Re: Anyone chelating w/out daily BM's?

[Guest guest]

I found that my son went potty with chelation. He really unload on the

first two days of a round. Otherwise if it worries you, give

children's senna once a day before bed. You can also give more

magnesium and make sure to be actively treating yeast on her rounds. I

think metals was the reason my son could not go potty in the first

place. She is dairy free right?

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> Listmates,

> I want to chelate my daughter, but she does not have daily BM's. She

> is pretty much only going every 5-7 days and we've tried

> EVERYTHING!!! Is anyone chelating their child without having daily

> BM's and if so any big wow's or regression? Also, can this be

> dangerous and so much chelator is doing in and hardly any coming

out?

> Could it become toxic?

>

> Many Thanks, Pat

>

[Guest guest]

-Oh also, Andy had said previously that this was not an issue.

Being constipated will not repoison her in the way most think.

It was on his radio interview with Autism One from last january. You

may wish to look it up and listen to it. It's about an hour long but

worth the information.

-- In , " curealexis001 "

<curealexis001@...> wrote:

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> Listmates,

> I want to chelate my daughter, but she does not have daily BM's. She

> is pretty much only going every 5-7 days and we've tried

> EVERYTHING!!! Is anyone chelating their child without having daily

> BM's and if so any big wow's or regression? Also, can this be

> dangerous and so much chelator is doing in and hardly any coming

out?

> Could it become toxic?

>

> Many Thanks, Pat

>

[Guest guest]

My opinion- very dangerous. Have you tried doing a flush with

magnesium oxide and/or high dose Vit. C? She needs to have at the

very least 1 bm per day. Let us know if you need more ideas or

specifics.

>

> Listmates,

> I want to chelate my daughter, but she does not have daily BM's. She

> is pretty much only going every 5-7 days and we've tried

> EVERYTHING!!! Is anyone chelating their child without having daily

> BM's and if so any big wow's or regression? Also, can this be

> dangerous and so much chelator is doing in and hardly any coming

out?

> Could it become toxic?

>

> Many Thanks, Pat

>

[Guest guest]

Look in the archives, Andy just answered this, is not dangerous to chelate with

constipation. Certainly preferable for the child to have a bm everyday, but will

not cause regression.

Pat, have you tried Oxypowder?

[ ] Re: Anyone chelating w/out daily BM's?

My opinion- very dangerous. Have you tried doing a flush with

magnesium oxide and/or high dose Vit. C? She needs to have at the

very least 1 bm per day. Let us know if you need more ideas or

specifics.

>

> Listmates,

> I want to chelate my daughter, but she does not have daily BM's. She

> is pretty much only going every 5-7 days and we've tried

> EVERYTHING!!! Is anyone chelating their child without having daily

> BM's and if so any big wow's or regression? Also, can this be

> dangerous and so much chelator is doing in and hardly any coming

out?

> Could it become toxic?

>

> Many Thanks, Pat

>

[Guest guest]

I completely agree with . Trying to detox someone who is unable

to excrete toxins efficiently, I don't see how it can be anything but

dangerous. I've heard reports over and over again from parents where

their child is so constipated and regressing until they finally have

a BM. It is not just redistribution, it's the stool creating more

toxins as it decays inside. I know when I don't go daily, I am more

irritable. I can't imagine trying to chelate on top of that.

I also agree with that Oxypowder works wonders. My son was

super constipated and it worked a little TOO well the first time.

After that, it just helped to keep him regular. It's great stuff.

Other things that help us are extra mag, aloe vera juice (awesome!),

vitamin C, flax seeds, EFA's, Liver Life, fresh lemon juice (or fresh

squeezed lemonade, apple juice, taurine, and coffee (if nothing else

works this makes him go within an hour). Oh and antifungals cause

many times he's constipated from yeast. Hope this helps.

My best,

TamiW

Gavin's mom

BioRay, Inc

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> > Listmates,

> > I want to chelate my daughter, but she does not have daily BM's.

She

> > is pretty much only going every 5-7 days and we've tried

> > EVERYTHING!!! Is anyone chelating their child without having

daily

> > BM's and if so any big wow's or regression? Also, can this be

> > dangerous and so much chelator is doing in and hardly any coming

> out?

> > Could it become toxic?

> >

> > Many Thanks, Pat

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I also agree that chelating without daily BM's is dangerous. It

probably depends somewhat on the chelating, but that still doesn't

mean it's safe. I'm using TD DMPS and DMPS releases metals mostly

through stool rather than urine accordingly to my doctor. We've

also seen that from test results. However, for some time I wasn't

drinking enough water while chelating. Therefore I wasn't urinating

as much as I should have been while chelating. Once I switched

doctors, the new doctor explained this to me and drinking more water

so I was urinating more often made the world's difference. So I

feel that both urinating and regular bm's are very important while

chelating.

Carolyn

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> >

> > >

> > > Listmates,

> > > I want to chelate my daughter, but she does not have daily

BM's.

> She

> > > is pretty much only going every 5-7 days and we've tried

> > > EVERYTHING!!! Is anyone chelating their child without having

> daily

> > > BM's and if so any big wow's or regression? Also, can this be

> > > dangerous and so much chelator is doing in and hardly any

coming

> > out?

> > > Could it become toxic?

> > >

> > > Many Thanks, Pat

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Tami Wilken

I've heard reports over and over again from parents where

their child is so constipated and regressing until they finally have

a BM.

<<<When an inappropriate chelator or schedule is used, this may be the

explanation people use to rationalize the regression. I have seen that many,

many times.

It is not just redistribution, it's the stool creating more

toxins as it decays inside. I know when I don't go daily, I am more

irritable. I can't imagine trying to chelate on top of that.

I also agree with that Oxypowder works wonders. My son was

super constipated and it worked a little TOO well the first time.

After that, it just helped to keep him regular. It's great stuff.

Other things that help us are extra mag, aloe vera juice (awesome!),

vitamin C, flax seeds, EFA's, Liver Life, fresh lemon juice (or fresh

squeezed lemonade, apple juice, taurine, and coffee (if nothing else

works this makes him go within an hour). Oh and antifungals cause

many times he's constipated from yeast. Hope this helps.

My best,

TamiW

Gavin's mom

BioRay, Inc

> >

> > Listmates,

> > I want to chelate my daughter, but she does not have daily BM's.

She

> > is pretty much only going every 5-7 days and we've tried

> > EVERYTHING!!! Is anyone chelating their child without having

daily

> > BM's and if so any big wow's or regression? Also, can this be

> > dangerous and so much chelator is doing in and hardly any coming

> out?

> > Could it become toxic?

> >

> > Many Thanks, Pat

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

" When an inappropriate chelator or schedule is used, this may be the

explanation people use to rationalize the regression. I have seen

that many, many times. "

I was actually referring to constipation in general. Not necessarily

related to chelation. Constipation has caused regressions in kids

who aren't even chelating. And I can't imagine sticking a chelator

on top of that constipation which is already so aggravating. Don't

get me wrong, I agree that A.C's protocol for prescription chelators

is a real good one. And I agree that there will be less aggravations

when the chleation protocol is appropriate. But that doesn't mean I

agree with everything Andy says. I wasn't able to find his specific

post in regards to chelation and constipation, even after looking in

the archives so maybe I'm misunderstanding what was said. I really

hope so.

Tami

Gavin's mom

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> > > Listmates,

> > > I want to chelate my daughter, but she does not have daily

BM's.

> She

> > > is pretty much only going every 5-7 days and we've tried

> > > EVERYTHING!!! Is anyone chelating their child without having

> daily

> > > BM's and if so any big wow's or regression? Also, can this be

> > > dangerous and so much chelator is doing in and hardly any

coming

> > out?

> > > Could it become toxic?

> > >

> > > Many Thanks, Pat

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

> Listmates,

> I want to chelate my daughter, but she does not have daily BM's. She

> is pretty much only going every 5-7 days and we've tried

> EVERYTHING!!!

Maybe there is an idea here you have not tried?

http://www.danasview.net/constip.htm

How much magnesium do you give? What is her yeast protocol like?

Those two were the most common causes of constipation for my kids,

especially because certain supplements caused magnesium deficiency

and/or yeast overgrowth.

>>Is anyone chelating their child without having daily

> BM's and if so any big wow's or regression? Also, can this be

> dangerous and so much chelator is doing in and hardly any coming out?

I think a lot of it depends on which chelator you use, and how it

excretes the metals. If you use a chelator that excretes primarily

thru the bm, then it will probably be a problem. If your chelator

excretes primarily thru the urine, not so much of a problem.

But finding and correcting the cause of the constipation is very

important.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I have stopped chelating my 5 year daughter for now. She was so

constipated that she had a hard bm with blood even with mineral

oil. She has finally started going daily again, but cannot control

the mineral oil coming out. She regressed a bit, but I think it was

because she could not focus on anything with all the pain. Now I am

trying to retrain her to not fear having a bm. I am going to buy

Oxypowder and try again in a few weeks. She was on Miralax for

years because of withholding so I do not want to go that direction

again. Her rectum is so enlarged that it is dangerous for her. I

consider chelation a long term endevor so there will be issues like

this.

Jen

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> > > > Listmates,

> > > > I want to chelate my daughter, but she does not have daily

> BM's.

> > She

> > > > is pretty much only going every 5-7 days and we've tried

> > > > EVERYTHING!!! Is anyone chelating their child without

having

> > daily

> > > > BM's and if so any big wow's or regression? Also, can this

be

> > > > dangerous and so much chelator is doing in and hardly any

> coming

> > > out?

> > > > Could it become toxic?

> > > >

> > > > Many Thanks, Pat

> > > >

> > >

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