Re: Arsenic question re hair analysis

[Guest guest]

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from the center below spoke. I was very impressed with what they had

to say. You might consider having a consultation with them. One of

their autistic patients had seen 17 or 19 doctors, who had given up on

him, and told the parents to institutionalize him. The center helped

him considerably.

Best wishes.

http://www.homeopathyhouston.com/homeopathy%20_autism/autism.html

-- In , Aliza Ratterree

<alizaratterree@...> wrote:

>

> Our psychiatrist just called us (he ordered the hair analysis for

us), and I suppose since it's after 9:00 PM our time, he felt it was

important that I hear some information that the test revealed before

he actually gave me the report.

> He said my daughter tested in the 95th percentile for arsenic, also

very high for uranium (and I think cadmium). I have read that the

presence of uranium intensifies the toxicity of arsenic. Also, levels

of calcium, copper, magnesium and manganese are very low. So is

cobalt, but I have never heard of what cobalt does or on what it has

an effect.

>

> I am extremely alarmed that the level of arsenic would be that high.

I have a phone intake tomorrow to get my daughter into Thoughtful

House in Austin, but I am concerned about having to wait for an actual

physical appointment. Houston doesn't seem to have any physicians

that are qualified to help us. Any comments would be appreciated.

>

> Thank you,

> Aliza

>

>

[Guest guest]

My arsenic was off-the-charts high. Pesticides played a role for

me. I lived and worked next door to a cotton field in TX which was

sprayed from the air. I also volunteered with a family whose

backyard abutted a golf course (and all three members of the family

later found out they were arsenic toxic.) Orchards are also

generally heavily sprayed with pesticides. ALA chelates arsenic but

it can take a long time. Identify and reduce/remove sources of

exposure. Do you have any of the old (7+ years) pressure treated

lumber (playground equipment, deck, etc? That contains arsenic.

Was it a DDI hair elements test? Make sure to apply the counting

rules.

S S

>

> Our psychiatrist just called us (he ordered the hair analysis for

us), and I suppose since it's after 9:00 PM our time, he felt it was

important that I hear some information that the test revealed before

he actually gave me the report.

> He said my daughter tested in the 95th percentile for arsenic, also

very high for uranium (and I think cadmium). I have read that the

presence of uranium intensifies the toxicity of arsenic. Also,

levels of calcium, copper, magnesium and manganese are very low. So

is cobalt, but I have never heard of what cobalt does or on what it

has an effect.

>

> I am extremely alarmed that the level of arsenic would be that

high. I have a phone intake tomorrow to get my daughter into

Thoughtful House in Austin, but I am concerned about having to wait

for an actual physical appointment. Houston doesn't seem to have any

physicians that are qualified to help us. Any comments would be

appreciated.

>

> Thank you,

> Aliza

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son's hair arsenic levels were extremely high for a long time, also urinary

excretion a month after we started chelating. It took us many years and a lot

of cycles to bring this down. Check your environment--does he eat a lot of

store-bought chicken? Do you have any wood around you made of green-treated

lumber? Do you live near a golf course? Was your house built on a former

orchard? Are you drinking well water, near agricultural land?

We took off our three-year old deck and replaced it with " regular " wood.

Barb

[ ] Arsenic question re hair analysis

Our psychiatrist just called us (he ordered the hair analysis for us), and I

suppose since it's after 9:00 PM our time, he felt it was important that I hear

some information that the test revealed before he actually gave me the report.

He said my daughter tested in the 95th percentile for arsenic, also very high

for uranium (and I think cadmium). I have read that the presence of uranium

intensifies the toxicity of arsenic. Also, levels of calcium, copper, magnesium

and manganese are very low. So is cobalt, but I have never heard of what cobalt

does or on what it has an effect.

I am extremely alarmed that the level of arsenic would be that high. I have a

phone intake tomorrow to get my daughter into Thoughtful House in Austin, but I

am concerned about having to wait for an actual physical appointment. Houston

doesn't seem to have any physicians that are qualified to help us. Any comments

would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Aliza

[Guest guest]

Hi Aliza,

Was this a Doctor's Data, Inc. Hair Elements Test? If so, you would

need to see if your daughter meets Andy's counting rules. This

information is necessary to give a meaningful opinion regarding

elevated arsenic. If your daughter does not meet the counting

rules, the elevated aresenic becomes much more significant. If she

does meet the counting rules, indicating the likelihood of deranged

mineral transport, the elevated arsenic may or may not be of

concern, unless it is an all low hairtest and then the elevated

arsenic becomes more significant. Hope that makes sense.

Gladioli

>

> Our psychiatrist just called us (he ordered the hair analysis for

us), and I suppose since it's after 9:00 PM our time, he felt it was

important that I hear some information that the test revealed before

he actually gave me the report.

> He said my daughter tested in the 95th percentile for arsenic,

also very high for uranium (and I think cadmium). I have read that

the presence of uranium intensifies the toxicity of arsenic. Also,

levels of calcium, copper, magnesium and manganese are very low. So

is cobalt, but I have never heard of what cobalt does or on what it

has an effect.

>

> I am extremely alarmed that the level of arsenic would be that

high. I have a phone intake tomorrow to get my daughter into

Thoughtful House in Austin, but I am concerned about having to wait

for an actual physical appointment. Houston doesn't seem to have

any physicians that are qualified to help us. Any comments would be

appreciated.

>

> Thank you,

> Aliza

>

>

[Guest guest]

Don't forget about your child's mattress, it is full of chemicals.

jromkema <jromkema@...> wrote:

My son's hair arsenic levels were extremely high for a long time, also

urinary excretion a month after we started chelating. It took us many years and

a lot of cycles to bring this down. Check your environment--does he eat a lot of

store-bought chicken? Do you have any wood around you made of green-treated

lumber? Do you live near a golf course? Was your house built on a former

orchard? Are you drinking well water, near agricultural land?

We took off our three-year old deck and replaced it with " regular " wood.

Barb

[ ] Arsenic question re hair analysis

Our psychiatrist just called us (he ordered the hair analysis for us), and I

suppose since it's after 9:00 PM our time, he felt it was important that I hear

some information that the test revealed before he actually gave me the report.

He said my daughter tested in the 95th percentile for arsenic, also very high

for uranium (and I think cadmium). I have read that the presence of uranium

intensifies the toxicity of arsenic. Also, levels of calcium, copper, magnesium

and manganese are very low. So is cobalt, but I have never heard of what cobalt

does or on what it has an effect.

I am extremely alarmed that the level of arsenic would be that high. I have a

phone intake tomorrow to get my daughter into Thoughtful House in Austin, but I

am concerned about having to wait for an actual physical appointment. Houston

doesn't seem to have any physicians that are qualified to help us. Any comments

would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Aliza

[Guest guest]

What chemicals can be in the mattress? Can child be protected by the plastic

cover over the mattress. Arsenic is also big problem for us, can't figure out

where it's coming from.

Thanks for all suggestions...

k k <aprilblue10@...> wrote:

Don't forget about your child's mattress, it is full of chemicals.

jromkema <jromkema@...> wrote:

My son's hair arsenic levels were extremely high for a long time, also urinary

excretion a month after we started chelating. It took us many years and a lot of

cycles to bring this down. Check your environment--does he eat a lot of

store-bought chicken? Do you have any wood around you made of green-treated

lumber? Do you live near a golf course? Was your house built on a former

orchard? Are you drinking well water, near agricultural land?

We took off our three-year old deck and replaced it with " regular " wood.

Barb

[ ] Arsenic question re hair analysis

Our psychiatrist just called us (he ordered the hair analysis for us), and I

suppose since it's after 9:00 PM our time, he felt it was important that I hear

some information that the test revealed before he actually gave me the report.

He said my daughter tested in the 95th percentile for arsenic, also very high

for uranium (and I think cadmium). I have read that the presence of uranium

intensifies the toxicity of arsenic. Also, levels of calcium, copper, magnesium

and manganese are very low. So is cobalt, but I have never heard of what cobalt

does or on what it has an effect.

I am extremely alarmed that the level of arsenic would be that high. I have a

phone intake tomorrow to get my daughter into Thoughtful House in Austin, but I

am concerned about having to wait for an actual physical appointment. Houston

doesn't seem to have any physicians that are qualified to help us. Any comments

would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Aliza

[Guest guest]

Antimony is used as flame retardant. You need a prescription to get one that is

chemical-

free. I was able to get a prescription from my NAET practitioner for my futon.

It has to be

a certain kind of plastic cover. Arsenic is used as stain resistant in nearly

all upholstered

furniture, carpet, drapes, etc.

S S

> My son's hair arsenic levels were extremely high for a long time, also urinary

excretion a

month after we started chelating. It took us many years and a lot of cycles to

bring this

down. Check your environment--does he eat a lot of store-bought chicken? Do you

have

any wood around you made of green-treated lumber? Do you live near a golf

course? Was

your house built on a former orchard? Are you drinking well water, near

agricultural land?

>

> We took off our three-year old deck and replaced it with " regular " wood.

>

> Barb

> [ ] Arsenic question re hair analysis

>

> Our psychiatrist just called us (he ordered the hair analysis for us), and I

suppose since

it's after 9:00 PM our time, he felt it was important that I hear some

information that the

test revealed before he actually gave me the report.

> He said my daughter tested in the 95th percentile for arsenic, also very high

for uranium

(and I think cadmium). I have read that the presence of uranium intensifies the

toxicity of

arsenic. Also, levels of calcium, copper, magnesium and manganese are very low.

So is

cobalt, but I have never heard of what cobalt does or on what it has an effect.

>

> I am extremely alarmed that the level of arsenic would be that high. I have a

phone

intake tomorrow to get my daughter into Thoughtful House in Austin, but I am

concerned

about having to wait for an actual physical appointment. Houston doesn't seem to

have

any physicians that are qualified to help us. Any comments would be appreciated.

>

> Thank you,

> Aliza

>

>

[Guest guest]

Do you have a deck? Any older pressure treated lumber contains

arsenic. That includes those climbing play yards many bought in the

90's. Unless they are cedar or bought recently. Also check your

soil. Do you live near any farms or orchards? Are you on old farm

land or orchard land? Arsenic is a pesticide. And was often used to

spray on fruit trees. People put it on their lawns. Do you live

near a golf course, or have your lawn treated? Do neighbors have

their's treated? Have you checked your water? Soil? What do you live

near? Do you eat a lot of chicken? Arsenic is fed to them as

parasite control. Switch to organic chicken if you can afford to.

Also consider that if your child's test met counting rules, it can

show elevated arsenic and other metals which are high because the

mercury is there.

Mattress chemicals: antimony, brominated flame retardants, also

known as polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDEs), boric acid

penta-BDE, is banned in Europe but is used in polyurethane foam of

furniture and building materials in the US. We have the highest

concentrations in our bodies in the world. It is linked to brain and

development problems in infants/children.

read: http://www.ecolivingcenter.com/articles/flameretardants.html

Too make it better, polyeurethane foam used in beds emits toluene.

yucky.

TheGreenGuide.com is a good site to read about this stuff.

Another site I just checked says that most manufactures do not treat

sheets, blankets etc. But I don't beleive it because if you check

tags, your comforter will tell you it meets federal guidelines for

bedding, furnishing or something like that. Or that it meets

flammablility guidelines.

Unless you buy the t'shirt sheets that are 100% cotton.

You can cover the mattress in polyethylene sheeting. Not pvc plastic

(the cheap stuff). It must be polyethylene, the thickest mil you can

find. Check the home center. You want to wrap the mattress. How they

do this is to take the polyethylene sheeting and wrap the mattress

around. Covering the sides, sleeps surfaces and the top end. Leave

the bottom end open to allow the mattress to breath, or you could

get mold issues. The only way you can wrap the whole thing is if

it's brand new right out of the package. You secure the plastic with

duct tape. Then you should use only cotton sheets, blankets,

pillows, stuff you know is not flame retardant. You can also

purchase a cotton mattress pad to put on top of the plastic to

insure that they are not in close contact to the plastic. You need

to order this, as I have not seen one in any store that is not

treated. While no plastic is totally chem free, it is better than

what's on the mattress. You could also order a latex mattress for

about $160+ shipping form ikea.

> My son's hair arsenic levels were extremely high for a long time,

also urinary excretion a month after we started chelating. It took

us many years and a lot of cycles to bring this down. Check your

environment--does he eat a lot of store-bought chicken? Do you have

any wood around you made of green-treated lumber? Do you live near a

golf course? Was your house built on a former orchard? Are you

drinking well water, near agricultural land?

>

> We took off our three-year old deck and replaced it with " regular "

wood.

>

> Barb

> [ ] Arsenic question re hair analysis

>

> Our psychiatrist just called us (he ordered the hair analysis for

us), and I suppose since it's after 9:00 PM our time, he felt it was

important that I hear some information that the test revealed before

he actually gave me the report.

> He said my daughter tested in the 95th percentile for arsenic,

also very high for uranium (and I think cadmium). I have read that

the presence of uranium intensifies the toxicity of arsenic. Also,

levels of calcium, copper, magnesium and manganese are very low. So

is cobalt, but I have never heard of what cobalt does or on what it

has an effect.

>

> I am extremely alarmed that the level of arsenic would be that

high. I have a phone intake tomorrow to get my daughter into

Thoughtful House in Austin, but I am concerned about having to wait

for an actual physical appointment. Houston doesn't seem to have any

physicians that are qualified to help us. Any comments would be

appreciated.

>

> Thank you,

> Aliza

>

>

[Guest guest]

I strongly urge you to get a color copy of this test and post the

results on this board or upload it into the files. Before you freak

out about the arsenic it's important to see what else is going on.

If it meets counting rules, mercury can drive up the levels of other

metals in the hair. My son was screaming high in aluminum, antimony,

arsenic, lead, silver, tin and some cadmium. But he is mercury

toxic. This will cause you to retain these other metals even though

your exposure levels on not any higher than anyone elses.

And most hair tests do look high in uranium. Unless it's over 0.5

Andy says not to worry about it. If it is over that then taking iron

can reduce it. However, keep in mind that mercury toxics should not

consume iron. Uranium levels are also selective to where you live.

Some areas people have highter levels than others. My hair test

looked to be very high in uranium, all the way red. But the level

was still below 0.5. So it was actually normal. It says to switch to

bottled water and don't eat from any ceramic that is yellow glazed.

All those low minerals may not be significant if her test meets

counting rules..again we need to see it! To give you an accurate

picture of whats' going on and what shee needs. I don't beleive

psychiatrists know about Andy's and counting rules for hair

elements. So he may focus on what's red, not what it means.

Also if she meets counting rules for mercury, those low minerals are

not really low. So try to stay calm, ask for a color copy of the

test...post it or upload it..or email it to me or any of the other

ladies here...we can interpret it for you.

>

> Our psychiatrist just called us (he ordered the hair analysis for

us), and I suppose since it's after 9:00 PM our time, he felt it was

important that I hear some information that the test revealed before

he actually gave me the report.

> He said my daughter tested in the 95th percentile for arsenic,

also very high for uranium (and I think cadmium). I have read that

the presence of uranium intensifies the toxicity of arsenic. Also,

levels of calcium, copper, magnesium and manganese are very low. So

is cobalt, but I have never heard of what cobalt does or on what it

has an effect.

>

> I am extremely alarmed that the level of arsenic would be that

high. I have a phone intake tomorrow to get my daughter into

Thoughtful House in Austin, but I am concerned about having to wait

for an actual physical appointment. Houston doesn't seem to have

any physicians that are qualified to help us. Any comments would be

appreciated.

>

> Thank you,

> Aliza

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wash or peal the skin off of any fruit.

Most still contain arsenic.

Tedd

> > My son's hair arsenic levels were extremely high for a long time,

> also urinary excretion a month after we started chelating. It took

> us many years and a lot of cycles to bring this down. Check your

> environment--does he eat a lot of store-bought chicken? Do you have

> any wood around you made of green-treated lumber? Do you live near a

> golf course? Was your house built on a former orchard? Are you

> drinking well water, near agricultural land?

> >

> > We took off our three-year old deck and replaced it with " regular "

> wood.

> >

> > Barb

> > [ ] Arsenic question re hair analysis

> >

> > Our psychiatrist just called us (he ordered the hair analysis for

> us), and I suppose since it's after 9:00 PM our time, he felt it was

> important that I hear some information that the test revealed before

> he actually gave me the report.

> > He said my daughter tested in the 95th percentile for arsenic,

> also very high for uranium (and I think cadmium). I have read that

> the presence of uranium intensifies the toxicity of arsenic. Also,

> levels of calcium, copper, magnesium and manganese are very low. So

> is cobalt, but I have never heard of what cobalt does or on what it

> has an effect.

> >

> > I am extremely alarmed that the level of arsenic would be that

> high. I have a phone intake tomorrow to get my daughter into

> Thoughtful House in Austin, but I am concerned about having to wait

> for an actual physical appointment. Houston doesn't seem to have any

> physicians that are qualified to help us. Any comments would be

> appreciated.

> >

> > Thank you,

> > Aliza

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have very high arsenic levels as well and have yet to find the

source. The exposure may have been years ago and I will never figure

where it came from. We examined our well water with a DDI drinking

water test, but it was negative. Chicken is another big source, but

we have been eating organic chicken for years. Gardening/playing in

the dirt if previosly pesticided is another possible exposure. I

just went down the list of possibles in Andy's book and tried to

rule them out. After an exhaustive search we could not come up with

anything in my current environment, but that does not mean you

won't. It is just very frustrating.

Gladioli

> > Don't forget about your child's mattress, it is full

of chemicals.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [ ] Arsenic question re hair analysis

> >

> > Our psychiatrist just called us (he ordered the hair analysis

for us), and I suppose since

> it's after 9:00 PM our time, he felt it was important that I hear

some information that the

> test revealed before he actually gave me the report.

> > He said my daughter tested in the 95th percentile for arsenic,

also very high for uranium

> (and I think cadmium). I have read that the presence of uranium

intensifies the toxicity of

> arsenic. Also, levels of calcium, copper, magnesium and manganese

are very low. So is

> cobalt, but I have never heard of what cobalt does or on what it

has an effect.

> >

> > I am extremely alarmed that the level of arsenic would be that

high. I have a phone

> intake tomorrow to get my daughter into Thoughtful House in

Austin, but I am concerned

> about having to wait for an actual physical appointment. Houston

doesn't seem to have

> any physicians that are qualified to help us. Any comments would

be appreciated.

> >

> > Thank you,

> > Aliza

> >

> >