DDI hair test results 4.5yo after 2yrs biomed.

February 15, 2007

My daughter is 4.5yo. She has been doing biomed for 2 yrs. Her

first hair test was easy (easier) to read. What about this one? She

has had large attitude and behavior changes for the worse. We did

another hair test just to check after a couple of years. Is this

good or bad? Thank you all for any replies.

POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

element result ref range color

=============================================

aluminum 6.3 <8.0 green

antimony 0.079 <0.066 yellow

arsenic 0.12 <0.080 yellow

beryllium <0.01 <0.020

bismuth 0.023 <0.13 green

cadmium <0.009 <0.10

lead 0.31 <1.0 green

mercury 0.58 <0.40 yellow

platinum <0.003 <0.005

thallium <0.001 <0.010

thorium 0.001 <0.005 green

uranium 0.002 <0.060 green

nickel 0.11 <0.40 green

silver 0.45 <0.20 yellow

tin 0.60 <0.30 yellow

titanium 0.37 <1.0 green

ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

element result ref range color under/over 50%

============================================================

Calcium 204 140-500 green under

Magnesium 18 15-45 green under

Sodium 49 12-90 green over

Potassium 52 9-60 green over

Copper 24 10-22 green over

Zinc 140 100-190 green over

Manganese 0.19 0.20-0.55 yellow under

Chromium 0.41 0.26-0.50 green over

Vanadium 0.025 0.030-0.10 yellow under

Molybdenum 0.056 0.048-0.13 green under

Boron 1.1 0.35-3.0 white

Iodine 0.31 0.25-1.3 green under

Lithium 0.007 0.007-0.023 green under

Phosphorus 162 160-250 green under

Selenium 1.2 0.95-1.7 white

Strontium 0.27 0.19-2.0 green under

Sulfur 47000 45500-53000 green under

Barium 0.64 0.16-1.2 green over

Cobalt 0.006 0.013-0.035 red under

Iron 8.5 8.0-19 green under

Germanium 0.029 0.045-0.065 yellow under

Rubidium 0.076 0.012-0.16 green over

Zirconium 1.0 0.030-1.0 green over

February 16, 2007

Tell us what you mean by biomed: supplements? which ones? chelation? what

chelator, route, dose, and dosing schedule? diet? which one? GFCF? SCD?

Feingold? other?

have you identified and reduced/removed sources of exposure to antimony,

arsenic, mercury, silver and tin? www.danasview.net/metals has a comprehensive

list of sources of exposure.

My daughter is 4.5yo. She has been doing biomed for 2 yrs. Her

first hair test was easy (easier) to read. What about this one? She

has had large attitude and behavior changes for the worse. We did

another hair test just to check after a couple of years. Is this

good or bad? Thank you all for any replies.

POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

element result ref range color

=============================================

aluminum 6.3 <8.0 green

antimony 0.079 <0.066 yellow

arsenic 0.12 <0.080 yellow

beryllium <0.01 <0.020

bismuth 0.023 <0.13 green

cadmium <0.009 <0.10

lead 0.31 <1.0 green

mercury 0.58 <0.40 yellow

platinum <0.003 <0.005

thallium <0.001 <0.010

thorium 0.001 <0.005 green

uranium 0.002 <0.060 green

nickel 0.11 <0.40 green

silver 0.45 <0.20 yellow

tin 0.60 <0.30 yellow

titanium 0.37 <1.0 green

ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

element result ref range color under/over 50%

=======================================================\

=====

Calcium 204 140-500 green under

Magnesium 18 15-45 green under

Sodium 49 12-90 green over

Potassium 52 9-60 green over

Copper 24 10-22 green over

Zinc 140 100-190 green over

Manganese 0.19 0.20-0.55 yellow under

Chromium 0.41 0.26-0.50 green over

Vanadium 0.025 0.030-0.10 yellow under

Molybdenum 0.056 0.048-0.13 green under

Boron 1.1 0.35-3.0 white

Iodine 0.31 0.25-1.3 green under

Lithium 0.007 0.007-0.023 green under

Phosphorus 162 160-250 green under

Selenium 1.2 0.95-1.7 white

Strontium 0.27 0.19-2.0 green under

Sulfur 47000 45500-53000 green under

Barium 0.64 0.16-1.2 green over

Cobalt 0.006 0.013-0.035 red under

Iron 8.5 8.0-19 green under

Germanium 0.029 0.045-0.065 yellow under

Rubidium 0.076 0.012-0.16 green over

Zirconium 1.0 0.030-1.0 green over

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February 16, 2007

Thank you so much for writing back!

She is GFCF and Feingold. She has been on many supplements. We have taken a

break on most due to taking a break because of behaviors. Right now taurine,

GABA, lithium, magneisium, B6, kirkmans multi vite, CLO, 5HTP, melatonin,

probiotics.

We have tried TD-DMPS. After a month and a half she had regressed to not

communicating and was so unhappy we stopped. Now her behavior is so bad and she

is unhappy again and soooo hyper we need to do something.

We have stopped all vaccines and seizure meds. Her mercury has gone down

since the last test. But copper and silver came out of nowhere. She was not

high in that before. Her arsenic has stayed the same. And her antimony has

went up. We have not taken away " pajamas, matresses, sheets, etc. " yet. That

is the only source of the antimony I can think of. Should we start trying to

chelate again?

Could any of these things/metals cause her new issues?

Keri

Shepard Salzer <_Shepard@...> wrote:

Tell us what you mean by biomed: supplements? which ones? chelation? what

chelator, route, dose, and dosing schedule? diet? which one? GFCF? SCD?

Feingold? other?

have you identified and reduced/removed sources of exposure to antimony,

arsenic, mercury, silver and tin? www.danasview.net/metals has a comprehensive

list of sources of exposure.

My daughter is 4.5yo. She has been doing biomed for 2 yrs. Her

first hair test was easy (easier) to read. What about this one? She

has had large attitude and behavior changes for the worse. We did

another hair test just to check after a couple of years. Is this

good or bad? Thank you all for any replies.

POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

element result ref range color

=============================================

aluminum 6.3 <8.0 green

antimony 0.079 <0.066 yellow

arsenic 0.12 <0.080 yellow

beryllium <0.01 <0.020

bismuth 0.023 <0.13 green

cadmium <0.009 <0.10

lead 0.31 <1.0 green

mercury 0.58 <0.40 yellow

platinum <0.003 <0.005

thallium <0.001 <0.010

thorium 0.001 <0.005 green

uranium 0.002 <0.060 green

nickel 0.11 <0.40 green

silver 0.45 <0.20 yellow

tin 0.60 <0.30 yellow

titanium 0.37 <1.0 green

ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

element result ref range color under/over 50%

=======================================================\

=====

Calcium 204 140-500 green under

Magnesium 18 15-45 green under

Sodium 49 12-90 green over

Potassium 52 9-60 green over

Copper 24 10-22 green over

Zinc 140 100-190 green over

Manganese 0.19 0.20-0.55 yellow under

Chromium 0.41 0.26-0.50 green over

Vanadium 0.025 0.030-0.10 yellow under

Molybdenum 0.056 0.048-0.13 green under

Boron 1.1 0.35-3.0 white

Iodine 0.31 0.25-1.3 green under

Lithium 0.007 0.007-0.023 green under

Phosphorus 162 160-250 green under

Selenium 1.2 0.95-1.7 white

Strontium 0.27 0.19-2.0 green under

Sulfur 47000 45500-53000 green under

Barium 0.64 0.16-1.2 green over

Cobalt 0.006 0.013-0.035 red under

Iron 8.5 8.0-19 green under

Germanium 0.029 0.045-0.065 yellow under

Rubidium 0.076 0.012-0.16 green over

Zirconium 1.0 0.030-1.0 green over

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February 16, 2007

Keri,

Your daughter's hair test shows adrenal fatigue. The same thing

happened to my son and his behaviour worsened considerably. If you

do a search of the recent messages this issue has been addressed in

quite a bit of detail.

I would start supplementing her with adrenal cortex extract. This is

a recommended brand.

http://www.vitacost.com/NutriCologyOrganicAdrenalCortex

Start slowly and work up. As a reference, my son weighs 36 pounds

and uses 500 mgs a day now spread over three doses at breakfast,

lunch, supper (with food). It has made a big difference for him--he

is much happier again.

If you used the wrong dosing schedule with the td-dmps this could

also make things worse. When you begin chelation again please

consult with the information in the files section here and with

people on the board.

I would also strongly suggest you do what you can for the antimony,

as it is also in carpets, furniture, etc. It is a big problem for

many kids and sleep stuff is one of the things that is easier to

control.

Best wishes,

Anita

>

> Thank you so much for writing back!

> She is GFCF and Feingold. She has been on many supplements. We

have taken a break on most due to taking a break because of

behaviors. Right now taurine, GABA, lithium, magneisium, B6,

kirkmans multi vite, CLO, 5HTP, melatonin, probiotics.

>

> We have tried TD-DMPS. After a month and a half she had

regressed to not communicating and was so unhappy we stopped. Now

her behavior is so bad and she is unhappy again and soooo hyper we

need to do something.

>

> We have stopped all vaccines and seizure meds. Her mercury has

gone down since the last test. But copper and silver came out of

nowhere. She was not high in that before. Her arsenic has stayed

the same. And her antimony has went up. We have not taken

away " pajamas, matresses, sheets, etc. " yet. That is the only source

of the antimony I can think of. Should we start trying to chelate

again?

>

> Could any of these things/metals cause her new issues?

>

February 16, 2007

Can you explain to me more about adrenal fatigue? Why does it happen? How or

what do the tests show to prove that? As far as the TD-DMPS we tried smaller

doses and different schedules but nothing seemed to help. It was like once she

got used to it she went back to the way she was on the larger dose. What do you

think about the rest of the hair test?

Thank you for your reply. Feel free to email me privately too! I am

overwhelmed with both kids having extreme opposite issues.

Keri

Anita <mysuperteach@...> wrote:

Keri,

Your daughter's hair test shows adrenal fatigue. The same thing

happened to my son and his behaviour worsened considerably. If you

do a search of the recent messages this issue has been addressed in

quite a bit of detail.

I would start supplementing her with adrenal cortex extract. This is

a recommended brand.

http://www.vitacost.com/NutriCologyOrganicAdrenalCortex

Start slowly and work up. As a reference, my son weighs 36 pounds

and uses 500 mgs a day now spread over three doses at breakfast,

lunch, supper (with food). It has made a big difference for him--he

is much happier again.

If you used the wrong dosing schedule with the td-dmps this could

also make things worse. When you begin chelation again please

consult with the information in the files section here and with

people on the board.

I would also strongly suggest you do what you can for the antimony,

as it is also in carpets, furniture, etc. It is a big problem for

many kids and sleep stuff is one of the things that is easier to

control.

Best wishes,

Anita

>

> Thank you so much for writing back!

> She is GFCF and Feingold. She has been on many supplements. We

have taken a break on most due to taking a break because of

behaviors. Right now taurine, GABA, lithium, magneisium, B6,

kirkmans multi vite, CLO, 5HTP, melatonin, probiotics.

>

> We have tried TD-DMPS. After a month and a half she had

regressed to not communicating and was so unhappy we stopped. Now

her behavior is so bad and she is unhappy again and soooo hyper we

need to do something.

>

> We have stopped all vaccines and seizure meds. Her mercury has

gone down since the last test. But copper and silver came out of

nowhere. She was not high in that before. Her arsenic has stayed

the same. And her antimony has went up. We have not taken

away " pajamas, matresses, sheets, etc. " yet. That is the only source

of the antimony I can think of. Should we start trying to chelate

again?

>

> Could any of these things/metals cause her new issues?

>

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February 16, 2007

Keri,

Please see these two posts. 189034 and 195792. They will help.

On the hair test, if cal/mag go one way and sod/pot go the other,

that is adrenal fatigue. IME, if the test already shows that, then

the adrenal fatigue has been around for some time and is worsening.

You need to support the adrenals, probably long term, until your

child's body isn't toxic anymore, which means a lot of chelation.

From everything I've read, I would not waste my time with TD-DMPS.

It worked well for a few, but not most. I would start using oral

chelators like ALA or DMSA on Andy's protocol.

As far as the rest of the hair test, it doesn't say much to me. I

believe that Andy says that the cobalt has nothing to do with B12 in

the body. But our experience here, regardless of whether it makes

sense for the test was that our son was low on cobalt too and I spent

a long time trying to get MB12 in him orally with no gains

behaviourally. We have recently started MB12 injections and are

seeing good things from them. You may want to consider getting MB12

in your child in some form. It is a pretty crucial part of many body

functions and test or no test, most autistic kids are low.

Anita

> >

> > Thank you so much for writing back!

> > She is GFCF and Feingold. She has been on many supplements. We

> have taken a break on most due to taking a break because of

> behaviors. Right now taurine, GABA, lithium, magneisium, B6,

> kirkmans multi vite, CLO, 5HTP, melatonin, probiotics.

> >

> > We have tried TD-DMPS. After a month and a half she had

> regressed to not communicating and was so unhappy we stopped. Now

> her behavior is so bad and she is unhappy again and soooo hyper we

> need to do something.

> >

> > We have stopped all vaccines and seizure meds. Her mercury has

> gone down since the last test. But copper and silver came out of

> nowhere. She was not high in that before. Her arsenic has stayed

> the same. And her antimony has went up. We have not taken

> away " pajamas, matresses, sheets, etc. " yet. That is the only

source

> of the antimony I can think of. Should we start trying to chelate

> again?

> >

> > Could any of these things/metals cause her new issues?

> >

>

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February 16, 2007

Actually, Keri, I'd like to amend my answer. The toxic metals part

of the test does say something to me. If you think that your

daughter is metal toxic, her hair test really doesn't show much

coming out. Only mercury. To me, this would be a bad sign. My

son's toxic metal results for his hair have been steadily rising

because we chelate--and I must emphasize that his exposure would be

as minimal as a person can make it in this day and age. This part of

his test looks MUCH worse than the very first test we did before

chelation. My point is your daughter doesn't seem to be excreting

much per the hair test. A good reason to get back into chelation.

Anita

>

> Keri,

>

> Please see these two posts. 189034 and 195792. They will help.

>

> On the hair test, if cal/mag go one way and sod/pot go the other,

> that is adrenal fatigue. IME, if the test already shows that, then

> the adrenal fatigue has been around for some time and is worsening.

>

> You need to support the adrenals, probably long term, until your

> child's body isn't toxic anymore, which means a lot of chelation.

>

> From everything I've read, I would not waste my time with TD-DMPS.

> It worked well for a few, but not most. I would start using oral

> chelators like ALA or DMSA on Andy's protocol.

>

> As far as the rest of the hair test, it doesn't say much to me. I

> believe that Andy says that the cobalt has nothing to do with B12

in

> the body. But our experience here, regardless of whether it makes

> sense for the test was that our son was low on cobalt too and I

spent

> a long time trying to get MB12 in him orally with no gains

> behaviourally. We have recently started MB12 injections and are

> seeing good things from them. You may want to consider getting

MB12

> in your child in some form. It is a pretty crucial part of many

body

> functions and test or no test, most autistic kids are low.

>

> Anita

>

February 16, 2007

Okay I have read up a bit on the adrenal fatigue and it makes

sense...for both of my kiddos and myself. Anyhow...I tried the MB12

shots for about a year and the gains stopped and there was more

fighting than it was worth. We stopped and didn't see anything

change either. Perhaps we need to start. I do think adrenal support

is a great idea.

Keri

-- In , " Anita " <mysuperteach@...>

wrote:

>

> Actually, Keri, I'd like to amend my answer. The toxic metals part

> of the test does say something to me. If you think that your

> daughter is metal toxic, her hair test really doesn't show much

> coming out. Only mercury. To me, this would be a bad sign. My

> son's toxic metal results for his hair have been steadily rising

> because we chelate--and I must emphasize that his exposure would be

> as minimal as a person can make it in this day and age. This part

of

> his test looks MUCH worse than the very first test we did before

> chelation. My point is your daughter doesn't seem to be excreting

> much per the hair test. A good reason to get back into chelation.

>

> Anita

>

> >

> > Keri,

> >

> > Please see these two posts. 189034 and 195792. They will help.

> >

> > On the hair test, if cal/mag go one way and sod/pot go the other,

> > that is adrenal fatigue. IME, if the test already shows that,

then

> > the adrenal fatigue has been around for some time and is

worsening.

> >

> > You need to support the adrenals, probably long term, until your

> > child's body isn't toxic anymore, which means a lot of chelation.

> >

> > From everything I've read, I would not waste my time with TD-

DMPS.

> > It worked well for a few, but not most. I would start using oral

> > chelators like ALA or DMSA on Andy's protocol.

> >

> > As far as the rest of the hair test, it doesn't say much to me.

I

> > believe that Andy says that the cobalt has nothing to do with B12

> in

> > the body. But our experience here, regardless of whether it

makes

> > sense for the test was that our son was low on cobalt too and I

> spent

> > a long time trying to get MB12 in him orally with no gains

> > behaviourally. We have recently started MB12 injections and are

> > seeing good things from them. You may want to consider getting

> MB12

> > in your child in some form. It is a pretty crucial part of many

> body

> > functions and test or no test, most autistic kids are low.

> >

> > Anita

> >

>

February 16, 2007

Just a slightly different take on adrenal support. We do give the Nutricology

Adrenal Cortex and have used as many as 3 per day but could never see that it

made any difference. But we have kept 1.5 capsules in her daily mix out of blind

loyalty to what Andy recommends and under the heading " It won't hurt her. "

What has been advantageous is lots of Vitamin C, pantethine and also

phosphatidylserine, which I understand is a cortisol balancer and that may hold

the key as to why we never saw any difference with the ACE. It could be her

cortisol which may be adequate maybe? just bounces around and needs to be

steadied. I have no way to know if this is a fact or just my imagination.

Her adrenals were so bad in the beginning they looked like the worst case

scenario in Andy's book and she was hyperactive to the max. She is now very

relaxed and comfortable to be around, plenty of energy but no longer is it

exhausting to just watch her.

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