Re: Questions about anti-viral agents and dosage

[Guest guest]

Hi Wenwei,

My comments are interspersed.

> He is taking the following anti-viral agents currently:

>

> - L-lysine: 500mg/day

> - Moduecare: 2 capsules/day

> - Elderberry: 2 capsules/day

> - Lauricidin: 40 pillets/day

> - ImmunoForte: 1 capsule/day

> - IMF 1/2/6

> - GSE: 2 capsules/day

Not all of these are antivirals, IMO, but you do seem to have a good

range that would target a variety of viruses.

>

> Valtrex & Vit-A are to be added soon.

Do you mean long-term Vitamin A or the high dose protocol? There is

a big difference.

>

>>

> My first question is: is the dosage good enough? I really like the

> way Metal I to be given: start small dosage, then up alll the way

to

> either 8X/day or kid can tolerate. Why we don't do the same way for

> other anti-viral agents?

You certainly can, but IMO I think it is probably easier to go for

the higher doses with just a few of the antivirals you believe to be

working the best. I also believe that for most of our kids, longer

term lower doses are better.

>

> My second question is: are there any anti-viral agents I should add

> per my son's condition?

I think many parents have experienced a lot of success with Virastop--

it works on both enveloped and non-enveloped viruses. However, if

you are adding in Valtrex, I'm not sure how many antivirals you want

to have on board. Most people, whether it is the best approach or

not, tend to use the naturals in some sort of combination OR Valtrex

(sometimes with one or two naturals). Simply getting all of those in

your kid a few times a day might be too daunting. Also, it may be

too much for your child's system, particularly if you add in Valtrex

at the generally recommended dosage on top of all the antivirals

you're already using.

Anita

>

> Thanks.

> Wenwei

>

[Guest guest]

hi Anita,

Thanks for your comments.

For Vit-A, I will have a phone-consultation with DAN! this

Wednesday. I think I will try Mega Dose, following a maintenance

dose. I have Micel Vit-A from Klaire lab received yesterday.

For Vira-Stop, I did try it and didn't see any difference.

Thanks.

Wenwei

>

> Hi Wenwei,

>

> My comments are interspersed.

>

> > He is taking the following anti-viral agents currently:

> >

> > - L-lysine: 500mg/day

> > - Moduecare: 2 capsules/day

> > - Elderberry: 2 capsules/day

> > - Lauricidin: 40 pillets/day

> > - ImmunoForte: 1 capsule/day

> > - IMF 1/2/6

> > - GSE: 2 capsules/day

>

> Not all of these are antivirals, IMO, but you do seem to have a

good

> range that would target a variety of viruses.

> >

> > Valtrex & Vit-A are to be added soon.

>

> Do you mean long-term Vitamin A or the high dose protocol? There

is

> a big difference.

>

> >

> >>

> > My first question is: is the dosage good enough? I really like

the

> > way Metal I to be given: start small dosage, then up alll the

way

> to

> > either 8X/day or kid can tolerate. Why we don't do the same way

for

> > other anti-viral agents?

>

> You certainly can, but IMO I think it is probably easier to go for

> the higher doses with just a few of the antivirals you believe to

be

> working the best. I also believe that for most of our kids,

longer

> term lower doses are better.

> >

> > My second question is: are there any anti-viral agents I should

add

> > per my son's condition?

>

> I think many parents have experienced a lot of success with

Virastop--

> it works on both enveloped and non-enveloped viruses. However, if

> you are adding in Valtrex, I'm not sure how many antivirals you

want

> to have on board. Most people, whether it is the best approach or

> not, tend to use the naturals in some sort of combination OR

Valtrex

> (sometimes with one or two naturals). Simply getting all of those

in

> your kid a few times a day might be too daunting. Also, it may be

> too much for your child's system, particularly if you add in

Valtrex

> at the generally recommended dosage on top of all the antivirals

> you're already using.

>

> Anita

> >

> > Thanks.

> > Wenwei

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> He is taking the following anti-viral agents currently:

>

> - L-lysine: 500mg/day

> - Moduecare: 2 capsules/day

> - Elderberry: 2 capsules/day

> - Lauricidin: 40 pillets/day

> - ImmunoForte: 1 capsule/day

> - IMF 1/2/6

> - GSE: 2 capsules/day

>

> Valtrex & Vit-A are to be added soon.

For my son, vitamin C was essential, and he required high doses.

Also, I used olive leaf extract and Virastop enzyme. This combination

eliminated his viruses, and prevented new ones from entering his brain.

> With all above anti-viral agents, he is still showing no rash, not

> sick (only twice mild fevers). While he was on Metal I, he did show

> swollen eyes.

My son did not develop a rash until over a year of anti-virals.

Oddly, the addition of carnitine and whey protein powder has allowed

additional viral pull.

> My second question is: are there any anti-viral agents I should add

> per my son's condition?

For my son, vitamin C was essential.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana,

Thanks. I do have Olive Leaf, Vit-C and Megnisum citrate on board.

ViraStop I tried also, don't see any difference.

I feel the dosage is key. I recall that in other thread, you

mentioned that to up the dosage up to the tolerance. Is that

correct? Can you share your dosage?

Thanks.

Wenwei

> > He is taking the following anti-viral agents currently:

> >

> > - L-lysine: 500mg/day

> > - Moduecare: 2 capsules/day

> > - Elderberry: 2 capsules/day

> > - Lauricidin: 40 pillets/day

> > - ImmunoForte: 1 capsule/day

> > - IMF 1/2/6

> > - GSE: 2 capsules/day

> >

> > Valtrex & Vit-A are to be added soon.

>

>

> For my son, vitamin C was essential, and he required high doses.

> Also, I used olive leaf extract and Virastop enzyme. This

combination

> eliminated his viruses, and prevented new ones from entering his

brain.

>

>

> > With all above anti-viral agents, he is still showing no rash,

not

> > sick (only twice mild fevers). While he was on Metal I, he did

show

> > swollen eyes.

>

>

> My son did not develop a rash until over a year of anti-virals.

>

> Oddly, the addition of carnitine and whey protein powder has

allowed

> additional viral pull.

>

>

> > My second question is: are there any anti-viral agents I should

add

> > per my son's condition?

>

>

> For my son, vitamin C was essential.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> Thanks. I do have Olive Leaf, Vit-C and Megnisum citrate on board.

> ViraStop I tried also, don't see any difference.

> I feel the dosage is key. I recall that in other thread, you

> mentioned that to up the dosage up to the tolerance. Is that

> correct? Can you share your dosage?

I would increase the dose when I stopped seeing improvements. I would

see new rashes or improvements etc. Then when things settled down, I

would increase the dose again. I did this until further increases did

not produce any further improvements.

The most daily I gave:

vitamin C, 45 grams

Virastop, 30 capsules

OLE, 3000mg

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana,

Wow! That max dosage is ammazing! When you gave 45 grams Vit-C, I can't image

how the stool looks like.

Thanks.

Wenwei

[ ] Re: Questions about anti-viral agents and dosage

> Dana,

> Thanks. I do have Olive Leaf, Vit-C and Megnisum citrate on board.

> ViraStop I tried also, don't see any difference.

> I feel the dosage is key. I recall that in other thread, you

> mentioned that to up the dosage up to the tolerance. Is that

> correct? Can you share your dosage?

I would increase the dose when I stopped seeing improvements. I would

see new rashes or improvements etc. Then when things settled down, I

would increase the dose again. I did this until further increases did

not produce any further improvements.

The most daily I gave:

vitamin C, 45 grams

Virastop, 30 capsules

OLE, 3000mg

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> Dana,

>

> Wow! That max dosage is ammazing! When you gave 45 grams Vit-C, I

can't image how the stool looks like.

>

> Thanks.

> Wenwei

Oh Wenwei, you made me laugh. Only ASD parents would spend even one

second imagining what some other child's stool looks like!

Anita

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah, this type of thinking is in my DNA now!

Have a nice day!

Wenwei

[ ] Re: Questions about anti-viral agents and dosage

>

> Dana,

>

> Wow! That max dosage is ammazing! When you gave 45 grams Vit-C, I

can't image how the stool looks like.

>

> Thanks.

> Wenwei

Oh Wenwei, you made me laugh. Only ASD parents would spend even one

second imagining what some other child's stool looks like!

Anita

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> Wow! That max dosage is ammazing! When you gave 45 grams Vit-C, I

can't image how the stool looks like.

It looked absolutely normal. His body needed that much vitamin C.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana,

What you said is really interesting and it surprised me. Now I'm

really interested in increasing the dosage based on the reaction!

From the previous email, you have explained how you increase or stop

increasing; also you shared the max dosage of Vit-C, ViraStop, and

OLE. Now I have another two questions:

1. for example, you graduately increase ViraStop to 30 capsules/day.

What criteria you used to decide to stay on the dosage, and What

criteria you used to decrease back to maintenance dosage? I assume

the dosage graph woulld be BELL curve if you draw one?

2. You had very good result from ViraStop. Did you repeat the high

dosage treatment again and again? If yes, what criteria you used to

make you do it again?

Thanks.

Wenwei

> > Dana,

> > Wow! That max dosage is ammazing! When you gave 45 grams Vit-C, I

> can't image how the stool looks like.

>

>

> It looked absolutely normal. His body needed that much vitamin C.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> 1. for example, you graduately increase ViraStop to 30 capsules/day.

> What criteria you used to decide to stay on the dosage, and What

> criteria you used to decrease back to maintenance dosage?

Once things leveled off at 30 capsules, I tried increasing it, and saw

no difference. So I kept the higher dose until it started causing

problems. I increased it and the problems increased. I decreased it

and things improved. So I gradually decreased it until I removed it.

> 2. You had very good result from ViraStop. Did you repeat the high

> dosage treatment again and again? If yes, what criteria you used to

> make you do it again?

I tried that, but my son had problems each time. Right now, he only

needs a small dose of vitamin C [500mg] along with carnitine and whey

protein powder [otherwise he does not tolerate any vitamin C].

Dana