Re: 5 year old with bone pain

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello,

>

> I started chalating my 5 year (39 pounds) old following AC protocol.

> We did 5 rounds (12.5mg per dose every 4 hours for 3 days then 4

> days off).

The recommendation is to start at 1/8 mg per lb, that would be 5 mg

for a 40 lb person.

J

We took a break just for a week because he had flu

> symptoms and we wanted to give his body a break. We did his 6th

> round this past weekend. My son was very tired this time and he

> complained about bone pain (fingers, wrists, arm ....), i do give

> him at least 1500mg calcium per day in 3 doses on the off days.

>

> 1) Do you you think the calcium is enough or he heeds a higher dose

>

> 2)What is the best form of calcium that the body absorbs to the

> maximum (I use kirkman chewables).

>

> 3) Do i need to give him calcium also on chelation days to avoid any

> problems.

>

> 4) I was going to increase his dose to 18mg this coming cycle, do

> you think this is wise? If not why?

>

> Thank you so much for your generous help.

>

[Guest guest]

I beleive 1500mg of calcium should be enough. I've read that for some

children these pains might be the sign of other mineral deficiencies,

like magnesium or potassium.

My son had similar bone pains, usually by the end of round. I

supposed potassium deficiency. He could not have bananas which are a

good source of potassium so I just replaced table salt with low

sodium salt. It is a mix of sodium chloride and potassium chloride.

No complains since that.

HTH,

Galina

>

> Hello,

>

> I started chalating my 5 year (39 pounds) old following AC

protocol.

> We did 5 rounds (12.5mg per dose every 4 hours for 3 days then 4

> days off). We took a break just for a week because he had flu

> symptoms and we wanted to give his body a break. We did his 6th

> round this past weekend. My son was very tired this time and he

> complained about bone pain (fingers, wrists, arm ....), i do give

> him at least 1500mg calcium per day in 3 doses on the off days.

>

> 1) Do you you think the calcium is enough or he heeds a higher dose

>

> 2)What is the best form of calcium that the body absorbs to the

> maximum (I use kirkman chewables).

>

> 3) Do i need to give him calcium also on chelation days to avoid

any

> problems.

>

> 4) I was going to increase his dose to 18mg this coming cycle, do

> you think this is wise? If not why?

>

> Thank you so much for your generous help.

>

[Guest guest]

Check his magnesium as well.

Barb

[ ] 5 year old with bone pain

Hello,

I started chalating my 5 year (39 pounds) old following AC protocol.

We did 5 rounds (12.5mg per dose every 4 hours for 3 days then 4

days off). We took a break just for a week because he had flu

symptoms and we wanted to give his body a break. We did his 6th

round this past weekend. My son was very tired this time and he

complained about bone pain (fingers, wrists, arm ....), i do give

him at least 1500mg calcium per day in 3 doses on the off days.

1) Do you you think the calcium is enough or he heeds a higher dose

2)What is the best form of calcium that the body absorbs to the

maximum (I use kirkman chewables).

3) Do i need to give him calcium also on chelation days to avoid any

problems.

4) I was going to increase his dose to 18mg this coming cycle, do

you think this is wise? If not why?

Thank you so much for your generous help.

[Guest guest]

>

I am not an expert in chelation, but I would definitely take this

seriously. Yes, I do think one needs calcium on days off. Yes, some

calcium types are reportedly not absorbed by some people. Sometimes,

calcium is not absorbed due to lack of other vitamins and minerals. I

would make sure he is getting a lot of different vitamins and

minerals. And, if possible, take him to a doctor. Probably a DAN

doctor would be best, but if not possible, have a regular Doc take

his calcium levels. I would also do some research on the net

concerning this. Sorry to sound overly cautious, but I just believe

things like this need to be explored, even if it is just to give you

peace of mind.

Heidi

> Hello,

>

> I started chalating my 5 year (39 pounds) old following AC

protocol.

> We did 5 rounds (12.5mg per dose every 4 hours for 3 days then 4

> days off). We took a break just for a week because he had flu

> symptoms and we wanted to give his body a break. We did his 6th

> round this past weekend. My son was very tired this time and he

> complained about bone pain (fingers, wrists, arm ....), i do give

> him at least 1500mg calcium per day in 3 doses on the off days.

>

> 1) Do you you think the calcium is enough or he heeds a higher dose

>

> 2)What is the best form of calcium that the body absorbs to the

> maximum (I use kirkman chewables).

>

> 3) Do i need to give him calcium also on chelation days to avoid

any

> problems.

>

> 4) I was going to increase his dose to 18mg this coming cycle, do

> you think this is wise? If not why?

>

> Thank you so much for your generous help.

>

[Guest guest]

>>My son was very tired this time and he

> complained about bone pain (fingers, wrists, arm ....), i do give

> him at least 1500mg calcium per day in 3 doses on the off days.

>

> 1) Do you you think the calcium is enough or he heeds a higher dose

That is a relatively high dose of calcium, especially for a 5yo, so I

would not increase it. You might need to increase nutrients that help

with calcium absorption tho, like magnesium, vitamin K, vitamin D, and

I just noticed on the back of my lysine bottle yesterday, that lysine

helps with calcium absorption.

> 3) Do i need to give him calcium also on chelation days to avoid any

> problems.

Was he complaining of the pain only on the chelation days, or on the

" off " days also?

Dana

[Guest guest]

I get this while on dmsa but I was exposed to A LOT of Lead as kid.

I take more calcium while on a round. This seems to help.

I take and give my kids calcium every day. Also magnesium, K, zinc,

D, etc. All the stuff for bones, along with whatever else in on

Andy's list. You should be supplementing constantly on rounds and

off. This helps keep side effects minimal. And provides the body

with things it needs to rebuild and replace the metals.

Personally, I would hold his dose for a few rounds. See if you can

be sure things are going along ok. That he is regaining his energy

and such. A virus can knock you down for a while.

Could the bone pain be residual of that virus he had? My bones ache

like crazy if I get sick. We use Kirkman Calcium w/D powder, so that

form should be ok for absorbability. But keep in mind kids need

things like CLO or A w/D and K, and Mag and phoshorus etc to build

bone.

I have heard from more than one person of bone pain on dmsa..adults

anyway. Probably due to removing lead from the bones. You mentioned

fatigue, is he on lots of other vitamins on the list? How about

immune support? (if needed)

> >

> I am not an expert in chelation, but I would definitely take this

> seriously. Yes, I do think one needs calcium on days off. Yes,

some

> calcium types are reportedly not absorbed by some people.

Sometimes,

> calcium is not absorbed due to lack of other vitamins and

minerals. I

> would make sure he is getting a lot of different vitamins and

> minerals. And, if possible, take him to a doctor. Probably a DAN

> doctor would be best, but if not possible, have a regular Doc take

> his calcium levels. I would also do some research on the net

> concerning this. Sorry to sound overly cautious, but I just

believe

> things like this need to be explored, even if it is just to give

you

> peace of mind.

>

> Heidi

>

>

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > I started chalating my 5 year (39 pounds) old following AC

> protocol.

> > We did 5 rounds (12.5mg per dose every 4 hours for 3 days then 4

> > days off). We took a break just for a week because he had flu

> > symptoms and we wanted to give his body a break. We did his 6th

> > round this past weekend. My son was very tired this time and he

> > complained about bone pain (fingers, wrists, arm ....), i do

give

> > him at least 1500mg calcium per day in 3 doses on the off days.

> >

> > 1) Do you you think the calcium is enough or he heeds a higher

dose

> >

> > 2)What is the best form of calcium that the body absorbs to the

> > maximum (I use kirkman chewables).

> >

> > 3) Do i need to give him calcium also on chelation days to avoid

> any

> > problems.

> >

> > 4) I was going to increase his dose to 18mg this coming cycle,

do

> > you think this is wise? If not why?

> >

> > Thank you so much for your generous help.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The vitamin K group has some interesting info about calcium

and vitamin D. I haven't supplemented calcium for my 4 yr old (GFCF

diet) in 2 years. I keep track of his levels via blood and urine

tests.

> >>My son was very tired this time and he

> > complained about bone pain (fingers, wrists, arm ....), i do

give

> > him at least 1500mg calcium per day in 3 doses on the off days.

> >

> > 1) Do you you think the calcium is enough or he heeds a higher

dose

>

>

> That is a relatively high dose of calcium, especially for a 5yo,

so I

> would not increase it. You might need to increase nutrients that

help

> with calcium absorption tho, like magnesium, vitamin K, vitamin D,

and

> I just noticed on the back of my lysine bottle yesterday, that

lysine

> helps with calcium absorption.

>

>

> > 3) Do i need to give him calcium also on chelation days to avoid

any

> > problems.

>

>

> Was he complaining of the pain only on the chelation days, or on

the

> " off " days also?

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Hi!

I was wondering, how much magnesium and C he is taking. That seems

like a good size dosage of calcium....my thinking is that it might

not be being absorbed correctly. Do you give K2? At my house we

give about the same dose of magnesiulm as calcium...and a large dose

of C. My kids take at least 5 grams of C, but I know others can't

tolerate that much. We have found if the K2 level isn't where it

should be...then the calcium isn't being absorbed and there is bone

pain.

Just my two cents.

> Hello,

>

> I started chalating my 5 year (39 pounds) old following AC

protocol.

> We did 5 rounds (12.5mg per dose every 4 hours for 3 days then 4

> days off). We took a break just for a week because he had flu

> symptoms and we wanted to give his body a break. We did his 6th

> round this past weekend. My son was very tired this time and he

> complained about bone pain (fingers, wrists, arm ....), i do give

> him at least 1500mg calcium per day in 3 doses on the off days.

>

> 1) Do you you think the calcium is enough or he heeds a higher dose

>

> 2)What is the best form of calcium that the body absorbs to the

> maximum (I use kirkman chewables).

>

> 3) Do i need to give him calcium also on chelation days to avoid

any

> problems.

>

> 4) I was going to increase his dose to 18mg this coming cycle, do

> you think this is wise? If not why?

>

> Thank you so much for your generous help.

>