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Stasia,

You are probably tired of hearing from me by now! did not start rolling

over until she was about 6 months, but she started walking when she was 8 1/2

months old! She also didn't sit on her own with out support until she was

just over 6 months old. She didn't want to be on her tummy so she didn't roll

from back to front and she made such a HUGE fuss when we put her on her tummy

that we usually just gave in and picked her up! She did start rolling to her

tummy when she realized that that was the only way she could crawl! As my ped

likes to say, (ALL THE TIME) every baby is different! :-)

I will say that there are some mothers in this group who have some real

concerns about their babies not rolling or crawling yet. Hopefully one of

them will answer your post!

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

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My son, is 4 1/2 mo and he is still not rolling over from

his back to belly. The doc said he should be trying by now, but he

really doesn't like to be on his belly at all. I try to get him on

it at least 1/2 hour a day, but he screams and we have to do it in 5-

10 minute intervals. Even if I put him on my chest and talk to him

he still hates it...

Anyway, I didn't know if anyone else had any problems with their

child not rolling over yet. is 30 " long and weighs about

19-20 lbs. He's a big baby, but my first son was the same at this

age and rolled over by 4 months.

Let me know.

Thanks - Stasia

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Hi Stasia,

My daughter, is 7 1/2 months and is not rolling

from her back to her stomach. She is getting much

better about tummy time. But doesn't like it enough

to roll that way. I have seen a lot of improvemnet in

that department over the past week or two. Try not to

worry (I'm one to talk!)

, Charlotte

--- Stasia <SGIB2001@...> wrote:

> My son, is 4 1/2 mo and he is still not

> rolling over from

> his back to belly. The doc said he should be trying

> by now, but he

> really doesn't like to be on his belly at all. I

> try to get him on

> it at least 1/2 hour a day, but he screams and we

> have to do it in 5-

> 10 minute intervals. Even if I put him on my chest

> and talk to him

> he still hates it...

>

> Anyway, I didn't know if anyone else had any

> problems with their

> child not rolling over yet. is 30 " long

> and weighs about

> 19-20 lbs. He's a big baby, but my first son was

> the same at this

> age and rolled over by 4 months.

>

> Let me know.

> Thanks - Stasia

>

>

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Tim,

Thank you for the information. Your posts are always VERY informative,

organized and well-stated. I appreciate your input and I'm glad you hang

around with us!! :-)

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

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My son DJ does not like being on his stomach either, he did not started rolling

from back to tummy until he was 6mo old, he is almost 8mo now and sleeps on his

stomach but during the day he wont stay on it more than a couple of minutes,

hope this helps...

Elena

Plagiocephaly wrote:

>

> Hi Stasia,

>

> My daughter, is 7 1/2 months and is not rolling

> from her back to her stomach.  She is getting much

> better about tummy time.  But doesn't like it enough

> to roll that way.  I have seen a lot of improvemnet in

> that department over the past week or two.  Try not to

> worry (I'm one to talk!)  

>

> , Charlotte

>

>

>

> --- Stasia <SGIB2001@...> wrote:

> > My son, is 4 1/2 mo and he is still not

> > rolling over from

> > his back to belly.  The doc said he should be trying

> > by now, but he

> > really doesn't like to be on his belly at all.  I

> > try to get him on

> > it at least 1/2 hour a day, but he screams and we

> > have to do it in 5-

> > 10 minute intervals.  Even if I put him on my chest

> > and talk to him

> > he still hates it...

> >

> > Anyway, I didn't know if anyone else had any

> > problems with their

> > child not rolling over yet.   is 30 " long

> > and weighs about

> > 19-20 lbs.  He's a big baby, but my first son was

> > the same at this

> > age and rolled over by 4 months.

> >

> > Let me know.

> > Thanks - Stasia

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

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Stasia,

My son, , rolled over back to front a couple of days before his

4-month birthday. He didn't try for very long before he started to do it.

My PT says bigger babies ( is shorter than - I think he

was 27 1/2 " at 4 mos. - but still considered a big baby) have more real

estate to maneuver and it could take them longer. Don't be discouraged. He

will do it soon.

Beside that, hated tummy time as well. However, he finds that tummy

time isn't so bad when you get there yourself. :)

& (9-20-00)

Redmond, WA

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From: Stasia [mailto:SGIB2001@...]

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 11:17 AM

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Subject: Any connection

My son, is 4 1/2 mo and he is still not rolling over from

his back to belly. The doc said he should be trying by now, but he

really doesn't like to be on his belly at all. I try to get him on

it at least 1/2 hour a day, but he screams and we have to do it in 5-

10 minute intervals. Even if I put him on my chest and talk to him

he still hates it...

Anyway, I didn't know if anyone else had any problems with their

child not rolling over yet. is 30 " long and weighs about

19-20 lbs. He's a big baby, but my first son was the same at this

age and rolled over by 4 months.

Let me know.

Thanks - Stasia

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Hi Stasisa,

All of us on this website are now aware that the switch from stomach

to back sleeping has caused an increase is positional plagiocephaly.

This increase has been well documented throughout the country, and in

other countries where similar practices have been encouraged.

However, a second adverse impact of back sleeping is that it has been

shown to also delay the attainment of both gross and fine motor

skills (sitting up, crawling, walking etc).

Drs. Ellen and Moon (out of D.C. I believe) published a

study that documented that back slept babies hit these milestones

later than stomach-slept children. They concluded, however, that by

18 months of age the back sleepers do catch up.

One reason for this is that having a child spend time on their

stomach, WHILE AWAKE & SUPERVISED, is very important for developing

both gross and fine motor skills. When on their stomach the infant

tries to push-up and look around which helps develop their trunk

musculature which is important for stability for actions such as

sitting, walking, crawling etc. The American Academy of Pediatrics

now recognizes this and has changed their slogan from " Back to Sleep "

to " Back to Sleep, Stomach to Play " .

One final item I would like to add, is that both Drs. Moon and

did a follow up study recently which showed that more back-slept

babies died in daycare settings when they were placed on their

stomachs by the daycare providers. These back slept babies did not

yet have the trunk musculature to lift their heads and clear their

airways as they caregivers may have expected.

For reference, these two studies are:

1. Effects of Sleep Position on Infant Motor Development.

Pediatrics Vol 102 (5): 1135-1140, 1998.

2. Sudden Infant Death Syndrome in Child Care Settings.

Pediatrics Vol 106 (2): 295-300, 2000.

If you would like to discuss this more, reply back, or contact me at

littlefi@...; 800-689-3402 ext 232.

Take Care,

Tim Littlefield

Director R & D

Cranial Technologies, Inc.

> My son, is 4 1/2 mo and he is still not rolling over

from

> his back to belly. The doc said he should be trying by now, but he

> really doesn't like to be on his belly at all. I try to get him on

> it at least 1/2 hour a day, but he screams and we have to do it in

5-

> 10 minute intervals. Even if I put him on my chest and talk to him

> he still hates it...

>

> Anyway, I didn't know if anyone else had any problems with their

> child not rolling over yet. is 30 " long and weighs

about

> 19-20 lbs. He's a big baby, but my first son was the same at this

> age and rolled over by 4 months.

>

> Let me know.

> Thanks - Stasia

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Stasia,

I'll add to the comments that I hope are making you feel less worried

about your child. My son, a back sleeper who hated tummy time, rolled

over late, sat up late, walked late, and is now, at 17 months,

tearing around the house on sturdy little legs.

, Conor's mom

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The American Academy of Pediatrics now recognizes this and has changed their slogan from "Back to Sleep" to "Back to Sleep, Stomach to Play".

Tim, have they actually changed their slogan??

Kendra in CanadaFor more plagio info, visitwww.plagiocephaly.org/support...

----- Original Message -----

From: timlittlefield@...

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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:20 AM

Subject: Re: Any connection

Hi Stasisa,All of us on this website are now aware that the switch from stomach to back sleeping has caused an increase is positional plagiocephaly. This increase has been well documented throughout the country, and in other countries where similar practices have been encouraged. However, a second adverse impact of back sleeping is that it has been shown to also delay the attainment of both gross and fine motor skills (sitting up, crawling, walking etc).Drs. Ellen and Moon (out of D.C. I believe) published a study that documented that back slept babies hit these milestones later than stomach-slept children. They concluded, however, that by 18 months of age the back sleepers do catch up.One reason for this is that having a child spend time on their stomach, WHILE AWAKE & SUPERVISED, is very important for developing both gross and fine motor skills. When on their stomach the infant tries to push-up and look around which helps develop their trunk musculature which is important for stability for actions such as sitting, walking, crawling etc. The American Academy of Pediatrics now recognizes this and has changed their slogan from "Back to Sleep" to "Back to Sleep, Stomach to Play".One final item I would like to add, is that both Drs. Moon and did a follow up study recently which showed that more back-slept babies died in daycare settings when they were placed on their stomachs by the daycare providers. These back slept babies did not yet have the trunk musculature to lift their heads and clear their airways as they caregivers may have expected.For reference, these two studies are:1. Effects of Sleep Position on Infant Motor Development. Pediatrics Vol 102 (5): 1135-1140, 1998.2. Sudden Infant Death Syndrome in Child Care Settings. Pediatrics Vol 106 (2): 295-300, 2000.If you would like to discuss this more, reply back, or contact me at littlefi@...; 800-689-3402 ext 232.Take Care,Tim LittlefieldDirector R & DCranial Technologies, Inc.> My son, is 4 1/2 mo and he is still not rolling over from > his back to belly. The doc said he should be trying by now, but he > really doesn't like to be on his belly at all. I try to get him on > it at least 1/2 hour a day, but he screams and we have to do it in 5-> 10 minute intervals. Even if I put him on my chest and talk to him > he still hates it...> > Anyway, I didn't know if anyone else had any problems with their > child not rolling over yet. is 30" long and weighs about > 19-20 lbs. He's a big baby, but my first son was the same at this > age and rolled over by 4 months.> > Let me know.> Thanks - Stasia

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Tim:

I had read that they were recommending tummy time, but I want to see the slogan on the newborn Pampers (etc.) read "BACK TO SLEEP, TUMMY TO PLAY". Now THAT would be impressive!!! :o)

Kendra in CanadaFor more plagio info, visitwww.plagiocephaly.org/support...

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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:07 PM

Subject: Re: Any connection

Kendra,I couldn't find the most recent flier that had the new slogan on it, but it has changed. In March 2000 issue of Pediatrics, the Task for on Sleep position now states:"Prone (stomach) positioning when awake, and observed (tummy time)is recommended for development of upper shoulder girdle strength and avoidance of occipital plagiocephaly" pg 653 Pediatrics March 2000.Tim> > My son, is 4 1/2 mo and he is still not rolling over > from > > his back to belly. The doc said he should be trying by now, but he > > really doesn't like to be on his belly at all. I try to get him on > > it at least 1/2 hour a day, but he screams and we have to do it in > 5-> > 10 minute intervals. Even if I put him on my chest and talk to him > > he still hates it...> > > > Anyway, I didn't know if anyone else had any problems with their > > child not rolling over yet. is 30" long and weighs > about > > 19-20 lbs. He's a big baby, but my first son was the same at this > > age and rolled over by 4 months.> > > > Let me know.> > Thanks - Stasia> > >

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