If so tell the group and they may help dial in better to kiddo's

> > needs.

> > Not sure if this applies but sometimes the body needs a bit of a

> > break as they need to re-mineralize. Sometimes it just gets over

a

> > hump in the process. Sometimes many changes make it harder to

find

> > what is actually going on and returning to a baseline helps sort

this

> > stuff out.

> >

> >

> > Just mentioning we had these issues for " long " time before we

started

> > biomed and during chelation. Once we stared to make progress via

> > chelation and were adequately supplemented the problem went away.

> > But then when we hit chelation hard constantly 6- 9 moths

(slow

> > and steady of course) teeth grinding came back. We did ALL of

what

> > was suggested and then some. Took a chelation break revamped

vitamin

> > regimen / dosed more minerals at night etc… / re-mineralized

and

> > have not had a problem since. I swore the Pantothenic acid was a

key

> > player, but can not say that definity BC we took all the above

into

> > consideration as well. And it was the last thing we did.

> >

> > This may not be your situation but hope it may be of some help

for

> > some clues.

> > Hang in their it may be a matter of finding the current

needs,

> > which will bring you further along in the process.

> >

> > As always my best

> > Kenny V