RE: Blood test for mercury??

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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:44 PM

Subject: [ ] Blood test for mercury??

Hi again...

I'm a bit puzzled as my sons nutrition doc (not DAN, none here) has

sent him for a blood test to find out if he has any mercury in his

system. We've already done a few months of ala/dmsa with some

improvements but scary yeast battles but he says this is for a

different type of mercury. I thought blood would only show a recent

heavy exposure? We're presuming most of his has come from my teeth as

he hasn't been exposed to anything else we know of, no vaccines etc. If

the test comes back positive he wants to use cilantro and chlorella

next. Any thoughts on this?? Sx

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>

> Hi again...

> I'm a bit puzzled as my sons nutrition doc (not DAN, none here) has

> sent him for a blood test to find out if he has any mercury in his

> system.

We've already done a few months of ala/dmsa with some

> improvements

If you are seeing improvements with ala/dmsa you already know he has a

toxicity problem without any further testing.

What protocol are you using for chelation? What doses and timing?

but scary yeast battles but he says this is for a

> different type of mercury. I thought blood would only show a recent

> heavy exposure? We're presuming most of his has come from my teeth as

> he hasn't been exposed to anything else we know of, no vaccines etc.

>If

> the test comes back positive he wants to use cilantro and chlorella

> next.

The test probably won't come back positive.

The fact that he thinks about using cilantro and chlorella shows that

this guy doesn't understand chelation. These will make your son worse.

Check the FAQ and use onibasu.com to search the archives.

J

Any thoughts on this?? Sx

>

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Thanks for your replies. It's very disappointing- this guy is the

closest we have found to a DAN doc in the country and I was hoping he'd

help me figure it all out as my toxic brain really struggles even to

remember to give D his supplements most days ( We'd have to go abroad

to see a DAN doc and then how do I know he/she'll be good?

He's a really nice and experienced doc who really listens and seems to

care so I'm torn between taking all this stuff to discuss with him or

just cutting and running now. Maybe if I get myself straight I'll be

able to focus on the job in hand and make progress. I know he could be

doing better. Thanks for listening. Sx

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Thanks for your replies. It's very disappointing- this guy is the

closest we have found to a DAN doc in the country and I was hoping he'd

help me figure it all out as my toxic brain really struggles even to

remember to give D his supplements most days ( We'd have to go abroad

to see a DAN doc and then how do I know he/she'll be good?

He's a really nice and experienced doc who really listens and seems to

care so I'm torn between taking all this stuff to discuss with him or

just cutting and running now. Maybe if I get myself straight I'll be

able to focus on the job in hand and make progress. I know he could be

doing better. Thanks for listening. Sx

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>

> Hi again...

> I'm a bit puzzled as my sons nutrition doc (not DAN, none here) has

> sent him for a blood test to find out if he has any mercury in his

> system. We've already done a few months of ala/dmsa with some

> improvements but scary yeast battles but he says this is for a

> different type of mercury. I thought blood would only show a recent

> heavy exposure? We're presuming most of his has come from my teeth as

> he hasn't been exposed to anything else we know of, no vaccines etc.

If

> the test comes back positive he wants to use cilantro and chlorella

> next. Any thoughts on this?? Sx

>

Dear Shaddie:

I have heard of Chlorella and Cilantro, its from Dr. Klinghardt.

Anyhow, he says use chlorella for a while like a month or more before

using Cilantro. But that is all I know. Anyhow, my son's Dan Doctor

and other Dan doctor's can treat your child totally over the phone.

They use particular labs and can send you the kits that you can take to

any lab to get the blood drawn or you can get the specimen yourself --

sometimes it is urine or feces -- and then mail it off. I know all

this is very difficult to decide but just keep researching keywords on

the web and reading forums and you will be able to learn of what

decisions to make. And keep asking questions on these forums. I do

have a question for you. You say your child never received vaccines.

When did your son first have symptoms?

Heidi

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Blood tests not reliable indicator of mercury body burden or mercury toxicity.

Better tests are available.

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Bernie, DAMS

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>>Thanks for your replies. It's very disappointing- this guy is the

closest we have found to a DAN doc in the country and I was hoping he'd

help me figure it all out as my toxic brain really struggles even to

remember to give D his supplements most days ( We'd have to go abroad

to see a DAN doc and then how do I know he/she'll be good?

My personal opinion:

If you can't find a doctor who can do you any good, then you go it " alone " ,

doing the research and relying on lists like this one. If the doctors you

go to are doing more harm than good, why spend the time, money and energy on

them instead of on something you know works? The money (and time) spent on

going abroad could be better spent on detoxing yourself so you can focus

better and do a better job for your child. I understand why a lot of people

want a doctor to back them up -- and if you can find a good doctor who is

useful to you, great! But it bothers me to see how so many people fear

making their own decisions in spite of clear evidence that what they are

doing is working and what the doctor is offering will be trouble.

As for cilantro, I chelated with cilantro. I didn't know it was a chelator

when I began consuming it regularly. I only knew I felt better when I ate

at a particular restaurant for lunch. Eventually, I had to stop eating

there -- I have had several teeth removed that had large fillings in them

but I have never had the fillings in remaining teeth replaced. At some

point, eating cilantro began to leach metals from the dental work in my

mouth and make me sick. So I know cilantro is a chelator but I have not

seen good info on how to use it safely and effectively. As far as I know,

it is a bit of a gamble to use. I actually have a discussion board which I

own (which I haven't even visited myself in many weeks) and have considered

supporting discussion of cilantro chelation there because of my experiences

with it and because the topic comes up on this forum so regularly. However,

I would not feel comfortable encouraging someone to experiment on their

child. I was taking it myself and trying to figure out WHY it was helping

me when I was coincidentally referred to this list for completely unrelated

reasons -- I mean, it is not like I asked around about the food I was eating

and was told directly " oh, join this list ... "

Anyway, just kind of rambling. In short, I am probably the most positive

voice on this list for cilantro and I would not encourage its use on a child

under the supervision of a doctor who seems to not know what he is doing.

Peace

--

Michele

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Hi,

Heidi- my son has fragile X syndrome as well as all this so I'm kind

of presuming the issues are not linked and aiming to 'treat'

his 'autistic symptoms'. It makes it kind of hard to pinpoint a time

it started though but I'd say soon after he started on solids. He was

breastfed exclusively for 26weeks then gradually introduced solids

and things went downhill from there. He had slept 8 hours a night

until then and suddenly it was all out the window and he was

distraught at night. I can look back and say it was soon after he had

his first dairy (only organic yoghurt and a tiny bit of milk in

cooking, he never had a bottle) With regard to milestones he was late

in a lot of things but these are probably more the fragile x which I

have no delusions of thinking I can 'cure' him of but I will

certainly do all I can to help him.

Someone suggested getting Andys book and not to be afraid of taking

responsibility myself for all this if the doc isn't working out- well

I've been doing it for the last 2 and a half years now since starting

gfcfsf and I have the book but find it really hard to read because my

concentration is so poor. It's much easier to process the small

bursts of information on these sites. I'm doing my best here but

freely admit that I am fumbling along and if I can find a doc that

will help me get my son better faster then yes please!!

Thanks for your replies, Sx

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>

> Hi,

> Heidi- my son has fragile X syndrome as well as all this so I'm

kind

> of presuming the issues are not linked and aiming to 'treat'

> his 'autistic symptoms'. It makes it kind of hard to pinpoint a

time

> it started though but I'd say soon after he started on solids. He

was

> breastfed exclusively for 26weeks then gradually introduced solids

> and things went downhill from there. He had slept 8 hours a night

> until then and suddenly it was all out the window and he was

> distraught at night. I can look back and say it was soon after he

had

> his first dairy (only organic yoghurt and a tiny bit of milk in

> cooking, he never had a bottle) With regard to milestones he was

late

> in a lot of things but these are probably more the fragile x which

I

> have no delusions of thinking I can 'cure' him of but I will

> certainly do all I can to help him.

>

> Someone suggested getting Andys book and not to be afraid of taking

> responsibility myself for all this if the doc isn't working out-

well

> I've been doing it for the last 2 and a half years now since

starting

> gfcfsf and I have the book but find it really hard to read because

my

> concentration is so poor. It's much easier to process the small

> bursts of information on these sites. I'm doing my best here but

> freely admit that I am fumbling along and if I can find a doc that

> will help me get my son better faster then yes please!!

> Thanks for your replies, Sx

>

Dear Shaddie:

Even though your son has a genetic contribution to his symptoms, I

think he can be helped. He may need nutritional supplements or diet

restrictions his entire life, but they may make a big difference in

his symptoms. I did some reading and there is a wide variance of

symptoms pertaining to individuals with fragile X, meaning that other

things than just the genetic component are involved in creating the

symptoms. I recommend trying to get a doctor, like a homeopath,

naturopath, or Dan Doctor who can research fragile X effects to

assist you if you can afford it. Some take payments, and some offer

financial assistance, and many treat your child over the phone. In

the mean time, try nutritional supplements, amino acids, digestive

enzymes, and antioxidants. Of course research them well and ask

forum members what they recommend. You say his symptoms started with

solid food, well that's a good start. Most of our children have

difficulty with dairy and wheat. You can read up on GF/CF diets. If

you believe, you will make the effort, and then you can achieve.

Heidi