RE: Addictive Type Behaviors-PDD Child

January 2, 2007

-My son was pdd and is 4 years old. He has what you describe and are

called " fixations " . He also was temperamental and difficult to say

the least. And with motor delays and sensory problems. I would

suggest getting him a hair test from DDI if you haven't already and

posting the results here. Then call your school district for an

eval, if you haven't already. Ot therapy or speech or whatever can

be helpful.

Is he on any supplements? Vitamin, minerals EFA's, probiotics all

can help. I asume he was vaccinated? Was his sketcy eye contact

around a time when he recently recieved a vaccine? I ask this

because my son had poor eye contact but it came on with 18 months

vaccination and again at 2 years with the vaxes. We have seen this

go away with his chelation and we no longer vaccinate. Some of his

obsessive things have gone too. That is what the doctor

thought..that maybe he was OCD but he didn't completely fit the

profile for it. Metals do strange things to children, and the fact

that he is PDD with autistic behaviors suggests a hair test to see

what if any metals might be there. I know I was surprised at what I

found with my son. It was so opposite to what I thought I would

find, and once I got the results...it was VERY obvious that my sons'

problems were due to poisoning.

-- In , " lrfschr " <elfischer@...>

wrote:

>

> I need some advice with regard to my 4 year old son and his

> behavioral issues. He is PDD-NOS primarily because of his language

> delay, but he has/had some mild autistic features (tantrums, had

> history of sketchy eye contact for a few months which resolved on

> its own). In any event, I am becoming concerned that he has some

> kind of co-morbid psychiatric condition along with his PDD or

maybe

> its just a part of it or something different all together, but I

am

> looking for someone who might have a similar experience. Here

goes.

> He is socially and emotionally quite connected and always has

been.

> His profile is this: language delayed, but developing normally

(but

> slow). He tantrums quite severely when he doesn't get what he

> wants. He acts like an addict in my opinion. He becomes completely

> obsessed with a particular toy or object. Right now it is cell

> phones, cameras. He constantly asks to see everyone's phone,

> therapists, teachers, strangers, etc. He asks to go to stores to

> look at them. He derives great pleasure in this. He uses it as a

> social tool, talking about it with everyone. He acts like a junkie

> if he doesn't get a fix. In the past it has been various things,

> cars, airplanes, crayons, sometimes certain family members or

> therapists are the flavor of the week. He also seeks novelty. Our

> cell phones are of no interest to him, but if a stranger rang our

> door bell, he would frisk them down and demand to see their cell

> phone. He is most interested in gaining what is forbidden to him.

> It has become quite debilitating, we are unable to take him out in

> public as he is so consumed by this latest addiction, obsession,

> interest whatever the technical term may be. Oddly, he has no

other

> characterstics of OCD. He is messy, doesn't care about order, etc.

> So maybe this is just a restricted interest? Whatever it may be it

> needs help and nothing seems to work. Every time we try

eliminating

> the current addiction he just replaces it with the next thing. It

> just keeps getting stronger.

>

> At this point I would try anything, including medication if

> necessary, I would love to hear if anyone has had success with

> anything like this.

>

January 2, 2007

Our son became less OCD when we added CLO, and phosphadytlcholine.

January 2, 2007

Hello ,

WOW ! I had forgotten what this was like, but our son did EVERYTHING you

describe.

Man, that stuff used to drive us nuts !

Most of this went away when we put him on a strict GFCF diet and gave him a

TON of EFA's.

I looked up co-morbid psychiatric condition and interestingly I found this :

-------------------- Snip -----------------------------

Although the etiological role of psychiatric disorders in the genesis of

opioid dependence is still unclear, there is reasonable evidence that many

patients initially turn to substance use in an effort to self-medicate an

untreated psychiatric condition.4 For these reasons, physicians should be

alert to the possibility of untreated psychiatric conditions.5

At the same time, not all patients who exhibit symptoms actually have an

underlying psychiatric disorder-substance abuse can mimic, exacerbate, or

precipitate psychiatric symptoms and disorders.1 Assessment is fundamental

to determining whether symptoms reflect a primary psychiatric disorder or

substance-induced condition.

--------------------- Snip ---------------------------

Talk about being an addict, wait till you see what the withdrawal symptoms

are like when you go GFCF.

I don't know if you are aware, but leaky gut allows substances into the

blood that are chemically similar to opioids ... hmmmmmm

We also added in Multi Vitamin supps and some other misc. items.

The other key thing for him has been Chelation (AC Protocol).

Thanks for the reminder, it is nice to think back and remember how far he

has come.

Good Luck !

Neil

_____

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On Behalf Of lrfschr

Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:35 PM

Subject: [ ] Addictive Type Behaviors-PDD Child

I need some advice with regard to my 4 year old son and his

behavioral issues. He is PDD-NOS primarily because of his language

delay, but he has/had some mild autistic features (tantrums, had

history of sketchy eye contact for a few months which resolved on

its own). In any event, I am becoming concerned that he has some

kind of co-morbid psychiatric condition along with his PDD or maybe

its just a part of it or something different all together, but I am

looking for someone who might have a similar experience. Here goes.

He is socially and emotionally quite connected and always has been.

His profile is this: language delayed, but developing normally (but

slow). He tantrums quite severely when he doesn't get what he

wants. He acts like an addict in my opinion. He becomes completely

obsessed with a particular toy or object. Right now it is cell

phones, cameras. He constantly asks to see everyone's phone,

therapists, teachers, strangers, etc. He asks to go to stores to

look at them. He derives great pleasure in this. He uses it as a

social tool, talking about it with everyone. He acts like a junkie

if he doesn't get a fix. In the past it has been various things,

cars, airplanes, crayons, sometimes certain family members or

therapists are the flavor of the week. He also seeks novelty. Our

cell phones are of no interest to him, but if a stranger rang our

door bell, he would frisk them down and demand to see their cell

phone. He is most interested in gaining what is forbidden to him.

It has become quite debilitating, we are unable to take him out in

public as he is so consumed by this latest addiction, obsession,

interest whatever the technical term may be. Oddly, he has no other

characterstics of OCD. He is messy, doesn't care about order, etc.

So maybe this is just a restricted interest? Whatever it may be it

needs help and nothing seems to work. Every time we try eliminating

the current addiction he just replaces it with the next thing. It

just keeps getting stronger.

At this point I would try anything, including medication if

necessary, I would love to hear if anyone has had success with

anything like this.

January 2, 2007

Yes, his period of bad eye contact was around 18 months after repeat

illnesses (ears/tonsils) and it resolved over a period of 6-months. We

started some DAN interventions around age 2.5. He seems to have

honeymoon periods at first, (like to CLO, B6/mag, MB12) but then becomes

manic and I discontinue in a panic. He has been in behavioral therapy

and has shown great progress in all areas but his restricted interests,

this aspect is only growing stronger. I think the " fixations " is

probably the perfect term to describe his profile. I have done blood

tests for metals and a urine test which revealed no toxicity, which I

now understand is irrelevant to whether his has metal issues. Thanks

for the response.

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