Re: Do you or your kids still eat fish?

[Guest guest]

we won't touch fish. The government has a warning to pregnant women

and children on consumption and our guidelines for acceptable

mercury content in fish are far higher than other countries. This

tells me the amount in our fish is not safe at all, and a lot higher

than what should be acceptable.

Just tell the dietian that she does'nt like fish. And pardon me, but

what business is it of theirs what you feed her. Maybe print out the

government warning from the FDA on mercury in fish and show it to

her.

yes, schools serve it, but you know what...the kids don't eat it. In

the school I worked in...kids bought everything but the fish.

As for seeweed, products from the sea, one has to choose carefully,

looking for testing of mercury contents from reputable companies.

>

> Just wondering if there is any fish considered safe to eat,

especially

> for our mercury-toxic children.

>

> What about seaweed - nori & other algae? Is everything from the sea

> unsafe for our kids?

>

> At my daughter's school, the dietician has noted that I've never

given

> her fish (it's served once/week at school for other kids).

Obviously,

> I'm not going to raise the mercury subject yet (maybe never) but

don't

> want to lie either.

>

> Is everyone here totally off fish?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm about 90% certain tuna and salmon

consumption during pregnancy plus during

toddler age and breastfeeding gave my

daughter most of her autism and mercury.

We're totall off all high food chain (esp

predatory) fish, but sardines (check out

mybela.com for boneless skinnless ones)

are a favorite of my spouse and more

normal child and I let them continue.

Results of mercury in low food chain

fish is dramatically lower than high

food chain fish.

> >

> > Just wondering if there is any fish considered safe to eat,

> especially

> > for our mercury-toxic children.

> >

> > What about seaweed - nori & other algae? Is everything from the sea

> > unsafe for our kids?

> >

> > At my daughter's school, the dietician has noted that I've never

> given

> > her fish (it's served once/week at school for other kids).

> Obviously,

> > I'm not going to raise the mercury subject yet (maybe never) but

> don't

> > want to lie either.

> >

> > Is everyone here totally off fish?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We eat fish. As a matter of fact this week my daughter will eat tuna.

Tuna, maybe once every six months.

We love crablegs. We eat catfish nuggets. We eat shrimp, salmon, and

whitefish. We eat cod liver oil too. I love oysters. Yum. We love fishing

too, and if we catch fish in our local lakes we eat the fish and fry up the fish

eggs, it is a delicacy.

[Guest guest]

I like cheese.

>

> We eat fish. As a matter of fact this week my daughter will eat tuna.

>

> Tuna, maybe once every six months.

>

> We love crablegs. We eat catfish nuggets. We eat shrimp, salmon,

and whitefish. We eat cod liver oil too. I love oysters. Yum. We

love fishing too, and if we catch fish in our local lakes we eat the

fish and fry up the fish eggs, it is a delicacy.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We eat only wild pacific salmon maybe 2x month...but we're not big fish

eaters anyway. I only eat wild fish, no farmed fish. I'll eat lobster 1x

year when I'm in Maine, but, nothing from the Chesapeake Bay - EVER! Won't

even swim in it!

in MD

[ ] Do you or your kids still eat fish?

> Just wondering if there is any fish considered safe to eat, especially

> for our mercury-toxic children.

>

> What about seaweed - nori & other algae? Is everything from the sea

> unsafe for our kids?

>

> At my daughter's school, the dietician has noted that I've never given

> her fish (it's served once/week at school for other kids). Obviously,

> I'm not going to raise the mercury subject yet (maybe never) but don't

> want to lie either.

>

> Is everyone here totally off fish?

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I think so. They are not usually made of the " higher quality "

expensive fish.

Don't worry I ate them too! Not anymore.

> > >

> > > Just wondering if there is any fish considered safe to eat,

> > especially

> > > for our mercury-toxic children.

> > >

> > > What about seaweed - nori & other algae? Is everything from

the sea

> > > unsafe for our kids?

> > >

> > > At my daughter's school, the dietician has noted that I've

never

> > given

> > > her fish (it's served once/week at school for other kids).

> > Obviously,

> > > I'm not going to raise the mercury subject yet (maybe never)

but

> > don't

> > > want to lie either.

> > >

> > > Is everyone here totally off fish?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: kerbob1

I like cheese.

===>Hysterical, but please don't post anything this funny late at night.

>

> We eat fish. As a matter of fact this week my daughter will eat tuna.

>

> Tuna, maybe once every six months.

>

> We love crablegs. We eat catfish nuggets. We eat shrimp, salmon,

and whitefish. We eat cod liver oil too. I love oysters. Yum. We

love fishing too, and if we catch fish in our local lakes we eat the

fish and fry up the fish eggs, it is a delicacy.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The worst, most common ones are: king mackerel, bluefin tuna, swordfish, and

shark. Others include bluefish, wild striped bass, american eel, spotted

seatrout, weakfish (PCBs), atlantic croaker, atlantic salmon, white croaker.

The following are considered 'safe' to eat at least once/week: anchovies,

clams, dungeness crab, king crab (US), snow crab, pacific cod, crawfish,

atlantic herring (US/Canada), lobster (US/Baja/Canada/Australia), atlantic

mackerel, blue mussels, farmed oysters, wild alaskan salmon, sardines,

farmed scallops, shrimp (US/Canada), squid, tilapia (US/Central America),

farmed rainbow trout, canned tuns (light/skipjack)

from: http://www.oceansalive.org/eat.cfm?subnav=healthalerts

in MD

[ ] Re: Do you or your kids still eat fish?

>I think so. They are not usually made of the " higher quality "

> expensive fish.

> Don't worry I ate them too! Not anymore.

>

>> > >

>> > > Just wondering if there is any fish considered safe to eat,

>> > especially

>> > > for our mercury-toxic children.

>> > >

>> > > What about seaweed - nori & other algae? Is everything from

> the sea

>> > > unsafe for our kids?

>> > >

>> > > At my daughter's school, the dietician has noted that I've

> never

>> > given

>> > > her fish (it's served once/week at school for other kids).

>> > Obviously,

>> > > I'm not going to raise the mercury subject yet (maybe never)

> but

>> > don't

>> > > want to lie either.

>> > >

>> > > Is everyone here totally off fish?

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I am a new vegetarian. I've actually been 90% 'off fish' since my

son regressed in 2002. At the time, we lived in the Pacific

Northwest. I loved the seafood and really, really miss it. I do

cave in to my sushi cravings, but will choose either the non-fish

options or just have a few of the fish pieces. Sushi is the way I

get my fish these days. I'll sometimes take a few bites of Pacific

salmon.

My ASD son does not eat fish. My oldest son chooses not to eat

fish. My daughter is given the safer fish to eat about 2 times a

month. I do that as a concession to my husband (who still would

choose to eat fish daily). My daughter loves wild Alaskan salmon,

tilapia and the (very) rare tuna fish sandwich.

That is too much information. I do think all food from the sea is

likely contaminated in one way or another, but so is just about

everything we put in our mouths. I've tried to learn the items to

avoid completely.

I question why the school dietician is involved. Do they survey what

kids eat? How did she even get to the place of finding out your

daughter has never eaten fish? Did you go to HER for advice or is

this all unsolicited involvement? I would just tell her I have

concerns over the safety of seafood (especially when I don't have

control over purchasing and preparing it) and leave it at that...

even the government warns you about fish!

Pam

>

>

> I have no children. My husband and I are both vegan (no animal

products). My sister and I both went vegetarian and then vegan after

my father had his first heart attack at age 52. (He had his fatal one

at 66.) You could say something to the effect of " It doesn't agree

with her " .

> S S

>

> Do you or your kids still eat fish?

> Posted by: " iam2l84t " mam78@... iam2l84t

> Sat Oct 6, 2007 12:20 pm (PST)

>

> Just wondering if there is any fish considered safe to eat,

especially

> for our mercury-toxic children.

>

> What about seaweed - nori & other algae? Is everything from the sea

> unsafe for our kids?

>

> At my daughter's school, the dietician has noted that I've never

given

> her fish (it's served once/week at school for other kids).

Obviously,

> I'm not going to raise the mercury subject yet (maybe never) but

don't

> want to lie either.

>

> Is everyone here totally off fish?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Oh, man, . I really, really encourage you to learn about the

status of your local lakes before you continue to eat the fish that

swim there. I know each area has their own challenges, but I would not

eat fish from our lakes. Even pristine places can be very toxic.

There are safer ways to eat seafood. Some of your choices already fall

within that category as long as the salmon is Pacific. NEVER eat

Atlantic salmon; it is very, very polluted. Farmed oysters can be good

if they are from the right area. Shrimp can also be OK. Certain

whitefish is better than others. Tuna is best eaten rarely (which you

do).

There are lists out there that give you mercury levels of different

fish and crustaceans. Some fish are on the 'do not eat' list because

of overfishing and negative impact on environment (shrimp) rather than

toxicity.

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/interim-results-of-mercury-hai

Pam

>

> We eat fish. As a matter of fact this week my daughter will eat tuna.

>

> Tuna, maybe once every six months.

>

> We love crablegs. We eat catfish nuggets. We eat shrimp, salmon,

and whitefish. We eat cod liver oil too. I love oysters. Yum. We

love fishing too, and if we catch fish in our local lakes we eat the

fish and fry up the fish eggs, it is a delicacy.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the replies. We've been off fish for months now & I guess

we'll continue to stay away from it.

About the dietician, she just made a comment during lunch and my

daughter passed it on to me at home. My daughter is in a special ed

school in France and is the only child who packs a lunch. All others

eat the meals prepared there daily, which includes 4 courses meals

that the dietician overseas. The dietician has been peeking at my

daughter's meals since the start & I'm sure that I would have heard

from her by now if she felt that they weren't balanced. I gather she's

noted that I've never served fish. As I'm going there tomorrow to meet

some teachers, I wondered how I would respond if she asked me about it

(ie would I imply that we eat fish at home to end the conversation or

get into the topic of why we don't eat fish...)

Thanks for that Greenpeace site. On a different subject, I see they

have a mercury hair sampling project. Has anyone ever participated? Do

they use Andy's rules to determine toxicity?

[Guest guest]

Do fish sticks contain enough of anything to do damage? I ate these before I

knew I was pregnant but no fish after I knew. Just curious. I wasnt sure if

there was any real fish in them

[ ] Re: Do you or your kids still eat fish?

I'm about 90% certain tuna and salmon

consumption during pregnancy plus during

toddler age and breastfeeding gave my

daughter most of her autism and mercury.

We're totall off all high food chain (esp

predatory) fish, but sardines (check out

mybela.com for boneless skinnless ones)

are a favorite of my spouse and more

normal child and I let them continue.

Results of mercury in low food chain

fish is dramatically lower than high

food chain fish.

> >

> > Just wondering if there is any fish considered safe to eat,

> especially

> > for our mercury-toxic children.

> >

> > What about seaweed - nori & other algae? Is everything from the sea

> > unsafe for our kids?

> >

> > At my daughter's school, the dietician has noted that I've never

> given

> > her fish (it's served once/week at school for other kids).

> Obviously,

> > I'm not going to raise the mercury subject yet (maybe never) but

> don't

> > want to lie either.

> >

> > Is everyone here totally off fish?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

To make it easy you could just tell her you don't like fish. Not

everyone does. I never did.

Interesting that kids in France eat so well. I don't think I have

ever seen a dietitian in our school cafeteria and our lunches are

one course and it's small and doesn't fill the kids up. Everything

comes in little plastic dixie cup sized portions.

On comment for the mercury hair sampling thingy, some people don't

excrete mercury in their hair, like me and my kids. There were no

detecable levels, which means we store it all instead.

I have not heard of them using Andy's rules, they probably don't

even know what they are. I would have to check into it.

>

> Thanks for the replies. We've been off fish for months now & I

guess

> we'll continue to stay away from it.

>

> About the dietician, she just made a comment during lunch and my

> daughter passed it on to me at home. My daughter is in a special ed

> school in France and is the only child who packs a lunch. All

others

> eat the meals prepared there daily, which includes 4 courses meals

> that the dietician overseas. The dietician has been peeking at my

> daughter's meals since the start & I'm sure that I would have heard

> from her by now if she felt that they weren't balanced. I gather

she's

> noted that I've never served fish. As I'm going there tomorrow to

meet

> some teachers, I wondered how I would respond if she asked me

about it

> (ie would I imply that we eat fish at home to end the conversation

or

> get into the topic of why we don't eat fish...)

>

> Thanks for that Greenpeace site. On a different subject, I see they

> have a mercury hair sampling project. Has anyone ever

participated? Do

> they use Andy's rules to determine toxicity?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We very rarely have fish anymore, and if we do, my son usually has

chicken instead. You could tell the school that you are concerned

about the various contaminants in fish (mercury isn't the only problem)

and that you supplement purified fish oil to get the necessary EFAs.

Hopefully that would satisy her dietary concerns.

Carmen

>

> Just wondering if there is any fish considered safe to eat, especially

> for our mercury-toxic children.

>

> What about seaweed - nori & other algae? Is everything from the sea

> unsafe for our kids?

>

> At my daughter's school, the dietician has noted that I've never given

> her fish (it's served once/week at school for other kids). Obviously,

> I'm not going to raise the mercury subject yet (maybe never) but don't

> want to lie either.

>

> Is everyone here totally off fish?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, I didn't realize this wasn't a US school. Actually, it sounds

nice that a dietician pays attention to what our children eat at

school! I wish our lunches could be over-hauled.

The Greenpeace hair testing happened a few years ago if I remember

correctly. I highly doubt they used Andy as a reference.

Pam

>

> Thanks for the replies. We've been off fish for months now & I guess

> we'll continue to stay away from it.

>

> About the dietician, she just made a comment during lunch and my

> daughter passed it on to me at home. My daughter is in a special ed

> school in France and is the only child who packs a lunch. All others

> eat the meals prepared there daily, which includes 4 courses meals

> that the dietician overseas. The dietician has been peeking at my

> daughter's meals since the start & I'm sure that I would have heard

> from her by now if she felt that they weren't balanced. I gather

she's

> noted that I've never served fish. As I'm going there tomorrow to

meet

> some teachers, I wondered how I would respond if she asked me about

it

> (ie would I imply that we eat fish at home to end the conversation

or

> get into the topic of why we don't eat fish...)

>

> Thanks for that Greenpeace site. On a different subject, I see they

> have a mercury hair sampling project. Has anyone ever participated?

Do

> they use Andy's rules to determine toxicity?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I still eat fish: the only thing I've changed since my diagnosis is which

fish I eat. I used to eat mostly red/dark fish like tuna and salmon. Now I

eat mostly light/white fish like tilapia, whitefish and the occasional

fluke/flounder. I also eat shrimp, sardines, clams and oysters occasionally

and have been considering making sardines and oysters a more common

occurance in my diet.

-Lana

[Guest guest]

Probably imitation

[ ] Re: Do you or your kids still eat fish?

I think so. They are not usually made of the " higher quality "

expensive fish.

Don't worry I ate them too! Not anymore.

> > >

> > > Just wondering if there is any fish considered safe to eat,

> > especially

> > > for our mercury-toxic children.

> > >

> > > What about seaweed - nori & other algae? Is everything from

the sea

> > > unsafe for our kids?

> > >

> > > At my daughter's school, the dietician has noted that I've

never

> > given

> > > her fish (it's served once/week at school for other kids).

> > Obviously,

> > > I'm not going to raise the mercury subject yet (maybe never)

but

> > don't

> > > want to lie either.

> > >

> > > Is everyone here totally off fish?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've never been a big fish eater but the first step was no more

sushi, definitely. Then I stopped eating even the low-mercury salt

water fish the second time I had a blood pressure dip right after

eating a fried fish dinner in a restaurant. I could barely get up

from the table for twenty minutes and became temporarily half-deaf

(not kidding). Normally I have ears like a bat and I'm hardly a

fainting lily. I've heard this can be a sign of an actual fish

allergy, but from having once lived near a coal-fired power plant, I

equate the severe weakness/tanking blood pressure to hg

sensitivity.

>

> I still eat fish: the only thing I've changed since my diagnosis

is which

> fish I eat. I used to eat mostly red/dark fish like tuna and

salmon. Now I

> eat mostly light/white fish like tilapia, whitefish and the

occasional

> fluke/flounder. I also eat shrimp, sardines, clams and oysters

occasionally

> and have been considering making sardines and oysters a more common

> occurance in my diet.

>

> -Lana

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: kerbob1

>

> I like cheese.

>

> ===>Hysterical, but please don't post anything this funny late at

night.

>

>

oh,my! Just have to add my Ditto to that! I am playing catchup on

posts, it is late, and I am still sooo rolling from this one

post...t'anks for the smiles!

elizabeth